I need to give it another coupla listen to say precisely why, but I'll say this for now: it's not as good as I so very much want it to be, especially in the context of this year's other releases.
but what do YOU think???
ps I saw donnie darko today! is good!
― bob zemko, Saturday, 24 August 2002 15:24 (twenty-two years ago) link
― ron (ron), Saturday, 24 August 2002 15:32 (twenty-two years ago) link
― bob zemko, Saturday, 24 August 2002 15:33 (twenty-two years ago) link
heh, unsurprisingly i agree with bob. last year i'm not sure i would have rated xinli quite so high; this year, however, everytime i put the record on it's like having a colonic for my skull...cleans ya out, see.
ron, i'm working on a review of it - however slowly - for freakytrigger, but basically, it's two(?...i dont have my notes nearby) guys from osaka who expand the mbv/jesus&marychain template via more noize, big stoopid chords blown macy's day parade size with feedback, tone washes, drift, occasionally leaden digi-beats. it's good.
― jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 24 August 2002 15:42 (twenty-two years ago) link
― jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 24 August 2002 15:44 (twenty-two years ago) link
or is this my latent rockism glaring at xinli's bubblegum pop sprinkles and deeming it somehow unfinished? but then just cos it's ephemera doesn't mean that it can't satisfy; quite the opposite really
anyways i'll give it a listen before I bore myself a deeper hole than i'm already in
― bob zemko, Saturday, 24 August 2002 16:30 (twenty-two years ago) link
― jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 24 August 2002 17:07 (twenty-two years ago) link
― jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 24 August 2002 17:09 (twenty-two years ago) link
HOWEVER i do think we're on the right track as regards some sort of problematic engagement with rock tenets and especially with the equation with the kind of bands we've talked about so far, which is basically stickered on the CD cover when you buy it. Moreover because this created lineage was a huge factor in me being drawn to xinli in the first place.
― bob zemko, Saturday, 24 August 2002 17:58 (twenty-two years ago) link
― bob zemko, Saturday, 24 August 2002 18:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
writing about christian fennesz in wire, d. toop: "one of the answers to that question might be the jesus & mary chain similarly engaged in quite another era by the sisyphean task of burying brian wilsons piano in the legendary sandpit without totally obscuring it's radiance."
tempting to say the same thing about xinli, given the frothing mary chain comparisons; unlike fennesz's "atmospheric distress", xinli doesn't make me flash on rippling sunlight on moving water or wind blowing through leaves. i don't quite buy the mary chain example, either, because - unlike tom in his 21 singles review - i never saw the earliest phase of jamc as "gray". there's very little of that same exuberant, idiot energy in xinli, of two kids playing 40 minutes of feedback because they're not quite sure what a "real" band is supposed to do. if it owes anything to brian wilson at all it's the sound of the amber of his little symphonies cracked and spoiled and demanding remittance for being awoken like urishima taro from the turtle palace, instantly aged by their exposure to the air of our real world. the sun setting on the endless summer, etc etc, cliche cliche. or maybe having already set, with storm clouds hovering. storm clouds can be beautiful too, of course, as can storms themselves.
i just realized that "all you need is love was not true" sounds like sigur ros remixed by thomas koner and keiji haino.
― jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 24 August 2002 18:23 (twenty-two years ago) link
― jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 24 August 2002 18:24 (twenty-two years ago) link
― jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 24 August 2002 18:26 (twenty-two years ago) link
― jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 24 August 2002 19:03 (twenty-two years ago) link
― naked as sin, Saturday, 24 August 2002 20:24 (twenty-two years ago) link
― jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 24 August 2002 21:56 (twenty-two years ago) link
It's a better album than Loveless.
― Tom (Groke), Saturday, 24 August 2002 22:08 (twenty-two years ago) link
Or Andrew WK (same difference)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 24 August 2002 22:29 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Tom (Groke), Saturday, 24 August 2002 22:30 (twenty-two years ago) link
― jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 24 August 2002 22:39 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Tom (Groke), Saturday, 24 August 2002 22:46 (twenty-two years ago) link
― jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 24 August 2002 22:49 (twenty-two years ago) link
;-)
there.
― ron (ron), Sunday, 25 August 2002 00:51 (twenty-two years ago) link
― ron (ron), Sunday, 25 August 2002 00:54 (twenty-two years ago) link
― jess (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 25 August 2002 01:04 (twenty-two years ago) link
― paul b, Sunday, 25 August 2002 01:55 (twenty-two years ago) link
Between that and the WK comment, you're out to induce a heart attack in me, aren't you? I think I have this around on mp3, perhaps I shall give it an ear tonight (the backlog is just too large these days...).
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 August 2002 02:23 (twenty-two years ago) link
― paul b, Sunday, 25 August 2002 02:37 (twenty-two years ago) link
Tom, you say this like it's a bad thing...
