Did You Ever Have To Make Up Your Mind (In a Poll) - the Lovin' Spoonful's Best Song

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I got this list from the Anthology collection. I know the hits, and some of the other tunes from covers by other bands, but I may have left off a few choice songs, sorry. Some real nice singles, at the very least. They kinda split the diff. between the Association & the Byrds in my mind.

Poll Results

OptionVotes
"Summer in the City" (Boone, Sebastian, Mark Sebastian) – 2:39 9
"You Didn't Have to Be So Nice" (Steve Boone, Sebastian) – 2:31 9
"Do You Believe In Magic" (Sebastian) – 2:04 5
"Darling Be Home Soon" (Boone, Sebastian) – 3:31 4
"Did You Ever Have to Make up Your Mind?" (Sebastian) – 1:58 4
"Jug Band Music" (Sebastian) – 2:51 2
"Younger Girl" (Sebastian) – 2:19 2
"Coconut Grove" (Sebastian, Yanovsky) – 2:42 1
"Full Measure" (Boone, Sebastian) – 2:40 1
"She Is Still a Mystery" (Sebastian) – 3:02 1
"Didn't Want to Have to Do It" (Sebastian) – 2:36 1
"Daydream" (Sebastian) – 2:18 1
"Younger Generation" (Sebastian) – 2:40 1
"Money" (Sebastian) – 1:54 0
"Six O'Clock" (Sebastian) – 2:41 0
"Lonely (Amy's Theme" (Sebastian) – 3:19 0
"Never Going Back" (John Stewart) – 2:44 0
"Good Time Music" (John Sebastian) – 3:06 0
"You're a Big Boy Now" (Boone, Butler, Sebastian) – 2:38 0
"Lovin' You" (Sebastian) – 2:28 0
"Nashville Cats" (Sebastian) – 2:34 0
"Rain on the Roof" (Sebastian) – 2:11 0
"Pow!" (Boone, Joe Butler, Sebastian, Zal Yanovsky) – 2:28 0
"Fishin' Blues" Traditional– 2:00 0
"You Baby" (Mann, Phil Spector, Weil) – 2:55 0
"Mad About You" (Garry Bonner, Alan Gordon) – 3:48 0


velko, Friday, 12 June 2009 07:39 (fourteen years ago) link

I only know the most obvious three, and while "Did You Ever Have to Make Up Your Mind?" and "Do You Believe in Magic" are dope songs, I've never made threads about them: summer in the city

droppin' Hamiltons like MJB's niece (The Reverend), Friday, 12 June 2009 07:45 (fourteen years ago) link

ha, didn't know you fucked with 60s folk-rock.

velko, Friday, 12 June 2009 07:52 (fourteen years ago) link

you don't even know

droppin' Hamiltons like MJB's niece (The Reverend), Friday, 12 June 2009 08:11 (fourteen years ago) link

Darling Be Home Soon and Younger Generation are heartbreakingly beautiful songs, and Do You Believe In Magic brings back some great memories, but the winner can only be Nashville Cats. I mean Summer in the City.

j.o.n.a, Friday, 12 June 2009 09:58 (fourteen years ago) link

"You Didn't Have To Be So Nice". Although a lot of great ones from the first 2 years of their existence.

Geir Hongro, Friday, 12 June 2009 11:28 (fourteen years ago) link

"Summer In The City" is too close to rap for its own good though.

Geir Hongro, Friday, 12 June 2009 11:29 (fourteen years ago) link

Geir, you're excelling yourself today. John Sebastian a huge influence on DJ Kool Herc, Kurtis Blow etc

DJ Angoreinhardt (Billy Dods), Friday, 12 June 2009 11:33 (fourteen years ago) link

If it were on here I might vote for "Butchie's Tune." Looking it up apparently it was the b-side of "Summer in the City" which would be it's only competition. Well, that and "You Didn't Have to Be So Nice."

clotpoll, Friday, 12 June 2009 11:50 (fourteen years ago) link

John Sebastian a huge influence on DJ Kool Herc, Kurtis Blow etc

Obviously not, but "Summer In The City" has built up rhythmically in a way that is more typical of what would become rap.

Geir Hongro, Friday, 12 June 2009 12:03 (fourteen years ago) link

Why obviously? They might have...

Mark G, Friday, 12 June 2009 12:04 (fourteen years ago) link

"You didn't have to be so nice" best intro EVER and what follows is just as good. "Do you Believe in Magic" also unbelievable.

