100 Albums You Should Definitely GET RID OF, according to Wes Kose

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Lord Custos III, Saturday, 20 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

this guy is right on (i think) 85 alb. (just glanced over it). but you know, it's another boring feature from another boring web retard who should be trying to listen to new recs and trying to convince us that there is something to look forward to.

It's a sunny sat afternoon and I'd rather look at this Sun ra LP and figure out how to open the packaging properly for a change without damaging it (just bought it after i had lunch).

Julio Desouza, Saturday, 20 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I am proud to announce that my 1000+ sized collection does not contain a single one of these 100 albums. I demand applause!

Siegbran Hetteson, Saturday, 20 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

When I said the Vice article was funnier than most things of this sort, this is what I meant by 'things of this sort'. God I hate webzines.

J Blount, Saturday, 20 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

How about I stick my hand under my armpit and make farting sounds? That's... kind of applause. At least the kind I think such a statement warrants, har har.

Oddly enough I agree with Julio DeStoogehater: Any dipshit can gripe about "OMG THIS ALBUM IS POPULAR BUT I HATE IT". Few people can do it in an entertaining fashion (I'm pretty sure I can't), so shut yr hole and tell us what you think is actually cool and interesting and worth listening to. That way, if it turns out that your readers find your "cool" "interesting" "worth listening to" stuff is great, you can feel as though you've actually enlightened them somewhat. And if they laugh at you and say "the music you like sucks", then they get to find out how goddamned irritating those "YR MUSIC IS SHITE" articles are.

I'd ask where Tanya "Topper" Headon fits into this but I'm already pushing things with giving her that nickname.

Nate Patrin, Saturday, 20 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"then they get to find out" should be "then you get to find out" but I hope you got the jist anyhow.

Nate Patrin, Saturday, 20 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Dull criticism. If one could really tease out my insecurities for owning certain albums, I'd be much more distressed and impressed. This article is just boring.

bnw, Saturday, 20 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I went off on it but mostly because the choices were stupid (either ultra-heavy-handed canon- smashing "Coltrane=SHIT" ohsoedgy blasphemy or predictable "This is not HIP enough" teardowns of popular but not universally loved albums. And their arguments are LAME: how about finding some more thought-provoking reason to dislike Hello Nasty besides "the Beastie Boys are IN THEIR THIRTIES oh no call Meals on Wheels and break out the Depends and find their dentures (ferchrissakes, they already made that joke themselves on the Sounds of Science cover).

Nate Patrin, Saturday, 20 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

does everybody round these parts have blogs?! C'mon nate, saying this guys article was shit isn't rocket science. in the glance i made earlier the problem i found with this wasn't that he hated SY or husker du or 'trane, it's the reasoning. Why is TMR rub and so on? I quite like to read a demolition of alb/artist that i like (it would make me look at a rec from a different angle, if nothing else).

Julio Desouza, Saturday, 20 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

You mention blogs as though they are a bad thing!
I also made no mention of rocket science or brain surgery or astrophysics or Godspeed You Black Emperor. I'm merely agreeing with the stupid reasonings=crap article thing. I just so happen to think the fact that he hates SY/HD/JC is also kind of lame but then I get defensive like that.

Nate Patrin, Saturday, 20 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

#90 would be my pick for a desert island disc.

The list tries to touch on many different styles of music and picks the most obviously overplayed of that particular style. He sadly misses out on "hair metal", so I suspect that is his preferred listening. Def Leppard, Van Halen, Poison, etc all deserve to have entries on that list long before any Beatles make an appearance.

gelatin, Saturday, 20 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

my experience of reading blogs/webzines, etc. is that the ppl writing have fuck all to say. They are mostly rub because ppl have to come up w/interesting things to say fairly regurlarly because they must be updated every so often, which is pretty difficult really. I'm not saying this applies to you nate because I haven't read yours until today (and i only read your rant anyway) but most of them suck.

Julio Desouza, Saturday, 20 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I have 19 of these, including half of the top ten (numbers 3, 4, 8, 9 and 10, if you care). The reasons are universally feeble.

Martin Skidmore, Saturday, 20 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

too many straw man/woman records...celine dion ? hole ? "mellencolie and the infinite sadness" ? every bully has to start somewhere.

mike (ro)bott, Saturday, 20 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I know Julio sez we're not supposed to like blogs because they're so boring and everything but Nate your blog is really nice - good work

John Darnielle, Saturday, 20 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

john- correction, I don't like blogs. I never said ppl shouldn't like blogs.

Julio Desouza, Saturday, 20 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Point taken Julio - just takin' the piss, 'cause, I dunno, blogs seem so benign a target - no harm/sleight intended

John Darnielle, Saturday, 20 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

This would be a little better if the writers weren't so crappy at being hipsters. Here are some blunders:

1. "...the masterful Achtung Baby" - look, U2 are never cool, but praising a 90s U2 album is beyond the pale.

