Nicolas Jaar: I was a Teenage Villalobos

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This is the thread to discuss the wunderkind producer Nicolas Jaar.

Typical teenage boy, loves Satie and Mulatu Astatke. At 14, he decides he loves techno too, even though the only thing he's heard at that point is Tiga's DJ Kicks. His father, the artist and filmmaker Alfredo Jaar, goes to a record store in Chile and says 'Give me the most forward-thinking electronic music album right now', comes home with Thé Au Harem D'Archimède. Dad gives him the Villalobos album ("the sexiest thing I'd ever heard") and Luomo's Vocalcity for Christmas that year. Nico starts making tracks, gets hooked up with Wolf + Lamb a couple of years later, and there you go.

Additional charming details in the Philip Sherburne interview.

Jaw-droppingly good Resident Advisor podcast available on soundcloud (tracklist).

His original tracks, many done before he turned 18, are also up on soundcloud.

My tracklist for the Essential Nico:
*Time For Us
*Mi Mujer
*No Regular Play - Owe Me (Nicolas Jaar remix)
*WOUH
*Love You Gotta Lose Again
*Hage Chahine (ft Will Epstein)
*John the Revelator
*Marquises
*El Bandido
*Kasper Bjorke - Heaven (Nicolas Jaar remix)
*DJ T - Gorilla Hug (Nicolas Jaar remix)
*Mini Calcutta
*Russian Dolls
*Your Waltz
*Nico's Feeling Good

Easily my favorite and most listened to music of the year.

The Amy Misto Family Knife (Plasmon), Saturday, 27 November 2010 17:22 (thirteen years ago) link

The few tracks I've heard (think one of them was El Bandido) were very very good.

What are you doing here? (dog latin), Saturday, 27 November 2010 17:32 (thirteen years ago) link

only heard him on thu for the first time - i was doing a radio show with braiden, who's been raving about him for a while - and was totally blown away. love the bluesy vocals, love the way every track ends up somewhere completely different to its start. would add "marks", "angles" and his remix of ellen allien's "flashy flashy" to the must-hear list.

he has a comp coming out in a week or two, right? called inès. can't wait m8

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Saturday, 27 November 2010 17:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Side one of Inès on soundcloud.

The Amy Misto Family Knife (Plasmon), Saturday, 27 November 2010 17:46 (thirteen years ago) link

did anyone get tix to the show in london in a couple of weeks?

just sayin, Saturday, 27 November 2010 17:59 (thirteen years ago) link

nooooo i'm gonna try to get in somehow though

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Saturday, 27 November 2010 18:01 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah im really hoping i can get a ticket on the door :-/

just sayin, Saturday, 27 November 2010 18:02 (thirteen years ago) link

i hadn't even heard of this dude four days ago! i haven't fallen so fast and hard for an artist in some time

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Saturday, 27 November 2010 18:02 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah im really late too! i blame ilx

just sayin, Saturday, 27 November 2010 18:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Had heard some of this guys stuff and wasn't really blown away but i'm listening to El Bandido now thanks to this thread, and...damn.

Number None, Saturday, 27 November 2010 18:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Ever since the RA podcast I've been waiting for one of the usual suspects to start the Nicolas Jaar Can Do No Wrong: Defend or Refute thread he no doubt deserves.

Finally decided to take matters into my own hands. Never started a thread before, been reading ILM since the very beginning.

The Amy Misto Family Knife (Plasmon), Saturday, 27 November 2010 18:26 (thirteen years ago) link

kinda hott too

http://www.playgroundmag.net/img/doc/13564/thumbs/480.jpg

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Saturday, 27 November 2010 18:47 (thirteen years ago) link

just heard that kasper bjørke remix - it's wonderful.

his remix of azari & iii's "into the night" is something else too

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Saturday, 27 November 2010 18:48 (thirteen years ago) link

so how old is he now

J0rdan S., Saturday, 27 November 2010 18:50 (thirteen years ago) link

20 i think?

