Haha, yeah, I was going to say I like the DJ stuff because Thom has much better taste in contemporary electronic music than he does in rock music.
― stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 16:36 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, given a choice between, like, Moderat and Fleet Foxes, I'm going to go for his electronic tastes every damn time.
― White Chocolate Cheesecake, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 16:37 (twelve years ago) link
otm
― valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 16:38 (twelve years ago) link
You're not going to get kicked out of the fandom, WCC. I think people are just really defensive because those AFP shows really were amazing and people have great memories of them.
― Melissa W, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 16:46 (twelve years ago) link
does flea actually slap & pop all over the songs, or is that just his '80s-based stereotype?
― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 16:55 (twelve years ago) link
Flea joined Nirvana one time on stage to play trumpet on "Smells like Teen Spirit"
It was bad.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 17:07 (twelve years ago) link
how does slap trumpet even work
― Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 17:09 (twelve years ago) link
It doesn't.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 17:12 (twelve years ago) link
google image search for "slap trumpet"
http://www.thelastmiles.com/gfx/miles-gigs/miles-trumpet-between-legs-italy-gig.jpg
^miles
― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 17:15 (twelve years ago) link
is he... playing the butt trumpet
― Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 17:23 (twelve years ago) link
Flea joined Nirvana one time on stage to play trumpet on "Smells like Teen Spirit"It was bad.
says who?
― billstevejim, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 17:40 (twelve years ago) link
says me, I heard a tape
― Mark G, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 23:47 (twelve years ago) link
Naw it's awesome! He only plays the solo anyway. It does sound like he's constantly dodging stage divers or something
― lost dion/tomita collab (blank), Thursday, 1 March 2012 01:38 (twelve years ago) link
Flea is a really good musician, I'm sure he can play non-popping stuff if he wants to. He was (is?) bassist for reformed Faces
― lost dion/tomita collab (blank), Thursday, 1 March 2012 01:39 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnC8MXYUzN0
― Moka, Thursday, 1 March 2012 01:47 (twelve years ago) link
And now, because I was stating how much I disliked Flea, this is now a thread all about Flea. :-(
I've been reading too many show reports from the front rail, and it's totally infectious, the enthusiasm.
Like, I am over 40 now. I can't do that kind of shit any more. (the last time I was down the front of a general admission gig, I nearly killed my back, I can't physically handle it.) I don't even particularly enjoy live performances any more, except in very limited conditions - if it's seated, if the sound is perfect - which means I pretty much only go to gigs at, like, the South Bank Centre and the Barbican any more.
I can't stand stadium gigs. Even though they haven't announced any UK dates, yet, I know that anywhere RH are going to play are going to be Stadia. I'm not paying £50 to see 5 ants on a stage. This will make me miserable.
AND YET. AND YET. I read these show reports and I just get caught up in a wave of hysteria and I want to go, even though it would be the worst idea ever.
It's the manufacturing of excitement, the shared experience, the fan community, the hysteria. The desire to be part of something, for a connection. It's fandom as religion, and the desire to have, well, a religious experience, even if I know it will be unfulfilling.
― White Chocolate Cheesecake, Thursday, 1 March 2012 09:56 (twelve years ago) link
You know what, I'm not going to anticipate overpriced oversold stadium gigs I will probably hate. I'm going to go to Rough Trade tomorrow and buy several actual physical CDs as fetish objects that I will enjoy over and again, instead.
This is ridiculous and I need to disengage the mania.
― White Chocolate Cheesecake, Thursday, 1 March 2012 09:57 (twelve years ago) link
Either that or it's a serious case of prolapse.
― the feeling is surreal (snoball), Thursday, 1 March 2012 10:08 (twelve years ago) link
I'd be really grateful if ILX could just hold off its usual "LOL @ mental illness popcorn.gif" shenanigans for a moment.
I do have to wonder if obsessive fandom (and engaging in obsessive fandoms / fan communities) is actually good for my mental health. If these places really encourage and feed a kind of mania which triggers thing that I know can lead to illness, due to my propensities and weaknesses. Or if, as I've said before, "obsessive RH fandom" is just the place that I go when my brain is already overloaded and not doing well. (Because their art is so good at capturing that certain OCD rat-run that I call "thoughtworms.")
