agree or disagree?
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 7 September 2002 16:23 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Andrew L (Andrew L), Saturday, 7 September 2002 17:44 (twenty-one years ago) link
anyway, have you heard it or not? opinions is what i want.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 7 September 2002 19:34 (twenty-one years ago) link
― brg30 (brg30), Saturday, 7 September 2002 20:59 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Phil (phil), Saturday, 7 September 2002 21:34 (twenty-one years ago) link
as an aside, the double leopards just played on my radio show and they were fucking brilliant, but at one point i looked at my cohost and said "august 1974" - it was eerily like that. double leopards RULE.
― your null fame, Sunday, 8 September 2002 04:38 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 8 September 2002 08:58 (twenty-one years ago) link
― your null fame (yournullfame), Monday, 9 September 2002 23:50 (twenty-one years ago) link
I was a bit rude to andrew so oops...
anyway, i picked july 15, 1972 in another CDR deal and oh hot mama what a nice one. some beautiful drones and kosugi goes a bit bonkers in that last track. I love 'em.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 4 July 2003 09:42 (twenty years ago) link
P-Vine's reissue last year of Kosugi's Catch Wave is a keeper as well as the East Bionic Sinfonia LP...
― Brian Turner (btwfmu), Saturday, 5 July 2003 03:21 (twenty years ago) link
Sometimes your not sure what you just heard was there or not.
This is definitely true for July 15, 1972 on headphones.
I want to know more about the documentary film!?
― guess papers (eman), Monday, 22 May 2006 01:29 (seventeen years ago) link
seriously they were so completely sui generis ... fucking amazing stuff. I kinda feel like they are best listened to at dawn.
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Monday, 22 May 2006 01:34 (seventeen years ago) link
― GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Monday, 22 May 2006 01:38 (seventeen years ago) link
august 1974 is just one of those records. can't think of too many things better.
I edited the sides back together for both discs -- easy to do, they join up seamlessly and it makes a huge difference in listening, you get much further out without those pauses
kosugi's catch wave basically sounds as if it was recorded the same night as august 1974, as if he'd just kept going by himself after everyone else went home. the same sounds and processing without the other instruments -- doesn't get quite as far out, but definitely worth getting.
kosugi's violin improvisations on lovely is very different, solo violin melodies & lines, but completely free of any standard intonation or tonal center whatsoever. deeply bent & very disciplined, I've never heard anyone else play violin like this -- it's too much for me to listen straight through, but in doses this is crucial listening
has anyone heard the kosugi live 1980 CD that's currently making the rounds?
― milton parker (Jon L), Monday, 22 May 2006 02:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― Chris Bee (Cee Bee), Friday, 26 May 2006 21:35 (seventeen years ago) link
I got to hear "August 1974" eventually, great stuff, love it love it love it... and I'm, errrrrrrrrrr, accessing "July 15, 1972" as I type this. One thing tho, bits of "August 74" are uncannily like "In the Shadow of the Sun" by Throbbing Gristle - one sequence in particular, with sort of silly vocal noises in the background - I wonder if Gen+Co were familiar with this album? Kosugi was a Fluxus guy after all?
― Tom D., Friday, 1 June 2007 09:14 (sixteen years ago) link
"this kind of instruments can have many kinds of sounds, so i hate any violin, viola, cello and bass players use any effect except for reverb. from this reason, i really hate fuckin' Kosugi's any works!!!!"
Makoto Kawabata on Takahisa Kosugi
― s. morris, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 20:49 (sixteen years ago) link
nuts! where did you get that quote?
― rizzx, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 22:09 (sixteen years ago) link
Makoto's Listening Room on the AMT website. It's from his write-up on Dumitrescu's Medium III.
― s. morris, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 22:14 (sixteen years ago) link
I have been trying (not very hard) to get this, so if anyone knows where to "access" it, lay it on me. Please and thank you.
― PJ Miller, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 16:48 (sixteen years ago) link
Kawabata needs to hear this one: http://www.discogs.com/release/686150
― ian, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 17:28 (sixteen years ago) link
Heh I feel bad abt my rather grumpy response to Julio all those years back - at the time it really was pretty difficult trying to get hold of any TMT recs here in the UK
but PJ Miller you are in luck, 'cos these days the P-Vine two disc reish of August 19874 is much easier to 'source' - Volcanic Tongue currently have it in stock for £20
― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 19:29 (sixteen years ago) link
August 1974, even
― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 19:30 (sixteen years ago) link
There's an auction for the P-Vine reissue on eBay right now. I rarely see it listed beyond overpriced Buy It Nows.
Is Violin Solo worth tracking down? Julian Cope hates it but he hates most of what I love. Kosugi's Violin Improvisations 1989 is really great but would fall in the "any works" that Kawabata writes off above.
― s. morris, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 19:37 (sixteen years ago) link
Be nice if someone could be bothered to reissue this stuff outside of Japan at some point.
― Alex in SF, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 19:38 (sixteen years ago) link
Violin Solo is pretty enjoyable. I'm listening to it now because of this thread. I wouldn't have shelled out cash for it, though. I found it way underpriced at Footlight Records (RIP).
