How can it be that we have never polled RUMOURS by Fleetwood Mac?!

totally weird that no one did this!

probably cuz it's more or less one showstopper after another?

I believe this has been polled at least twice, once quite recently

or was I thinking of the s/t

Best Song on Fleetwood Mac's "Rumours"

loool this is probably the hardest poll ever for me

i note that i voted for silver springs on the other poll

I think the other poll doesn't come up in the search results cause of the quotation marks, fwiw

voted dreamz

d'oh. i guess "Rumours" doesn't come up when you search Rumours w/o quotes? xpxp

well i think i missed that one and am voting second hand news in this one.

this time, YMLF gets it

Right now it would be Never Going Back Again. Probably voted different in the other polls.

aw man my memory sucks. i posted on that other poll!

"The Chain" appears to be the favorite 20 years after hearing for the first time. Still, mostly classics all the way through this one.

just listened to this this morning, after watching the Classic Albums dvd last night. obv impossible to choose but today i'll go for YMLF.

Dreams or Go Your Own Way

oh man i love the drumming in the chorus before the 'don't break the spell' bit on you make loving fun SO SO MUCH

i love lindsay's pre-chorus ("i never did believe...") arpeggiations that he purged from the demo but he played live, eg:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoMWa3jRtLo

totally

YMLF, for "...but i've a feeling it's time to try"

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

Want to listen to this right now.

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

oh daddy always strikes out

Kinda surprised nobody voted for "Don't Stop". One of the biggest hits off the album and all....

I hate it.

Didn't even realize that this was a new poll. I would've voted for "You Make Loving Fun"

I don't mind "Don't Stop" but it's difficult to imagine an actual Fleetwood Mac fan plumping for it even if they like Christie most - "You Make Loving Fun" is not just better but a much better encapsulation of her strengths. Which is a misleading way to put it: the drawback for "Don't Stop" is that it's too strong, too blithe, whereas her finest songs ("Over My Head", "Say That You Love Me", "You Make Loving Fun", "Hold Me", "Love In Store", "Everywhere", "Little Lies", "Isn't It Midnight") all possess a wonderful blend of strength and fragility.

surprised at the winner, to be honest.

Sure, but there's a wistfulness in "Don't Stop" too; she's pumping herself up.

I can't believe the result here. I PROTEST. GOLD DUST WOMAN should have won!!! Do people listen to this regularly or did they just vote based on memory?

i voted "i don't wanna know" last time, might have gone for "second hand news" this time for variety.

I did vote for 'Gold Dust Woman' but honestly, any of these songs (except 'Don't Stop') would be a worthy winner of any poll.

nah, "oh daddy" deserves what it gets imo.
maybe it was less creepy to call ppl daddy in the seventies.

still listen to this on the regular btw--twice last week, at least.

I'm not sure it was less creepy then either! That song is chilling, for all the right reasons.

I think Don't Stop also suffers thanks to the Clintons, maybe?

Maybe 4 days is too short for a poll, especially when 2 of those days are holidays?

Oh Daddy in the 80's:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2a4uf_adrian-belew-oh-daddy_music

The last minute of "Second Hand News" sounds like the armies of Mordor marching, especially the bass rolling like thundah. There's a bit of disconnect between that martial sound & the ostensible subject-matter of the song, unless the idea is that the "stuff" he wants to do is sinister.

cocaine obv

"marching powder"

DOWNDOWNDOWNDOWNDOWNDOWNDOWNDOWNDOWNDOWNDOWNDOWNDOWNDOWNDOWNDOWNVVDOWNDOWNDOWNDOWN

was i the only one to vote for "songbird" in this poll? come on! (it is possible that i did not vote in this poll, though).

I would have voted The Chain, followed by Go Your Own Way, and Never Goin' Back Again.

the Lindsey Buckingham chorus is just such a tonal shift from the verse, and the rideout harmonized vocals are fantastic.

btw tylerw I considered Songbird...good song.

