So what should be searched out and what destroyed?
― The Dirty Vicar, Monday, 30 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― the pinefox, Monday, 30 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Dr. C, Monday, 30 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― kate the saint, Monday, 30 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
I can think of five bands off the top of my head who were on C86 and who I prefer to the Shop Assistants, incidentally. I think past "Somewhere In China" and "Safety Net" the Shop Assistants are not worth the effort, all the songs seem like inferior versions of those two.
― Tim, Monday, 30 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
Search: A friendly bloke at MVC in Romford who commended me for my Sly & The Family Stone purchase (I like being flattered)
Destroy: Beardy blokes in the Camden Record Exchange, who seemed to be snorting at everyone's purchase.
― DG, Monday, 30 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
I actually do love a great deal of C86, cause clearly- I'm a huge Shop Assistants fan- but then if I had a pound for every time someone says "C86, Sarah records, etc." and proceed to list a dire pit of wibbling that starts with the Trembling Blue Stars and ends with Belle and Sebastian.
― kate the saint, Tuesday, 1 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
Let me rephrase that: Belle & Sebastian should not be lumped in with other bands. They centre on a songwriter whose intuitive grasp of melody is the best in the UK that I'm aware of. I like the Shop Assistants, and might (or might not) like some of the other bands that Kate doesn't really mention, but I don't think that the same claims can be made for any of them that can be made for B&S.
― the pinefox, Tuesday, 1 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
You know, I don't even mind B&S. I own most of their albums, and I do listen to them more than occasionally. But the fact remains I have never met a N&S *FAN* that I have liked. Sure, I have many friends who have the same feeling towards them, like them, think their songwriting and musicianship is good... however, people who LOVE them to the point of naming their screen-names, cats, clubs after them ANNOY me to the point where I start to hold it against the band.
Methinks this is a new thread, actually...
― kate the saint, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Tom, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
Search "It's Up to You" from the C86 cassette. What is that? A xylophone? It's so beautiful.
― Amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 24 February 2003 11:28 (twenty-one years ago) link
also I don´t wanna be friends with you is their second best songand their cover of the Pleasure seekers song "What a way to die"
― Jens (brighter), Monday, 24 February 2003 19:04 (twenty-one years ago) link
― schnell schnell, Monday, 24 February 2003 19:07 (twenty-one years ago) link
I think I damaged my hearing and vocal chords listening to that one a few months ago on repeat.
my favorite track of theirs is the "Train from Kansas City" cover (actually the one on the Sounds(I think it was Sounds) 7" giveaway is even better).
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 24 February 2003 20:10 (twenty-one years ago) link
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Monday, 24 February 2003 23:39 (twenty-one years ago) link
seriously, one of my favorite bands of all time. can't think of a single bad song.
― mike a (mike a), Monday, 24 February 2003 23:41 (twenty-one years ago) link
A friend taped me an album called "Will Anything Happen," which compiles most of the songs mentioned here along with "All Day Long" and other instant classics. Whether they were proto-riot-grrrl or post-Jesus and Mary Chain, they pretty much defined a sound that's been dipped into by everyone from Heavenly to Slumber Party. Somebody reissue them, please.
― Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 25 February 2003 18:42 (twenty-one years ago) link
-- Amateurist (amateuris...) (webmail), February 24th, 2003 3:28 AM. (amateurist) (link)
so is it a xylophone?????
so if someone has their lp on cd and can possibly copy it for me, er, let me know. i'm dying to have it on something besides a very worn out cassette.
― amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 1 July 2004 03:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― zappi (joni), Thursday, 1 July 2004 09:21 (nineteen years ago) link
xpost
― koogs (koogs), Thursday, 1 July 2004 09:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― bham, Thursday, 1 July 2004 09:31 (nineteen years ago) link
Search Silver : the "Shop Assistants" LP
other : The first e.p.
not exactly destroy, but... : anything else without Alex (alex? yeah?)
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 1 July 2004 09:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 1 July 2004 09:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark e (mark e), Thursday, 1 July 2004 09:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 1 July 2004 09:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 1 July 2004 09:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 1 July 2004 10:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― NickB (NickB), Thursday, 1 July 2004 10:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 1 July 2004 10:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― NickB (NickB), Thursday, 1 July 2004 10:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 1 July 2004 10:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― NickB (NickB), Thursday, 1 July 2004 10:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 1 July 2004 10:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark e (mark e), Thursday, 1 July 2004 12:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 1 July 2004 12:02 (nineteen years ago) link
Lyrics go "I'm so bored, what can I do? I'm so bored, here we go again!" and there's a trumpet in the background, and I know it's on Will Anything Happen, but I can't remember the title of it, and googling does me no good because the only site I can find has a track listing, but no lyrics...
Help me! I've actually got a bet riding on this.
Is it "All That Ever Mattered"? Is it "Caledonian Road"? I can't actually remember!
