Lana Del Rey

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ultraviolence is my favourite sprawling comedown record since Mazzy Star’s classic albums. Honeymoon is a curious follow up but it seems she found a good balance on the last one between her break out pop and later style

Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 01:26 (five years ago) link

Excited for this

Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 01:26 (five years ago) link

Sacrilegious, I suppose, but "Venice Bitch" is too long. I prefer her hemmed in by Rick Nowels' structures.

The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 01:42 (five years ago) link

If Sam Smith had to write Tom Petty a check for lifting I Won't Back Down, Chris Isaak is probably waiting by his mailbox for his after hearing Mariners Apartment Complex.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 03:00 (five years ago) link

You can manually fade Venice Bitch out around 3:20 tbh. I wonder if there'll be a radio edit

rip van wanko, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 03:07 (five years ago) link

Listening to Venice Bitch now. I like this A LOT more than Mariners Apartment Complex.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 03:19 (five years ago) link

Holding out for January to hear these songs but all the love is reassuring. She’s one of the only artists that’s new that I buy the records physically and make a day of it

Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 04:46 (five years ago) link

can't believe some of you don't just wanna drive around for 10 minutes get lost in some electric guitar

ufo, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 06:25 (five years ago) link

She’s so great. She reminds me of Roxy Music a lot and Venice Bitch is her Mother Of Pearl

― kornrulez6969, Tuesday, September 18, 2018 7:53 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ooo roxy is a great connection i hadn't thought of, say more!

petey v, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 13:25 (five years ago) link

People have really come around to her haven't they? Or maybe these days the haytaz just stay away from the thread. Either way i'm happy about it.

piscesx, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 13:31 (five years ago) link

"wow, lana del rey is really out here releasing red house painters songs in 2018"

was that supposed to be a dig? look, if kozelek isn't going to do these things now someone should

I love this btw, one of my favorite songs by her ever.

akm, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 13:33 (five years ago) link

"People have really come around to her haven't they?"

she's moved beyond the initial backlash and I feel like she's taken more control of her image from the record company. who maybe did or didn't do her any favors with the hype on the first album.

akm, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 13:34 (five years ago) link

re: radio edit; does the radio even play music like this now? I dunno. I like the solo btw.

akm, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 13:37 (five years ago) link

Honeymoon is the only spotty one but lust for life totally was one of her best records, it’s clear now that honeymoon was transitional from Ultra to lust. She seems in a groove now

Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 13:37 (five years ago) link

Maybe almost time to start a new thread for the record?

Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 13:42 (five years ago) link

I hear a bit of Mazzy Star's "Fade into You" in the vocal melody.

The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 13:46 (five years ago) link

i couldn't stand lust for life for some reason but these two tracks are v encouraging

princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 13:49 (five years ago) link

Honeymoon is her only bleh album to date.

The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 13:52 (five years ago) link

i thought it was a perfectly fine if slightly deflated follow-up to ultraviolence which is her masterpiece

princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 13:55 (five years ago) link

been a while since i listened to it though

princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 13:55 (five years ago) link

Honeymoon was ok but a little bloated and "Love" was great but i didn't care much for the rest of Lust for Life which had some real duds like "Coachella"

i read the RHP comparison as a compliment

ufo, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 13:57 (five years ago) link

I could see a similarity to ferry in Lana’s total embodiment of character - like I never felt I would really know the true ferry as much as he was well spoken in interviews and kind. Lana seems really nice in interviews but it’s pretty hard to always draw the line between truth and fiction when it comes to her character in a lot of her songs. Certainly UV is a sincere record with recounting of traumatic experiences tho and I can’t imagine ferry writing a song as direct as Woodstock in my mind

Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 13:59 (five years ago) link

God she's brilliant. New songs are both so, so good.