I'm 35, have listened to this album hundreds of times, and am only now understanding the relationships it limns.

First listen: great pop songs with a tough rhythm section!
Second listen: three distinct excellent singer-songwriters!
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Four hundred-third listen: They're talking about my life.

listened to it again the other night and was struck by how sophisticated it is - in songwriting, production, subject matter, even attitude considering what was going on behind the scenes. it's such an Adult album in a trad juvenile genre.

i sure as hell wouldn't sing backing vocals on a song accusing me of "shacking up" with other people.

still listen to this on the regular btw--twice last week, at least.

― ian, Monday, September 21, 2009 12:13 PM (11 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Me too. It's so good.

Would have voted Go Your Own Way or maybe Second Hand News. This is tough!

I got the remastered two-disc set recently. It's got an alternate 'You Make Loving Fun' with different backing vocals in all the wrong places, which is pretty awesome.

unless it was the white vinyl? but even that i think doesn'ts ell for $20.

no, i'm pretty sure this was just a regular copy in decent shape. think it had a sticker on the slip that said "first pressing" or some BS. the rest of this guy's stuff was way overpriced too, but Rumours just really stood out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLD1ZKOGJgI

i really love this version of 'never going back again'

thanks for posting -- I thought he was going to go into "mother nature's son" at the bridge!

think it had a sticker on the slip that said "first pressing" or some BS

Hot stamper!!!

I love singing along in harmony with "Secondhand News".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QBwKKGSdO8

^^^thinking about when songs like this and silver springs get left off a record it ~blows me away~.

Currently the #11 album in the U.S.A.

damn you, you beat me.

and on the same week that Stevie Nicks' new album debuts too.

this is hilarious

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQeBWNRi1nY

shit gets real at :50

guitar faces come fast and hard at 1:35 in this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2kPuSH9Pvc

Is this Glee's doing? ('Oh Daddy' was robbed here btw)

from billboard:

Right outside the top 10 is Fleetwood Mac's 1977 album "Rumours," which re-enters at No. 11 with just under 30,000 (up 1,951%) thanks to exposure gleaned from the May 3 episode of Fox TV's "Glee," which dedicated its entire hour to the album. Of its almost 30,000 haul last week, a full 91% were downloads. The week previous, the set sold just over 1,000 total copies.

from wikipedia: Will tells April about the current glee club tensions, which she likens to Fleetwood Mac when they were making their Rumours album. Will and April sing Dreams to the club, and he assigns the album to get them focused back on music.

It still sells a thousand a week, thirty-four years later?! Lindsay must eat & drink money.

He has a recording studio made out of gold bars, with bathroom tiles glued over them for that echo.

he also keeps the entire USC marching band circa 1980 in an italian villa, just in case he needs them.

I'm watching this right now (and hopefully further lining Lindsay's pockets indirectly)

Lindsey, jeez - I always do that

i don't want to know = the secret best song on this record.

I keep forgetting about that one. If I'd have voted in this poll when it first came up I would have went for 'You Make Loving Fun' immediately. It's all about John McVie's bass playing and the background harmonies in the chorus for me. He must have been thrilled to play bass on it, though.

Has the original mix of Silver Springs ever been on CD?

i don't want to know = the secret best song on this record.

― tylerw, Friday, October 28, 2011

Got the superduper reissue today - the 'new' outtakes are really great, kinda baffled that the 2004 reissue didn't use them instead of the barely different mixes. Things like Lindsey and Stevie duetting on Never Going Back again, which has bongos, brushes, piano and different guitar licks, a Stevie demo of 'The Chain' that is a completely different tune apart from the chorus (and 'Keep Me There', a completely different song where the end of The Chain comes from, but can't remember whether that was on the 2004 one), Dreams with just the Rhodes/minimal guitar riffs, a really intimate demo of Songbird...