2. Blood Sugar Sex Magick - "the triumph of style over substance" - hey, this complaint sounds sort of like one that would be made by just the sort of canon-fellaters this list is trying to make fun of!

3. "Most jazz created after the Big Band Era is just musical masturbation" - man, that's so original.

4. praising the first two Police albums

5. complaining about bad lyrics

6. Mogwai are boring - again, so original!

7. Dissing prog rock

8. "To label [Offspring] as punk is an insult to all the actual punk bands past and present" - yeah, fuck yeah, man. Punk fucking rock. Is there ANYTHING more unhip than punk righteousness?

9. calling the new Wu-Tang album a "joint" - hey, did you hear? Brad Haywood-isms are aggressively wack (tee-hee I said a black-person word!).

There are more; oh, there are more.

Clarke B., Saturday, 20 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

john- it's OK. And, you know, there isn't much harm in saying that most blogs aren't worth the internet time.

Julio Desouza, Saturday, 20 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

clarke- very nice of you to actually bother reading such thrash.

Julio Desouza, Saturday, 20 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Julio, yeah, I don't know what got into me. That's five minutes of my life I ain't gettin' back.

Clarke B., Saturday, 20 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

clarke- you say this as if it isn't a big deal BUT clarke you must live life to the full man! Today it's five minutes, then tomorrow it's fifty. It all builds up if you're not careful.

Julio Desouza, Saturday, 20 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

it was funnier when motorbooty did it...

mike (ro)bott, Saturday, 20 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

canon-fellators. I love that. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Lord Custos III, Saturday, 20 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"BUT clarke you must live life to the full man! Today it's five minutes, then tomorrow it's fifty. It all builds up if you're not careful."
Julio W.K.! (also thanx John)

Nate Patrin, Saturday, 20 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Lotsa too easy targets. And too much striving fer breadth. But kicking the Beastie Boys, Death Cab for Cutie, and Hüsker Dü in the nuts is always a good thing (even if the delivery is a little too snarky).

And while it's OK to diss Mr. Zappa generally (Mr. Sinker does it all the time) and We're Only In It for the Money specifically -- de gustibus non est disputatum, etc. -- the reasons given are kinda, well, not applicable to that album. Mr. Zappa didn't do "jazz fusion" till Hot Rats (maybe that's the one they should have gone after?), and the musical target is more "flower-power" pop than "acid rock." Personally, I would've picked either Hot Rats or Sheikh Yerbouti if I had to gratuitously slag an FZ album, but that's just me.

Tadeusz Suchodolski, Saturday, 20 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

And oh yeah, the arch dismissal of free jazz as "musical masturbation" was pretty philistine and masturbatory itself. Don't have to like Coleman or free jazz, mind, but the comment was a little too musically illiterate and lazy to pass by without a Bronx cheer or two.

Tadeusz Suchodolski, Saturday, 20 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

why is it a faux-pas to complain about bad lyrics?

charlie va, Saturday, 20 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

''Julio W.K.!''

what are you talking abt Nate?

Julio Desouza, Saturday, 20 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Commenting on the albums chosen, or the criticism or anything other than slating the tired and stupid idea that it is=the terrorists have won.

Ronan, Saturday, 20 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"albums you're supposed to definitely suck but instead should get rid of" - lists to make you realize that lists are wrong - pff - don't waste time on it!

Eas Kose, Saturday, 20 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

That "live life to the fullest" bit sounded like one of Andrew W.K.'s weirdo ramblings, or at least a tiny less-weird-than-usual excerpt.
Explaining the joke sort of takes the fun out of it all dunnit? (What little fun there was at least)

Nate Patrin, Saturday, 20 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

haha if all 100 had been zappa albs this would have been the GREATEST ARTICLE EVAH!! (coltrane = 2nd best)

also what east-coast liberal-establishment would-be feminazi faux-populist hipster rockist PC blogger geek decided that you are "supposed to have" lists of this length, eh?

mark s, Sunday, 21 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

HA!! you CAN'T ANSWER saddos!!

mark s, Sunday, 21 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

east-coast liberal-establishment would-be feminazi faux-populist hipster rockist

Was it Caroline Sullivan?

Alexander Blair, Sunday, 21 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

captain beefhearts trout mask replica. wtf? if i could even find a copy in this town, i'd consider myself very lucky indeed. "arhythmic" is supposedly a cutting criticism need i say more??!!

di, Sunday, 21 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

other than that i don't really have anything to say about this list. it seems a lot less controversial than they make it out to be in the disclaimer at the start.

di, Sunday, 21 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

oh yeah the coltrane thing was pretty dumm too. but people like paula cole and alicia keys are sorta obvious targets.

di, Sunday, 21 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I am proud to announce that my 1000+ sized collection does not contain a single one of these 100 albums. I demand applause!

