― Tom, Monday, 30 October 2000 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
It hits home, and expresses pretty much how I also feel when I hear Julie's music.
― Robin Carmody, Monday, 30 October 2000 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― David Paul Nugent, Friday, 26 January 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
Hopefully you will find it, or better, you already got it.
Regards,
Martin Houwer, another Julie London fan from The Hague, The Netherlands.
― Martin Houwer, Friday, 12 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
It is one of the best things I have ever read about Julie London. Then again, it's one of the few things I have ever read about Julie London.
I can't quite work out how much she is a common property that everyone knows, or an obscurity. (But the reissue racks in eg. Dress Circle are full of her work.) And I can't quite work out how familiar Tom E himself is or was with her work. Probably no less familiar than me.
I'm not sure about Tom E's claim that 'old music' is not central to many people's lives. I guess it depends what 'central' and 'many' are taken to mean.
Also, I don't quite see the problem Tom E seeks to establish re. listening to JL at home. Another way of talking about her records would be: they are intimate; they encourage an idea of one-to-one communication, candle-lit or not. They are less garish and boisterous than, for instance, the rap tracks Tom E recently gave me -- in what way are the latter apparently more suitable for home consumption?
I have discovered what I always wanted to know, or think: that her versions of the standards are more reliably agreeable than anyone else's I can think of.
― the pinefox, Thursday, 27 March 2003 13:53 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 27 March 2003 20:50 (twenty-one years ago) link
Julie Is Her Name is great, although I can see that the jazz cognoscenti might not buy it. I especially like "Laura," with its copious amounts of echo.
― Amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 27 March 2003 20:53 (twenty-one years ago) link
1. Tom E's view that the standards are not central to many people's lives nowadays probably contains a lot of truth. But the whole dilettante debate may reframe this: perhaps a dilettante would be one who has the reaction to standards that Tom says is typical?
2. Tom E treats Julie London as 'old music' - and again, I know what he means. But I realized today that part of her identity is really is that she's NOT such old music - she sings the standards at a *different* moment from Crosby or Fitzgerald. She represents cool late 50s or even swinging 60s, as much as she does the Broadway of Cole Porter. (And as I've said, I prefer her more 'modern' arrangements of many of the songs.)
3. re. Tom E's views on Julie L as 'performance' of standards, and hence not very intimate: perhaps he has more of a point than I gave him credit for. Perhaps what he is getting at is the 'impersonality' of the standards - the way they are ready-made texts to be performed, rather than unique expressions of singers' souls. (I suppose I was trying to get at something similar in my Rosemary Squires article.)
― the pinefox, Friday, 28 March 2003 12:25 (twenty-one years ago) link
― H (Heruy), Friday, 28 March 2003 13:05 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tom (Groke), Friday, 28 March 2003 13:37 (twenty-one years ago) link
i have no article response, but i have been digging through my oldest records and have been listening to julie london, esp this
http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/7a153a6aebe269c8b422eff36678e1ed/128729.jpg
love her
― The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Monday, 30 August 2010 00:23 (thirteen years ago) link
my image disappeared and it deserves to be seen
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/JulieLondon_LonelyGirl.jpg/200px-JulieLondon_LonelyGirl.jpg
― The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Monday, 30 August 2010 00:25 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ns8aibNOjhA
Oh yes.
― errant flynn, Thursday, 4 August 2011 10:47 (twelve years ago) link
so good, her cole porter album is amazing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0NXNJbH5yo
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Monday, 29 April 2013 21:54 (eleven years ago) link
Don't see any mention here of her husband, Bobby Troup, composer of "Route 66," and the fact that they both appeared on the 70s television show "Emergency!"
― Blue Yodel No. 9 Dream (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 00:21 (eleven years ago) link
OMG at this episode of Tattletaleshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NVf-9cgrAE
― Blue Yodel No. 9 Dream (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 00:31 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sACIovFKkg
― Blue Yodel No. 9 Dream (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 00:33 (eleven years ago) link
on What's My Line?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uix0Z1zZG00
― Blue Yodel No. 9 Dream (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 00:35 (eleven years ago) link
Anyone know if the article linked in the original post is still online anywhere?
― everything, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 08:28 (eleven years ago) link
http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2000/10/julie/
― Pasty, British & Shit (wins), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 09:20 (eleven years ago) link
Wonderful. Thanks.