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Saturday, 27 November 2010 18:55 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSp_2c96JtA

What are you doing here? (dog latin), Saturday, 27 November 2010 18:58 (thirteen years ago) link

^^ you can dl that edits ep free from the resident advisor website btw

just sayin, Saturday, 27 November 2010 19:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Love Nicolas Jaar. He's had an incredible few years. He wrote to me in 2007, sending a song called "Little Stone" (much more, um, folktronica? than his techno now, but still really excellent). He was 17 and calling himself "Nico" - and it was plausible to me he didn't realise there already a famous Nico. A couple years later, he's doing tracks like "John the Revelator" - and now he's a Mutek fixture, a Resident Advisor wunderkind, just making beautiful subtle new things. So happy for him.

sean gramophone, Saturday, 27 November 2010 19:20 (thirteen years ago) link

the edits ep is nice but i wouldn't really recommend it as your entry point to him, don't think it showcases what makes him special as much as other stuff

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Saturday, 27 November 2010 19:24 (thirteen years ago) link

which i guess is why it was given away free

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Saturday, 27 November 2010 19:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Sean: repost?

My favorite of his remixes is still "Owe Me", which reminds me of early Matthew Herbert (the remixes on Secondhand Sounds). The staticky clicks and pops and the echoey handclap and the wobbly keyboard and the filtered vocals -- it's all just so choice. Then the surf comes in.

The Amy Misto Family Knife (Plasmon), Saturday, 27 November 2010 19:36 (thirteen years ago) link

edits ep is all ive heard, it was nice but a bit. i mean i kinda like everything i've heard on w+l bc thats an aesthetic that appeals to me, but its a bit on the subtle end

plax (ico), Saturday, 27 November 2010 20:05 (thirteen years ago) link

His solo debut on Circus Company is breathtakingly good, in the same way that early dOP stuff was. my only complaint is that he samples "I Got A Woman" on one track, which i find a bit much. otherwise, i'd say it's a perfect record.

Honey, I squirted jizz all over the baby (the table is the table), Saturday, 27 November 2010 20:29 (thirteen years ago) link

lol at that grateful dead edit

the tune is space, Saturday, 27 November 2010 20:29 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm glad that it seems he's branching out from Wolf + Lamb, because tbh, i pretty much dislike 90% of the output from those producers and that label. it's all very boring, imho.

Honey, I squirted jizz all over the baby (the table is the table), Saturday, 27 November 2010 20:35 (thirteen years ago) link

Pretty sure he's on BeatsinSpace next week but can't find anything to back that up so perhaps I dreamt it.

groovypanda, Saturday, 27 November 2010 20:48 (thirteen years ago) link

that sounds plausible, bis is way into w+l

plax (ico), Saturday, 27 November 2010 20:49 (thirteen years ago) link

His father, the artist and filmmaker Alfredo Jaar,

Get the fuck out! This family is like a entity of genius.

EDB, Saturday, 27 November 2010 21:31 (thirteen years ago) link

I already regret the phrase "entity of genius." Nevertheless, the point still stands.

i'm glad that it seems he's branching out from Wolf + Lamb, because tbh, i pretty much dislike 90% of the output from those producers and that label. it's all very boring, imho.

― Honey, I squirted jizz all over the baby (the table is the table), Saturday, November 27, 2010 3:35 PM (55 minutes ago) Bookmark

I know most are going to disagree, but this is absolutely 100% OTM.

I saw him play live at Mutek last June. Very enjoyable, despite having an indoor set at 3PM playing to a mostly empty room. Expect it to be slow, too.

EDB, Saturday, 27 November 2010 21:35 (thirteen years ago) link

Here are "Little Stone" and "The Student" (mp3s).

sean gramophone, Saturday, 27 November 2010 21:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh um er let's try that again:

"Little Stone" (4.6mb)
"The Student" (4mb)

sean gramophone, Saturday, 27 November 2010 21:43 (thirteen years ago) link

I put "Angles" on a recent mixtape and got a good response...is there an album coming out soon?

skip, Saturday, 27 November 2010 23:31 (thirteen years ago) link

early next year - http://www.datatransmission.co.uk/viewnews/6069/

just sayin, Sunday, 28 November 2010 09:46 (thirteen years ago) link

+ like lex said there's also a label comp out in a week or two that he has a few songs on

just sayin, Sunday, 28 November 2010 09:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Tim Sweeney's just confirmed he is on the show tomorrow night so I obviously wasn't dreaming.

