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Her 2012 album Visions will be released on 4AD. Net strangers I've come to trust rate it.

The lead leak is electro-Frankie Valli.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpKqQ8fsBQs

der dukatenscheisser (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 03:44 (six years ago) Permalink

We have a Grimes thread? Oh man! This is the year when Montreal's weird noise pop electronic stuff is going to get attention! Excited!

Looking v. much forward to this album. Vanessa was a highlight of 2011 and while 2009's Geidi Primes is still her best album, Halfaxa was good and her live shows have only improved with time.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 05:14 (six years ago) Permalink

oh cool - this was one of the things that lamp posted on his sandbox thread that i really liked a lot

sarahel, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 08:47 (six years ago) Permalink

New track available here. Good stuff.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 5 January 2012 02:19 (six years ago) Permalink

this one is the one I love (right now).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEeQ758ldqo

fffv, Thursday, 5 January 2012 04:29 (six years ago) Permalink

Whoa. I don't think I have that - which album is it from?

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 5 January 2012 05:02 (six years ago) Permalink

from what I understand it is another track from the new one.

fffv, Thursday, 5 January 2012 05:10 (six years ago) Permalink

terrible

waka flocka dimes (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 5 January 2012 05:40 (six years ago) Permalink

I don't think you're in her demographic, sweet

gord downer (Ówen P.), Thursday, 5 January 2012 07:46 (six years ago) Permalink

i am not sure i can get with this girl's voice

all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Thursday, 5 January 2012 09:31 (six years ago) Permalink

probably an unfair comparison but i think of her in connection with gazelle twin, who i discovered at the same time on that sandbox thread, and gazelle twin's music is so much more affecting

all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Thursday, 5 January 2012 09:32 (six years ago) Permalink

very strange girl! (unf, i also think she might be one of those people for whom an accelerated hype-cycle is a bad thing. hope i'm wrong.)

sean gramophone, Thursday, 5 January 2012 14:08 (six years ago) Permalink

I just got the press release.

Moving to Montreal from Vancouver in 2006, she developed Grimes among the city’s burgeoning DIY scene; a scene where both punk ethos and pop music collide, resulting in a distinct sense of community, religiosity and psychedelic revelry.

Were it not for the word "psychedelic" that description brought to mind mall punk.

This new set incorporates influences as wide as Enya, TLC and Aphex Twin, whilst drawing from genres like New Jack Swing, IDM, New Age, K-pop, Industrial and glitch resulting in a record that is both otherworldly and futuristic.

That mix of references simultaneously makes me cringe and curious.

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 5 January 2012 16:40 (six years ago) Permalink

lists of "influences" are always cringeworthy

Number None, Thursday, 5 January 2012 16:42 (six years ago) Permalink

an accelerated hype-cycle is a bad thing

It's interesting you'd say that! I'm excited for her success, in a "get money, find rat-free living" sort of way. And although I def feel there's going to be success for Arbutus in the next couple years, I can't say that cash flow + hype is going to have a necessarily positive effect on that scene

gord downer (Ówen P.), Thursday, 5 January 2012 17:34 (six years ago) Permalink

's musical output.

gord downer (Ówen P.), Thursday, 5 January 2012 17:35 (six years ago) Permalink

Well BRAIDS has already jumped up out of that scene and into hype, and Native Speaker was a gorgeous record. Curious to see if/when/what Blue Hawaii release next.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 6 January 2012 05:53 (six years ago) Permalink

i am not sure i can get with this girl's voice

I'm listening to the split with d'Eon from last year at the moment and this is my main issue, although it's only a couple of tracks where it sounds annoying.

The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 15:57 (six years ago) Permalink

I listened to Halfaxa and wasn't really feeling it - did I start in the wrong place?