I'll trade you a CDr for those force spikes ;)
xp
― ian, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 19:38 (sixteen years ago) link
3.0 out of 5 stars Not anything like "Catch Wave",or TMT...., October 19, 2007 By T. Hardin If you purchase this expecting anything remotely like Kosugi's "Catch Wave",or anything like Taj Mahal Travellers for that matter,you will be sadly disappointed.This is indeed a violin solo,with little(if any) discernable sound processing/effects.I feel like im being generous with the 3 star rating,as this kinda blows - hoping i'll "get it" with repeat listens,but right now I would recommend this to completists ONLY.Hunt down "Catch Wave" instead.That is his masterpiece!
^^ amazon review.
― ian, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 19:39 (sixteen years ago) link
Dunno why the P Vine reish should be going for crazy prices cos afaik its still in print - as I say, Volcanic Tongue pretty much always have it in stock (along w/ Violin Solo and a complete, semi-legit OZ DAYS)
― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 20:11 (sixteen years ago) link
I have August 1974 in stock for $34 new, great record:
http://www.erstwhilerecords.com/distro.html
― jon abbey, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 23:29 (sixteen years ago) link
^^^wow that's a steal.
― Alex in SF, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 23:39 (sixteen years ago) link
http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2011/11/the-taj-mahal-travellers-tour-film.html
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Friday, 18 November 2011 15:36 (twelve years ago) link
while it lasts:ebay item # 150680914198takehisa kosugi's "catch wave" cd new sealed @ £4.99 - today - more than 10 available.
― iglu ferrignu, Friday, 18 November 2011 15:57 (twelve years ago) link
I like Catch Wave about 10x more than any TMT albums... and I like those albums A LOT!
― liam fennell, Friday, 18 November 2011 17:19 (twelve years ago) link
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Friday, November 18, 2011 10:36 AM
kewl
― am0n, Monday, 11 June 2012 21:12 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.scamorama.com/images/shades-smiley.gif
― am0n, Monday, 11 June 2012 21:25 (eleven years ago) link
august 1974 > "catch wave" >>>> july 1972 >>>>>>>> july 1971
not really drone but i would also recommend "improvisation sep. 1975" which has kosugi playing with toshi ichiyanagi and michael ranta ... more of a free improv noise sort of thing along the lines of musica elettronica viva, nurse with wound, the spaciest end of can, etc but w/ that magical kosugi vibe running throughout
― the late great, Monday, 11 June 2012 21:53 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0201q89
― sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Monday, 9 June 2014 22:04 (nine years ago) link
Thanks, will try later.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 11 June 2014 10:57 (nine years ago) link
RIP Takehisa Kosugi.
― grawlix (unperson), Friday, 12 October 2018 16:53 (five years ago) link
:-(
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 12 October 2018 18:14 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqdPZbylvPU
― sleeve, Friday, 12 October 2018 18:23 (five years ago) link
RIP. Glad to see that link I posted above is still live - it was a terrific performance.
― Ward Fowler, Friday, 12 October 2018 18:28 (five years ago) link
Oh no, RIP.
― Zach Same (Tom D.), Friday, 12 October 2018 18:46 (five years ago) link
Tomomi Adachi posted a handful of wonderful Kosugi appearances on late 80's pop music records I'd never heard before
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMHeIWU2GMA&feature=youtu.be&t=732&fbclid=IwAR1oYBCPIMBSGHL7l4ScOnSK4F9rMLqy0rAYgdgIOVKKN6CdIam-IZ0d4i0
Morio Agata (あがた森魚) - El jaguar del bandoneon (full album), solo kicks in around 12:00 - if you like Miharu Koshi circa Boy Soprano
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JhUs6OQIvY
Ayuo with Takehisa Kosugi - Birds of Paradise
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KADnnuEKCoQ
Riri Shimada + Takehisa Kosugi - Gnossiennes No. 1 - No. 5, one of the only Satie recordings Satie would have loved
― Milton Parker, Friday, 12 October 2018 22:42 (five years ago) link
my morning's spree playlist was
Group Ongaku 1960-61 (astounding. co-founder Yasunao Tone pointed out the importance of Shukou Mizuno doing the crazier feedback bursts on these sessions)Taj Mahal Travellers - Sound Picnic At Kuwanichika - 1977 bootleg, room recording with not much low end is the only reason this doesn't compete with August 1974; it's the same thing, but three years deeperKosugi - Catch Wave '97 - high fidelity room recording also sacrifices low end but the last half audibly packs in decades
Sound Picnic At Kuwanichika is on youtube as live Tokyo 1977
― Milton Parker, Friday, 12 October 2018 22:43 (five years ago) link
Sad news, but listening to July 5, 1972 right now which softens the blow somewhat into a pillow of drone
― GG Allin: The Musical (Matt #2), Friday, 12 October 2018 23:11 (five years ago) link
Well, the nearest thread I could find to post this.
rest in peace toshi ichiyanagi(john cage, buddha, ichiyanagi, david tudor) pic.twitter.com/i1DJ0EM2vm— callahan (@IRCAM_official) October 8, 2022
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 8 October 2022 17:03 (one year ago) link
RIP
― Fronted by a bearded Phil Collins (Tom D.), Saturday, 8 October 2022 18:18 (one year ago) link