Grimes/Claire Boucher thread

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i mean it's very good but realti's sort of taking on a life of its own iirc

kolakube (Ross), Wednesday, 27 December 2017 01:50 (six years ago) link

*taken

kolakube (Ross), Wednesday, 27 December 2017 01:50 (six years ago) link

could that not be because it's one of the best songs of the 2010s?

attention vampire (MatthewK), Wednesday, 27 December 2017 01:53 (six years ago) link

Indeed it could, point taken

kolakube (Ross), Wednesday, 27 December 2017 01:56 (six years ago) link

as far as the unreleased material goes I really hope that David gets a proper release someday, that's one of her best tracks

― ufo, Tuesday, December 26, 2017 8:37 PM (thirty-six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yes. It’s very frustrating. The live video of her performing it is something else.

It’s insane for someone to write a song like that but have so much other great material they don’t even bother releasing it.

treeship 2, Wednesday, 27 December 2017 02:17 (six years ago) link

artists can do whatever the fuck they want, if it comes about the audience then that's where shit goes south tbh

kolakube (Ross), Wednesday, 27 December 2017 02:19 (six years ago) link

I agree. Still.

treeship 2, Wednesday, 27 December 2017 02:19 (six years ago) link

cheers mate, it is a great song

kolakube (Ross), Wednesday, 27 December 2017 02:21 (six years ago) link

artists can do whatever the fuck they want, if it comes about the audience then that's where shit goes south tbh

― kolakube (Ross), Tuesday, December 26, 2017 8:19 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This feels like the truth is more dialectical than that but sure

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 27 December 2017 16:52 (six years ago) link

Yeah probably an overstatement on my part, probably should take it easy. Steering this convo back to realti as a missing link (and perhaps "go"), how much do you all feel realti demo gave an indication to her direction on art angels? Feels like it still had a lot of the vocal presence of visions. When California hit on art angels it felt like that summed up where she was at for her audience

kolakube (Ross), Wednesday, 27 December 2017 20:21 (six years ago) link

I'd say your right, Realiti is kind of the zenith of the Visions style whereas Art Angels shed the buried-vocal feel in its quest for high pop.

attention vampire (MatthewK), Wednesday, 27 December 2017 20:28 (six years ago) link

These are the rare and unreleased songs:

Gloam
Ham Mermaid
The Crazy Doctor
World Brain
Behaviour
The Eye
whoknoidontno
Voignamir
emancipated reality vixen
Fifteen Minutes To
Black Hair
Unknown Track (unplugged)
(Things That Were Not)
Unknown Track #02
Saturn Princess
Fragments of The Future
Ya vas Lyubil
David
Sleepwalking
Go (SXM Version)
REALiTi (Demo)

Surely at least an EP connecting Visions and Art Angels can be made from these (Go and Realiti as singles)

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 27 December 2017 21:32 (six years ago) link

i get the feeling she's made a purposeful decision to not release that material, for whatever reason

treeship 2, Wednesday, 27 December 2017 21:33 (six years ago) link

Iirc she didn’t feel Realiti was that good (which is bonkers) or didn’t feel like it belonged on her newfound art pop sound for artangels. I suppose that applies to all of those... she didn’t feel like they were part of the new era.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 27 December 2017 21:37 (six years ago) link

maintain that album version >>>>

imago, Wednesday, 27 December 2017 21:42 (six years ago) link

Here’s a link to a googledrive with the unreleased songs in case you want to hear:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Grimes/comments/4bxkuj/all_grimes_unreleased_songs_in_one_album/

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 27 December 2017 21:43 (six years ago) link

Moka do you have mp3s of those?

calstars, Wednesday, 27 December 2017 21:43 (six years ago) link

Follow that link I posted. I think they should be there but I’m posting from my cellphone and that link is a year old, it used to have them.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 27 December 2017 22:05 (six years ago) link

Doh. Thank you

calstars, Wednesday, 27 December 2017 22:15 (six years ago) link

Link seems to still work ✌🏻

calstars, Wednesday, 27 December 2017 22:16 (six years ago) link

whoa, crazy list. i had no idea she had performed so many of these songs live (or are they leaked demos?)

flappy bird, Wednesday, 27 December 2017 22:54 (six years ago) link

Thanks Moka!!

kolakube (Ross), Thursday, 28 December 2017 00:04 (six years ago) link

There’s also this kind of charming post that shows how perfectly amateurish Visions and Grimes as a producer was:

http://web.archive.org/web/20120515000000*/actuallygrimes.tumblr.com

Goes to show if you have talent and passion for what you want to achieve you can make a lot with so little.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 28 December 2017 00:36 (six years ago) link

which post in specific? that just directs to the wayback machine.