*applause* That is pretty great -- I have about 30. I promise you the guy who wrote it has like 70. This list is dishonest.

Mark, Sunday, 21 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Check the intro again -- this is a list compiled from 16 different people. Like I said on NYLPM via comments, I'm sorta surprised over all the bile this piece has gotten.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 21 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

it's because it isn't 17, ned

mark s, Sunday, 21 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Hmm. If you've aleady got these albums you know what you think of them. Why would this preening tosser's opinion of them be of any interest?

Why MUST you get rid of these (instead of, for example, just leaving them unplayed? - they don't take up SO much space). Because (the clear implication is) they are evidence: they betray your lack of cool. As usual with pop journalists the real subject matter is hipness, not music. "You mean you STILL think Beefheart is cool? Cutting edge hipsters have moved on!" If this kind of guide-to-cool matters to you no record collection is going to compensate for your basic fucked-upness.

wow, Sunday, 21 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

''Check the intro again -- this is a list compiled from 16 different people. Like I said on NYLPM via comments, I'm sorta surprised over all the bile this piece has gotten''

I know: it says on the bottom of the intro. But the basic criticism still stands. For a lot of these recs there aren't any good reasons for why are these alb. crap. Therefore most of the ppl who had any input into this article are guilty!

''That "live life to the fullest" bit sounded like one of Andrew W.K.'s weirdo ramblings, or at least a tiny less-weird-than-usual excerpt.''

Saw a 'performance' by andrew W.K. actually. I think the name of the song was 'i get wet'. Just seeing this guy bang his head around the stage made my eyes tired. It was entertaining while it lasted.

Julio Desouza, Sunday, 21 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

it's because it isn't 17, ned

Ah well, this is true.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 21 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

My respect for the list would go skyward, disagreements be damned, if Neutral Milk Hotel were somewhere on it.

ciaran, Monday, 22 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

one year passes...
My thoughts on the list: he got the bands 99% right,
but he got the albums wrong.

Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Saturday, 17 April 2004 03:17 (twenty-two years ago)

ALL NIN ALBUMS SHOULD BE BURNED. STUPID DEPRESSED TEENAGER ROCK, BLEHH!

SCARF MCGEE, Saturday, 17 April 2004 19:32 (twenty-two years ago)

That's the laziest criticism of Nevermind I've ever read.

Stupid (Stupid), Saturday, 17 April 2004 20:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Actually, reading through, these are ALL lazy and obvious criticisms.

Stupid (Stupid), Saturday, 17 April 2004 20:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Agreed.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 17 April 2004 20:13 (twenty-two years ago)

I disagree strongly w/ the Roots, Coltrane, and Paul's Boutique, but for the most part dead-on.

djdee2005, Sunday, 18 April 2004 00:46 (twenty-two years ago)

With selections, obviously. The writing sucks.

djdee2005, Sunday, 18 April 2004 00:49 (twenty-two years ago)

If I hear one more stupid fucking lameass rock critic call Nirvana "a bunch of Pixies ripoffs" or something to that effect... GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!

It's articles like these that make me hate rock critics. My copy of Tim is staying right where it is, fuckface!! What're ya gonna do about it?? NOTHING!!!

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Sunday, 18 April 2004 01:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Nirvana didn't rip off the Pixies or the Clash. They did steal some moves from Rancid though. The punk to grunge connection may seem unlikely, but it was actually the keystone element of Nirvana's "new" sound. So all you critics shut the hell up about the Pixies and the Clash. They both sound like a twenty year old stereo bought at a garage sale playing the Go-Go's turned up as loud as it can go, distortioned out to the max. No talent, but lots of headache invoking noise. Oh yeah, I'm not dead, just had to fake my death to get the hell away from that psycho bitch Courtney. Pardon me while I go sip some Pennyroyal Tea.

Kurt Cobain, Sunday, 18 April 2004 01:54 (twenty-two years ago)

This list still sucks. The purpose of summat like this is to a; be amusing and b; trounce some sacred horses. It does neither often enough.

Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Sunday, 18 April 2004 07:09 (twenty-two years ago)

i finally got around to that wayans brothers movie don't be a menace 2 society while drinking your juice in the hood. i laughed way more than i expected. the grandmother was funny. and so was that one guy's hair. sometimes cable is really worth it. i never would have seen kung pow without having cable. even after i saw the fight scene between him and the cow that was all matrix-ed out on the internet, i didn't really think, i should rent that. but i stumbled on it one night, and laughed my ass off. the wife was out and i finished off the six pack of red stripe and had a blast. it was total happenstance.

frankE, Sunday, 18 April 2004 07:14 (twenty-two years ago)

I can't freaking believe that Boxcar Willie's "King of the Hobos" volume 1 and 2 aren't on that list! You know you have it and yes you probably should get rid of it.

Spiffy Pants, Monday, 19 April 2004 16:45 (twenty-two years ago)


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