― Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 23 September 2002 06:15 (twenty-one years ago) link
I do smell a large rat re: Bobby G tho - he doesn't half talk shite and seems to hook onto "trendy" causes without any genuine-sounding justification.
[but, one of his daft proclamations did elecit my first ever published letter in Melody Maker back in 1992, so maybe I should be thanking him for his guileless motormouthery...]
― Charlie (Charlie), Monday, 23 September 2002 06:31 (twenty-one years ago) link
― gazuga, Monday, 23 September 2002 06:41 (twenty-one years ago) link
― gareth (gareth), Monday, 23 September 2002 07:50 (twenty-one years ago) link
'This is terrible!' said one of the Bobby Gillespies, pointing to the fact that the clothes were in the water.
'How beautiful!' exclaimed the second Bobby Gillespie, pointing at the bird.
And the third continued to swim, since he was there to swim and not to make value judgements.
― Momus (Momus), Monday, 23 September 2002 07:53 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tom (Groke), Monday, 23 September 2002 08:33 (twenty-one years ago) link
I liked the weedy, hippie jangleshit. I put up with the endless stoner Stones jams. I LOVED the freeform psychedelic house music. I loved the acerbic post-come-down speed jitter discopunk even more.
Bobby G is of course my perfect man, and someday he will marry me and take away to his Battersea Dogs Home for lost great guitarists from the late 80s. The end!
― kate, Monday, 23 September 2002 09:45 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 23 September 2002 09:49 (twenty-one years ago) link
Yes, I am going to sit and this thread and shoot down every single of one of you that tries to say bad things about my beloved Bobby G. Or maybe I'll just spread a giant net across the New North Road until Bobby G comes cycling by, kidnap him and sit him down in front of this computer to answer them himself!
― kate, Monday, 23 September 2002 09:53 (twenty-one years ago) link
yes please. I'd love to insult him myself.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 23 September 2002 10:02 (twenty-one years ago) link
Recently saw them for the 13th time in 15 years and still very fine.
The Actual song Screamadelica on the Dixie Narco 12" is the best thing ever.
― tigerclawskank, Monday, 23 September 2002 10:05 (twenty-one years ago) link
― ghostly wilbur, Monday, 23 September 2002 10:10 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Bobby Gee, Monday, 23 September 2002 10:10 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 23 September 2002 10:13 (twenty-one years ago) link
OK how much do i have to pay for the next flight to Dublin?
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 23 September 2002 10:16 (twenty-one years ago) link
As the frazzled pop pioneers Bobby G seems to think that they are - DUD.
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 23 September 2002 10:27 (twenty-one years ago) link
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Monday, 23 September 2002 10:46 (twenty-one years ago) link
Well, they're not the ultimate band. I like 'em a lot though - Vanishing Point, XTRMNTR and Screamadelica are all ace. People complain that they're only as good as whoever is producing them, but I honestly don't care how much influence their producers have if the end result is going to be a great record.
― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Monday, 23 September 2002 11:23 (twenty-one years ago) link
Hey, you're mean.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 23 September 2002 12:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Monday, 23 September 2002 12:01 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 23 September 2002 12:26 (twenty-one years ago) link
Absolutely. I don't think anyone takes Bobby G and his (frankly Gallagher-esque) ranting too seriously. But most of the music is intoxicating enough to make me forget this.
― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Monday, 23 September 2002 12:36 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 23 September 2002 12:38 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Monday, 23 September 2002 13:01 (twenty-one years ago) link
In the meantime, love 'em, from indie jangle onwards. Still think they did the worst gig I've ever seen in '94 though.
― Rob M, Monday, 23 September 2002 13:06 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 23 September 2002 13:10 (twenty-one years ago) link
― bobby gee, Monday, 23 September 2002 13:12 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 23 September 2002 13:17 (twenty-one years ago) link
― blueski, Monday, 23 September 2002 16:23 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Monday, 23 September 2002 17:51 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Clarke B., Monday, 23 September 2002 18:14 (twenty-one years ago) link
"Rocks" was a guaranteed floor-filler at Cafe Bleu.