― everything, Saturday, 25 May 2013 18:16 (eleven years ago) link
Hello, Olde ILX! I come to tell you that I have just heard some cuts off of the Julie London album Yummy, Yummy, Yummy and it is good. It reminds me of certain Serge Gainsbourg records, kind of melancholy and energetic at the same time, the same kind of slow churning rhythm section with a busy pick-y bass line.
― Tapioca Tumbril (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 25 January 2022 21:53 (two years ago) link
I own this album and have tried to like it, but the backing music sounds like it was recorded separately in a different studio in a different city and then the resulting tape was slowed down. Meanwhile she sounds like she took a Seconal and had a couple of whiskey sours before recording the vocal tracks.
― Josefa, Tuesday, 25 January 2022 22:38 (two years ago) link
You say the second sentence like it's a bad thing...
Honestly, I own a number of her records and don't play that one often. I'll give it a try again tonight.
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 25 January 2022 22:58 (two years ago) link
Worth noting Julie's famed star turn (with one song) is about to get a glossed up rerelease
https://www.criterion.com/films/29605-the-girl-can-t-help-it
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 25 January 2022 23:16 (two years ago) link
I hope this means a big screen release too, that's how I've long wanted to see it. (It played at Anthology Film Archives here about three years ago & I regret not catching it).
― Josefa, Tuesday, 25 January 2022 23:24 (two years ago) link
I need to see that one again.
― Tapioca Tumbril (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 26 January 2022 01:03 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXg6UB9Qk0o
― Tapioca Tumbril (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 26 January 2022 02:20 (two years ago) link
This bass player is a monster! FB double bass forum says his name is Don Bagley.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfANFQOLGKA
― Tapioca Tumbril (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 26 January 2022 02:24 (two years ago) link
Was figuring the guitar player on the one with guitar was Barney Kessel but it seems like maybe It is another guy I never heard of, Dennis Budimir.
― Tapioca Tumbril (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 26 January 2022 02:33 (two years ago) link
The original version of "Cry Me a River" of course WAS Barney Kessel, along with Ray Leatherwood on bass.
― Tapioca Tumbril (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 26 January 2022 02:37 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mv4OQ4jkRzwWith transcription!
― Tapioca Tumbril (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 26 January 2022 02:38 (two years ago) link
haven’t listened much to Julie London, but Budimer is a fine guitarist. Guess it’s time to give some Julie a spin
― sknybrg, Wednesday, 26 January 2022 03:00 (two years ago) link
Julie always seems to have a great band so you won’t be disappointed on that front. I just read some anecdote, not sure how true it is yet, which illustrated that one reason she divorced Jack Webb was that his musical taste wasn’t hip enough. Hearing my internalized Lee Konitz use the word “corny,” although I am not sure he ever weighed in on this situation.
― Tapioca Tumbril (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 26 January 2022 03:42 (two years ago) link
C'mon, he was on the scene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PyHIqOPlnA
Uh.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 26 January 2022 04:06 (two years ago) link
http://www.organissimo.org/forum/index.php?/topic/6643-julie-london/
― Tapioca Tumbril (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 26 January 2022 04:12 (two years ago) link
That Jack Webb recording makes Eugene Levy's Perry Como imitation Mr. Excitement by comparison.
― Tapioca Tumbril (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 26 January 2022 04:30 (two years ago) link
But it’s funny you bring that up bc that’s what the ‘Yummy, Yummy, Yummy’ album kind of reminds me of. It’s approaching that area. Doesn’t Levy as Como do “I Love the Nightlife (Disco Round)”? Very similar feel.
― Josefa, Wednesday, 26 January 2022 04:41 (two years ago) link
Yes, he does do that. I disagree that this here is a snooze fest. I am totally loving the chill core vibe. I’m a bit surprised I never saw it on the shelf at Other Music back in the day.
― Tapioca Tumbril (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 28 January 2022 21:34 (two years ago) link
Her version of “Louie Louie” is the missing link between The Kingsmen and “Je t’aime… moi non plus.”
― Tapioca Tumbril (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 28 January 2022 21:45 (two years ago) link
Not one but two Margo Guryan songs.
― Tapioca Tumbril (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 28 January 2022 22:03 (two years ago) link
Lyle Ritz killing it on bass.
― Tapioca Tumbril (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 28 January 2022 22:06 (two years ago) link
Blimey, ILX is (at least) 21 years old!
