http://i.imgur.com/UZ6rG.jpg
― markers, Thursday, 20 October 2011 07:30 (twelve years ago) link
i'm probably not going to sit on this album for very long in all honesty, so best jump in with a vote while it's all still fresh in my mind. heart says "dragon" or "little dog".
― charlie h, Thursday, 20 October 2011 07:36 (twelve years ago) link
weird, right now "little dog" is honestly the only one i know i wouldn't vote for
― ⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 20 October 2011 07:43 (twelve years ago) link
I'm still listening to the ILX pre-covers! Only afterwards will I listen to the real album....
― Everything else is secondary (Lee626), Thursday, 20 October 2011 08:19 (twelve years ago) link
Oh god yeah!
"I AM THE DOG!! I AM THE DOG!!"
and that loop, can't lose it!
― Mark G, Thursday, 20 October 2011 08:20 (twelve years ago) link
Junior Dad
― wrestlingisreal420 (crüt), Thursday, 20 October 2011 18:41 (twelve years ago) link
why do i cheat cheat cheat cheat cheat on me??
― sonderangerbot, Thursday, 20 October 2011 18:50 (twelve years ago) link
i wish this poll didn't close before the release date, i want to listen to it on my stereo
― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 20 October 2011 19:02 (twelve years ago) link
yeah srsly wtf w/ this poll only being open for a week, markers
― ⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 20 October 2011 19:03 (twelve years ago) link
markers is going to do a weekly poll of this record, right?
― tylerw, Thursday, 20 October 2011 19:24 (twelve years ago) link
^^this guy gets it
― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 20 October 2011 19:27 (twelve years ago) link
^^
― markers, Thursday, 20 October 2011 21:38 (twelve years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Monday, 31 October 2011 00:01 (twelve years ago) link
Junior Dad the obvious choice at this point
― Mayne of Fules (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 31 October 2011 00:14 (twelve years ago) link
out tomorrow!
― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 31 October 2011 16:41 (twelve years ago) link
It's got some catching up to do!
― Mark G, Monday, 31 October 2011 16:43 (twelve years ago) link
haven't listened to this album yet. that doesn't disqualify me from voting here does it?
― tylerw, Monday, 31 October 2011 16:45 (twelve years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 00:01 (twelve years ago) link
voted the view, but if anything this poll will hopefully persuade people to at least skip to the end before giving up on the whole thing
― ⚓ (gr8080), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 04:00 (twelve years ago) link
just noticed the legend for review ratings in the latest game informer ;)
― goole, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 04:57 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, imho, Disc 2 >>>>> Disc 1, although the last couple tracks on Disc 1 are pretty good too
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 05:10 (twelve years ago) link
i voted on this early, and i still think "junior dad" is amazing, but i think i'd vote "pumping blood" or "frustration" now
― mutant slow drum (BradNelson), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 05:26 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i might switch to mistress dread now, but junior dad
― goole, Tuesday, November 8, 2011 10:57 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
i lobbied for it to be for 11/10 but got overruled!
― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 16:50 (twelve years ago) link
lol
― goole, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 17:00 (twelve years ago) link
didn't actually notice it myself the first time, tipped by a comment here:
http://youtu.be/rheezx7gzwA
― goole, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 17:02 (twelve years ago) link
danggg -- sales figures are IN
MEGADETH – TH1RT3ENLast week: 41,977 (debut)
REED*LOU & METALLICA – LULULast week: 13,320 (debut)
― tylerw, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 17:42 (twelve years ago) link
rip
― markers, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 17:46 (twelve years ago) link
Lou's never been about sales though. Excited to hear all 13,320 Lulu inspired bands in the upcoming months.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 17:49 (twelve years ago) link
but . . . metallica!!
― markers, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 17:50 (twelve years ago) link
metalliwho?
― tylerw, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 17:51 (twelve years ago) link
Can't put a butterfly in a jar, haters
― Eagles ft. Michael Vick (Eazy), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 17:54 (twelve years ago) link
tbh in the current climate i'm kind of amazed that an album this fucked up (a double CD for that matter) sold that much!
― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 18:04 (twelve years ago) link
wikipedia:
Death Magnetic debuted at number one on the Billboard 200, selling 490,000 copies in just three days of availability.
― markers, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 18:11 (twelve years ago) link
i guess i just figured that more metallica fans would run out and buy it just because their band was involved, but tbh i haven't even bought a copy so who the hell knows
― markers, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 18:13 (twelve years ago) link
Wonder how many of those 13,320 are deluxe.
― Eagles ft. Michael Vick (Eazy), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 18:14 (twelve years ago) link
(Also wonder how many hundreds of thousands of copies they pressed.)
― Eagles ft. Michael Vick (Eazy), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 18:15 (twelve years ago) link
if you believe wikipedia, st. anger is double platinum, which is heartening
― markers, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 18:16 (twelve years ago) link
(double platinum in the us)
Pretty sure the ILX pre-covers album moved more copies than Lulu.
