Is "Gil e Jorge" the most dumbfoundingly beautiful album ever made?

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OptionVotes
Probably 17
Why not? 5


Matos W.K., Wednesday, 8 July 2009 10:26 (fourteen years ago) link

Stoned acoustic jam sesh w/bassist and percussionist. Songs tend to be in the 10-minute range. Gilberto Gil and Jorge Ben egg each other on, play can-you-top-this with choice catalog selections, achieve nirvana.

I vote "probably."

Matos W.K., Wednesday, 8 July 2009 10:27 (fourteen years ago) link

see also: Gilberto Gil/Jorge Ben - "Gil E Jorge"

Matos W.K., Wednesday, 8 July 2009 10:31 (fourteen years ago) link

i have not heard this album but based upon the time i saw gil in concert i voted "why not?"

ruffalo stance (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 10:32 (fourteen years ago) link

and as Matt points out on that thread, it's really more like "drunk acoustic jam sesh," but you know, that's great too. (xpost)

Matos W.K., Wednesday, 8 July 2009 10:32 (fourteen years ago) link

Jordan, you must must must MUST hear this record.

Matos W.K., Wednesday, 8 July 2009 10:32 (fourteen years ago) link

you and every person alive

Matos W.K., Wednesday, 8 July 2009 10:33 (fourteen years ago) link

I'll leave this to y'all, if you care, but do give a listen to this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6C0R0GfvXn8

Matos W.K., Wednesday, 8 July 2009 10:37 (fourteen years ago) link

this album fuckin kills. everyone should listen to it.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 11:24 (fourteen years ago) link

It's really fun to play at a party and watch people turn around and say, "What?"

My name is Kenny! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 11:28 (fourteen years ago) link

this together with João Gilberto's White Album are probably my two favorite summer albums

Plunge Protection Team, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 12:35 (fourteen years ago) link

I hadn't heard this before. Wow.

My Slow Descent into Assholism (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 12:37 (fourteen years ago) link

i've heard most of the better known albums by these two but still not heard this.

The Sorrows of Young Jeezy (jim), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 12:40 (fourteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Sunday, 12 July 2009 23:01 (fourteen years ago) link

This is pretty cool, but I guess I'm a philistine after a track or two at a time I'm like "ok, when is the band gonna show up, guys?"

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Monday, 13 July 2009 00:44 (fourteen years ago) link

philistine BECAUSE after...

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Monday, 13 July 2009 00:45 (fourteen years ago) link

this is an absolute go-to summer record for me

Malcolm Money, Monday, 13 July 2009 00:53 (fourteen years ago) link

meu gloroioso saooo cristavaoooooo
amemmmmmm

Gérard Depardude (m bison), Monday, 13 July 2009 01:00 (fourteen years ago) link

yesssssssss

north sea jazz dit weekend (call all destroyer), Monday, 13 July 2009 01:02 (fourteen years ago) link

another poll could be which dudes songs on this do you prefer, gil or jorge (the latter, pra mim)

Gérard Depardude (m bison), Monday, 13 July 2009 01:02 (fourteen years ago) link

i understand comments abt being impatient with this record but its hypnotic and repetitive qualities are so much of the appeal.

north sea jazz dit weekend (call all destroyer), Monday, 13 July 2009 01:03 (fourteen years ago) link

tbh this record underscores what annoys me about "tropicalia" proper--these guys (veloso too) were so fuckin' good they were basically the last dudes ever who needed adornment.

north sea jazz dit weekend (call all destroyer), Monday, 13 July 2009 01:05 (fourteen years ago) link

anything Jorge Ben does is so dope.

kickstand. kickstand? kickstand! (los blue jeans), Monday, 13 July 2009 01:08 (fourteen years ago) link

srsly. africa brasil is g.o.a.t. stuff to be sure.

north sea jazz dit weekend (call all destroyer), Monday, 13 July 2009 01:10 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm trying to resist the urge to spam this thread with youtube embeds... Ben is really well represented.
Also, Os Originais do Samba is some hot shit.

kickstand. kickstand? kickstand! (los blue jeans), Monday, 13 July 2009 01:13 (fourteen years ago) link

I like this album, but is it just me or does it sound like the guy's singing "Nigga!" a lot in track two? I mean, I know it's really "Nega," but still. Not gonna play this record in front of the missus, no sir.