― The 120 Days Of Streatham (kate), Monday, 20 September 2004 08:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― bham, Monday, 20 September 2004 10:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― guitarist, Wednesday, 26 April 2006 20:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 20:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― Pete Scholtes (Pete Scholtes), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 22:54 (seventeen years ago) link
― Pete Scholtes (Pete Scholtes), Thursday, 19 October 2006 14:20 (seventeen years ago) link
― Blah Blah Blah (kate), Thursday, 19 October 2006 14:25 (seventeen years ago) link
It's remarkable how good they were. So solid, so sound; not frail and lame but lush and throbbing.
― the pinefox, Monday, 17 March 2008 13:23 (sixteen years ago) link
Singles good, album misproduced.
― Dingbod Kesterson, Monday, 17 March 2008 13:27 (sixteen years ago) link
I didn't think I liked 'Train From Kansas City' that much, but actually the lead guitar at the end is pretty hard and heavy. And it struck me as the song reached its platform that 'Train From Wycombe' might have been written as some kind of dim homage to that title.
― the pinefox, Monday, 17 March 2008 17:40 (sixteen years ago) link
Actually I'm sure that 'After Dark' is their second best track: miraculously gentle, poised, delicate, hushed, travelling.
― the pinefox, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 14:44 (sixteen years ago) link
hmmm, they're cool but talulah gosh were wayyyyyyy better
-- schnell schnell, Monday, 24 February 2003 19:07 (5 years ago) Bookmark Link
QFT
― r1o natsume, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 15:01 (sixteen years ago) link
MySpace page gone, but Wikipedia page looks better:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shop_Assistants
― Pete Scholtes, Saturday, 5 April 2008 22:43 (sixteen years ago) link
"Big Rock Candy Mountain" by Motorcycle Boy is one of the catchiest songs ever.
― Spencer Chow, Saturday, 5 April 2008 23:34 (sixteen years ago) link
One day, I WILL find the Buba & the Shop Assistants single.
I love this band, although I also probably like Talulah Gosh better.
― Colonel Poo, Saturday, 5 April 2008 23:55 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.emusic.com/label/Shop-Assistants-Setanta-Songs-MP3-Download/144268.html
― Pete Scholtes, Saturday, 12 July 2008 18:24 (fifteen years ago) link
I'd still love to see a proper reissue, and they could fit the two 1990 singles on this and still make it one CD.
― Pete Scholtes, Sunday, 13 July 2008 21:39 (fifteen years ago) link
It's also missing the Shopping Parade EP, presumably cos it was on Subway. This does have the Safety Net EP on it which the Overground CD didn't have. Is this mp3-only then?
― Colonel Poo, Sunday, 13 July 2008 21:51 (fifteen years ago) link
Whoops, it's even missing "After Dark" from the version of "Will Anything Happen?" I have on tape. Arg, somebody reissue everything!
Meanwhile, just found this:
http://www.indie-mp3.net/shopassistants/index.htm
― Pete Scholtes, Sunday, 13 July 2008 22:20 (fifteen years ago) link
'After Dark' is maybe one of the greatest songs ever recorded by a band like this. That gliding oblivious lead through the verses!
― the pinefox, Sunday, 15 February 2009 19:54 (fifteen years ago) link
Okay, I think I've tracked down nearly everything you can download online:
http://blogs.citypages.com/pscholtes/2009/04/the_shop_assist.php
Buy the reissue CD on Amazon (which includes "After Dark"), buy a few tracks on eMusic (through they're obviously taken from old records), and download the rest.
― Pete Scholtes, Saturday, 25 April 2009 17:39 (fifteen years ago) link
Been back to these guys a lot the last couple of weeks but I have to say there's not much beyond "Safety Net" that I feel the need to keep with me.
― Easy Hippo Rider (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 April 2009 17:50 (fifteen years ago) link
While I've been coming around to mike a's view.
― Pete Scholtes, Saturday, 25 April 2009 20:59 (fifteen years ago) link
Well don't get me wrong it's all good but I think ironically it's the sonic aggro that I'd forgotten about that makes it a bit wallpaper-y for me.
― Easy Hippo Rider (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 April 2009 21:01 (fifteen years ago) link
Listening to this lost Motorcycle Boy album, Scarlet and it's really gorgeous!
The singles after "Big Rock Candy Mountain" were underwhelming, but work much better on the album.
A shame it was never properly released. Alex's voice, lovely but filled with forlorn gravitas, is so good on virtually everything she ever recorded.
― Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:30 (thirteen years ago) link
Just downloaded what I could get from Mr Scholtes' very helpful page of links.
This is particularly goodhttp://icoulddietomorrow.blogspot.com/2009/02/shop-assistants-7-collection.html
I couldn't get everything but I now have 28 tracks, 1:11 playing time, which is more than an hour more digital Shop Assistants than I had a few days ago. And almost all of it is a great pleasure to hear.
― the pinefox, Thursday, 3 February 2011 13:41 (thirteen years ago) link
Whatever happened to Alex, and why didn't it?
― Mark G, Thursday, 3 February 2011 13:47 (thirteen years ago) link
A taste of this absolutely amazing lost album:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZqrHi9-IggI'm not the uploader
― Spencer Chow, Monday, 2 February 2015 08:31 (nine years ago) link
I should add that's from The Motorcycle Boy 'Scarlet'.
