Nina Kraviz - Nina Kraviz [2012]

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I don't know much about this chick but this is a really good album. Very deeep.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD_cXE9uxao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GHSRhLWNoU

The Reverend, Monday, 12 March 2012 06:35 (six years ago) Permalink

Wow, phenomenal

"Pain in the Ass" is great too

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 12 March 2012 11:11 (six years ago) Permalink

h: Oh, okay. Cool! Are you still doing your residency in Russia at the club?

NK: No, I haven’t been doing that for almost a year.

h: Okay, I didn’t know. There haven’t been that many interviews with you recently or they weren’t very substantial so I was just trying to figure it out.

NK: No worries, I was just answering that I haven’t been doing it for a year already.

https://halcyonline.com/2011/qa-nina-kraviz/

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 12 March 2012 11:12 (six years ago) Permalink

I don't know, I could just listen to stuff like this all day long. Sounds like 4am at a Moodymann show.

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 12 March 2012 11:32 (six years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOg9bYgTOw8

doesn't that make you want to see her live?

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Monday, 12 March 2012 12:16 (six years ago) Permalink

she popped up in the khodorkovsky documentary entirely unexpectedly (billed as a "dj and dentist", lol). just for half a minute and i think the director was trying to depict her as some moscow party girl who didn't care about ~fighting~ for this ~political prisoner~ but tbh in the very one-sided documentary it was kind of refreshing to see one person who was like "hey khodorkovsky isn't some kind of democratic hero, he was stealing from russia too".

um yeah the new album is okay, maybe a bit understated for me but nice enough, solid three stars, but this from 2009 is her classic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqh4UE4fIJ0

the bass drop at 3.5 mins in >>>>>>>

lex pretend, Monday, 12 March 2012 12:25 (six years ago) Permalink

That one would go really nice with "Hey Hey"

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 12 March 2012 12:34 (six years ago) Permalink

Wow, great!

MikoMcha, Monday, 12 March 2012 13:40 (six years ago) Permalink

i like the album, maybe a bit disappointing after her amazing singles, but its different so i'm still kind of adjusting to it. i appreciate that she didn't just take her best tracks so far and jam them into an album with some other stuff. 'taxi talk' is too short.

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Monday, 12 March 2012 13:47 (six years ago) Permalink

"oh shit, lenny's got another daughter" - me, anytime i see this woman's name

yolo ono (J0rdan S.), Monday, 12 March 2012 13:48 (six years ago) Permalink

looking forward to this record. tho i think i am sort of an outlier b/c the youtubes in the OP sound better to me than her other singles. "ghetto kraviz" is just a jam

akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Monday, 12 March 2012 19:48 (six years ago) Permalink

"oh shit, lenny's got another daughter" - me, anytime i see this woman's name

lol, saw her come up in lex's recommendations and thought the same thing!

MikoMcha, Monday, 12 March 2012 19:56 (six years ago) Permalink

but it's not spelled the same!

lex pretend, Monday, 12 March 2012 20:13 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah, what?

The Reverend, Monday, 12 March 2012 20:38 (six years ago) Permalink

It's already close enough.

MikoMcha, Monday, 12 March 2012 21:22 (six years ago) Permalink

i'm saying that i instinctively read a "t" into Kraviz

3hunn O))) (J0rdan S.), Monday, 12 March 2012 21:42 (six years ago) Permalink

overrated

the late great, Monday, 12 March 2012 22:45 (six years ago) Permalink

Total Thomas Brinkmann vibe to some of this, which i love. thanks for the tip x

jed_, Monday, 12 March 2012 22:57 (six years ago) Permalink

k listened to this and i love it, need to listen more but yes i appreciate the tip as well

akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 00:43 (six years ago) Permalink

this is my new other favorite

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5BEcgbHsI4

The Reverend, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 02:20 (six years ago) Permalink

I love the low key night music vibe of the album

The Reverend, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 02:21 (six years ago) Permalink

yea i think i'm gravitating most towards "taxi talk" and "turn on the radio" atm but that one is another solid cut

akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 06:36 (six years ago) Permalink

god i can't stop listening to this, so gooood

has some of the warmth and subtle detail that appealed to me about the robag wruhme album but with the added bonus of gorgeous vox that make more direct gestures at intimacy. this is def a late night album but it's more like a euphoric late night in someone else's bedroom as opposed to the communal comedown type vibe i get from other late night music

akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 06:57 (six years ago) Permalink

On first listen it put me in mind of Dani Siciliano crossed with... I dunno, Norma Jean Bell? I need to listen to it again though.

