List and discuss REALLY BAD Albums By A Legendary Classic Band.... Metal Edition

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The legendary sell out album and well what can you say about it. It's reputation is well deserved as it's fucking awful.

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The only album I'd never heard by them. Put off by the reputation and didn't want to taint my thoughts on one of my fave bands ever.

It's every bit as bad as Aldo warned me. And more.

Really scary thing is that its got a high mark on metal archives ... from power metal fans.

Iron Maiden: Fear of the Dark (excluding title track which, weirdly, rules)
Iron Maiden: all Blaze albums
yuuuuuk
Judas Priest: Ram It Down u_u
Dio: Sacred Heart & synth badness that followed

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I didn't know My Little Jeffy hated Reign in Blood.

lost count of numbers now
so how about

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Ram It Down is not completely terrible.

First instinct was to throw up Load.jpg or Reload.jpg, but that seems far too easy. AG on fire so far though.

we can all agree on St Anger though surely

Ram It Down is completely terrible, I disagree. The cherry on the terrible cake is Johnny B Goode.

Yeah, I loathe Ram It Down. At least Turbo tried to sound ambitious, Ram it Down was Priest on autopilot.

Turbo was weird with all the synth nonsense but still kinda rocked?

Ram It Down was just toiletflush.gif

we can all agree on St Anger though surely

Hated it at first, like it in a strange way now. Death Magnetic is still a pile.

I'm reluctant to post my own suggestions because of the FALSE METAL joeks that will ensue.

It will hurt my feelings.

Really scary thing is that its got a high mark on metal archives ... from power metal fans.

well fuck i ain't heard that candlemass record but now i can't wait to

see Death Magnetic was meh/okay to me. St Anger is pretty much unlistenable to my ears.

JF maybe you could post your suggestions in one big list so we can just give you one FALSE METAL rather than many (ducks)

you should post them, srsly

also i totally enjoy cold lake and st. anger. former is such a strange grab for the commercial that it ends up thoroughly uncommercial? latter is a relentless and entertaining document of four people who can't make a record together (probably have said that on this board somewhere before)?

yeah Frost were too interesting to make a terrible commercial record, Cold Lake has plenty of charms

I still think if St. Anger was edited down to the 3-4 minute songs it should've had, it'd be alright. Not great, but tolerable.

IX Equilibrium was a real stinker.

I like St. Anger because it gave us Some Kind Of Monster.

I like Ram It Down more than Nostradamus, if only because it's half as long and ponderous. Some number of decent songs on both.

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is in then. I'd agree with Death Magnetic but it does have its fans (i.e. not just markers)

ix equilibrium wasn't too bad. i still really dig "an elegy of icaros". obviously a step down though.

I like Cold Lake too. It's not bad if you don't think of it as Celtic Frost.

that's what i say about Load

I was originally going to do the thread as a general genre thread but realised it would be dominated with non-brian beach boys albums and/or be total challopsy.

I guess if I had to choose I'll take challops over non-Brian beach boys.

is this all we can manage?

There's that Entombed album everyone hates but me. I guess Carcass fans would say Swansong.

I'm still working on an expanded list

Ram It Down has two all-time great songs (the title track and "Blood Red Skies"), but otherwise it's basically unlistenable.

Meanwhile, you might be able to find a few ideas here: http://www.decibelmagazine.com/category/justify-your-shitty-taste/

LOL defending Iron Maiden's X-Factor? u_u

I need a shower

I wrote this one: http://www.decibelmagazine.com/featured/justify-your-shitty-taste-megadeths-risk/

born again has it's defenders on ilm

lol chinese democracy. i think we can include that

I had no problem defending The X Factor. Not a great album by any stretch, but about half the songs are good, plus it's better than No Prayer For the Dying.

and for jjj and dan
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what was that Cryptopsy album that had long time fans jumping off bridges?

Chinese Democracy doesn't suck. Bit of a mess, but definitely not REALLY BAD. Born Again is actually good, despite the shitty mix.

which alice cooper album gets the nod here?

X-Factor makes me cry. I hate it. I can't even modify my feelings about it. HATE.

I'm kind of onboard with Sound of White Noise. It's not my favorite, and I still prefer Belladonna but it wasn't horrible. That line of thinking seems more in line with the whether or not Black Album was a terrible album or not for Metallica. In the context of thrash, yes, but in the context of the band mabye no?

Chinese Democracy has maybe 2 slightly listenable songs. but mostly it's overworked garbage and i pretty much pretend that it doesn't exist, that GNR died in a horrible fire after UYI

I guess Carcass fans would say Swansong.

unfortunately swansong is totally fun as hell

what was that Cryptopsy album that had long time fans jumping off bridges?

the unspoken king, which i've listened to but can't remember a thing about other than it was a complete dive into metalcore

ayo sound of white noise is fucking awesome

Chinese Democracy has maybe 2 slightly listenable songs.

Which two? Are they bonus tracks only on your copy?

