Grimes/Claire Boucher thread

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Her 2012 album Visions will be released on 4AD. Net strangers I've come to trust rate it.

The lead leak is electro-Frankie Valli.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpKqQ8fsBQs

der dukatenscheisser (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 03:44 (six years ago) Permalink

We have a Grimes thread? Oh man! This is the year when Montreal's weird noise pop electronic stuff is going to get attention! Excited!

Looking v. much forward to this album. Vanessa was a highlight of 2011 and while 2009's Geidi Primes is still her best album, Halfaxa was good and her live shows have only improved with time.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 05:14 (six years ago) Permalink

oh cool - this was one of the things that lamp posted on his sandbox thread that i really liked a lot

sarahel, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 08:47 (six years ago) Permalink

New track available here. Good stuff.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 5 January 2012 02:19 (six years ago) Permalink

this one is the one I love (right now).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEeQ758ldqo

fffv, Thursday, 5 January 2012 04:29 (six years ago) Permalink

Whoa. I don't think I have that - which album is it from?

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 5 January 2012 05:02 (six years ago) Permalink

from what I understand it is another track from the new one.

fffv, Thursday, 5 January 2012 05:10 (six years ago) Permalink

terrible

waka flocka dimes (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 5 January 2012 05:40 (six years ago) Permalink

I don't think you're in her demographic, sweet

gord downer (Ówen P.), Thursday, 5 January 2012 07:46 (six years ago) Permalink

i am not sure i can get with this girl's voice

all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Thursday, 5 January 2012 09:31 (six years ago) Permalink

probably an unfair comparison but i think of her in connection with gazelle twin, who i discovered at the same time on that sandbox thread, and gazelle twin's music is so much more affecting

all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Thursday, 5 January 2012 09:32 (six years ago) Permalink

very strange girl! (unf, i also think she might be one of those people for whom an accelerated hype-cycle is a bad thing. hope i'm wrong.)

sean gramophone, Thursday, 5 January 2012 14:08 (six years ago) Permalink

I just got the press release.

Moving to Montreal from Vancouver in 2006, she developed Grimes among the city’s burgeoning DIY scene; a scene where both punk ethos and pop music collide, resulting in a distinct sense of community, religiosity and psychedelic revelry.

Were it not for the word "psychedelic" that description brought to mind mall punk.

This new set incorporates influences as wide as Enya, TLC and Aphex Twin, whilst drawing from genres like New Jack Swing, IDM, New Age, K-pop, Industrial and glitch resulting in a record that is both otherworldly and futuristic.

That mix of references simultaneously makes me cringe and curious.

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 5 January 2012 16:40 (six years ago) Permalink

lists of "influences" are always cringeworthy

Number None, Thursday, 5 January 2012 16:42 (six years ago) Permalink

an accelerated hype-cycle is a bad thing

It's interesting you'd say that! I'm excited for her success, in a "get money, find rat-free living" sort of way. And although I def feel there's going to be success for Arbutus in the next couple years, I can't say that cash flow + hype is going to have a necessarily positive effect on that scene

gord downer (Ówen P.), Thursday, 5 January 2012 17:34 (six years ago) Permalink

's musical output.

gord downer (Ówen P.), Thursday, 5 January 2012 17:35 (six years ago) Permalink

Well BRAIDS has already jumped up out of that scene and into hype, and Native Speaker was a gorgeous record. Curious to see if/when/what Blue Hawaii release next.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 6 January 2012 05:53 (six years ago) Permalink

i am not sure i can get with this girl's voice

I'm listening to the split with d'Eon from last year at the moment and this is my main issue, although it's only a couple of tracks where it sounds annoying.

The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 15:57 (six years ago) Permalink

I listened to Halfaxa and wasn't really feeling it - did I start in the wrong place?

Matt DC, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 16:13 (six years ago) Permalink

Yes, i've got an album by her and it's OK, but not much more

Tom D (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 16:15 (six years ago) Permalink

Geidi Prime is stronger than Halfaxa, imo.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 17:04 (six years ago) Permalink

But I dunno, it depends on what part of it you aren't feeling.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 17:05 (six years ago) Permalink

I think "Oblivion" - the first single from the 4AD album - is better than almost anything she's recorded.

sean gramophone, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 17:26 (six years ago) Permalink

"Oblivion" is awesome. Those synths sounds like universes collapsing on themselves.

"I know its hard to hear but I'm a Realest." (rennavate), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:45 (six years ago) Permalink

Huh, weird, coz I think Halfaxa >>>> Geidi Prime, it's less focused but it's more ambitious and better realised. I don't hear Enya or TLC or Aphex Twin in her music, but it does give an idea of the scope of her range. But then again, at other times, I like her coz she reminds me of those 4AD 4-track weirdoes like Danielle Dax or His Name Is Alive.