Tim F, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 07:27 (six years ago) Permalink

psych otm

The Reverend, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 09:08 (six years ago) Permalink

this needs to be played next to that lee foss track

owenf, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 10:05 (six years ago) Permalink

she is v v pretty btw

⚓ (gr8080), Friday, 16 March 2012 22:27 (six years ago) Permalink

v v v

the late great, Friday, 16 March 2012 22:32 (six years ago) Permalink

It's a rule. You can't mention Nina Kraviz without saying how beautiful she is. Or how she may be fancying Ben Klock. The fanboys getting very hot under the collar. Really liked "I'm Gonna Get You" but none of these are really grabbing me. I saw her play a couple of times last year and she played tougher. The vocals sound a bit Luomo.

mmmm, Saturday, 17 March 2012 08:56 (six years ago) Permalink

Not really feeling this, it's kind of drab.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Monday, 19 March 2012 18:54 (six years ago) Permalink

otm, it's def not sitting at my desk/driving in my car music

⚓ (gr8080), Monday, 19 March 2012 19:39 (six years ago) Permalink

This could never be as drab as Benoit and Sergio or Art Dept

lex pretend, Monday, 19 March 2012 20:13 (six years ago) Permalink

not saying much

the late great, Monday, 19 March 2012 20:14 (six years ago) Permalink

Benoit and Sergio occasionally nod in the direction of a tune. This doesn't

Number None, Monday, 19 March 2012 23:13 (six years ago) Permalink

otm

⚓ (gr8080), Monday, 19 March 2012 23:16 (six years ago) Permalink

b&s backlash make me sad :-(

flopson, Monday, 19 March 2012 23:17 (six years ago) Permalink

Goddam those soulless house music producers with their lack of tunes!

Tuomas, Monday, 19 March 2012 23:25 (six years ago) Permalink

i think this stuff is quite tepid

like the best track on here is a smoothed out version of tantakatan which itself was like a smoothed out version of a radio slave track

the late great, Monday, 19 March 2012 23:33 (six years ago) Permalink

Goddam those soulless house music producers with their lack of tunes!

― Tuomas, Monday, March 19, 2012 4:25 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah, what the hell are these fools talking about? this record is all about sounds for me (including her voice, which i love). i'm not coming into it looking for pop songs.

The Reverend, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 01:31 (six years ago) Permalink

b&s backlash make me sad :-(

― flopson, Monday, March 19, 2012 4:17 PM Bookmark

backlash implies that we liked them in the first place, which NO. FUCK THAT.

The Reverend, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 01:32 (six years ago) Permalink

I knew i'd be brought up on that throwaway tunes comment, but i don't find it this particularly atmospheric or anything either. Seems like this and Voices From The Lake are the two most acclaimed dance albums recently and i find both of them incredibly boring.

Number None, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 01:39 (six years ago) Permalink

Rev I think yr crusade against hipster druggy house doesn't really apply to anything B&S have done in the past 12 months.

They've basically turned into a 2012 equivalent of Justus Kohncke.

I can understand disliking "Where The Freaks Have No Name" et. al. on your stated grounds, of course.

Tim F, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 01:54 (six years ago) Permalink

one man's "boring" is another man's "low key late night music"

maybe ppl are just confused cause it's on rekids? doesn't remind me of anything i've ever heard from that label

akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 02:02 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah, i could see that. rekids stuff is usually more overtly banging for sure.

The Reverend, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 02:08 (six years ago) Permalink

yea, and her RA podcast, other singles etc were a lot different too.

akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 02:10 (six years ago) Permalink

backlash implies that we liked them in the first place, which NO. FUCK THAT.

― The Reverend, Monday, March 19, 2012 9:32 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

we did. i was there. i was one of them.

flopson, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 03:07 (six years ago) Permalink

i can understand not being wowed by the kraviz album cuz it really is very understated, but it works really well at creating mood. there are too many actively annoying elements to benoit & sergio

lex pretend, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 07:32 (six years ago) Permalink

ya idk if i'd call it a 'grower' but it definitely helps to be in the right mood. which, it turns out, i usually am.

couldn't imagine hearing this stuff 'out', it's so intimate and understated. i could imagine someone hating this record if they were sitting around anxiously waiting for something to happen or sweep them off their feet... this isn't 'just' wallpaper but it works really well in the right setting/with the right expectations... i think i gravitate towards records like this tho maybe others don't. also maybe cold rainy pacific northwest winters naturally complement this type of thing

i love b&s but this really is nothing like b&s, can we have that debate elsewhere?

akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 08:19 (six years ago) Permalink

maybe cold rainy pacific northwest winters naturally complement this type of thing

ha, you too?

The Reverend, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 08:23 (six years ago) Permalink

yea this is my second pdx winter and i'm trying to embrace it rather than continuing to hold out for whenever the hell it's supposed to be sunny again

akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 08:49 (six years ago) Permalink

LOL @ this sounding remotely like black leotard front. that would be AMAZING but unfortunately it is not true

akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 07:42 (six years ago) Permalink

This reminds me a bit of Blackdown's eternal crusade against "winebar house".