― Sean Carruthers, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 18:31 (twelve years ago) link
haha kinda doubt that
― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 18:36 (twelve years ago) link
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/664326_10151313908245953_1994532525_o.jpg
― tylerw, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 17:08 (eleven years ago) link
the last thing we can believe in- LULU
― captain angeroo (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 17:19 (eleven years ago) link
i will donate $5 million to a charity of mitt romney's choice if he sings "junior dad" during his concession speech.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 17:33 (eleven years ago) link
http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/tasteofcountry.com/files/2012/08/Mitt-Romney1.jpg
EVERYBODY SING!
Would you pull me up Would you drop the mental bullet Would you pull me by the arm up Would you still kiss my lips Hiccup, the dream is over Get the coffee, turn the lights on Say hello to junior dad The greatest disappointment Age withered him and changed him Into junior dad Psychic savagery
― captain angeroo (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 17:35 (eleven years ago) link
it really is perfect for mitt. how did lou know that it would be so perfect?
― tylerw, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 17:38 (eleven years ago) link
sequel
― markers, Monday, 8 April 2013 22:32 (ten years ago) link
we need one
― markers, Monday, 8 April 2013 22:33 (ten years ago) link
LULU2
feat U2
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 8 April 2013 22:36 (ten years ago) link
Lulu II: Kirk Hammett and the Chamber of Secrets
― tylerw, Monday, 8 April 2013 22:40 (ten years ago) link
pumping blood should have gotten votes
― ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 8 April 2013 22:40 (ten years ago) link
you're just a small town girl who's gonna give lulu a whirl
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 28 January 2021 17:49 (three years ago) link
there is no time for guiltor second guessing
― tylerw, Thursday, 28 January 2021 17:54 (three years ago) link
and here's that VU > LULU set from 2012 chris mentioned: https://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/post/641027816435089408/lou-reed-heineken-music-hall-amsterdamit's good!
― tylerw, Thursday, 28 January 2021 17:57 (three years ago) link
Yes! It is very good, the other funny thing on it is a regular human being drummer (a really good one at that) attempting to play Lars's parts on Mistress Dread
― chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 28 January 2021 18:16 (three years ago) link
haha, yeah — it's pretty funny, Lou's drummer really has to handle a lot of different modes, from moe tucker's ultra-minimal "waiting for the man" thing to "mistress dread" ...
― tylerw, Thursday, 28 January 2021 18:48 (three years ago) link
FYI Lulu headz — Metallica is selling the deluxe version for a song over here: https://www.metallica.com/store/clearance/?start=0&sz=12
― tylerw, Thursday, 28 January 2021 18:56 (three years ago) link
Great revive
― Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 29 January 2021 01:06 (three years ago) link
If only you could stream this! (I loaned this record to someone ages ago and never got it back.)
Well, surely Junior Dad is up on YouTube
― Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 29 January 2021 01:10 (three years ago) link
it's on streaming now!
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 29 January 2021 01:11 (three years ago) link
It is? I just checked Apple Music and didn’t see it
― Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 29 January 2021 01:12 (three years ago) link
ah it's on Spotify they probably shelled out big bucks for the exclusive haha
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 29 January 2021 01:13 (three years ago) link
Aha
I just stumbled on this
https://heinaliandmattfinney.bandcamp.com/track/junior-dad
― Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 29 January 2021 01:14 (three years ago) link
Listened to the actual “Junior Dad” for the first time in a while and it reminded me (somewhat) of this underheralded LP, a Jane’s Addiction side project
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=961Cv9KsJUE
― Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 29 January 2021 01:40 (three years ago) link
FYI Lulu headz — Metallica is selling the deluxe version for a song over here: https://www.metallica.com/store/clearance/?start=0&sz=12― tylerw, Thursday, January 28, 2021 6:56 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
― tylerw, Thursday, January 28, 2021 6:56 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
Unfortunately, $51 shipping to the UK
― Mark G, Friday, 29 January 2021 08:05 (three years ago) link
Weird that Lulu isn't on Apple Music now becuz it certainly was at one point, fortunately I have it on at least two other formats, phew.
Forever sad that Lou & Metallica never did a real live show of this, only this German tv show deal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FF2os5l2Nog
Unless tyler knows of an actual show and he's holding out on us!
― chr1sb3singer, Friday, 29 January 2021 15:01 (three years ago) link
i think that is it in terms of live Lulu w/ Metallica ... should we be hoping for a lavish 10th anniversary boxed set this year. (I jest, but I do think that there are probably early recordings of these songs w/o metallica ... he was playing some of them live in the years prior.)
― tylerw, Friday, 29 January 2021 15:27 (three years ago) link
I believe they did a spot on 'Later', certainly they did a version of "White Light White Heat"
― Mark G, Friday, 29 January 2021 18:22 (three years ago) link
I'm not a big fan of either Metallica or Lou Reed, but I am listening to this for the first time in a couple of years and man do I love this album.
I still remember my first listen of this when it was released or leaked. I was listening totally ready to make fun of it (and remember laughing at James's singing of "home town girl" and Lou's "C'mon James!"). I think it was sometime during "Mistress Dread" that I started thinking that this isn't bad actually. By the second half of the album I was totally into it.