groovypanda, Monday, 29 November 2010 17:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Woah - WOUH is incredible, some kind of Studio/techno hybrid I didn't know I needed to hear.

seandalai, Monday, 29 November 2010 19:52 (thirteen years ago) link

find a lot of his stuff a little meh but el bandido and time for us are both pretty great.

rappa ternt sagna (jim in glasgow), Monday, 29 November 2010 20:56 (thirteen years ago) link

I dunno, it feels a bit soon for everyone to get carried away but it seems like a bandwagon has started rolling around this dude very quickly indeed. Then again, he's working withing a style where people are predisposed to throw around words like 'genius' very easily.

I like WUOH and Time For Us and what he does to Flashy Flashy, but I listened to the Marks & Angles EP and it just sounded dreary rather than hypnotic. I kinda feel like post-Villalobos there's almost no element or style that feels too weird to throw into this kind of framework, and it has a kind of dulling effect. Materials is pretty good though. We'll see.

Matt DC, Monday, 29 November 2010 23:19 (thirteen years ago) link

really like a lot of what i've heard, particularly el bandido, but the vocals on Marks & Angles EP are so flaccid and lazy sounding bleh

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Monday, 29 November 2010 23:22 (thirteen years ago) link

the new album sounds a lot like dOP, but less house-y and more jazzy.

hot weiners is the best and i want a hot weiner (the table is the table), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 01:58 (thirteen years ago) link

mostly agree with matt xp. time for us is the best thing he's done by a mile i think. i would really really like to hear him work with a good vocalist. think i read an interview where he said as much also. maybe he does on some of the forthcoming stuff? not that the slo-mo treated thing can't work too... like marks/angles isn't amazing overall, but it seems like he's starting to get the vocals to mesh with the production in interesting ways.

and will he further explore marksist politics in dance music?

straight old fashioned, virgin (another al3x), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 03:45 (thirteen years ago) link

I think he sounds like Matias Aguayo, even thought it was him at first. He has some better ideas than him from time to time but I'll agree with karl: he should abstain from vocal duties.

Moka, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 04:19 (thirteen years ago) link

Just listened to his Live At The Bunker podcast (WLP087) in the gym - more propulsive than the RA one; doing lots of the same layering and building tricks but not quite as show-offily (or maybe just in a less developed way, since it's so much older)

i'm assuming that it's tity boi, host of the mixtape (sic), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 06:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Album dropping in February:

http://www.residentadvisor.net/news.aspx?id=12795

groovypanda, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 10:26 (thirteen years ago) link

I am listening to it now (NB I have basically learned everything about him from this thread!), so far it's great and completely unconcerned by ~the dancefloor~ - there are a lot of moody pianos and a track that was like idk Barry Adamson crossed with microhouse or somesuch - I'm not really one for overstating the weather-appropriateness of music but 8am in a REALLY cold December is kind of where this is at I think

smoking on his cigarette / listening to a Carcass set (DJ Mencap), Friday, 3 December 2010 08:03 (thirteen years ago) link

his beats in space is now up

just sayin, Friday, 3 December 2010 08:54 (thirteen years ago) link

completely unconcerned by ~the dancefloor~

I dunno, some people might consider this not necessarily a plus in house music.

Matt DC, Friday, 3 December 2010 09:55 (thirteen years ago) link

oh clearly! NB a good chunk of it I would probly not describe as 'house music', also this is based on one listen on computer speakers lol

smoking on his cigarette / listening to a Carcass set (DJ Mencap), Friday, 3 December 2010 11:21 (thirteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

might have the chance to interview this fella soon. anyone got any questions for him?

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 17:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Listening to 2017-2019 again this AM. He has a particular talent for crafting coherent albums. Whole thing is very intentional and perfectly sequenced, with intros and outros that are as carefully constructed as the songs themselves.

Indexed, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 15:01 (four years ago) link

four months pass...

new Darkside album coming Spring 2021, i like this song:
https://darkside.bandcamp.com/album/liberty-bell

mizzell, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 16:56 (three years ago) link

NICE

corrs unplugged, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 16:58 (three years ago) link

"Cenizas" is really great, smoky late night club vibes, snuck into my top ten for the year

howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 16:58 (three years ago) link

Damn, what's the sample (or reference since they're presumably replaying it) on Liberty Bell? That two-note guitar part is driving me crazy.

