35 and buying at least 4 'cutting edgers' a week

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I don't want kids. Neither does my missus and after 12 years, i dunno, it looks unlikely
I tried playing golf, squash and badminton. I'm not gone on gardening.I hate dinner parties.
The last clutch of four was Cursive, fila brazillia,Queens of the stone Age and Pixies 'surfer rosa/pilgrim' cd.
The missus and I 'dig' philistines jr, D-plan, Grifters and lite coffee table shit like BT and LTJ Bukem.

Anybody got any advice or handy tips, cos I'm starting to feel a touch isolated as I spring into my late 30s.(the missus is 41).

Anybody out there fancy joining a Hardcore punk/ 'dance' band? Sorta Aphex twin meets Minor Threat.

― Cardiac Failure, Tuesday, 24 September 2002 22:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Check out Dalek (with umlauts on the a) - brilliant experimental hip hop with Faust influences out on Ipecac

― Marinaorgan (Marina Organ), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 22:13 (twenty-three years ago)

kaito - special life

― jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 22:26 (twenty-three years ago)

36. Neither of us want (or even like) kids. Our last three CDs were Kinski's Be Gentle With The Warm Turtle, the new Acid Mothers Temple 3-CD set, and the soundtrack to the movie CQ,

― Chris Barrus (xibalba), Wednesday, 25 September 2002 00:38 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm almost 39,the wife's just 38,the kid's gonna be 3 in January,and today I bought Beck's Sea Change,Underworld's A Hundred Days Off,Caural's Stars On My Ceiling,Peter Gabriel's Up,and the Weezer EP The Lion And The Witch.A mainstream music kind of day...

― dek1, Wednesday, 25 September 2002 01:23 (twenty-three years ago)

You know, until I got with you folks, I never knew that thirty-something was considered old.

― Christine "Green Leafy Dragon" Indigo (cindigo), Wednesday, 25 September 2002 01:25 (twenty-three years ago)

don't trust anyone over 30!!

― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 25 September 2002 01:29 (twenty-three years ago)

I'll be 35 in November... it better not be old! Since I was so "cutting edge" in my youth (heh), I'm finding it daring and rewarding to purchase mainstream releases.

― Sean (Sean), Wednesday, 25 September 2002 01:42 (twenty-three years ago)

You'll never be old, Sean. That smile keeps you young. :-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 25 September 2002 01:44 (twenty-three years ago)

Dear ILM,

I'm 39 and my girlfriend will be next week too. She has a daughter who's 16....

Our recent CD purchases have included the 2 new Flaming Lips retrospectives, The Music, Soundtrack Of Our Lives, Polyphonic Spree, The Breeders, Roddy Frame, The Bees, The Coral and Chumbawamba.

In the last few months we've been to see Tindersticks, The Damned and Penetration as well as going to Reading Festival

My girlfriend's daughter has declined to attend any of these events with us and believes everything I listen to is "weird" - she prefers Queen, The Carpenters, Texas, Alanis Morisette, Steps and the soundtrack to Moulin Rouge.

Where have we gone wrong?!? ;~)

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 25 September 2002 06:51 (twenty-three years ago)

Flaming Lips retrospectives??? details, STAT!

― Charlie (Charlie), Wednesday, 25 September 2002 07:01 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm 38 and have been widowed for over a year now.

I could say that music is one way in which I can remain attached to the world, but the reality is that Church of Me would have happened sooner or later anyway. Job dissatisfaction has to be addressed, whatever the other circumstances.

Had things gone as they were supposed to, I probably would have been a father by now. How this would have affected my attitude to music is something only the above posters and Dr C can answer.

Jess, don't you trust me? ;-)

― Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 25 September 2002 07:11 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't know if having children has affected my attitute to music at all. It's great talking to them about what I'm listening to, watching TOTP with them, but I don't know if it's changed anything.
I don't see why getting older makes much difference other than in practical, quantitative ways - obv having to fit music in around work, family and other responsibilities these days. Most of my closest friends who are around my age are still buying as much music as ever, discovering new music and playing in bands.