― Clarke B. (emily), Sunday, 25 August 2002 02:56 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 August 2002 03:32 (twenty-two years ago) link
― adam, Sunday, 25 August 2002 22:01 (twenty-two years ago) link
i can't remember why i left this thread alone now. oh well.
i might've overstepped the mark re wilful joyful bubblegum abuse but i don't doubt their sincerity at all, much for the same reasons as jess mentions above; it's like a po-faced melodrama. i think their (and maybe japanese) faintly ridiculuous yet totally enlivening sincerity is what counts here no matter its form. now re asexuality I was mulling this over for a while and without going too far into cultural cliche what japanese music have you heard has been sexual? or rather: we're blundering here by judging them on our Western idea of sexuality and thus "posturing"; hence the lack of (grunt) satisfaction. japanese noize has NEVER been pigfuck noize: it's always been more balanced, preciously so almost in a kind of mindful zen. (think back to that Merzbow interview in the wire) it's a balance of sexuality too: a far more feminine intuitive, tidal enveloping as opposed to western maledom punctum penetration, what reynolds/press called "the oceanic imaginary". i think it was them anyway. even in boredoms bubbleburst there isn't maybe the austere contemplative zen but the mischievous shlocky referencing and awareness of recontextualisation is a far more feminine, open thing than the usual rock influence/crossreferencing. this got me wondering abt what jess saw as their britishness; i'd stick on englishness, if that even exists anymore. and tho i hadn't yet read that other thread I'm thinking there's something there in common, romantically maybe in the idea of the classical effete english gentleman but still in the blood somewhere. collective diffidence, restraint, rigorous awareness. look at the cover: pink blossom between bloom and shivel on white card, fey charcoal cursive moil on the back, creeping onto the spine.
― bob zemko (bob), Thursday, 12 September 2002 21:43 (twenty-two years ago) link
― bob zemko (bob), Thursday, 12 September 2002 21:45 (twenty-two years ago) link
can i just categorically say that i love, worship and adore this band. even if i do know precisely f-ck all about them. got 'tomorrow never comes' online after seeing a few intriguing reviews. currently hunting down any and all info i can find about them, just ordered their new EP and their "all you need is love was not true" single on opalmusic [am i gonna get an email a week from now telling me that's out of stock?]
to the person who said "It's a better album than Loveless": YES.
to me, it sounds like a couple of people doing surreptitious and covert things in a cave off the coast of japan somewhere. at 2am. this is a gooooood thing. d'ya think there's any chance that they'll come to the uk anytime soon? would like to see what they do live/interview them.
Gen
― gen w, Wednesday, 2 October 2002 13:24 (twenty-two years ago) link
― bob zemko (bob), Wednesday, 2 October 2002 17:07 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 8 October 2002 10:10 (twenty-two years ago) link
― bob snoom, Tuesday, 8 October 2002 16:27 (twenty-two years ago) link
― bob zemko (bob), Tuesday, 8 October 2002 17:08 (twenty-two years ago) link
― gygax!, Tuesday, 8 October 2002 17:36 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Ess Kay (esskay), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 18:03 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Alex in Rotherham (Alex in Doncaster), Wednesday, 21 May 2003 10:44 (twenty-one years ago) link
'See?' J.D. opened his mouth, yawned at it wide, exposing the naked line of his gums. Barring his incisors, all Jack's teeth were gone. His multiple extractions had left their mark in ruddy puckers, a black fraying of stitches - Nathan hoped from hospital intervention - and the unpleasant dark of what might be either clots, or unhealed sockets, Nathan didn't wish to guess. His own mouth began to wash with anxious saliva.
'Christ, Jack, what were you thinking?'
'That I no longer wished to think. Besides which, it wasn't bad, didn't even especially go wrong. I had an entirely satisfactory dip into oblivion and then I was sent on my way. The sending on the way, that was the problem. Old Oscar was a little to anxious to see me go. Which unfortunately left me to provide one of the West End's more lurid pavement spectacles...'
― Cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 19 July 2003 21:11 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Be sure to Loop! Loop, Loop, Loop. (ex machina), Thursday, 27 May 2004 12:41 (twenty years ago) link
― EZ Snappin (afka Erik the Mainer) (EZSnappin), Thursday, 16 February 2006 14:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― all the roads was wet..., Thursday, 16 February 2006 18:23 (nineteen years ago) link
album info at webpage reads:01 All You Need Is Love Was Not True02 Virus Dance03 Murder License04 I Drew A Picture Of My Lungs05 I Am A New Christ06 Soprano Meditation07 A Golden Journey08 Tokyo Moon09 Roppongi Woman / Amallylis10 Zouave`s Blue11 New Christ [Usagi-tobi MIX]12 In A Silent Doll...but not all of those songs are available for download, yet they are all listed at the "podcast trackback" as released
discography at webpage reads:01 All You Need Is Love Was Not True02 Murder License 03 I Am A New Christ 04 Soprano Meditation 05 A Golden Journey 06 Tokyo Moon 07 Amallylis 08 Zouave's Blue 09 New Christ [Usagi-tobi MIX] 10 In A Silent Doll...and those are still available for download
there are two other songs at that page, namely namelesssong and b-session, are those the two missing ones?
yet i am wondering if i should take this serious at all, but, hey, i'm curious.
― b0ring, Monday, 27 February 2006 11:56 (eighteen years ago) link
As a new companionXINLISUPREME to participate in Virgin Babylon Records has been decided.
Music was announced on the official site for the first time in five years last year in 2010"Seaside Voice Guitar"That intense sound, such as a snowstorm, or a splash of light particles and waves.And it looks beautiful in the world behind it is overwhelming.Since the spring of 2011, the most sound in the hearts of their own,Music was sounded in the world you want.
(Start of high-quality version free download wav, mp3 at today) "Seaside Voice Guitar"Let's wait to look forward to receiving both a new sound while listening to XINLISUPREME.
world's end girlfriend (Virgin Babylon Records)
― navihchkan (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:21 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VxirgFBUuc
http://makebelievemelodies.com/?p=11544
― etc, Friday, 17 July 2015 09:40 (nine years ago) link
nice to see these lads back
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Monday, 7 September 2015 23:50 (nine years ago) link