Tim F, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 07:47 (six years ago) Permalink

also - wtf are "dad drums"? i think i like them

akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 07:57 (six years ago) Permalink

This shit has live sounding drums locked to a house grid.

oh man that is just THE WORST. Live drums and house music is SO DFA

never mention the fact that there is absolutely nothing resembling live drums on this at all

all these 'criticisms' make me want to like this even more than i already do

akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 08:05 (six years ago) Permalink

and yea it is weird how earnest posts about an understated album have inspired so much vitriol.

i feel like i can listen to something on hessle or swamp 81 and think to myself, "i have no idea where or why anyone would listen to this stuff" but that doesn't mean i'm not willing to accept that i might have overlooked smthg or be listening to it in the wrong context and maybe i should just let it slide and post about stuff i actually enjoy

akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 08:13 (six years ago) Permalink

LOL @ this sounding remotely like black leotard front. that would be AMAZING but unfortunately it is not true

― akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Wednesday, March 21, 2012 12:42 AM Bookmark

yeah, really!

The Reverend, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 08:25 (six years ago) Permalink

this is kind of cool. reminds me of kate wax, julia holter, emika and all the other chicks from the arty electro thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WE5uHNoGOHU

cock chirea, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 09:32 (six years ago) Permalink

Sascha Funke vs. Nina Kraviz
http://open.spotify.com/artist/1meuzXhsNqB8rtK4Cc2MUy

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 09:43 (six years ago) Permalink

"vitriol" seems kind of hyperbolic

jimi's just offering a gentle "idgi"

the late great, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 19:21 (six years ago) Permalink

idgi it either but tim's comment about it sounding more or less like a poker flat album from the last 10 years kinda covers any other comments i could add to the thread

the late great, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 19:22 (six years ago) Permalink

i don't hear even any vague similarities between nina kraviz, blondes, john talabot and dfa. also the only people who have heard of nina kraviz are huge dance heads, not indie people

lex pretend, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:01 (six years ago) Permalink

also the only people who have heard of nina kraviz are huge dance heads, not indie people

I played her for Rev in the outloud room one night, which I think was his first time hearing her. I'm neither a dance head or an indie people.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:20 (six years ago) Permalink

neither/nor, rather.

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Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:20 (six years ago) Permalink

you're head people.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:29 (six years ago) Permalink

nina released records on dj jus-ed label, can't get realer house than that.

sisilafami, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:29 (six years ago) Permalink

"it's not house cos i like house", "it's not indie cos i hate indie"... jesus, state of some of you.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:56 (six years ago) Permalink

"it's not indie cos i hate indie"

who said this?

The Reverend, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:05 (six years ago) Permalink

superfluous "not" there

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:09 (six years ago) Permalink

ok, gotcha

The Reverend, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:09 (six years ago) Permalink

I am frequently surprised by the lengths people will go to in order to categorise things together based on their own feelings of love or hate rather than, um, what the music sounds like.

Tim F, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:56 (six years ago) Permalink

This is mega Berlin 2012 DFA tech indie house if ever I saw it.

lmao dude

art dealin' thru the west coast (tpp), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 22:03 (six years ago) Permalink

still gotta hear this album but i like what i've heard from nina kraviz. also she's hot. and hey is she dating ben klock??

she's def popular with teh dance heads.

art dealin' thru the west coast (tpp), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 22:09 (six years ago) Permalink

i don't get the "indie" thing or the dfa comparisons either. haha ok i just relistened to some kalabrese and i don't know what i was remembering because kalabrese is certainly not "jam packed" or maximalist, by and large. there is a lot of overlap with what nina kraviz is doing for sure. it's more interesting to me to figure out why they're different, though, and to my mind they are. damned if i can really explain it. i can also see the comparisons with poker flat but again i've been bored silly by most poker flat stuff i've heard and not this, which despite its surface-level boringness and songs which develop maybe 2mm from where they started still manages to keep me listening (some more than others, obv; i don't really like the ultra-leaden voice on "ghetto kraviz" for example). perhaps one point of distinction between kraviz and somebody like dani siciliano (or kalabrese) is the sense of cheapness to it, for lack of a better word. half thought-out. which is maybe what jimi was getting at. but me, i like cheap if it sounds like this!

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 22:09 (six years ago) Permalink

I am frequently surprised by the lengths people will go to in order to categorise things together based on their own feelings of love or hate rather than, um, what the music sounds like.

i feel like this has been the scourge of dance discussion here and beyond for a long, long time. not that there hasn't been plenty good discussion. really wish it would stop, there is this constant thing everything some people hate is labelled as a word they've already decided they hate and vice versa, regardless of the music.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:23 (six years ago) Permalink

oh come on, makes perfect sense, this music sounds like shit, that other music sounds like shit, qed

the late great, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:52 (six years ago) Permalink

that post was indie nonsense.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Thursday, 22 March 2012 00:12 (six years ago) Permalink

only a soulless dance fan would say something like that

Number None, Thursday, 22 March 2012 00:14 (six years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

on the essential mix...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01h5gtt

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 10:34 (six years ago) Permalink

Loving it so far. Very much making me want to don a pair of shades and sway by a rooftop pool rather than being in the basement shop of a university selling Polo mints.