Quite pleased that certain elements dislike her (heh) but it is distinctly odd to see her popping up in the NME every now and then. I think she might actually have the ability to sustain making good music despite the hype cycle - someone's third album is a much better place for the hype to kick in, rather than, y'know, the third song.

Damn, I wish I'd saved other links from my arty experimental gothy electronica sandbox thread. The only other artists I can remember having a consensus on were Emika and maybe Laurel Halo? I don't feel like starting it up again.

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Sunday, 15 January 2012 19:52 (six years ago) Permalink

Barbara Panther, Niki & the Dove, Gazelle Twin, Julia Holter, and iamamiwhoami also got shoutouts.

Plato’s The Cave In Claymation (Sanpaku), Sunday, 15 January 2012 19:57 (six years ago) Permalink

And Austra.

LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 23:01 (six years ago) Permalink

this leaked. and it's good, but I don't think it will convince anyone who wasn't prone to be convinced by the previous stuff.

fffv, Saturday, 21 January 2012 02:30 (six years ago) Permalink

i really don't know what i think of this album

tinie tempurah (lex pretend), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 13:53 (six years ago) Permalink

there are bits of it that are OH FUCK YES, and there are bits that i am just not down with and a lot of the time it's like she's nearly hitting the spot and then nothing happens

tinie tempurah (lex pretend), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 13:55 (six years ago) Permalink

I'm loving the background vocals on Vowels = space and time.

Skin is also an early favourite.

Be A Body (侘寂) is totally going to be the next single, right?

This is an album of wonderful moments. Not all of them are 'songs' for me yet, but a lot of them are.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 3 February 2012 22:16 (six years ago) Permalink

I quite like "Oblivion," not sure yet about the rest.

jaymc, Friday, 3 February 2012 22:34 (six years ago) Permalink

When is this out, properly? Really want to hear this, the comments are piquing my interest.

Drexciya's Midnight Runners (Wheal Dream), Friday, 3 February 2012 23:37 (six years ago) Permalink

really digging this myself

Chris S, Saturday, 4 February 2012 03:07 (six years ago) Permalink

from what I understand, this is out on either the 21st of this month (Arbutus, US and Canada) or the 12th of next month (4AD, most everywhere else). and I hope that previous comments did not imply that I lack enthusiasm. I love Visions a lot, but despite all of the pop aspirations it feels like it was built to inspire obsession from a limited audience.

fffv, Saturday, 4 February 2012 03:28 (six years ago) Permalink

She definitely has the charm and hooks to pull to a wider audience but her songwriting could use some editing... many times it does sound like the songs drift without any specific purpose and as a whole it drags.

Moka, Saturday, 4 February 2012 05:55 (six years ago) Permalink

For legit consumers, Visions streaming in its entirety

Pauper Management Improved (Sanpaku), Monday, 13 February 2012 21:24 (six years ago) Permalink

Can't. Don't have the bandwidth!

*cries*

Why couldn't this have been available 2 weeks ago when I still had all you can eat broadband?

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Monday, 13 February 2012 23:00 (six years ago) Permalink

Given there's nothing on the album I'm bored by, I think editing would inevitably mean reducing the idiosyncratic facets I'm charmed by.

Best thing about Grimes: she has such disinterest (contempt?) for lyrical content as she chirps through her baby birdsong. She might as well be the electropop version of Juliana Barwick..

Pauper Management Improved (Sanpaku), Monday, 13 February 2012 23:11 (six years ago) Permalink

yeh this is excellent

nathey, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:30 (six years ago) Permalink

"skin" is very pretty, but a bit insubstantial, tho i guess "insubstantial" is kinda the point. soft, sweet, ghostly. don't hear no afx, but enya sure. and i don't hate enya, but i don't love this. got bored before the 6 minutes were up.

"oblivion" is much more immediate. the nothing lyrics are kind of selling me, "look into my eyes and la la la la la, see you on a dark night". that's great! love the synths at the end, too.

want more songs like "oblivion"

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:45 (six years ago) Permalink

Be A Body (侘寂) is totally going to be the next single, right?

dunno, but it's v nice. enya influence is even more prominent at the beginning, but j-lo too? love the shift to dark propulive beats halfway through.

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:00 (six years ago) Permalink

For lex:
Grimes namechecked a similar/sympatico artist Mozart's Sister whose voice might be more to your liking:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oy1u4v2LIfU

Pauper Management Improved (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:18 (six years ago) Permalink

^ Also of Montreal.