Mr. Snrub, Monday, 13 July 2009 01:16 (fourteen years ago) link

no dude it's def "nega." i mean knowing that in advance how could anyone be offended. also have u heard gil's album version of "nega"?

north sea jazz dit weekend (call all destroyer), Monday, 13 July 2009 01:18 (fourteen years ago) link

I know he SAYS "Nega" and the song is called "Nega" and everything; it's just weird how much it sounds like "nigga" and how easy it is to mishear it. Especially since the word "nega" is spoken about 10,000 times throughout the song.

Mr. Snrub, Monday, 13 July 2009 01:30 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah i'm sure people will be offended by a black brazilian dude singing in portuguese a word that sounds a little bit like nigga. So offensive.

The Sorrows of Young Jeezy (jim), Monday, 13 July 2009 01:38 (fourteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efr4OOh8y0Q

PappaWheelie V, Monday, 13 July 2009 02:17 (fourteen years ago) link

one of a handful of albums that, whenever I listen to it, I think it's my favorite album ever.

ryan, Monday, 13 July 2009 02:18 (fourteen years ago) link

OMG snrub u tell it like it is

moonship journey to baja, Monday, 13 July 2009 02:38 (fourteen years ago) link

jurujurujurujurujurubeba

The Sorrows of Young Jeezy (jim), Monday, 13 July 2009 02:53 (fourteen years ago) link

i kinda only wanna hear my Brazilian music with female singers, but i will check this out

J0rd D. (velko), Monday, 13 July 2009 03:09 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm trying to resist the urge to spam this thread with youtube embeds

Please spam this thread with YouTube embeds.

Matos W.K., Monday, 13 July 2009 03:35 (fourteen years ago) link

^^^ yes please do that its the only reason i'm here

bentley cadence (gbx), Monday, 13 July 2009 04:06 (fourteen years ago) link

Re: the Nega thing: It really makes you think he's singing Nigga especially because ALL THE OTHER LYRICS ARE IN ENGLISH.

Dan Majerle and the Wailers (Whitey on the Moon), Monday, 13 July 2009 06:06 (fourteen years ago) link

oh ffs

Matos W.K., Monday, 13 July 2009 06:07 (fourteen years ago) link

can we fucking delete the nega/nigga comments which are disrupting a beautiful thread??

north sea jazz dit weekend (call all destroyer), Monday, 13 July 2009 06:09 (fourteen years ago) link

i don't say this lightly but u people are being retarded.

north sea jazz dit weekend (call all destroyer), Monday, 13 July 2009 06:09 (fourteen years ago) link

I didn't mean to drag us back into that when the focus should be on the beautiful music; I'm just listening for the first time and it definitely is something you (I) notice.

Dan Majerle and the Wailers (Whitey on the Moon), Monday, 13 July 2009 06:14 (fourteen years ago) link

aka I don't know why I phrased/capitalized that so argumentatively.

Dan Majerle and the Wailers (Whitey on the Moon), Monday, 13 July 2009 06:15 (fourteen years ago) link

Awesome record.

Sickamous Mouthall (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 13 July 2009 06:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Voted 'probably'. 'Taj Mahal' is probably my favourite ever tune to bellow along to - I'd say this was one of my favourite versions, except that I don't think there are any bad versions.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 13 July 2009 21:32 (fourteen years ago) link

rod stewart "do ya think i'm sexy" melody is a bit of a buzzkill

kamerad, Monday, 13 July 2009 21:41 (fourteen years ago) link

I've always liked the first minute of every song on this album but then I get kind of annoyed

cool app (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 13 July 2009 21:44 (fourteen years ago) link

Just bought this for €10 from ebay on the strength of this thread. I know I'm going to love this.

Duke, Monday, 13 July 2009 21:54 (fourteen years ago) link

voted probably

this album is great

dr. morb's adventures beyond the ultraworld (s1ocki), Monday, 13 July 2009 21:56 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh god, I believe it.

Matos W.K., Tuesday, 14 July 2009 04:07 (fourteen years ago) link

Quit and go back to the soap factory.