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― felicity (felicity), Monday, 23 September 2002 19:37 (twenty-one years ago) link
― N0RM4N PH4Y, Monday, 23 September 2002 19:47 (twenty-one years ago) link
― N0RM4N PH4Y, Monday, 23 September 2002 19:50 (twenty-one years ago) link
― felicity (felicity), Monday, 23 September 2002 20:01 (twenty-one years ago) link
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Monday, 23 September 2002 23:03 (twenty-one years ago) link
― keith (keithmcl), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 00:36 (twenty-one years ago) link
― paul b, Tuesday, 24 September 2002 21:16 (twenty-one years ago) link
Reader:"A few years ago i blagged a ticket to an icelandic music festival, travelling with primal scream and prodigy. on a day off, after taking a coach up a very steep mountain road to a glacier, you threw an embarrassingly girly fit, refused to travel down with the rest of us, and demanded a hellicopter. remember?"
Bobby G:"haha! Right, what happened was it took hours to get up there and the whole time I thought the bus was going to topple over the edge, and i was really cold too. when we got to the top, i just went 'get me fucking out of here'. and this guy put me in a jeep and drove me back at 90mph - that was really exciting, like being in some crazy road movie. as for demanding the hellicopter, yeah i probably did. Hey, that's fair enough. I'm a lead singer in a fucking rock and roll band! Why not?"
I love the way he tries to regain some macho pride by saying "that was really exciting, like being in some crazy road movie". Bobby gillespie: man of the people, indeed.
― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Saturday, 1 March 2003 21:41 (twenty-one years ago) link
the music, on the other hand...
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 1 March 2003 21:48 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 1 March 2003 21:49 (twenty-one years ago) link
interviews with bobby are funny bcz he's a bit of a fule!
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 1 March 2003 21:51 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 1 March 2003 22:10 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 1 March 2003 22:12 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dave M. (rotten03), Saturday, 1 March 2003 22:21 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 1 March 2003 22:33 (twenty-one years ago) link
― dave q, Sunday, 2 March 2003 10:38 (twenty-one years ago) link
yeah I'm into hearing this. But far as I can tell, Big Jet Plane, Sad & Blue, I'll Be There for You (left out above?), Everybody Needs Somebody - these are all Tom Dowd versions on the original anyway.
In other words, the good tracks on the original are the remixed ones.
― everything, Monday, 20 August 2018 20:24 (five years ago) link
Their inner punks got the better of them so they brought in the Black Crowes' producer.
― everything, Monday, 20 August 2018 20:36 (five years ago) link
the Ardent tracks produced by Weatherall on Dixie-Narco are better than the Ardent tracks produced by Dowd, but tbf the band weren't 94% smacked out of their minds the first time around
― 16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Monday, 20 August 2018 20:54 (five years ago) link
This was the era i recall they were called 'Dance Traitors'.
― piscesx, Monday, 20 August 2018 20:55 (five years ago) link
Dixie Narco tracks are great
― Οὖτις, Monday, 20 August 2018 21:02 (five years ago) link
This was the era i recall they were called 'Dance Traitors'.― piscesx, Monday, August 20, 2018 8:55 PM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― piscesx, Monday, August 20, 2018 8:55 PM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yeah, I remember reviews of this being not particularly kind. It's depressing that 'Rocks' was such a big hit for them - it's not really representative of what this band is best at, and if that was someone's first exposure to the band, they could be forgiven for getting the wrong idea. Fans of the band from the earliest material may have been a little less surprised at the style they adopted, and the Screamadelica fans were definitely cold on the album.
Also, this was the first album after that tour with Depeche Mode wasn't it? Or were they touring on this LP at the time?
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 20 August 2018 21:16 (five years ago) link
Alternative press release: "Desperate, they returned to the studio where they produced the only track that had any impact in the US but were so half-assed owing to them being smacked-out that the record label (Sony having controlling share of Creation by then) farmed them out to a bunch of remixers and the final record was unliked and re-releasing it now would be a waste of time and money. So here's this."