Pauper Management Improved (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:19 (six years ago) Permalink

I'm gonna bookmark this thread for when I've topped up my data bcuz "electronic Juliana Barwick" = WCC catnip if I wasn't onboard already (which I have been since Halfaxa)

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:28 (six years ago) Permalink

so she made this on garageband, huh?

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:35 (six years ago) Permalink

Mozart's Sister is also v. good!

They have a three track EP called DEAR FEAR from last year. Maybe they have other stuff too? Not sure.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 18:15 (six years ago) Permalink

yaaaaaarg, just listening to her stuff now (i'm always way late with everything) and enjoying it a lot. i just took a break from some incredibly bureaucratic shit at work to watch this video and i don't..think..i can go back to work again today

tmi but (Z S), Friday, 17 February 2012 21:41 (six years ago) Permalink

Skin reminds me of a mix between Enya and Natalie Imbruglia's smoke. Am I too off?

Moka, Friday, 17 February 2012 23:00 (six years ago) Permalink

doesn’t doomsday science fiction about AI predate the online rationalist community by like a century?

flopson, Friday, 30 November 2018 18:45 (two weeks ago) Permalink

sad that grimes has succumbed to irony poisoning

ogmor, Friday, 30 November 2018 18:46 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I'd prefer irony poisoning to sincerity in this case

resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 30 November 2018 18:47 (two weeks ago) Permalink

this doesn't sound enough like fear factory

there's only one band in the world for whom this is not the case, tbf

crispy fun in a bun (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 30 November 2018 18:52 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Poppy Breaks Down New Album 'Am I A Girl?' And Says She Was 'Bullied' By Grimes

She also worked with Grimes on “Play Destroy,” which she says is one of her favorite songs on the record despite a behind-the-scenes process she “could have gone without.”

“I was kind of bullied into submission by Grimes and her team of self-proclaimed feminists,” she says. “We planned the song coming out months ago, and she was preventing it. I got to watch her bully songwriters into signing NDAs and not taking credit for songs that they were a part of. She doesn't practice what she preaches. It's really upsetting to work with a female that is very outward about a topic, but behind closed doors, it's the complete opposite. It's actually very disheartening to people that are actually feminists and supporters of other females.” (Billboard reached out to Grimes’ representatives for comment.)

flappy bird, Friday, 30 November 2018 20:02 (two weeks ago) Permalink

ok, poppy

fascist gwar grimes (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 30 November 2018 20:08 (two weeks ago) Permalink

"I was kind of bullied into submission by Grimes and her team of self-proclaimed feminists"

Iconic sentence of 2018

very legal & very cool (morrisp), Friday, 30 November 2018 20:19 (two weeks ago) Permalink

fwiw grimes also followed mars argo recently

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 30 November 2018 20:21 (two weeks ago) Permalink

(background on that, which is a whole thing, and I'm not sure what to make of it besides the fact that virtually every dude involved in this either is or seems terrible https://www.polygon.com/2018/5/16/17346050/poppy-lawsuit-mars-argo-titanic-sinclair-youtube-explained)

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 30 November 2018 20:21 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Here’s a brief lesson in how context works.

*closes tab*

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 30 November 2018 20:24 (two weeks ago) Permalink

lol

fascist gwar grimes (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 30 November 2018 20:32 (two weeks ago) Permalink

LOL

Cousin Slappy, Saturday, 1 December 2018 02:02 (one week ago) Permalink

wow way to disregard context brad!!!

resident hack (Simon H.), Saturday, 1 December 2018 02:08 (one week ago) Permalink

when we're slidin' into first and we're feelin' something burst
we appreciate power

geoffreyess, Sunday, 2 December 2018 15:09 (one week ago) Permalink

haha!

my name is leee john, for we are many (NickB), Sunday, 2 December 2018 15:10 (one week ago) Permalink

Aaaaahhaa

Spottie, Sunday, 2 December 2018 16:13 (one week ago) Permalink

https://i.imgur.com/na7v8Mc.png

Frozen CD, Sunday, 2 December 2018 16:14 (one week ago) Permalink

Remember when Grimes made music, not drama?

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Sunday, 2 December 2018 16:42 (one week ago) Permalink

Drama is way more lucrative

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, 2 December 2018 17:03 (one week ago) Permalink

The information that we get about all these feuds are always so fragmentary. It’s impossible to figure out what actually happened.

Trϵϵship, Sunday, 2 December 2018 17:16 (one week ago) Permalink

Like what is the “disgusting situation” Poppy drew her into?

Trϵϵship, Sunday, 2 December 2018 17:19 (one week ago) Permalink

And what does it have to do with Grimes allegedly abusing NDA’s to deny credits to Poppy’s creative partners? Why would Grimes even do that for a track that was collaborative? Every single thing with Grimes is like this. Never clear.