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 17:49 (three years ago) link

Ahhh -- I was thinking of Tortoise 'Swung from the Gutters'. Maybe just a coincidence?

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 17:52 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

dude's giving away his records via a Google Drive link:
https://nicolasjaar.net/

octobeard, Wednesday, 3 February 2021 22:26 (three years ago) link

All non-commercial use is permitted, this includes any student project and mid and low budget productions (film, theatre, dance, etc). Music producers and composers may (creatively!) sample the music for commercial use. For commercial film and TV send email to inqu✧✧✧@nicolasj✧✧✧.n✧✧. Commercials or marketing content of any kind will not be accepted.

octobeard, Wednesday, 3 February 2021 22:28 (three years ago) link

Thanks, Octobeard!

Heavy Messages (jed_), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 23:47 (three years ago) link

omg Telas is so incredible, I only got around to it this last week

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 23:48 (three years ago) link

like, what else even sounds like this?

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 23:49 (three years ago) link

Yeah, he made 3 incredible records last year.

toby, Thursday, 4 February 2021 09:20 (three years ago) link

two months pass...

Second Darkside album droppin in July

https://ra.co/news/75117

groovypanda, Thursday, 8 April 2021 14:32 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRFQ5RGDNrw

groovypanda, Thursday, 8 April 2021 14:33 (three years ago) link

delivers

corrs unplugged, Tuesday, 13 April 2021 11:08 (three years ago) link

nice

Indexed, Tuesday, 13 April 2021 15:10 (three years ago) link

two months pass...

this is great
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=picGLpsZluQ

corrs unplugged, Wednesday, 23 June 2021 14:36 (three years ago) link

that's
Ali Sethi & Nicolas Jaar • Yakjehti Mein

it is very good

ten man poland chasing this means hamsik feasts (breastcrawl), Wednesday, 23 June 2021 15:23 (three years ago) link

it is very very good!!!

sean gramophone, Wednesday, 23 June 2021 15:25 (three years ago) link

four weeks pass...

You know what's very very very good? The new Darkside, which is coming out on Friday.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 21 July 2021 10:45 (three years ago) link

Man I totally forgot this one was imminent, got a lot of play out of the first one.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 15:22 (three years ago) link

Wow that tune with Ali Sethi is fantastic! Have not heard a collaboration like it before, only samples.

Indexed, Wednesday, 21 July 2021 16:17 (three years ago) link

Pom OTM. I've had a leaked version playing on repeat for the past week. A big leap forward from Psychic although I guess it has been eight years. There's also a noticeably good flow to this album. Top tier for sure.

doug watson, Wednesday, 21 July 2021 16:39 (three years ago) link

yeah this is great, delightful balearic vibes

ufo, Thursday, 22 July 2021 22:29 (three years ago) link

It's great, hot damn

octobeard, Saturday, 24 July 2021 07:38 (three years ago) link

This is fantastic. I'm absolutely baffled by the "meh" Pitchfork review that seems to think it isn't campy enough and also sounds too much like the first album?

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 27 July 2021 20:25 (three years ago) link

Yes, that criticism seems way off. Also found it off to call Psychic a "normie pursuit" and a "dorm-room staple" .

It's def a different kind of beast. Personally prefer Psychic, but that's because it's v different.

corrs unplugged, Wednesday, 28 July 2021 06:52 (three years ago) link

six months pass...

Not sure where else to put this, but a couple years ago I went to MONA down in Hobart, Tasmania, one of the more amazing museum experiences I've ever had. Inside we saw an incredible multi-room installation exhibit that was profoundly memorable and impactful called The Divine Comedy. It was actually the work of Alfredo Jaar. Had no idea until recently. Just an incredibly talented family, and I dare say Alredo's got a better flair for the dramatic than Nico! If Australia ever opens their borders back up, it's worth it to check MONA out even just for this exhibit.

https://mona.net.au/stuff-to-do/the-divine-comedy

octobeard, Friday, 4 February 2022 00:30 (two years ago) link

I’ve heard good things about that museum and was sad I couldn’t get to Hobart the one time (so far) that I visited Australia. But yeah Alfredo Jaar is pretty renowned artist and is in many collections around the world

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, 4 February 2022 17:34 (two years ago) link

eleven months pass...