Matt DC, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 16:13 (six years ago) Permalink

Yes, i've got an album by her and it's OK, but not much more

Tom D (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 16:15 (six years ago) Permalink

Geidi Prime is stronger than Halfaxa, imo.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 17:04 (six years ago) Permalink

But I dunno, it depends on what part of it you aren't feeling.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 17:05 (six years ago) Permalink

I think "Oblivion" - the first single from the 4AD album - is better than almost anything she's recorded.

sean gramophone, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 17:26 (six years ago) Permalink

"Oblivion" is awesome. Those synths sounds like universes collapsing on themselves.

"I know its hard to hear but I'm a Realest." (rennavate), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:45 (six years ago) Permalink

Huh, weird, coz I think Halfaxa >>>> Geidi Prime, it's less focused but it's more ambitious and better realised. I don't hear Enya or TLC or Aphex Twin in her music, but it does give an idea of the scope of her range. But then again, at other times, I like her coz she reminds me of those 4AD 4-track weirdoes like Danielle Dax or His Name Is Alive.

Quite pleased that certain elements dislike her (heh) but it is distinctly odd to see her popping up in the NME every now and then. I think she might actually have the ability to sustain making good music despite the hype cycle - someone's third album is a much better place for the hype to kick in, rather than, y'know, the third song.

Damn, I wish I'd saved other links from my arty experimental gothy electronica sandbox thread. The only other artists I can remember having a consensus on were Emika and maybe Laurel Halo? I don't feel like starting it up again.

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Sunday, 15 January 2012 19:52 (six years ago) Permalink

Barbara Panther, Niki & the Dove, Gazelle Twin, Julia Holter, and iamamiwhoami also got shoutouts.

Plato’s The Cave In Claymation (Sanpaku), Sunday, 15 January 2012 19:57 (six years ago) Permalink

And Austra.

LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 23:01 (six years ago) Permalink

this leaked. and it's good, but I don't think it will convince anyone who wasn't prone to be convinced by the previous stuff.

fffv, Saturday, 21 January 2012 02:30 (five years ago) Permalink

i really don't know what i think of this album

tinie tempurah (lex pretend), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 13:53 (five years ago) Permalink

there are bits of it that are OH FUCK YES, and there are bits that i am just not down with and a lot of the time it's like she's nearly hitting the spot and then nothing happens

tinie tempurah (lex pretend), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 13:55 (five years ago) Permalink

I'm loving the background vocals on Vowels = space and time.

Skin is also an early favourite.

Be A Body (侘寂) is totally going to be the next single, right?

This is an album of wonderful moments. Not all of them are 'songs' for me yet, but a lot of them are.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 3 February 2012 22:16 (five years ago) Permalink

I quite like "Oblivion," not sure yet about the rest.

jaymc, Friday, 3 February 2012 22:34 (five years ago) Permalink

When is this out, properly? Really want to hear this, the comments are piquing my interest.

Drexciya's Midnight Runners (Wheal Dream), Friday, 3 February 2012 23:37 (five years ago) Permalink

really digging this myself

Chris S, Saturday, 4 February 2012 03:07 (five years ago) Permalink

from what I understand, this is out on either the 21st of this month (Arbutus, US and Canada) or the 12th of next month (4AD, most everywhere else). and I hope that previous comments did not imply that I lack enthusiasm. I love Visions a lot, but despite all of the pop aspirations it feels like it was built to inspire obsession from a limited audience.

fffv, Saturday, 4 February 2012 03:28 (five years ago) Permalink

She definitely has the charm and hooks to pull to a wider audience but her songwriting could use some editing... many times it does sound like the songs drift without any specific purpose and as a whole it drags.

Moka, Saturday, 4 February 2012 05:55 (five years ago) Permalink

For legit consumers, Visions streaming in its entirety

Pauper Management Improved (Sanpaku), Monday, 13 February 2012 21:24 (five years ago) Permalink

Can't. Don't have the bandwidth!

*cries*

Why couldn't this have been available 2 weeks ago when I still had all you can eat broadband?

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Monday, 13 February 2012 23:00 (five years ago) Permalink

Given there's nothing on the album I'm bored by, I think editing would inevitably mean reducing the idiosyncratic facets I'm charmed by.