Trϵϵship, Sunday, 2 December 2018 17:21 (one week ago) Permalink

And who was the “team of self proclaimed feminists”? Like a feminsit lawyer squad that Grimes has that behind the scenes try to discredit female artists? I didn’t know Grimes had one of these. And why doesn’t Poppy herself mention the artists she wanted to get credited?

Trϵϵship, Sunday, 2 December 2018 17:23 (one week ago) Permalink

People are going to take sides but no one even knows what the point of disagreement is.

Trϵϵship, Sunday, 2 December 2018 17:25 (one week ago) Permalink

That's called covering your own ass, no matter the cost. Rule #1 in the So You've Decided To Be a Neo-fascist phamplet.

Cousin Slappy, Sunday, 2 December 2018 17:25 (one week ago) Permalink

See I don’t think there is a “fascist” plot behind this.

Trϵϵship, Sunday, 2 December 2018 17:29 (one week ago) Permalink

That seems weird and ridiculous.

Trϵϵship, Sunday, 2 December 2018 17:29 (one week ago) Permalink

Treesh r u still watching gilmore girls

F# A# (∞), Sunday, 2 December 2018 17:37 (one week ago) Permalink

You're taking all of this waaaay too seriously.

Cousin Slappy, Sunday, 2 December 2018 17:38 (one week ago) Permalink

I can take stuff as seriously as I want, this is ILM

Trϵϵship, Sunday, 2 December 2018 17:44 (one week ago) Permalink

I just think a lot of discourse around Grimes circles around a void of unknowability.

Trϵϵship, Sunday, 2 December 2018 17:44 (one week ago) Permalink

Thought she was addressing George H.W. Bush in that note for a minute and was very confused

flappy bird, Sunday, 2 December 2018 17:45 (one week ago) Permalink

Yeah she dated george hw before elon

Trϵϵship, Sunday, 2 December 2018 17:46 (one week ago) Permalink

Oh word

flappy bird, Sunday, 2 December 2018 17:47 (one week ago) Permalink

I mean, everyone's free to make a fool of themselves in public. This is ILM.

Cousin Slappy, Sunday, 2 December 2018 17:58 (one week ago) Permalink

Says the animaniac character

F# A# (∞), Sunday, 2 December 2018 18:06 (one week ago) Permalink

Whoa..you got me there! Har.

Cousin Slappy, Sunday, 2 December 2018 18:09 (one week ago) Permalink

Why weren’t you threadbanned for your misogyny upthread

Trϵϵship, Sunday, 2 December 2018 18:10 (one week ago) Permalink

Say what you really mean, which is why wasn't I banned because you couldn't think of a clever response. I'll gladly ban myself from this circle jerk of creepy creeps.

Cousin Slappy, Sunday, 2 December 2018 18:17 (one week ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKAJs8waYd4

F# A# (∞), Sunday, 2 December 2018 18:25 (one week ago) Permalink

Remember when Grimes made music, not drama?

― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Sunday, December 2, 2018 8:42 AM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

every musician has drama, and tbh no one really knows what’s up (like did Sinatra kill JFK over a mob beef, maybe sure but who knows) and a lot of this Grimes drama has been at least publicly initiated by others.

omar little, Sunday, 2 December 2018 20:04 (one week ago) Permalink

I just think a lot of discourse circles around a void of unknowability.

― Trϵϵship, Sunday, December 2, 2018 12:44 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fixed

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Sunday, 2 December 2018 20:59 (one week ago) Permalink

yeah, i won't argue with that.

Trϵϵship, Sunday, 2 December 2018 21:04 (one week ago) Permalink

anyway the melody on the bridge is "give me all your luvin" (it's probably something else as well, that's just the one that was bugging me)

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Sunday, 2 December 2018 21:31 (one week ago) Permalink

The 2012 Madonna song?

MarkoP, Sunday, 2 December 2018 22:09 (one week ago) Permalink

I can take stuff as seriously as I want, this is ILM

― Trϵϵship, Sunday, December 2, 2018 10:44 AM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

new board descrip etc

gbx, Sunday, 2 December 2018 22:12 (one week ago) Permalink

yeah, "backed up on a drive" vs. "dance our live away"

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Sunday, 2 December 2018 22:44 (one week ago) Permalink

would assume grimes is referring to all the drama surrounding poppy and titanic sinclair etc. so it's not hard to believe her here

ufo, Monday, 3 December 2018 00:46 (one week ago) Permalink

XP I thought Quincy Jones already spilled the beans on who killed JFK

octobeard, Monday, 3 December 2018 08:57 (one week ago) Permalink


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