Stewart - are you from Reading, or were you around Reading in the early 80's? Someone of your name was in a band (which I can't remember the name of) around about the same time that I was playing in bands around there.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 25 September 2002 07:36 (twenty-three years ago)

"Flaming Lips retrospectives??? details, STAT!"

Finally The Punk Rocker Are Taking Acid (Flaming Lips / Hear It Is / Oh My Gawd / Telepathic Surgery all compressed onto 3 CD's with lots and lots of luvverylu bonus tracks) and The Day They Shot A Hole In The Jesus Egg (In A Priest Driven Ambulance + demos, outtakes etc. etc. spread out luxuriously over 2 CD's)

"Stewart - are you from Reading, or were you around Reading in the early 80's? Someone of your name was in a band (which I can't remember the name of) around about the same time that I was playing in bands around there."

I am the same - if you remember me as being in a band in the early '80's it was almost certainly West One (please don't let it be Sub-Active, please don't let it be Sub-Active, please don't let it be Sub-Active). Which band were you in?

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 25 September 2002 08:31 (twenty-three years ago)

West One rings a bell, although I never saw you. But I'm pretty certain I saw Sub-Active (ha!) in the lounge bar at the Univ. I remember talking to you at local band gigs from time to time. I was in A Nation Mourns - we played the Univ a lot and Carribean Club, Out of Town, etc etc. I doubt you'll remember us as it's a long time ago-I was the very tall guitarist. We had a bloke who looked like a crazed Woody Allen on vocals, and various keyboard players, including a bloke who used to carry his keyboard around with him onstage and later a girl with blonde hair who often used to sit on the floor. We did a few recds and were on that local bands comp 'Too Loud to Scream'. ANM have recently reformed after 15 yrs, as have Fractured who were also playing around Reading at that time. I was also good mates with Emotional Jacuzzi who came along a bit later 1985-ish.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 25 September 2002 08:48 (twenty-three years ago)

I certainly remember the name A Nation Mourns but I'm afraid that's as far as it goes.... a combination of memory fading with age and the fact that I seem to have spent most of the mid 80's out of my brain one way or another!

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 25 September 2002 09:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm 34 and the last four CDs I bought were the new ones by Oasis and Coldplay and two jazz albums. They're on my coffee table right now.

Oh dear, I think I might have to retire from this forum.

― Mike (mratford), Saturday, 28 September 2002 16:15 (twenty-three years ago)

I am 43 and I really dig the with it sounds you young people listen to. Those White Strokes of yours have a really good beat. Groovy!

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 28 September 2002 16:27 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm 84 this year, in the first throes of senile dementia, and so far this week I've bought the new Beck, Ms Dynamite and some Brazilian electronica. Don't you give me 'cutting edge'! I still get to around two clubs a month and I'm old enough to be your grandpa!

― Daniel (dancity), Saturday, 28 September 2002 16:35 (twenty-three years ago)

It's the Mojo letters page!

― david h (david h), Saturday, 28 September 2002 16:38 (twenty-three years ago)

that's cruel mista howie...

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 28 September 2002 16:42 (twenty-three years ago)

if i catch you kids on my lawn one more time i'm going to sell you into slavery or whatever it's called these days!!

― mark s (mark s), Saturday, 28 September 2002 17:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"mcdonalds"

― jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 28 September 2002 17:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"mechanically separated man-ho"

― mark s (mark s), Saturday, 28 September 2002 17:01 (twenty-three years ago)

the philistines jr are great, and they sing about their family. So, like have some kids or something.

― jel -- (jel), Saturday, 28 September 2002 17:05 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm 38 but I'm the rebellious one in our office. I went to see The Music on friday.

― Marinaorgan (Marina Organ), Saturday, 28 September 2002 23:05 (twenty-three years ago)

I apologize if this sounds snarky, but are the Music that rebellious? Or is this an implicit commentary on the rest of your office?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 28 September 2002 23:43 (twenty-three years ago)

I am 39 and feel like 40 already. This must be the hardest year in a man's live. Psychologically I mean. I'd like to be joking but I am not.