Horace Silver Machine (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 14 July 2009 04:07 (fourteen years ago) link

"Jurubeba," 0:01: OMG yes, my favorite by far; pulse jumps.

Matos W.K., Tuesday, 14 July 2009 04:08 (fourteen years ago) link

Let me take this opportunity to note that apart from Copacabana Mon Amour (imagine the album this thread is about with all the self-indulgence but none of the yield) every other Gil album released before this one is totally ridiculous. That period stands up with anybody's, ever.

Matos W.K., Tuesday, 14 July 2009 04:11 (fourteen years ago) link

3:27: WOW OK THAT was a clinker.

Matos W.K., Tuesday, 14 July 2009 04:12 (fourteen years ago) link

4:34: Both men break the syllables down to letters, stutter, prepare.

4:45: Jorge yells. Here we go.

Matos W.K., Tuesday, 14 July 2009 04:13 (fourteen years ago) link

5:24: . . . well, maybe not quite yet. Gotta vamp.

Matos W.K., Tuesday, 14 July 2009 04:13 (fourteen years ago) link

5:52: NOW we have it. "JURUBEBA! JURUBEBA! JURUBEBA! JURUBEBA!"

6:20: "Juru! Juru! Juru! Juru!" faster than anything you've heard in your life.

Matos W.K., Tuesday, 14 July 2009 04:15 (fourteen years ago) link

6:55: God this is just thrilling as fuck.

Matos W.K., Tuesday, 14 July 2009 04:15 (fourteen years ago) link

7:33: I think I just saw a tree fly by my window, figuratively speaking.

Matos W.K., Tuesday, 14 July 2009 04:16 (fourteen years ago) link

8:40: Gil speaks in low rumble, Ben croons in grainy falsetto: they're imitating each other.

Matos W.K., Tuesday, 14 July 2009 04:17 (fourteen years ago) link

9:35: Precise low-tenor/high-baritone duet; please play this for another hour, guys.

Matos W.K., Tuesday, 14 July 2009 04:18 (fourteen years ago) link

10:47: Whew.

Matos W.K., Tuesday, 14 July 2009 04:19 (fourteen years ago) link

"Quem Mandou (Pe Na Esrada)," 0:20: Now that we've had the fuck of our lives we can go get breakfast.

Matos W.K., Tuesday, 14 July 2009 04:19 (fourteen years ago) link

2:48: Gil does sound a little gamy here, I'll admit.

Matos W.K., Tuesday, 14 July 2009 04:25 (fourteen years ago) link

4:06: Elastic, falling-down drunk, sounding like a Warner Bros. cat in flirt mode.

Matos W.K., Tuesday, 14 July 2009 04:26 (fourteen years ago) link

5:40: Both these guys are just so effortlessly dramatic.

Matos W.K., Tuesday, 14 July 2009 04:27 (fourteen years ago) link

6:20: This is what I always hope chanson sounds like.

Matos W.K., Tuesday, 14 July 2009 04:28 (fourteen years ago) link

"Taj Mahal," 0:08: One of those songs that does not build up to its commanding presence: it's there immediately.

Matos W.K., Tuesday, 14 July 2009 04:29 (fourteen years ago) link

0:57: Gil goes high and sets the walking wire.

Matos W.K., Tuesday, 14 July 2009 04:30 (fourteen years ago) link

1:53: Gil tosses off a loop-de-loop every singer alive would kill to perfect.

Matos W.K., Tuesday, 14 July 2009 04:31 (fourteen years ago) link

3:46: Gil flattens his voice the way Frank Viola threw a change.

Matos W.K., Tuesday, 14 July 2009 04:33 (fourteen years ago) link

5:25: I kind of hope these aren't real words he's singing.

Matos W.K., Tuesday, 14 July 2009 04:35 (fourteen years ago) link

6:35: Ben blows through own voice, he's going so hard.

Matos W.K., Tuesday, 14 July 2009 04:36 (fourteen years ago) link

8:27: Jesus, what a couple of lunatics.

Matos W.K., Tuesday, 14 July 2009 04:38 (fourteen years ago) link

9:24: I totally get why Ben didn't want this released. I wouldn't want it released if I'd made it. I wouldn't be able to hear it. "That thing I did that I barely remember . . . ugh." Someone I know whose writing helped transform my thinking has this reaction to his old stuff that he wants to disappear forever. The fact that Ben allowed himself to be talked into it is one of his great artistic decisions.