Best thing about Grimes: she has such disinterest (contempt?) for lyrical content as she chirps through her baby birdsong. She might as well be the electropop version of Juliana Barwick..

Pauper Management Improved (Sanpaku), Monday, 13 February 2012 23:11 (five years ago) Permalink

yeh this is excellent

nathey, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:30 (five years ago) Permalink

"skin" is very pretty, but a bit insubstantial, tho i guess "insubstantial" is kinda the point. soft, sweet, ghostly. don't hear no afx, but enya sure. and i don't hate enya, but i don't love this. got bored before the 6 minutes were up.

"oblivion" is much more immediate. the nothing lyrics are kind of selling me, "look into my eyes and la la la la la, see you on a dark night". that's great! love the synths at the end, too.

want more songs like "oblivion"

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:45 (five years ago) Permalink

Be A Body (侘寂) is totally going to be the next single, right?

dunno, but it's v nice. enya influence is even more prominent at the beginning, but j-lo too? love the shift to dark propulive beats halfway through.

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:00 (five years ago) Permalink

For lex:
Grimes namechecked a similar/sympatico artist Mozart's Sister whose voice might be more to your liking:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oy1u4v2LIfU

Pauper Management Improved (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:18 (five years ago) Permalink

^ Also of Montreal.

Pauper Management Improved (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:19 (five years ago) Permalink

I'm gonna bookmark this thread for when I've topped up my data bcuz "electronic Juliana Barwick" = WCC catnip if I wasn't onboard already (which I have been since Halfaxa)

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:28 (five years ago) Permalink

so she made this on garageband, huh?

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:35 (five years ago) Permalink

Mozart's Sister is also v. good!

They have a three track EP called DEAR FEAR from last year. Maybe they have other stuff too? Not sure.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 18:15 (five years ago) Permalink

yaaaaaarg, just listening to her stuff now (i'm always way late with everything) and enjoying it a lot. i just took a break from some incredibly bureaucratic shit at work to watch this video and i don't..think..i can go back to work again today

tmi but (Z S), Friday, 17 February 2012 21:41 (five years ago) Permalink

Skin reminds me of a mix between Enya and Natalie Imbruglia's smoke. Am I too off?

Moka, Friday, 17 February 2012 23:00 (five years ago) Permalink

art angels is alllllright imo, kind of feels like she's dodging the spotlight but not in a way that feels confident or purposeful

its a progression from visions but i think visions promises a lot more, or contains more potential in its dna

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 19:27 (three weeks ago) Permalink

i agree. i like art angels a lot, but the 3 year gap between albums compounded the disappointment... it really sounds like she skipped an album in between the two, which we know she did... there's a dearth there, despite both albums being great.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 26 December 2017 19:37 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Crystal ball desserves more love

kolakube (Ross), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 19:37 (three weeks ago) Permalink

But albums are brilliant and Grimes rules. If the new album is half as good as any of them we’re good. Frankly a bit afraid it might not live up to expectations, no idea how you can follow up and improve on what she has done so far.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 20:47 (three weeks ago) Permalink

i revisited art angels the other week and i’m sorta with deej. only about half of it really hits imo (kill v. maim, pin)

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 20:50 (three weeks ago) Permalink

yeah both albums are great but there's one missing in there. it's hard to explain but her catalogue feels weirdly sparse & empty, the leap from Visions to Art Angels is too big and incongruous, it feels like the third album in a trilogy and Visions the first.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 26 December 2017 22:04 (three weeks ago) Permalink

iirc grimes' evolution in sound between visions to art angels was partly due informed by her live touring

kolakube (Ross), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 22:08 (three weeks ago) Permalink