Trip Maker, Friday, 12 June 2009 13:42 (fourteen years ago) link

I have this collection too and love it a lot so I ought to delve into the albums too. My favorite off this is "She Is Still a Mystery", over "Daydream", the big singles, and "You Didn't Have to Be So Nice".

Euler, Friday, 12 June 2009 14:03 (fourteen years ago) link

I have the first two albums.

Fine stuff.

Mark G, Friday, 12 June 2009 14:03 (fourteen years ago) link

"didn't want to have to do it" is the best song that john sebastian ever wrote. though i prefer the rotary connection's version. even if the rotary connection version did help to invent trip-hop.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkycGD0ZE8Y

scott seward, Friday, 12 June 2009 14:06 (fourteen years ago) link

Summer in the City

Le présent se dégrade, d'abord en histoire, puis en (Michael White), Friday, 12 June 2009 14:09 (fourteen years ago) link

rhe ralfi pagan version is way better than the original too. and probably the most beautiful of all versions:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ta3e3stH2ik

scott seward, Friday, 12 June 2009 14:09 (fourteen years ago) link

Coconut Grove!

Marco Damiani, Friday, 12 June 2009 14:13 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah "didn't want to have to do it" is sort of unbeatable. but most of these are really good.

would you ask tom petty that? (tipsy mothra), Friday, 12 June 2009 14:18 (fourteen years ago) link

have you guys ever heard ralfi's version of "make it with you"? unbelievable. i have the 45. how he makes a david gates song into the coolest soul song ever written is pretty impressive. not that david gates didn't have soul, he did...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dj34lQTcfQ

scott seward, Friday, 12 June 2009 14:18 (fourteen years ago) link

i sold a copy of this at my store the other day. i couldn't believe it. (it's not very good)

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_n7Fl9SjlnG4/Raugcoj1JuI/AAAAAAAAAIM/IEFmPaG4ySM/s320/lovin.jpg

scott seward, Friday, 12 June 2009 14:25 (fourteen years ago) link

voted for 'darling be home soon' cos it so gorge, tho it lacks the gigantic belch of the version on SLADE ALIVE

Ward Fowler, Friday, 12 June 2009 14:29 (fourteen years ago) link

Jugband Music!

My dad's favorite song

Kitchen Paper Towel (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 12 June 2009 15:28 (fourteen years ago) link

how is that first John Sebastian solo record?

assrape courtesy of Will High (velko), Friday, 12 June 2009 20:58 (fourteen years ago) link

Ha, I swear I was going to start this poll the other day! I'm going with "You Didn't Have to Be so Nice" bcz SO many hooks, the organ is great, and such sweet singing. So good a song for the person who feels somewhat uncomfortable with affectionate gestures but also loves them (ahem: me).

baleen, the krill queen (Abbott), Friday, 12 June 2009 21:11 (fourteen years ago) link

John Sebastian is one good-looking dude (or was back in the day).

baleen, the krill queen (Abbott), Friday, 12 June 2009 21:13 (fourteen years ago) link

Wz listening to this exact best of the other day & thee Viceroy asked, "Who are all these bands you're listening to?" rad!

baleen, the krill queen (Abbott), Friday, 12 June 2009 21:15 (fourteen years ago) link

"You Didn't Have to Be So Nice," even though Geir voted for it too.

unicorn poop evaluator (WmC), Friday, 12 June 2009 22:56 (fourteen years ago) link

I can't get over Jug Band Music. I know others are objectively better, but I'm a sucker for a quasi-novelty number from a mainly serious artist (see: Jim Croce's "Car Wash Blues"). Plus you can't beat the beach boy / child's toy / hoi polloi rhyme.

staggerlee, Saturday, 13 June 2009 19:01 (fourteen years ago) link

"Summer in the City" and "Daydream" get so much airplay, I can't remember back to when I wasn't sick of them. I voted for "Do You Believe in Magic" (which, just to be contradictory. probably gets almost as much airplay), with "You Didn't Have to Be So Nice" and "Six O'Clock" close. Ages and ages and ages ago, Zal Yanovsky's father used to patronize my dad's milk store.

clemenza, Saturday, 13 June 2009 19:07 (fourteen years ago) link

"Did You Ever Have to Make up Your Mind?" needs more love, A+ goofiness

velko, Saturday, 13 June 2009 19:23 (fourteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Tuesday, 16 June 2009 23:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Had to go with Younger Girl.

Alba, Tuesday, 16 June 2009 23:16 (fourteen years ago) link

Ridiculous to have to pick one, but I heard Michael Shelley play "Darling Be Home Soon" on his show the other day so I'm going with that. Lyrically it's got some kind of perfect mix of heartfelt emotion expressed through mixed registers and tortured syntax. Also, don't forget the great Joe Cocker version.

barney kestrel (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 17 June 2009 00:11 (fourteen years ago) link

So many overlooked gems in their catalogue. I'd have gone for Old Folks or Forever, but neither are in the list.