Is it time for a Nico albums/eps poll?

death generator (lukas), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 22:00 (one year ago) link

(said while listening to A.A.L. 2012-2017, which is just a killer dance album and didn't even get much attention that I noticed)

death generator (lukas), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 22:01 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

Can I have a late pass . Loving the Pakistani vocalist Ali Sethi album Intiha from 2023 where he improvised ghazals over the electronic sounds of Nicolas Jaar.

curmudgeon, Sunday, 18 February 2024 19:20 (nine months ago) link

Is it time for a Nico albums/eps poll?

Like a ballot poll? I feel he's still sort of in the middle of his prime and he's still releasing tunes though

octobeard, Sunday, 18 February 2024 20:17 (nine months ago) link

what's good from the last few year? out of the loop.

default damager (lukas), Sunday, 18 February 2024 21:56 (nine months ago) link

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default damager (lukas), Sunday, 18 February 2024 21:56 (nine months ago) link

Jaar reworked sounds from his 2020 album Telas for 2023's Initha album with Ali Sethi's vocals. Not sure what else he has recorded lately

curmudgeon, Sunday, 18 February 2024 23:36 (nine months ago) link

The opening post in this thread is one of my favourites in all my many, many years of reading ILM. Love that potted bio

the article don, Monday, 19 February 2024 13:52 (nine months ago) link

A good amount of the live-off-floor-in-studio-with-live-drummer-now-as-official-third-member takes on this Darkside album from last year are among my fave Nico productions I've heard: https://darkside.bandcamp.com/album/live-at-spiral-house

The Roadman Bill Callahan II (Craig D.), Monday, 19 February 2024 15:14 (nine months ago) link

I guess it's 6 years old now, but he produced fka twig's 'Magdalena', which is a modern classic imo. I know lots of people were involved, but in an interview I heard she made it sound like the core team was her, Jaar, and the pianist who's on most tracks (Ethan P Flynn?).

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Monday, 19 February 2024 15:24 (nine months ago) link

I thought Arca had a big part producing that one too? Perhaps I'm confusing that with her earlier work

octobeard, Monday, 19 February 2024 19:09 (nine months ago) link

I think Arca just did some bits on the single (w/Future)

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Monday, 19 February 2024 19:25 (nine months ago) link

two months pass...

https://nicolasjaar.bandcamp.com/album/archivos-de-radio-piedras

2 hours of new music + 1.5 hour radio play. Sounded good on a first listen...

toby, Friday, 3 May 2024 18:03 (six months ago) link

oh hell yeah

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Friday, 3 May 2024 18:14 (six months ago) link

I just yelled out YES when I read that and freaked out my partner

default damager (lukas), Friday, 3 May 2024 18:55 (six months ago) link

That is an irresponsible amount of music

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Friday, 3 May 2024 19:04 (six months ago) link

one month passes...

This is pretty damn awesome, at least the musical bits. There's a really good 60 minute album of sick experimental cumbia Nico style here, but the whole thing flows pretty well for such a long play

octobeard, Monday, 24 June 2024 04:41 (four months ago) link

three months pass...

Loved the Radio Piedras release.

Darkside just released a single track: https://darkside.bandcamp.com/track/graucha-max

Which prompted me to check out Live at Spiral House (mentioned upthread) and holy shit that's awesome

willem, Tuesday, 22 October 2024 11:40 (four weeks ago) link

two weeks pass...

I'm finding the Piedras material more digestible when broken up like this (I'd already made a playlist of just these tracks, but I guess the ordering is better here, too, or maybe I'm just more receptive to it right now): https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/nicolas-jaar-piedras-1-2/

toby, Saturday, 9 November 2024 08:24 (one week ago) link

Ok just catching up but this Piedras release is fantastic.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 11 November 2024 14:19 (one week ago) link

I feel like... these are basically the album he should have made from the get-go?

Tim F, Tuesday, 19 November 2024 07:28 (two days ago) link


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