She made an album then scratched it. That material was, I guess, the missing link in her development

treeship 2, Tuesday, 26 December 2017 22:23 (three weeks ago) Permalink

right, that's what i was saying. i'm not criticizing her decision, we're not entitled to that work if she doesn't want to release it, i'm just saying the missing link sticks out to me when I put Visions next to Art Angels

flappy bird, Tuesday, 26 December 2017 22:24 (three weeks ago) Permalink

although worth noting that the REALiTi demo- a recording that people worship- is from that scrapped album

flappy bird, Tuesday, 26 December 2017 22:25 (three weeks ago) Permalink

there are a few duds on Art Angels - Belly of the Beat feels meandering and SCREAM is completely out of place - but the highs (nearly all the rest of it) are so high that it doesn't bother me much and I would definitely put it above Visions even though Visions is a bit more of a cohesive whole

as far as the unreleased material goes I really hope that David gets a proper release someday, that's one of her best tracks

ufo, Wednesday, 27 December 2017 01:37 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Realiti (aka the best song from the 2010’s) is the missing link you’re looking for.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 27 December 2017 01:44 (three weeks ago) Permalink

^ best song psshaw.

kolakube (Ross), Wednesday, 27 December 2017 01:49 (three weeks ago) Permalink

i mean it's very good but realti's sort of taking on a life of its own iirc

kolakube (Ross), Wednesday, 27 December 2017 01:50 (three weeks ago) Permalink

*taken

kolakube (Ross), Wednesday, 27 December 2017 01:50 (three weeks ago) Permalink

could that not be because it's one of the best songs of the 2010s?

attention vampire (MatthewK), Wednesday, 27 December 2017 01:53 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Indeed it could, point taken

kolakube (Ross), Wednesday, 27 December 2017 01:56 (three weeks ago) Permalink

as far as the unreleased material goes I really hope that David gets a proper release someday, that's one of her best tracks

― ufo, Tuesday, December 26, 2017 8:37 PM (thirty-six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yes. It’s very frustrating. The live video of her performing it is something else.

It’s insane for someone to write a song like that but have so much other great material they don’t even bother releasing it.

treeship 2, Wednesday, 27 December 2017 02:17 (three weeks ago) Permalink

artists can do whatever the fuck they want, if it comes about the audience then that's where shit goes south tbh

kolakube (Ross), Wednesday, 27 December 2017 02:19 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I agree. Still.

treeship 2, Wednesday, 27 December 2017 02:19 (three weeks ago) Permalink

cheers mate, it is a great song

kolakube (Ross), Wednesday, 27 December 2017 02:21 (three weeks ago) Permalink

artists can do whatever the fuck they want, if it comes about the audience then that's where shit goes south tbh

― kolakube (Ross), Tuesday, December 26, 2017 8:19 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This feels like the truth is more dialectical than that but sure

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 27 December 2017 16:52 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Yeah probably an overstatement on my part, probably should take it easy. Steering this convo back to realti as a missing link (and perhaps "go"), how much do you all feel realti demo gave an indication to her direction on art angels? Feels like it still had a lot of the vocal presence of visions. When California hit on art angels it felt like that summed up where she was at for her audience

kolakube (Ross), Wednesday, 27 December 2017 20:21 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I'd say your right, Realiti is kind of the zenith of the Visions style whereas Art Angels shed the buried-vocal feel in its quest for high pop.

attention vampire (MatthewK), Wednesday, 27 December 2017 20:28 (three weeks ago) Permalink

These are the rare and unreleased songs:

Gloam
Ham Mermaid
The Crazy Doctor
World Brain
Behaviour
The Eye
whoknoidontno
Voignamir
emancipated reality vixen
Fifteen Minutes To
Black Hair
Unknown Track (unplugged)
(Things That Were Not)
Unknown Track #02
Saturn Princess
Fragments of The Future
Ya vas Lyubil
David
Sleepwalking
Go (SXM Version)
REALiTi (Demo)

Surely at least an EP connecting Visions and Art Angels can be made from these (Go and Realiti as singles)