Live disc is kinda perfunctory, but a nice set of performances and sounds super clean, haven't watched the DVD yet, and the vinyl is lovely.

Also, infuriatingly, absolutely no mention of where these things come from, dates, etc, in the book, but maybe that's asking a bit too much. Got Ken Caillat's book for that, but it's a bit light at points.

Someone pointed out the other day Mick's trucknuts on the cover and now I can't unsee them as trucknuts.

Ken Caillat's head was undoubtedly a bit 'light at points' during the making of the record, mind!

Haha, no kidding...

haha I just noticed someone (Lindsey, presumably) whispers "fuck" at the beginning of "The Chain"

Ha wow, good spot!

First listen: great pop songs with a tough rhythm section!
Second listen: three distinct excellent singer-songwriters!
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Four hundred-third listen: They're talking about my life.

― Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, September 8, 2010 4:03 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

alfred otm

sweet. "dreams" is my favorite from this album.

Never heard this demo of "Dreams" before, the backing track is a pretty different direction then what was committed to the LP:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIt7SpT_06M

Would've voted "Silver Springs" if it made the LP. Have to say "Dreams" though.

Silver Springs was cut out of spite by Lindsey, right? according to Stevie, I Don't Want to Know was an old Buckingham/Nicks song that Lindsey insisted on re-recording in lieu of putting Silver Springs on the record (both couldn't be included because of side length).

I believe "Silver Springs" was cut because there was not enough space on the LP and the band didn't think it fit with the feel of the album. However, it's one of the most achingly pointed love songs she wrote about Lindsey.

Should've been a landslide for Dreams

xp i can't remember which Fmac book/autobio i read this in, but Silver Springs was recorded early on and bumped before time was an issue- Lindsey insisted on re-recording I Don't Want to Know in its place.

Was just checking the expanded CD, and Rumours w/"Silver Springs" weighs in at 44:50, which I guess would have messed up the dynamic range on vinyl some.

I wrote it for Rumours, and fourteen years ago I walked into the studio and the record was basically done. It was at the Record Plant, and Mick said, 'Stevie, I need vou to come outside to the parking lot cause I need to talk to vou for a minute.' And I knew it was reallv serious 'cause Mick never asks you to go out to the parking lot for anything.

So we walked to the huge Record Plant parking lot and he said, 'I'm taking Silver Springs off the record.' And, of course, my first reaction was, 'Why?' And he said, 'There's a lot of reasons, but because basicallv it's just too long. And we think that there's another of vour songs that's better, so that's what we want to do.' Before I started to get upset about Silver Springs, I said, 'What other song?' And he said, 'A song called I Don't Want To Know.' And I said, 'But I don't want that song on this record.' And he said, 'Well, then don't sing it.'

And then I started to scream bloody murder and probablv said every horriblv mean thing that you could possibly say to another human being, and walked back in the studio completely flipped out. I said, 'Well, I'm not gonna sing I Don't Want To Know. I am one-fifth of this band.' And they said. 'Well, if vou don't like it, you can either (a) take a hike or (b) you better go out there and sing I Don't Want To Know or you're only gonna have two songs on the record.' And so, basically, with a gun to my head, I went out and sang I Don't Want To Know. And they put Silver Springs on the back of Go Your Own Way.

~Stevie Nicks, BBC radio interview, 1991

Stevie also speaks about in that great Classic Albums documentary MaresNest posted on the Fleetwood Mac: C or D thread.

there should be a Fleetwood Mac bootleg series

the bass played on The Chain supposedly for sale

https://reverb.com/item/6414168-alembic-series-graphite-john-mcvie-actual-bass?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIrLT5weHs2QIVT6ppCh2usw_IEAEYASAEEgLz-vD_BwE&pla=1

yow

that is one ugly-as-sin bass

how in the world did "go your own way" win this with twice as many votes as "dreams"

Karl read my mind.

yeah Dreams is far ahead of anything else on this flawless classic