Herbie Hancock's 'Future Shock' 20 years on

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I believe this album has a slighty better reputation now than when it came out. (RS [I think?] - "Of virtually no interest whatever from a musical perspective") Succeeded (commercially therefore culturally) where 'On the Corner' failed, i.e. actual people on actual streets actually bought it and breakdanced to it? Was that the intention do u think? (It would be a good 'intention' as intentions go IMO) OK it was produced with B*ll (FUCKING)L*sw*ll and from an 'unkind' perspective it could seem as boring as his other stuff (although thankfully not as airbrushed and stifling and frankly unlistenable), but I want to hear from the electro ppl on this - is it a milestone or does it make you go "Shhhh"?

dave q, Tuesday, 25 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Also, is 'Sextant' enough to redeem the unfortunate creation of US3?

dave q, Tuesday, 25 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Rockit is awesome. The rest is erm...a bit like Rockit, but not as good. So, yes I think the single was a milestone but not the LP (although I don't feel quite so hostile towards Laswell anyway).

Braces Tower, Tuesday, 25 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

+1 for rockit. Classic

phil, Tuesday, 25 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

eight years pass...

My other half bought this at the weekend expecting jazz and, well, not expecting what she got. Just listening to the whole album through now for the first time ever - I mean, I know Rockit of course but have never heard the whole album - and my first impression is wow, how influential is this??

Daniel Giraffe, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 19:11 (fifteen years ago)

I bought this when it came out and my impression was 'this is good but it is mostly about rockit'.

I went back to it last year, and... yeah the whole album holds up really quite well. And the CD which adds Grandmixer DST's 'Megamix' collage 12" at the end really pushes it over the top.

I bought 'Sound System' when it came out as well, and going back to that one, even though it's overall not as successful, parts of it go even further into sampledelic cut-up weirdness. a few moments definitely foreshadow Public Enemy. At the time I wasn't into it because things like Ryuichi Sakamoto's 'Esperanto' just went so much further out, and much more successfully, but most people were not listening to that record and you know Shocklee was obviously listening to things like 'Metal Beat' along with The Art of Noise and so on

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 20:10 (fifteen years ago)

compare the Yes sample at 0:14

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3sirmADxTA

with the sample in 'Fight The power' at 1:15

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWTrAVLhbS8

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 20:12 (fifteen years ago)

Uhh, listening kind of quietly at work, but it doesn't sound like the same sample to me. The first is very clearly the first note of "Leave It" -- at 1:15 of the PE, I may be hearing the percussion loop at 0:15 of the Hancock, but not the Yes sample.

What am I missing?

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 21:21 (fifteen years ago)

i love 'rough'. because it's not overreliant on samples like the other stuff, it's probably dated the least.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcxGuCHAgvM

jaxon, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 21:29 (fifteen years ago)

er, maybe just the drum pattern is more 'universal'. doesn't scream 1983 electro.

but ya, this album is so underrated / influential

jaxon, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 21:35 (fifteen years ago)

i think the yes sample in the HH is jon anderson's high pitched voice going "I" on the 4and

jaxon, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 21:37 (fifteen years ago)

xpost the PE track samples a different sustained choral half-second clip than Yes, and it's much quieter. it's a similar deployment of a similar sample, not a sample match.

'Rough' does have a great drum pattern.

I also rented this as a kid, the video of the live tour from 'Future Shock', and the extended space music D.St scratching intro was pretty memorable

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TN5ltss0NMA&feature=related

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 21:38 (fifteen years ago)

hey milton, i saw a copy of D. ST. & Jalaludin M. Nuriddin - "Mean Machine" at rasputin union square in the world/european section yesterday if you're interested.

jaxon, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 22:08 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.discogs.com/DSt--Jalaludin-M-Nuriddin-Mean-Machine/master/175958

jaxon, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 22:09 (fifteen years ago)

I remember liking that track. Most of the D.St cuts from around 'Rockit' ended up on this comp:

http://www.discogs.com/Various-Celluloid-The-Electro-Years-Why-Is-It-Fresh/release/58745

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 22:12 (fifteen years ago)

I love all those electro albums he did in the 80s. Not only this but also "Sound-System" and "Perfect Machine".

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 11:18 (fifteen years ago)

three years pass...

this album is great

coops all on coops tbh (crüt), Friday, 4 April 2014 16:27 (twelve years ago)

"Earth Beat"! "Autodrive"!

coops all on coops tbh (crüt), Friday, 4 April 2014 16:28 (twelve years ago)


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