I know this is a constant process of maintaining a balance between "sanity" and "happiness" and I'm going to choose happiness over sanity every time. But I do wonder if this is encouraging something which I know isn't very healthy for me, and I should withdraw. (even though it is compulsively yummy and fun and there's something really ~amazing~ and endorphin rush about that kind of fandom, even if you end up staying up until 2am unable to sleep because your thoughts are whirring like little planets in orbit.)
I'm gonna go draw for a while until I stop thinking about this.
― White Chocolate Cheesecake, Thursday, 1 March 2012 11:28 (twelve years ago) link
what are you going to draw though? If it's thom then it wont make any difference.
― fuck deathcore and metalcore (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 1 March 2012 11:35 (twelve years ago) link
wish i could draw
― fuck deathcore and metalcore (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 1 March 2012 11:36 (twelve years ago) link
thom playing butt trumpet iirc
― valleys of your mind (mh), Thursday, 1 March 2012 14:24 (twelve years ago) link
Thom's more into keyboard cunnilingus these days, it seems.
― White Chocolate Cheesecake, Thursday, 1 March 2012 14:45 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.soundsxp.com/images/pants-large.jpg
― fuck deathcore and metalcore (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 1 March 2012 15:26 (twelve years ago) link
so the answer to dave Q's question was Thom Yorke afterallhttp://1.bp.blogspot.com/_cL0Lfibqaog/SUa5xOF0ssI/AAAAAAAACXE/UR4bg7Oec2c/s400/loverboy+copy.jpg
― fuck deathcore and metalcore (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 1 March 2012 15:28 (twelve years ago) link
You know who else has a ponytail and red pants (shorts actually)?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/79/The_Simpsons-Jeff_Albertson.png/222px-The_Simpsons-Jeff_Albertson.png
― Moka, Thursday, 1 March 2012 16:53 (twelve years ago) link
hahahahahahaha
― fuck deathcore and metalcore (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 1 March 2012 17:04 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, but Thom is vegan thin! That's mean.
― White Chocolate Cheesecake, Thursday, 1 March 2012 17:07 (twelve years ago) link
let's not be sizeist here, mr. yorke's positive attributes and comic book guy's negative ones are not necessarily linked to their weight or sartorial choices
let's face it, thom in a midriff top was already cited, too
― valleys of your mind (mh), Thursday, 1 March 2012 17:10 (twelve years ago) link
Mmm, Thom's belly has magical powers. All you have to do is mention it, and I start instantly smiling.
― White Chocolate Cheesecake, Thursday, 1 March 2012 17:15 (twelve years ago) link
Me too.
(Hi, btw.)
Wish I could stop being obsessed with Identikit, but I can't.
― Turangalila, Thursday, 1 March 2012 18:33 (twelve years ago) link
Found this on atease. The Resemblance is uncanny.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uWr-Td5H5Ehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFEpQ6iObaM
― Moka, Thursday, 1 March 2012 21:37 (twelve years ago) link
Jonny IS a Rockstar fan - I remember he posted on Deadairspace once about playing Red Dead Redemption, so he might have played GTAIV as well.
― my life is starting over again (Z S), Thursday, 1 March 2012 22:01 (twelve years ago) link
Thom Yorke: I like Grand Theft Auto, though.Jonny Greenwood: Well that's the one, yeah.Interviewer: But if you guys get stuck into that, we won't get a record for 6 years, man, seriously!Thom Yorke: I tell you what, we got a great story about this, it's really boring: We turn up in Miami...Jonny Greenwood: This so freaked me out. We went to Miami, you walk out the hotel, and it's the game. And I know the city only from the game!Thom Yorke: He walked out and was all, [in professor voice] "Hmm, down, down there, that's the shopping mall, and over there..."
― Melissa W, Thursday, 1 March 2012 22:09 (twelve years ago) link
I don't really hear the similarity though.
― Melissa W, Thursday, 1 March 2012 22:12 (twelve years ago) link
LOL, I am just dropping respect points for T Yorke left and right today, I have to stop discovering things about him like this! (OK, I am probably just biased against Rockstar games because the Great Lost Love Of My Life used to/probably still does work there.)
(I do hear the resemblance, it's mostly in the rhythm and the bassline, but it's definitely there.)
― White Chocolate Cheesecake, Thursday, 1 March 2012 22:15 (twelve years ago) link
The beat, the bassline and the overall mood of the first minute is similar in my head. Then the song turns into another beast completely.