― Spencer Chow, Monday, 2 February 2015 08:51 (nine years ago) link
what's the SA connection? am confused.
― I dunno. (amateurist), Monday, 2 February 2015 23:35 (nine years ago) link
Same lead singer.
― everything, Monday, 2 February 2015 23:53 (nine years ago) link
Spencer, thanks for reminding me of the Motorcycle Boy album - I completely forgot I had it! It inspired me to download the singles as well. Seems ripe for a Cherry Red reissue!
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 21:31 (nine years ago) link
Dd that album actually get released? Looks like it made the rounds online a few years ago but I can't track it down now. Sounds right up my alley based on that YouTube clip.
― early rejecter, Thursday, 5 February 2015 05:41 (nine years ago) link
that track is rather lovely, though not up to shop assistants' best (what is?)
YSI?
― I dunno. (amateurist), Thursday, 5 February 2015 06:05 (nine years ago) link
This was my fav Motorcycle Boy song, still sounds great
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=es8OglraRUc
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Thursday, 5 February 2015 06:49 (nine years ago) link
xxpost to myself. Managed to find it. Only one track in so far but sounds good! Thanks for posting Spencer.
― early rejecter, Friday, 6 February 2015 21:55 (nine years ago) link
um... (sotto voce) YSI?
― I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 6 February 2015 22:21 (nine years ago) link
I'm on a train at the moment but I'll get you a link at some point this weekend I Dunno. Are there rules/restrictions about that sort of thing here?
― early rejecter, Friday, 6 February 2015 22:32 (nine years ago) link
would it perhaps be a train from kansas city?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OZA4u5IsEY
― I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 6 February 2015 22:54 (nine years ago) link
what's better than soulseek for getting good albums?
― everything, Friday, 6 February 2015 23:19 (nine years ago) link
This should work, I Dunno: https://www.hightail.com/download/UlRRbGtHSyt0TW5MbjhUQw
Everything: I've never used Soulseek so I don't know what's better, but for this kind of thing I usually search a blog aggregator like munju.net (which is down at the moment).
― early rejecter, Sunday, 8 February 2015 20:03 (nine years ago) link
geez, I downloaded some Motorcycle Boy tracks (but not the entire album) in 2008 at the height of my Shop Assistants obsession, but I don't think I've ever listened to them. thanks for the link, early rejecter.
― i ain't marchant anymore (unregistered), Sunday, 8 February 2015 23:31 (nine years ago) link
"Big Rock Candy Mountain" is my favorite Motorcycle Boy track - and to be honest, as much as I LOVE Shop Assistants, this is probably my favorite track that Alex sings on:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPy2YvMGH9A
― Spencer Chow, Thursday, 19 February 2015 21:06 (nine years ago) link
Just discovered that The Motorcycle Boy guitarist Michael Kerr tracked down the Scarlet master tapes and has given the album its first official release!
https://www.themotorcycleboy.co.uk
― early rejecter, Friday, 6 December 2019 17:47 (four years ago) link
Just got my copy, seems like there's some slightly different versions compared to the widely circulated bootleg. Biggest change is "Hey Mama" is 30s shorter.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 13 December 2019 00:54 (four years ago) link
is it any good? most (not all) of the Motorcycle Boy stuff I've got or heard is really not that much to be excited about
― Colonel Poo, Friday, 13 December 2019 01:47 (four years ago) link
It's nice if a bit slight, always great to hear Alex Taylor's voice.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 13 December 2019 19:45 (four years ago) link
Being reported that Alex Taylor has died.
https://louderthanwar.com/alex-taylor-the-shop-assistants-rip-c86-icon/
Some people on Facebook saying that they'd heard she'd died a few months ago but it hadn't been confirmed. RIP.
― Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 22:44 (three years ago) link
A few months ago? People are saying she died in 2005?!??!
― Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 22:48 (three years ago) link
Last year one of the guys from the Motorcycle Boy did some interviews about their reissue and he had no clue where she was and couldn't track her down.
― everything, Tuesday, 16 June 2020 23:20 (three years ago) link
It's all very strange.
― Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 23:26 (three years ago) link
:(
― Ivan Scampo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 23:26 (three years ago) link
Now on FB that the same guy from the Motorcycle Boy confirmed that after he gave those interviews he was contacted by Alex's husband and told that she passed away in 2005. I guess that in the 90s she just completely dropped out of her previous circles and that was before social media etc. so it just didn't come out at that point. Sad news. She had such a great voice.
― everything, Tuesday, 16 June 2020 23:53 (three years ago) link
Wow. RIP Alex.
― Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 00:02 (three years ago) link
Here's one of those interviews from last year, the last lines are very poignant.
http://www.pennyblackmusic.co.uk/MagSitePages/Article/9430/Motorcycle-Boy-Interview
― joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 08:33 (three years ago) link
I just heard about this reissue and am listening to it on streaming. It's really beautiful and of course sad as I'm just hearing about Alex Taylor passing as well.
― Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 2 September 2020 15:51 (three years ago) link