But I amaze myself that I still get crazy about pop music. Last time it happened was last week. The new Montgolfier Brothers The World Is Flat is too beautiful to be from this world. Imagine Nick Drake having lived a little longer and singing about his first love story fading into everyday life routine. And the music is so light and airy. In a melancholic way of course.

― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Monday, 7 October 2002 13:38 (twenty-three years ago)

I never buy records to make a *statement* (which seems to be the case when you try to *prove* sth, like you're still *in touch*). Then again I am 28 years old... Maybe it'll be different when I am older.

― nathalie (nathalie), Monday, 7 October 2002 14:31 (twenty-three years ago)

I think I'm 34. As luck would have it, the last CD I bought was (Something) Inna Town - The Xterminator Sound by Philip 'Fatis' Burrell or something like that - mid to late nineties ragga with no rude bits.

The children I know are much better than any of my CDs.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 7 October 2002 14:46 (twenty-three years ago)

four years pass...

Revive. (I am amazed at the relative lack of snark on this thread, even from likely candidates for such.)

― Rockist Scientist, Hippopoptimist (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 00:45 (nineteen years ago)

Even at the time I was surprised.

― Rockist Scientist, Hippopoptimist (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 00:46 (nineteen years ago)

That'll now change. (I am 35.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 00:49 (nineteen years ago)

In elf years?

― Rockist Scientist, Hippopoptimist (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 00:50 (nineteen years ago)

i plan on being dead and buried (or at least disposed of) by 35, so it's kind of a moot issue

― acid waffle house (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 00:53 (nineteen years ago)

cool kin i have all yer grimetech rekkerds?

― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 00:55 (nineteen years ago)

i already put them in a cardboard box when i last moved marked "free to a good home"

― acid waffle house (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 00:56 (nineteen years ago)

dam yoo yoo deserve to go

― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 00:59 (nineteen years ago)

that dude who started the thread sez "missus" 3 times in one post. makes me gag a little. that's all the snark i got though! mostly cuz i ain't reading the rest.

― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 01:00 (nineteen years ago)

Check out Dalek (with umlauts on the a) - brilliant experimental hip hop with Faust influences out on Ipecac

the second post is also almost too perfect to be real

― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 01:06 (nineteen years ago)

had they not actually recorded music together at that time?

― jaxon (jaxon), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 01:16 (nineteen years ago)

Their record together was still two years away.

― Mark (MarkR), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 01:33 (nineteen years ago)

Change buy to "download" and week to "day" and you've got the revived thread up and running. (and change 4 to 8, while you're at it).

― Saxby D. Elder (Saxby D. Elder), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 02:02 (nineteen years ago)

silly question, but can anyone actually listen to that much music? How do you buy 250 minutes of music a week and digest any of it?

― Disco Nihilist (mjt), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 02:54 (nineteen years ago)

Depends on the job, in part. (Then again, it's also a matter of priorities -- in my case, music and books constantly, movies every so often, TV never. And that's not counting keeping in touch with/hanging around with friends and having a life.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 03:02 (nineteen years ago)

I love this thread's title though. And I am older than 35.

― Mark (MarkR), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 04:02 (nineteen years ago)

"How do you buy 250 minutes of music a week and digest any of it?"

how does anyone do anything? practice! i mean i've probably listened to 250 minutes of music in the last 250 minutes and i heard it pretty good! in fact, it sounded wonderful.

― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 04:07 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, same here! What well-trained characters we are.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 04:10 (nineteen years ago)

How do you buy 250 minutes of music a week and digest any of it?

the answer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LvPDaFBALM

― the table is the table (treesessplode), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 04:11 (nineteen years ago)

if yknowhamean.

― the table is the table (treesessplode), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 04:12 (nineteen years ago)

See, I go for lots of TV too, but no friends, no life. It's just my formula, but it seems to work also. Mix and match as you see fit. (also, I rarely shower or change clothes which really adds to my up time for listening). Hint: acquaintances really kill you...