I'm a big Honeymoon apologist. Music to Watch Boys To, Honeymoon, High by the Beach, Freak, Salvatore, and the Blackest Day are all fire.

triggercut, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 13:59 (five years ago) link

I love Honeymoon, I think it's far better than Lust for Life (most of it anyway) and it's a toss up to me whether I likeit or Ultra more.

akm, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 14:00 (five years ago) link

Terence is a lovely track

Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 14:01 (five years ago) link

Was really cool she put out a phone number for honeymoon. The ambient hold music was so nice

Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 14:02 (five years ago) link

Something I really love about Lana is her reverence for the deeply untrendy (this decade) rock canon, and how freely she references it and incorporates its sounds into her songs. It's been a consistent thread running through her music since the beginning; nice to see her continuing it with references to tunes by Elton John and Tommy James & The Shondells on these new tracks.

triggercut, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 14:08 (five years ago) link

Otm

Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 14:09 (five years ago) link

Lust and the debut are the ones I like but don't love; Ultraviolence is a masterpiece and Honeymoon is damn close.

grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 14:36 (five years ago) link

Honeymoon and LfL are both greatly improved with a little pruning.

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 14:49 (five years ago) link

i like both these new songs! doesn't seem like she'll ever do anything in the vein of ultraviolence again but she's putting out quality stuff.

one thing about lana is that she's just literally better at music than she was when the debut came out. singing and songwriting have improved. she's found the sounds and production that work for her songs. i was really not a fan of the debut and she's won me over with everything since.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 15:11 (five years ago) link

i still really like the debut but the production is a little hamfisted and dated, and was even then. all the hip hop samples and background crowd noises etc.

akm, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 16:03 (five years ago) link

anyway I'm going to burn out on these two songs before long, hope she releases more. can't wait until january.

akm, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 16:31 (five years ago) link

the debut feels like ages ago though. nearly 7 years?

flappy bird, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 16:45 (five years ago) link

has ILM been so gaga for a single song since?

rip van wanko, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 17:12 (five years ago) link

... video games!

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 17:18 (five years ago) link

lots of people hated that song though

akm, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 17:20 (five years ago) link

video games is what i was referring to

rip van wanko, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 17:23 (five years ago) link

Fucking love Venice bitch. Video is nice, song is way more lo-fi, yeah it sorta reminds me of my favourite Lana song Brooklyn baby, but it’s a degraded fidelity version of that sound. Probably will be her masterpiece

Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 18:49 (five years ago) link

Video games is a good song

Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 18:49 (five years ago) link

yes it is

akm, Thursday, 20 September 2018 03:48 (five years ago) link

video games is great but still strangely singular in her catalogue. she's mined similar vibes but never quite that same sound

listening to her early stuff again her singing really has improved so much

ufo, Thursday, 20 September 2018 04:09 (five years ago) link

Agree UFO

Did she reference video games on lust for life? Lyrically

Also anyone seen her live

Ross, Thursday, 20 September 2018 05:25 (five years ago) link

realising that Venice Bitch really reminds me of the show i saw on Sufjan's Carrie & Lowell tour - gorgeous folk songs stretched out with extended synth noodling

ufo, Thursday, 20 September 2018 05:36 (five years ago) link

Venice is a great track. Good comparison ufo

Ross, Thursday, 20 September 2018 15:36 (five years ago) link

I fucked my way to the top of this thread

The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 September 2018 15:40 (five years ago) link

Good mourning :)

Ross, Thursday, 20 September 2018 15:45 (five years ago) link

"Venice Bitch" is not a second too long. It's a wonderful song ballad flowing gracefully that takes its time. There is indeed an early Mark Kozelek vibe in there.

Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Thursday, 20 September 2018 21:42 (five years ago) link

Mariner's Apartment Complex reminds me of a specific song by another female alt. rock/pop singer/pianist and it's driving me crazy trying to think who it is.

FRE SHA VAC ADO (jed_), Friday, 21 September 2018 00:29 (five years ago) link

it's something with much more vocal range than lana uses.

FRE SHA VAC ADO (jed_), Friday, 21 September 2018 00:42 (five years ago) link


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