11:50: Lovely flamenco flourish to finish.

Matos W.K., Tuesday, 14 July 2009 04:45 (fourteen years ago) link

I swear I posted in this thread just a minute ago. What thread did I post to??? Anyway, the clips I'm hearing are pretty good. And what's going on in here?

what u arrestin me for, innit (╓abies), Tuesday, 14 July 2009 04:47 (fourteen years ago) link

"Morre O Burro, Fica O Homem," 1:00: Ben on lead, Gil on backup scat syllables; they must have worked this out in advance.

Matos W.K., Tuesday, 14 July 2009 04:47 (fourteen years ago) link

I had a whim, sorry.

Matos W.K., Tuesday, 14 July 2009 04:47 (fourteen years ago) link

I figure it's OK to hijack my own thread.

Matos W.K., Tuesday, 14 July 2009 04:48 (fourteen years ago) link

3:34: The "da-da-da-da!"s just sparkle.

Matos W.K., Tuesday, 14 July 2009 04:49 (fourteen years ago) link

5:06: They're back to carving circles around one another in midair, but this still feels more deliberately arranged than the others. Still flies, of course.

Matos W.K., Tuesday, 14 July 2009 04:51 (fourteen years ago) link

"Essa E Pra Tocar No Radio," 0:00: This would lead off any other album.

Matos W.K., Tuesday, 14 July 2009 04:51 (fourteen years ago) link

0:26: The bassist, Wagner, stops following (like a bloodhound), steps out, gets funky, countergrooves.

Matos W.K., Tuesday, 14 July 2009 04:53 (fourteen years ago) link

2:54: "1-2-3-4!" in Portuguese, I think; Gil is such a natural.

Matos W.K., Tuesday, 14 July 2009 04:55 (fourteen years ago) link

4:13: He could scream, too.

Matos W.K., Tuesday, 14 July 2009 04:56 (fourteen years ago) link

Somebody distract him with a Portuguese dictionary.

Horace Silver Machine (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 14 July 2009 04:56 (fourteen years ago) link

haha

Matos W.K., Tuesday, 14 July 2009 04:57 (fourteen years ago) link

5:58: Fades out, a rarity.

Matos W.K., Tuesday, 14 July 2009 04:57 (fourteen years ago) link

"Filhos De Gandhi," 2:12: This album is great and I'll stop now. Sorry and thanks.

Matos W.K., Tuesday, 14 July 2009 05:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Just say no to the killer weed, kids.

Matos W.K., Tuesday, 14 July 2009 05:04 (fourteen years ago) link

no the most beatiful album is construção by chico buarque.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 14 July 2009 13:11 (fourteen years ago) link

i was just listening to chico this morning on my ipod.

this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncBjLOVR4rg

and this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcyV-SgZnGQ

The Sorrows of Young Jeezy (jim), Tuesday, 14 July 2009 13:15 (fourteen years ago) link

also antonio carlos jobim made some amazingly beautiful music.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 14 July 2009 13:20 (fourteen years ago) link

matos fwiw i enjoyed yr blazed liveblog.

north sea jazz dit weekend (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 14 July 2009 13:40 (fourteen years ago) link

jurujurujurujurujurujurubeba

The Sorrows of Young Jeezy (jim), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 02:27 (fourteen years ago) link

two months pass...

I just bought this album on the strength of this thread. Thank you, ILX!

Daniel Giraffe, Thursday, 8 October 2009 08:31 (fourteen years ago) link

The options on this poll are very much in the spirit of this album. I can't say I listen to this all the time, but every so often it's the best thing ever.

Brio, Thursday, 8 October 2009 20:17 (fourteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

jurujurujurujurujurujurubeba

― The Sorrows of Young Jeezy (jim), Tuesday, July 14, 2009 10:27 PM (3 months ago)

k3vin k., Sunday, 25 October 2009 02:36 (fourteen years ago) link

alright im getting high every time i listen to this

k3vin k., Sunday, 25 October 2009 02:52 (fourteen years ago) link


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