― Mark G, Friday, 28 January 2022 22:36 (two years ago) link
You think 21 is gonna be a good year?
― Tapioca Tumbril (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 28 January 2022 22:58 (two years ago) link
We turn 22 in August.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 29 January 2022 00:59 (two years ago) link
Will we say “Oh my and a boo-hoo”?
― Tapioca Tumbril (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 29 January 2022 01:03 (two years ago) link
She even turns “Hushabye Mountain” sound into a torch song.
― Tapioca Tumbril (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 30 January 2022 02:29 (two years ago) link
https://jazzprofiles.blogspot.com/2016/07/julie-london-and-cry-me-river-essay-by.html
― Tapioca Tumbril (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 30 January 2022 03:06 (two years ago) link
“Cry Me a River” was the first track on the first Julie London album and the first track on the first Barbra Streisand album
― Josefa, Sunday, 30 January 2022 06:07 (two years ago) link
Interesting. I recently learned the first thing, didn’t know the second. Also just learned that the guy who wrote the song was an unknown until she asked him to write a few songs for a Jack Webb picture. He was a friend of hers from high school, her prom date. Some of this is in that link.
― Tapioca Tumbril (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 30 January 2022 12:33 (two years ago) link
Isn't there some ilm thread about songs that were last minute additions to an album that then became the big hit from it? "Cry Me a River" fits, according to that essay.
― Josefa, Sunday, 30 January 2022 17:24 (two years ago) link
Maybe. Probably.
― Tapioca Tumbril (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 30 January 2022 22:37 (two years ago) link
Author of that article/letter says in his book
Nothing Julie London did during this period of her career, including Yummy, Yummy, Yummy, was ever as cringe inducing as Frank Sinatra’s embarrassing attempt to turn Paul Simon’s “Mrs. Robinson” into a swinger.
― Tapioca Tumbril (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 30 January 2022 22:59 (two years ago) link
A link to our friends over athttps://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/julie-london-album-by-album-1967-1969-nice-girls-dont-stay-for-breakfast-to-yummy-yummy-yummy.455250/
― Tapioca Tumbril (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 30 January 2022 23:04 (two years ago) link
xp No argument here. However, Sinatraphilic writer Will Friedwald has praised the “audacity” and humor of Frank’s vocal on that number.
― Josefa, Sunday, 30 January 2022 23:11 (two years ago) link
I see Julie (not Marlene) on my wall everyday
https://i.imgur.com/aNGJNUJ.jpg
― "Spaghetti" Thompson (Pheeel), Sunday, 30 January 2022 23:58 (two years ago) link
Has anyone heard any of those three 1967-68 albums? I have not.
― Josefa, Monday, 31 January 2022 00:08 (two years ago) link
No but planning to listen at some point.
― Tapioca Tumbril (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 31 January 2022 00:19 (two years ago) link
― Tapioca Tumbril (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 31 January 2022 00:26 (two years ago) link
Listening to the 1959 André Previn-produced Your Number Please now.
― Tapioca Tumbril (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 31 January 2022 01:05 (two years ago) link
xpost Why does that warrant a "shocked" signifier, exactly
― "Spaghetti" Thompson (Pheeel), Monday, 31 January 2022 01:20 (two years ago) link
Doesn’t really. Just couldn’t think of how to respond. Also I wasn’t familiar with the song you were referring to, had to look it up.
― Tapioca Tumbril (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 31 January 2022 01:31 (two years ago) link
Oh okay, thought for a minute I'd made some kind-of strange faux-pas but couldn't figure out what it could possibly be.
― "Spaghetti" Thompson (Pheeel), Monday, 31 January 2022 01:34 (two years ago) link
Sorry for the confusion. I keep forgetting Richard Lester is still alive and post a ! every time Josefa reminds me of that.
― Tapioca Tumbril (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 31 January 2022 01:40 (two years ago) link
Listening to the 1959 André Previn-produced _Your Number Please_ now.
― Tapioca Tumbril (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 31 January 2022 01:51 (two years ago) link
Ah there is no Julie London song called “Nice girls don’t stay for Breakfast to Yummy Yummy Yummy”
Sage advice, though…
― Mark G, Monday, 31 January 2022 11:15 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0N1NDNy61L4
― Tapioca Tumbril (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 31 January 2022 20:27 (two years ago) link