I said SLIGHTLY

there must be something you hate by a band you love

more than anything i'll end up hating the production of metal from the last ten years. in the red wall of screeeee that makes me want to rip my ears off. and definitely make me never want to play the album again. which is sad. there is nothing i hate more about modern music than not being able to turn a cd up LOUD without massive distortion. and not the good kind of distortion. whoever "remastered" reign in blood and south of heaven should be shot and then hanged and then boiled and then thrown out a window and then run over with a truck and then thrown in the dump and then picked apart by birds and then the regurgitated bird pieces should be put in a blender and made into smoothies and then drunk by the record label execs who let those CDs be put out and bought by the public.

i feel the same with that drum trigger typewriter-core nonsense

also scott has been watching too much Itchy & Scratchy

but a band i LOVE. a metal band? i was kinda disappointed by point of entry when it came out. i dunno, i'm kinda picky about what i buy. most of the bands i like never put out anything that bad. i never listened to anthrax past among the living. i usually wasn't around for the inevitable decline of most bands. its not like i was gonna keep buying overkill and exodus albums my entire life.

i think it happened with me more with punk/hardcore. still kinda can't forgive 7 seconds for new wind. anyone ever hear the kevin seconds band Acid? grunge band. oh man so terrible. t.s.o.l. they did it. discharge. though i would probably dig discharge metal more now than i did then. youth brigade when they changed their name to brigade. oof, that is tough stuff to listen to.

i was the punk fan in the 80's who had NO problem whatsover with the metal moves. i applauded. for the most part. but some bands should have just broken up. those channel 3 records where they play like bad hard rock. what the hell were those things. airborne! what a terrible record.

i really like the last Blitz album though. controversial opinion! its sounds like the cult. and sometimes like the jesus & mary chain or some other goth band. came out in 1989. its for goth skinheads. there must be a couple.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yryn-70ZgjI

scott otm re youth brigade vs brigade. really, really bad.

did any punk bands go the hair metal or aor route?
i dont mean that Jean Beauvoir guy who formed Crown of Thorns. I mean actually kept the same band name but made hair metal/aor?

t.s.o.l. tried.

a former member of minor threat gave it a shot.

t.s.o.l. were always kinda the odd man out anyway cuz they courted the goth/cali horror rock crowd early on.

reinkaos rules.

it never ruled for me. i'm still just trying to think of records i HATED by bands i loved. if the best i can come up with is 7 seconds...and i never actually loved 7 seconds. but i enjoyed their early work.

i did love that youth brigade album sooooooo much back whenever that came out. still one of my favorite albums of all time.

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serpent saints by entombed i thought was really bad except for the title track. but how much do i expect from them at this late date anyway? not a whole helluva lot. moonspell have put out some clunkers. i like their early records a bunch. they are one of those bands constantly doing the "return to form" thing with every album. on the other hand, i really liked that sepultura Dante XXI album WAY more than i thought i would ever like a sepultura album in the 21st century. i never even thought i'd be playing a sepultura album in the 21st century.

i think whiney missed out something

i liked kid a when it came out. probably the only radiohead album i've ever played all the way through. they never did anything better than "creep" anyway. a little of that dude's voice goes a long long long way.

Dante XXI was really surprisingly good. And everyone shitting on Chinese Democracy upthread can lick the bag.

My nominee for this thread is Gorguts' Obscura. Man, I do not get that record at all. I like death metal, I like noisy free jazz, and I like prog, but when you swirl 'em all together sometimes you just get a big puddle of runny musical shit, and that's Obscura.

no way, it's cool. its ilx canon too. even the non-metal people love it. for all the reasons you stated. except for the shit part. i like all their albums a bunch.

yeah ive seen lots of ilxors go crazy over that album.

I tried to listen to it a bunch of times, 'cause people whose opinions I respected liked it a lot, but it does nothing for me.

Roots?

Bloody Roots?

Y&T Down For The Count

Two words: Summertime Girls

that last The Haunted record. I was down with everything they did up until that one. But man, it was a big pile of not care on the part of everybody.

if we're talking punk then those comeback Descendents albums break my heart

feel like Everything Sucks is p well-regarded in the core of the band's fanbase, the one after that maybe not so much

I quite like New Wind tbh. Was all ready to hate it the first time I listened to it but I don't see it as sounding a whole lot different from the album before it. Now the albums after it aren't up to much and I have never listened to any other Kevin Seconds bands. They're playing London on my birthday this year.

I thought the 3rd Blitz album was terrible but I do really like the synth-post-punk 2nd album.

I suspect I'm alone on this one but I really don't like I Against I...

you are utterly and totally alone.

but maybe i would like new wind now! who knows?

I guess Carcass fans would say Swansong.

This one wouldn't.

the problem with Swansong is that the style of music totally doesn't go with the lyrics, which lost their medical encyclopedia flair and started embracing more mainstream concerns. some killer songs on there though.

I quite like Cold Lake, myself.

swansong just suffers a LOT in comparison with everything that came before it. its not terrible, its just that the albums before it were amazing.

people called heartwork a sellout at the time lol

^ yeah Spinoza Ray Prozak idiots sure

So I just listened to Cold Lake for the first time, verdict: it's not that bad at all! For all the bile spewed about this album I was expecting it to sound like Bon Jovi or Warrant or something. People talk about it like it's hair metal, I'm guessing maybe because of some publicity photos from that time?

cold lake is definitely not bad

years ago i nearly pitched a piece ranking a bunch of metal “sellout” records and did a little research for it ahead of time. iirc the unspoken king is abominable

Cold Lake is no Look What The Cat Dragged In, but it isn’t very good either.

Morbid Angel Illud Divinum Insanus, although I guess not that many people are really bothered this late in their career.

Gorefest Erase and Napalm Death Fear Emptiness Despair were awful. I hated Venom’s Calm Before The Storm at the time, although I haven’t heard that thing ever again.

Anyone remember Helloween Pink Bubbles Go Ape and Chameleon? Nobody liked those.

Oh yeah, another real stinker: Accept Eat The Heat.

counterpoint, Cold Lake is bad.

Helloween's wilderness years are the weirdest btw

Gorefest Erase

r u sure this is the album you meant?!!!

Yeah it's a terrible record, especially the vocals, and the riffs are so lame. Listen to it back to back with False, it's tragic.