I am happy to learn that Eevee was her fav Pokemon though. So many awesome Eeveelutions.

how's life, Thursday, 28 December 2017 00:55 (six years ago) link

the reason she gave for not releasing the David-era material was that it was too depressing and she didn't want to tour it

ufo, Thursday, 28 December 2017 01:26 (six years ago) link

Oh sorry wrong link.
I meant this one were she discussed how to make/record music

https://web.archive.org/web/20150831081620/http://actuallygrimes.tumblr.com/post/44357081528/how-to-make-music-for-almost-free-u-should

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 28 December 2017 02:12 (six years ago) link

re: depressing material, it sounds like visions sleep/food deprivation binge was a heavy time too..

can't begrudge her tendency towards lighter material with art angels

kolakube (Ross), Thursday, 28 December 2017 02:37 (six years ago) link

Hmmm might have to try that

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 28 December 2017 03:45 (six years ago) link

Skeptical of any value added by providing finer sampling of her stylistic evolution via the release of 'tweener songs. more fun to embrace the myth of the artistic step function.

Scatperson (ski-ba-bop-ba-dop-whore.) (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 28 December 2017 18:05 (six years ago) link

i need all the information

treeship 2, Thursday, 28 December 2017 18:07 (six years ago) link

there's not enough

treeship 2, Thursday, 28 December 2017 18:08 (six years ago) link

This fan edit of David might be the closest to a studio version we’ll get:

https://m.soundcloud.com/littlemonsteralejandro2/david-fanmade-studio

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 28 December 2017 19:43 (six years ago) link

haha that tumblr post is fantastic

niels, Friday, 29 December 2017 06:10 (six years ago) link

this wasn't bad though I like the tegan and sara original more

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sv1H85AxYiM

akm, Friday, 29 December 2017 22:23 (six years ago) link

speaking of the shift from her "two styles" one could make a case that visions was the intermediary from the extremely depressive, haunting stuff she was releasing pre-visions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBJ-LPPcAqw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vulvMVhDqeU

i love this era of her music too. and the shadow or memory of this sound definitely enriches my appreciation for the aerodynamic sound of art angels. it emerged from the depths.

treeship 2, Sunday, 31 December 2017 13:05 (six years ago) link

Easy to forget also the immense pressure of public/commercial/critical expectations after Visions. Remember the backlash against “Go”? Oy

flappy bird, Sunday, 31 December 2017 17:22 (six years ago) link

three weeks pass...

https://clips.twitch.tv/OilyDistinctPistachioChocolateRain

ufo, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 02:33 (six years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Fuck

. https://t.co/2DJAbbveIh

— Grimes (@Grimezsz) February 15, 2018


i'm not allowed to say but there r people involved in my career who would rather destroy me than build something. indie music is more about egos than money. if u hurt someone's ego, they don't mind forgoing what you are potentially worth to them to take u down

— Grimes (@Grimezsz) February 15, 2018

Moodles, Thursday, 15 February 2018 23:49 (six years ago) link

what the fuck.

how's life, Thursday, 15 February 2018 23:52 (six years ago) link

this would be at 4AD still?

i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Thursday, 15 February 2018 23:53 (six years ago) link

Goddamn wtf

flappy bird, Friday, 16 February 2018 00:15 (six years ago) link

her twitter bio was 'makin beats nu album soon' yesterday and now it's just 'makin beats' too :/

ufo, Friday, 16 February 2018 02:25 (six years ago) link

This is really naive I guess, but I don’t understand why someone like grimes can’t just release music on bandcamp under a pay what you want model. Then just tour a bunch of sold out 10,000 capacity clubs? I suppose it’s proooobably a bit more complicated than that.

i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Friday, 16 February 2018 02:43 (six years ago) link

i imagine she's locked into a contract that prohibits that very thing

hoooyaaargh it's me satan (voodoo chili), Friday, 16 February 2018 02:45 (six years ago) link

Why would they prevent her from releasing an album?

treeship 2, Friday, 16 February 2018 03:47 (six years ago) link

She pissed off someone at the label and is being punished for it. Typical record biz bullshit.

Moodles, Friday, 16 February 2018 04:39 (six years ago) link

My guess is she had a 3 record contract with 4AD and wanted to move to a major and they’re not thrilled

flappy bird, Friday, 16 February 2018 04:58 (six years ago) link

can't she just do an album of acoustic van halen covers to see out her contract

imago, Friday, 16 February 2018 10:30 (six years ago) link

She pissed off someone at the label and is being punished for it. Typical record biz bullshit.

― Moodles, Thursday, February 15, 2018 11:39 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It’s insane that this is a semi-common occurence in the music industry. Isn’t Grimes the biggest star on 4AD’s roster?

treeship 2, Friday, 16 February 2018 12:25 (six years ago) link


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