So...

harveyw, Wednesday, 17 June 2009 11:22 (fourteen years ago) link

I love the way Younger Girl starts out like it's an acoustic version of Do You Believe In Magic, then turns into its pensive cousin.

Alba, Wednesday, 17 June 2009 11:38 (fourteen years ago) link

That's a good description.

barney kestrel (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 17 June 2009 14:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Great band that I've never seen a lot written about here, aside from (I think) Seward raving about the cover of Everything Playing. The bulk of their entire 1965-67 output is aces with me, happy/goofy ones and melancholy/serious ones alike. I'll go with "She Is Still A Mystery" ("The more I see, the more I see there is to see")

I wish he hadn't adapted my critique of his "ilxor" moniker (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 17 June 2009 20:02 (fourteen years ago) link

And babe, don't you know it's a pity the day can't be like the night in the summer, in the city.

Moka, Wednesday, 17 June 2009 20:26 (fourteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Wednesday, 17 June 2009 23:01 (fourteen years ago) link

mind not made up

velko, Thursday, 18 June 2009 03:36 (fourteen years ago) link

you didn't want to have to do it

I wish he hadn't adapted my critique of his "ilxor" moniker (Myonga Vön Bontee), Thursday, 18 June 2009 03:48 (fourteen years ago) link

I would have polled you anyway.

barney kestrel (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 18 June 2009 18:37 (fourteen years ago) link

Summer in the City is right up there with Good Vibrations as best summer song ever.

sandcat dune buggy attack squad!! (leavethecapital), Thursday, 18 June 2009 18:46 (fourteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...

"Younger Girl" is such a beautiful song. I always hate the "you (female) are too young to have...just now" theme, ideologically, but I just can't not dig this dreamy little idyll.

frozen cookie (Abbott), Friday, 21 May 2010 17:40 (thirteen years ago) link

three years pass...

"You're a Big Boy Now" (Boone, Butler, Sebastian) – 2:38 0

watched this movie recently -- is this the track w/ the refrain of "girl, can i look at your insides?" kinda catchy, mostly terrifying

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 4 March 2014 20:17 (ten years ago) link

no, that's "Girl, Beautiful Girl (Barbara's Theme)".

Virginia, Plain and Tall (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 4 March 2014 20:47 (ten years ago) link

where did her nipples go

(xp) the explanation for the cover is the album was supposed to be called "'Til I Run With You" - tho that doesn't explain why the back cover has Joe Butler squatting down chewing on a branch

I was just listening to the Spoonful yesterday and wondering if there had ever been any sort of poll on them

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 15:53 (ten years ago) link

eleven months pass...

that album was the first (and only?) one w/o sebastian, i think

all the albums w/ sebastian are pretty great; they were underrated back then, and are still underrated today

I dunno. (amateurist), Saturday, 7 February 2015 21:01 (nine years ago) link

!

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 07:32 (nine years ago) link

Too true. Just heard Zal Yanovsky's one and only solo album, "Alive and Well in Argentina", sadly not very good tho using recordings of Hitler on the title track was amusing in a Mel Brooks sorta way.

Romeo Daltrey (Tom D.), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 10:15 (nine years ago) link

he was a pretty phenomenal guitarist

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 18:01 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, always loved his playing... btw "Revelation Revolution 69" is a Lovin' Spoonful album in name only, it's really a Joe Butler solo album.

Romeo Daltrey (Tom D.), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 19:32 (nine years ago) link

five years pass...

Zal was such an excellent pop star.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oL7XdoS5Je4

Did somebody just say eat? (Tom D.), Sunday, 5 April 2020 18:08 (four years ago) link

Don't think I heard much of Sebastian's solo work besides this A+ TV theme song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZzEzDkeHzI

that's not my post, Sunday, 5 April 2020 19:50 (four years ago) link

two years pass...

xpost to scott way upthread. been obsessing over the rotary connection cover of "didn't want to have to do it"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwDHitCW8Ic

that's not my post, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 19:38 (one year ago) link

Recommend the California Dreaming episode of Rock Family Trees, plenty of Lovin’ Spoonful in it and John Philips too sadly. There’s not a decent version on YouTube but there’s one here https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2qbnf

Dan Worsley, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 19:57 (one year ago) link

Nice! I will have to check it out

that's not my post, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 22:20 (one year ago) link


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