― silverfish, Friday, 29 January 2021 19:40 (three years ago) link
I'm skipping Iced Honey though, that song just doesn't work
― silverfish, Friday, 29 January 2021 19:44 (three years ago) link
I think it was sometime during "Mistress Dread" that I started thinking that this isn't bad actually. By the second half of the album I was totally into it.
― silverfish, Friday, January 29, 2021 12:40 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
my first listen was the same experience
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 29 January 2021 19:46 (three years ago) link
i have sung "iced honey" at karaoke it's great
I could see it being fun at karaoke
― silverfish, Friday, 29 January 2021 19:49 (three years ago) link
The biggest mistake they made in marketing this was not elucidating the narrative framework and characters. Not that it would have made the record a big seller, but it would have been a defence against people saying "this is just Lou's sex fantasy", etc. etc.
As it is, they threw out this long, wordy album and let the world make sense of it as best it could (not very generously).
― Halfway there but for you, Friday, 29 January 2021 20:51 (three years ago) link
I played it and liked it.
But if I try to recall any of it, it's only the ilx versions I recall.
― Mark G, Friday, 29 January 2021 21:04 (three years ago) link
In the end, it was an ordinary heart
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 16 September 2021 00:48 (two years ago) link
I'm just a woman who likes menBut this is something elseI feel such stirrings
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 16 September 2021 00:52 (two years ago) link
Supreme violation
― brimstead, Thursday, 16 September 2021 01:07 (two years ago) link
psychic savagery
― ciderpress, Thursday, 16 September 2021 01:20 (two years ago) link
i want lovers like the rainso many of them, so much the same
― tylerw, Thursday, 16 September 2021 02:35 (two years ago) link
I would cut my legs and tits offWhen I think of Boris Karloff and KinskiIn the dark of the moonIt made me dream of NosferatuTrapped on the isle of Doctor MoreauOh wouldn't it be lovely
― chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 16 September 2021 13:23 (two years ago) link
This has been the quickest ten years ever.
― pplains, Thursday, 16 September 2021 13:35 (two years ago) link
"pumping blood" would be a really good wrestler entrance theme
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 16 September 2021 13:44 (two years ago) link
Finally spiritually ready to listen to Lulu
― change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 28 December 2022 20:46 (one year ago) link
this is the greatest journey a man can make
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 28 December 2022 21:05 (one year ago) link
^^^^^^^
― change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 29 December 2022 20:38 (one year ago) link
I love that Lou Reed loved it. It's wild that the tracks on the second half of the record have Spotify plays between like 160k - 260k, those are indie numbers.
It's easy to see why fans on both sides hated or wrote it off. It's not cool, it's loose in the areas where Metallica is usually tight, it feels tight where Lou usually has a looseness, it's lyrical and sexual in ways that are antithetical to how people traditionally listen to metal (maybe there are some goth or doom exceptions to this? Idk). I'm honestly surprised it hasn't had its critical re-evaluation yet, we've even passed the 10th anniversary (!).
― change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 29 December 2022 20:49 (one year ago) link
Junior Dad flies by, shortest 20 min song ever.
― change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 29 December 2022 21:07 (one year ago) link
Also the best 20 min song
― Mule, Thursday, 29 December 2022 21:22 (one year ago) link
I remain convinced that this will one day be as revered as, say, Trout Mask Replica: the “difficult” album that slowly worms its way into the canon.
― mike t-diva, Thursday, 29 December 2022 21:39 (one year ago) link
I would cut my legs and tits off when that happens
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Thursday, 29 December 2022 21:49 (one year ago) link
the audience for an old man warbling about pussy over disconnected riffing is always going to be a niche one
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Thursday, 29 December 2022 21:52 (one year ago) link
Jokermen podcast finally did their Lulu reclamation episode, after doing every other Lou Reed & John Cale record.
https://podcastaddict.com/jokermen/episode/171949829
There's a Patreon ep with Robert Trujillo...would have been amazing to get Lars, but that's pretty cool.
― Jordan s/t (Jordan), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 20:31 (one month ago) link
A little off topic, but Laurie Anderson plays Junior Dad live at most of her concerts. If anyone is on the fence of seeing her live, its worth it just for that.
― bbq, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 20:43 (one month ago) link
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 21:36 (one month ago) link
just heard she did Junior Dad at Big Ears
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 27 March 2024 17:05 (yesterday) link
for the second time!
― c u (crüt), Wednesday, 27 March 2024 17:32 (yesterday) link
She played it again in LA last night, but cut off the recording before "get the coffee / turn the lights on / say hello to Junior Dad," which for me was always the climax. Still deeply moving, though... and I love that she recognizes the power of this in-some-ways absurd song from this in-many-ways absurd project.
― mike powell, Thursday, 28 March 2024 14:46 (two hours ago) link
!
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 28 March 2024 14:50 (two hours ago) link
she also projected some of her own lyrics from "World Without End" in the background:
When my father died we put him in the groundWhen my father died it was like a whole library burned down
― c u (crüt), Thursday, 28 March 2024 14:52 (two hours ago) link
Yeah that was genuinely moving, having a Lou presence in the set.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 28 March 2024 15:00 (two hours ago) link