Mike Batt V John Cage

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what do people think of this then?

― commonswings, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Mike Batt! Mike Batt!

― T, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

hey you know the guy in ally mcbeal: dyou think he's called john cage on purpose or by mistake?

― mark s, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Stricyly speakin, it's Batt vs. Peters Edition. There was some stuff on this on NYLPM yesterday. I can't really add much to what Pete and mark said there.

"Mike Batt Bubblegum" - nope, doesn't really work, does it?

― Jeff W, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"Stricyly speakin"???

― Jeff W, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Next these copyright-owners will be selling "Variations II" to Nike.

― Mark, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

hey you know the guy in ally mcbeal: dyou think he's called john cage on purpose or by mistake?

Mistake! David E. Kelly gets all of his ideas from daytime soap operas and soft-porn*, I don't think he knows anything outside of that.

*this actually makes his shows sound good but they are not

― Nicole, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I do not know who John Cage is, but I presume that he has not been responsible for a horrible "glam-rock" perversion of English folk music (vide Daily Telegraph 19 03 01). Ergo I regard him as preferable to the odious Mr Batt, who purports to support my political party but clearly does not share its values.

― Anthony Sanderson, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Nor, by those criteria, did the Thatcher government.

― Robin Carmody, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh do be quiet you common little oik Carmody! Mrs Thatcher saved our country from destruction by Communist trade unions. Considering recent developments in at least one major union, we need another woman of her stature today.

― Anthony Sanderson, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

She also destroyed the England you love, Anthony. Not that you'll ever realise that ...

― Robin Carmody, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Do stop being such an awful little tick, Carmody. I shall now retreat to my back copies of the Salisbury Review. I am sorry for my return to this message board - I have today attended the funeral of the only other surviving member of the Nene Valley Conservative Association, which has now been wound up because you cannot really have a Conservative Association with only one member, even if that member is me. It is very sad.

― Anthony Sanderson, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Bon vovage, Anthony. May you never soil these green pastures again ...

― Robin Carmody, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

don't you ever get like tired of this robin?

― Josh, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

John Cage's 4'33 was original, Mike Batt's 'A One Minute Silence' is a rip off.

John Cage was an original classical composer, he is also dead, and if he was alive he probably would have never sued Mike Batt in the first place.

― Geoffrey Balasoglou, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I do, Josh. I was merely taking an opportune moment to lay an old ghost to rest.

― Robin Carmody, Sunday, 21 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I keep reading this as "Mike Watt v. John Cage", which makes me think that someone should make a bootleg called "Political Song for David Tudor to Sing".

― Colin Meeder, Monday, 22 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

A note of interest: I believe that old anarcho-punks Crass had a similar "idea", of having several minutes of silence on one of their albums and titling it "The Sound Of Free Speech". I haven't heard it myself but I've a fair idea of how it goes.

― tacit, Monday, 22 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The greatest song ever will be a bootleg called "Smells Like 4'33"."

― B-Rad, Monday, 22 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

B-Rad, that was Great!

― Sterling Clover, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I've thought about this a bit and I think the Cage people have a very good point. "Let's make a song but it'll be just be, like, SILENCE" thinks Mike Batt - cor, but someone's thought of that haven't they? Just to show that he Really Knows What's Up and no-one will mistake him for an Uneducated Fool he credits Cage on the "song" as well he should because it's maybe the most famous conceptual audio piece ever invented. But what - the credit was a "joke"? Does Batt actually think he's come up with something original?

― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

batt claims that the cage who the song is credited to is "clint cage" a pseudonym for himself. i'm reckoning that batt thought he'd tilt at the windmills of what he sees as the pretentious guff of modern classical music - or arty farty nonsense in his mind. he's a tory and probably a luddite, so this is his form of comfy rebellion which wonderfully exploded in his face. i can't hate batt though - the string arrangements for "apple venus" were lovely and - well - the wombles quite frankly...

― commonswings, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

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