Blue Collar Retail Assistant (Dwight Yorke), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 11:24 (six years ago) Permalink

Ghetto Kraviz is so ghetto.

MikoMcha, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 11:33 (six years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

awful, gay, indie, dfa, live, drum, old, man, brown, turd, fog, house, music

they loooovin the crut (The Reverend), Sunday, 10 June 2012 07:16 (six years ago) Permalink

Proverb states soulless dance fan gets glass in feet.

Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 10 June 2012 10:45 (six years ago) Permalink

three months pass...

I saw her over the weekend and she only played super-super-super-SUPER-SUUUUUUPEEEEEEEEEERRRR-tracky techno with barely any synth lines or anything and no real obvious breakdowns or buildups and most people (self-included) had no idea what to do with it. Like people would just dance for a little bit and then stop cause there weren't really any cues in the music to ease back here, go nuts here, whatever.

Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Saturday, 6 October 2012 03:02 (six years ago) Permalink

Like it was all pretty banging and stuff but not really in the service of anything.

Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Saturday, 6 October 2012 03:07 (six years ago) Permalink

you probably forgot to do drugs first.

❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Monday, 8 October 2012 06:59 (six years ago) Permalink

I did have someone ask me if I knew where to get any E. But I didn't know. :(

Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Monday, 8 October 2012 08:19 (six years ago) Permalink

only track of hers i know is zlobnii mikrob - representative?

suare, Monday, 8 October 2012 08:26 (six years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

this, which despite its surface-level boringness and songs which develop maybe 2mm from where they started still manages to keep me listening

i don't know, but maybe there's less songcraft getting in the way of the good bits? i hear, like, refrains, and fragments of refrains, and of backing vocals, but less of a heavy effort to sculpt them into house's version of a 'song'

even if it is there somehow.

cuz anyway good refrains or groups of refrain-like parts don't need so much in the way of development

j., Wednesday, 12 February 2014 21:41 (four years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

DJ Kicks mix is sultry and moody and deep and basically what I expected, not hugely thrilling but not boring and definitely cut from the same cloth as her album.

boxedjoy, Thursday, 12 March 2015 01:25 (three years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

Fabric mix is tight!

Everything Moves Towards The Sun (Ross), Friday, 20 January 2017 02:11 (one year ago) Permalink

ten months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUhQV6QBeck

In a slipshod style (Ross), Friday, 8 December 2017 06:34 (ten months ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

tracked down a decently priced copy of her album for REKIDS on cd.
cannot wait to hear it.

mark e, Sunday, 31 December 2017 18:27 (nine months ago) Permalink

Is this the record from 2012 that's self titled

kolakube (Ross), Sunday, 31 December 2017 18:40 (nine months ago) Permalink

yup.
saw it on cd in my local hmv in the week of release and thought i'd get it at some point.
never saw the cd edition again except for £££ via amazon.
however, someone who used to work for the label is on discogs and has a clearly has a couple of copies up for grabs :
https://www.discogs.com/Nina-Kraviz-Nina-Kraviz/master/414521

mark e, Sunday, 31 December 2017 19:08 (nine months ago) Permalink

Absolute classic record. Enjoy!

kolakube (Ross), Sunday, 31 December 2017 19:22 (nine months ago) Permalink

also from the same bloke,
got the radioslave/rekids/mixmag covermount ordered as i never got the mag.
and ...
shhhhh, but a hopefully few extra edits and stuff that are not allowed to be advertised on discogs
cannot wait.

mark e, Sunday, 31 December 2017 20:48 (nine months ago) Permalink

ok, package arrived yesterday.

the standard NK cd album with skinny promo (perfect for the car !)
along with a copy of mixmag with NK on the cover and a covermount cd of a mixtape of unreleased extras aka 'Mister Jones'.
(alongside a few REKIDS extras, but hey i dont want to brag)
blood and sand, it's a good album.

in other news : just found out today that Radio Slave had a proper artist album out recently !
clearly i am no longer on the ball, as i had no idea.

mark e, Thursday, 4 January 2018 22:51 (nine months ago) Permalink

and weirdly, NK is this months cover of Mixmag, with 2 cover variations available.

mark e, Thursday, 4 January 2018 22:53 (nine months ago) Permalink

ty for reminding me about this album

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 5 January 2018 01:29 (nine months ago) Permalink

it's a cool album, i like it

brimstead, Friday, 5 January 2018 01:31 (nine months ago) Permalink


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