Identikit sounds very trip-hop at the beginning (as does the gta song) and when the guitar loop enters halfway in it reminded me of Studio or A Mountain of One... sort of a balearic jam. I wrote it sounded balearic to me (the guitar at least) and they ateasers told me to go to sleep.
― Moka, Thursday, 1 March 2012 22:20 (twelve years ago) link
For reference on what I mean by 'Studio Balearic':
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=po8e8nftgqI
― Moka, Thursday, 1 March 2012 22:23 (twelve years ago) link
Hahahahah LOL come on, erm, the ~other~ secret cheesecakers' forum.
We (and by we, I mean, well, I, but someone did ask) made some random theorising on the "Problematising the Indexicality of the Yorkeian Follicural Register" thread about how Thom's Bjorn Borg headband was prefiguring the prog-meets-house Scando-Balearic voibe of the new material.
(Problem is, you cannot say "Matt DC on a boat" as a genre to anyone outside ILX, it just does not work.)
― White Chocolate Cheesecake, Thursday, 1 March 2012 22:25 (twelve years ago) link
Follicural? Follicular. I don't think even Judith Butler knows what Follicural means.
Hahaha aw I love you! I finally feel like someone gets what I was trying to say. And yes you're right, people on ILX are very open and knowleadgeable on their music styles. At the very least they'll disagree with you but tell you they get where you're coming from.
― Moka, Thursday, 1 March 2012 22:28 (twelve years ago) link
Really glad to know I'm not the only one who was getting a scando-balearic vibe from them.
― Moka, Thursday, 1 March 2012 22:29 (twelve years ago) link
I vow to never return to that other cheesecakers' godforsaken forum.
― Moka, Thursday, 1 March 2012 22:33 (twelve years ago) link
Wow, I completely forgot I owned a Studio album.
It's kind of an A Certain Ratio feel, too, the funk bassline and the atmospheric Factory guitars. Except, well, knowing RH, it's probably not, it's RHCP and GTA. *weeps*
GAH, just to upset me further, I just read that TY's wife's ~favourite band~ is RHCP. And that just made me o_0, like... HOW. Just the taste gap, how anyone could consider that band as a favourite. But then I told myself a nice little story that TY doesn't actually like Flea's bass playing, he just has him in the band to impress his missus, and I could get myself back to a reality I could deal with again.
Why, what happened on that other forum?
― White Chocolate Cheesecake, Thursday, 1 March 2012 22:33 (twelve years ago) link
(It's weird, though, I don't hear All I Need / ROYGBIV at all, probably because one is Minor and the other Major)
― White Chocolate Cheesecake, Thursday, 1 March 2012 22:41 (twelve years ago) link
Nothing really happened on the other forum I just get annoyed by the amount of trolls and negative, unfounded opinions some people have in there. They don't really vibe with me most of the time.
Mmm talking about In Rainbows I get where some of the 'all i need/roygbiv" accusations come from but even moreso I find 'La Ritournelle' as the direct basis for 'Reckoner'.
Also Kashmir's "surfing the warm industry" reminds me a lot of 'jigsaw falling into place". Thet have the same acoustic-rock guitar approach to the main melody, the motorik beat, the deadpan vocal delivery on the verses. Check it out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-441uxB7Zw
― Moka, Thursday, 1 March 2012 22:49 (twelve years ago) link
And in case you haven't heard ritournelle yet:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fUPHfn3J6Q
They have the same lush and vibrant vibe, the loose drums (although reckoner’s are way superior to the ones on ritournelle imho) and the similarities on the jazzy chord progression make for enough similarities to pair both songs in familiar territories.
― Moka, Thursday, 1 March 2012 22:51 (twelve years ago) link
Eh, what? That's so bizarre, I've found it really friendly and sweet and quite accepting. While atease, holy shit, is atease a cesspit of trolls and negative, unfounded opinions. Also, fucking stalkers, which drove me off in the end, but YMMV.
― White Chocolate Cheesecake, Thursday, 1 March 2012 22:53 (twelve years ago) link
Just reading through the thread. The talk about Thom Yorke getting down to U2 just made me think of this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEj8CZJqlpE
Skip to 0:40
― MarkoP, Thursday, 1 March 2012 22:53 (twelve years ago) link
Speaking about RHCP, Reckoner definitely has a Frusciante thing going on in the main guitar melody.
So for me: Ritournelle + Frusciante = Reckoner.
― Moka, Thursday, 1 March 2012 22:54 (twelve years ago) link