― dave q, Tuesday, 25 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Braces Tower, Tuesday, 25 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― phil, Tuesday, 25 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
My other half bought this at the weekend expecting jazz and, well, not expecting what she got. Just listening to the whole album through now for the first time ever - I mean, I know Rockit of course but have never heard the whole album - and my first impression is wow, how influential is this??
― Daniel Giraffe, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 19:11 (fifteen years ago)
I bought this when it came out and my impression was 'this is good but it is mostly about rockit'.
I went back to it last year, and... yeah the whole album holds up really quite well. And the CD which adds Grandmixer DST's 'Megamix' collage 12" at the end really pushes it over the top.
I bought 'Sound System' when it came out as well, and going back to that one, even though it's overall not as successful, parts of it go even further into sampledelic cut-up weirdness. a few moments definitely foreshadow Public Enemy. At the time I wasn't into it because things like Ryuichi Sakamoto's 'Esperanto' just went so much further out, and much more successfully, but most people were not listening to that record and you know Shocklee was obviously listening to things like 'Metal Beat' along with The Art of Noise and so on
― Milton Parker, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 20:10 (fifteen years ago)
compare the Yes sample at 0:14
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3sirmADxTA
with the sample in 'Fight The power' at 1:15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWTrAVLhbS8
― Milton Parker, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 20:12 (fifteen years ago)
Uhh, listening kind of quietly at work, but it doesn't sound like the same sample to me. The first is very clearly the first note of "Leave It" -- at 1:15 of the PE, I may be hearing the percussion loop at 0:15 of the Hancock, but not the Yes sample.
What am I missing?
― Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 21:21 (fifteen years ago)
i love 'rough'. because it's not overreliant on samples like the other stuff, it's probably dated the least.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcxGuCHAgvM
― jaxon, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 21:29 (fifteen years ago)
er, maybe just the drum pattern is more 'universal'. doesn't scream 1983 electro.
but ya, this album is so underrated / influential
― jaxon, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 21:35 (fifteen years ago)
i think the yes sample in the HH is jon anderson's high pitched voice going "I" on the 4and
― jaxon, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 21:37 (fifteen years ago)
xpost the PE track samples a different sustained choral half-second clip than Yes, and it's much quieter. it's a similar deployment of a similar sample, not a sample match.
'Rough' does have a great drum pattern.
I also rented this as a kid, the video of the live tour from 'Future Shock', and the extended space music D.St scratching intro was pretty memorable
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TN5ltss0NMA&feature=related
― Milton Parker, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 21:38 (fifteen years ago)
hey milton, i saw a copy of D. ST. & Jalaludin M. Nuriddin - "Mean Machine" at rasputin union square in the world/european section yesterday if you're interested.
― jaxon, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 22:08 (fifteen years ago)
http://www.discogs.com/DSt--Jalaludin-M-Nuriddin-Mean-Machine/master/175958
― jaxon, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 22:09 (fifteen years ago)
I remember liking that track. Most of the D.St cuts from around 'Rockit' ended up on this comp:
http://www.discogs.com/Various-Celluloid-The-Electro-Years-Why-Is-It-Fresh/release/58745
― Milton Parker, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 22:12 (fifteen years ago)
I love all those electro albums he did in the 80s. Not only this but also "Sound-System" and "Perfect Machine".
― You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 11:18 (fifteen years ago)
this album is great
― coops all on coops tbh (crüt), Friday, 4 April 2014 16:27 (twelve years ago)
"Earth Beat"! "Autodrive"!
― coops all on coops tbh (crüt), Friday, 4 April 2014 16:28 (twelve years ago)