― everything, Monday, 20 August 2018 21:20 (five years ago) link
xpost -- They opened the second US go round of that Depeche tour cycle, in 1994, so they were touring the album.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 20 August 2018 21:22 (five years ago) link
Ah yeah, that's right! For some reason I'd got it into my head that the LP was released in the back half of '94, rather than at the beginning.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 20 August 2018 21:33 (five years ago) link
Primal Scream at their messiest meets Depeche Mode at their messiest.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 20 August 2018 21:38 (five years ago) link
And to top it all off the opening act for them both was Stabbing Westward
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 20 August 2018 21:40 (five years ago) link
One of the bios of the time - possibly Grant Fleming's - tells of Duffy not being in his room the morning after a show, and the tour manager's panic -- nobody had been with him the night before, no-one knew what locals may have led him "astray" - and having to give up and get the rest of the band on to the next town.
Where Duffy was already at the venue, having crawled inside a riser and passed out after playing, remaining asleep not only through Depeche Mode's set, but also being packed up by Depeche's crew, shipped through the night, and arising well-rested when roadies unpacked him at bump-in.
― 16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Monday, 20 August 2018 22:13 (five years ago) link
Funnily enough the Wombles were at their messiest at the same time.
― Scottish Country Twerking (Tom D.), Monday, 20 August 2018 23:24 (five years ago) link
I still haven't heard the original Memphis recordings of Give Out But Don't Give Up yet, but I listened to the version as released in 1994 last night and - while it's no Screamadelica, Vanishing Point or XTRMNTR, and it sounds like a very confused record - I thought that there's actually quite a lot that's enjoyable about the record. I mustn't have heard the record for well over a decade or two.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 13:46 (four years ago) link
lol these original Memphis recordings are kind of a hilarious nothingburger. Like yeah you can see what they were going for but they really just couldn't quite do it. Lots of farting about doing half-assed covers not particularly well, and the "original versions" are mostly just super-cleanly recorded/stripped down arrangements without all the (often bad) bells and whistles stuck on after the fact.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 15:47 (four years ago) link
I do have a morbid fascination with this album and find it kinda funny/entertaining how badly they fucked this up - they had a budget, tons of great collaborators, a pretty good (if muddled) idea, a great studio to work in, but they couldn't get the songs and performances together.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 15:59 (four years ago) link
Your problem is you don't like black music.
― Let them eat Pfifferlinge an Schneckensauce (Tom D.), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 16:04 (four years ago) link
o rly
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 16:23 (four years ago) link
You'd get it if you followed sports especially basketball.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 16:26 (four years ago) link
(xp) That's the reason Bob gave why UK rock critics didn't like the album, so it must be true.
― Let them eat Pfifferlinge an Schneckensauce (Tom D.), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 16:35 (four years ago) link
our wee Boaby wouldna lie to us now
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 16:36 (four years ago) link
pls let’s not talk about our wee boabies itt, this is a family thread
― Is it true the star Beetle Juice is going to explode in 2012 (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 16:52 (four years ago) link
Are the spoken word bits on "Kill All Hippies" a sample from somewhere?
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 20 March 2020 20:06 (four years ago) link
Out of the Blue dir. Dennis Hopper 1980
― Οὖτις, Friday, 20 March 2020 20:07 (four years ago) link
p weird, bleak movie, sort of a hippie meditation on their generational failings and punk as the response
― Οὖτις, Friday, 20 March 2020 20:10 (four years ago) link
I fucking love that track
― Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 20 March 2020 20:38 (four years ago) link
so good
― Οὖτις, Friday, 20 March 2020 20:42 (four years ago) link
I have just discovered "XTRMNTR" today and I'm super impressed.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 20 March 2020 21:29 (four years ago) link
! probably their best record
― Οὖτις, Friday, 20 March 2020 21:44 (four years ago) link
‘shoot speed kill light’ is so good
― uncle-knower is coming for you (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 20 March 2020 21:46 (four years ago) link
It is. I literally just heard Screamadelica two weeks ago and have known XTRMNTR for twenty years. It’s a disorienting thing.
― Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 21 March 2020 03:59 (four years ago) link
Wow. I’ve always thought of XTRMNTR as the inverse of Screamadelica. They’re structured very similarly.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, 21 March 2020 11:24 (four years ago) link
Agreed. From multiple mixes of the same song to radical remixes of tunes from the last record.
― Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 21 March 2020 14:19 (four years ago) link
Bobby's Insta always delivers: https://www.instagram.com/primalscreamofficial/
― fetter, Saturday, 21 March 2020 15:59 (four years ago) link
https://www.facebook.com/ThurstonMooreOfficial/photos/a.164674653592590/3598726446854043/?type=3 (hope this works)
― Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Sunday, 11 October 2020 16:43 (three years ago) link
Damn. It’s a funny photo!
― Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Sunday, 11 October 2020 16:44 (three years ago) link
https://imgur.com/gallery/rlmYUzr
― Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Sunday, 11 October 2020 17:08 (three years ago) link
Ugh, sorry
― Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Sunday, 11 October 2020 17:09 (three years ago) link
You can't embed a web page, it has to be an image https://i.imgur.com/Os99C7S.jpg
Yo Bobby G!!!!!!!!🤘🔥❤️@primalscreamofficial Witnessed blinding gig last nite by @thurstonmoore58 @cafeotodalston TM & James Shredwards straffing on twin guitar sonic attack whilst our darling @googoogiegoo anchored the sound w/ stone solid bass rhythms allowing the boys to fly around her ( sonically speaking ! ) freely safe in the knowledge they had a safe place to land again after their psyche zonked astral ( guitar ) adventure's - all needle frequency angular solos spiralling into hypnotic drones which sucked out our skulls and spewed out our brains and it felt real good, lemme tell you people. It was a Zoom only type affair so only fifteen of us lucky ones got to see it in the flesh. Such a blast to see a proper r & r band play again and it sure did blast away de ol' lockdown blues. 🎸⭐️🎸 Photograph by Brother @jamesendeacott
― Covidiots from UHF (sic), Sunday, 11 October 2020 18:13 (three years ago) link
pic has got a lot of "day release from Monster Mansion" energy.
― calzino, Sunday, 11 October 2020 18:47 (three years ago) link
Hilarious
Siri show me 'an almost transcendental lack of self-awareness' please. (From Bobby Gillespie's book). pic.twitter.com/EB0tGFmc7O— ⚫Neil Kulkarni (@KaptainKulk) May 13, 2022
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 14 May 2022 10:49 (one year ago) link
He's beyond parody but I'm going to keep on trying.
― Doodles Diamond (Tom D.), Saturday, 14 May 2022 12:21 (one year ago) link
lol I think all the music hacks who encouraged him for decades should bear some responsibility for his condition. Someone from literature-twitter pointed out that the Kipling quote is wrong!
― calzino, Saturday, 14 May 2022 12:38 (one year ago) link
All Boaby knows about Kipling is that he makes exceedingly good cakes.
― Doodles Diamond (Tom D.), Saturday, 14 May 2022 12:53 (one year ago) link
That truly is something else.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 14 May 2022 14:51 (one year ago) link
Really sad to read how they treated Martin Duffy
Primal Scream really don’t come out well from this. https://t.co/9GZGirdgiT— Michael Hann (@MichaelAHann) June 7, 2023
― Agnes, Agatha, Germaine and Jack (Willl), Thursday, 8 June 2023 04:37 (nine months ago) link
Not sure how that double posted
― Agnes, Agatha, Germaine and Jack (Willl), Thursday, 8 June 2023 04:38 (nine months ago) link
why was this pdf posted to this particular site? (dafts...)????
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 8 June 2023 08:18 (nine months ago) link