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 27 December 2017 21:32 (three weeks ago) Permalink

i get the feeling she's made a purposeful decision to not release that material, for whatever reason

treeship 2, Wednesday, 27 December 2017 21:33 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Iirc she didn’t feel Realiti was that good (which is bonkers) or didn’t feel like it belonged on her newfound art pop sound for artangels. I suppose that applies to all of those... she didn’t feel like they were part of the new era.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 27 December 2017 21:37 (three weeks ago) Permalink

maintain that album version >>>>

imago, Wednesday, 27 December 2017 21:42 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Here’s a link to a googledrive with the unreleased songs in case you want to hear:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Grimes/comments/4bxkuj/all_grimes_unreleased_songs_in_one_album/

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 27 December 2017 21:43 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Moka do you have mp3s of those?

calstars, Wednesday, 27 December 2017 21:43 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Follow that link I posted. I think they should be there but I’m posting from my cellphone and that link is a year old, it used to have them.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 27 December 2017 22:05 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Doh. Thank you

calstars, Wednesday, 27 December 2017 22:15 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Link seems to still work ✌🏻

calstars, Wednesday, 27 December 2017 22:16 (three weeks ago) Permalink

whoa, crazy list. i had no idea she had performed so many of these songs live (or are they leaked demos?)

flappy bird, Wednesday, 27 December 2017 22:54 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Thanks Moka!!

kolakube (Ross), Thursday, 28 December 2017 00:04 (two weeks ago) Permalink

There’s also this kind of charming post that shows how perfectly amateurish Visions and Grimes as a producer was:

http://web.archive.org/web/20120515000000*/actuallygrimes.tumblr.com

Goes to show if you have talent and passion for what you want to achieve you can make a lot with so little.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 28 December 2017 00:36 (two weeks ago) Permalink

which post in specific? that just directs to the wayback machine.

I am happy to learn that Eevee was her fav Pokemon though. So many awesome Eeveelutions.

how's life, Thursday, 28 December 2017 00:55 (two weeks ago) Permalink

the reason she gave for not releasing the David-era material was that it was too depressing and she didn't want to tour it

ufo, Thursday, 28 December 2017 01:26 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Oh sorry wrong link.
I meant this one were she discussed how to make/record music

https://web.archive.org/web/20150831081620/http://actuallygrimes.tumblr.com/post/44357081528/how-to-make-music-for-almost-free-u-should

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 28 December 2017 02:12 (two weeks ago) Permalink

re: depressing material, it sounds like visions sleep/food deprivation binge was a heavy time too..

can't begrudge her tendency towards lighter material with art angels

kolakube (Ross), Thursday, 28 December 2017 02:37 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Hmmm might have to try that

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 28 December 2017 03:45 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Skeptical of any value added by providing finer sampling of her stylistic evolution via the release of 'tweener songs. more fun to embrace the myth of the artistic step function.

Scatperson (ski-ba-bop-ba-dop-whore.) (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 28 December 2017 18:05 (two weeks ago) Permalink

i need all the information

treeship 2, Thursday, 28 December 2017 18:07 (two weeks ago) Permalink

there's not enough

treeship 2, Thursday, 28 December 2017 18:08 (two weeks ago) Permalink

This fan edit of David might be the closest to a studio version we’ll get:

https://m.soundcloud.com/littlemonsteralejandro2/david-fanmade-studio

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 28 December 2017 19:43 (two weeks ago) Permalink

haha that tumblr post is fantastic

niels, Friday, 29 December 2017 06:10 (two weeks ago) Permalink

this wasn't bad though I like the tegan and sara original more

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sv1H85AxYiM

akm, Friday, 29 December 2017 22:23 (two weeks ago) Permalink

speaking of the shift from her "two styles" one could make a case that visions was the intermediary from the extremely depressive, haunting stuff she was releasing pre-visions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBJ-LPPcAqw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vulvMVhDqeU

i love this era of her music too. and the shadow or memory of this sound definitely enriches my appreciation for the aerodynamic sound of art angels. it emerged from the depths.

treeship 2, Sunday, 31 December 2017 13:05 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Easy to forget also the immense pressure of public/commercial/critical expectations after Visions. Remember the backlash against “Go”? Oy

flappy bird, Sunday, 31 December 2017 17:22 (two weeks ago) Permalink


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