― Saxby D. Elder (Saxby D. Elder), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 04:33 (nineteen years ago)

how does anyone do anything? practice! i mean i've probably listened to 250 minutes of music in the last 250 minutes and i heard it pretty good! in fact, it sounded wonderful.

There is a difference between *listening* carefully and *hearing* something in the background.

It reminds me of an old wire interview with Noton about growing up in East Germany. They mentioned the difference in listening during the GDR when western records were expensive and hard to find, so you had to really spend a lot of time with each one. Now, there is so much media that you listen to something twice and then it is on to the next thing.

I can briefly talk to a bunch of new people every week while I am busy doing other things, but that doesn't mean that I know or understand them with any real depth.

― Disco Nihilist (mjt), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 07:46 (nineteen years ago)

I am not trying to be smug or hateful, it just seems like consumption for it's own sake.

― Disco Nihilist (mjt), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 07:49 (nineteen years ago)

i don't know about anyone else but i have different levels of consumption. i'll listen to just about anything, but possibly for only a few minutes, and a lot of stuff only once. you can hear a pretty big ton of stuff that way. and then things that for one reason or another make me think i want to hear them again moves into a second level of consumption, maybe on the ipod or hard-drive or stuck into the disc changer. and then some smaller subset of those things becomes sort of regular playlist material. and a few things every year, if i'm lucky, are the kind of things i will hit repeat on as soon as they end and listen to 25 times a week.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 08:03 (nineteen years ago)

shuffle has increased my consumption ten-fold. which is a very good thing. i also haven't showered today.

― plan b: videodrome (fauxhemian), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 09:49 (nineteen years ago)

i don't have many acquaintances.

― plan b: videodrome (fauxhemian), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 09:52 (nineteen years ago)

250/week isn't that much though. album's-worth a night is about where i am (maybe 2?).

― plan b: videodrome (fauxhemian), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 09:56 (nineteen years ago)

and they're all cutting edgers.

― plan b: videodrome (fauxhemian), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 09:56 (nineteen years ago)

Prolific group, the Cutting Edgers. Wonder why I've never heard of them?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 10:12 (nineteen years ago)

that's kind of a great name.

― plan b: videodrome (fauxhemian), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 10:27 (nineteen years ago)

how does anyone do anything? practice! i mean i've probably listened to 250 minutes of music in the last 250 minutes and i heard it pretty good! in fact, it sounded wonderful.

But you were probably drunk

― Rockist Scientist, Hippopoptimist (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 13:03 (nineteen years ago)

The reason I revived this thread is precisely that the phrase "cutting edgers" had stuck in my memory.

― Rockist Scientist, Hippopoptimist (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 13:03 (nineteen years ago)

god you're an asshole.

― plan b: videodrome (fauxhemian), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 13:11 (nineteen years ago)

When we bought our split-level last summer, Home Depot sent us a coupon, and we got $20 off on cutting edger. Now our lawn looks great, right up to the walkway.

ADULT. seem to do a good job balancing the "we're restoring an old home" and "we're an abrasive underground band" thing.

― bendy (bendy), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 13:15 (nineteen years ago)

haha OTM

― Elsa Svitborg (tracerhand), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 13:21 (nineteen years ago)

god you're an asshole.

Why is that?

― Rockist Scientist, Hippopoptimist (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 13:23 (nineteen years ago)

"There is a difference between *listening* carefully and *hearing* something in the background."

oh i'm good at listening carefully too.

"I can briefly talk to a bunch of new people every week while I am busy doing other things, but that doesn't mean that I know or understand them with any real depth."

and i can talk to a bunch of people every week while doing other things and know them with real depth too. there isn't anything i can't do.

― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 13:31 (nineteen years ago)

"There is a difference between *listening* carefully and *hearing* something in the background."

I'm actually not sure this is true! You can hear really interesting things in music, even by accident. And there's no reason to listen to every new album under a magnifying glass, not unless you plan to write about it, and maybe not even then; magnifying glasses are sort of an unnatural way to listen to music anyway, aren't they? Why turn something fun into work, unless you're getting paid? (And I say that as somebody even older than most people on this thread, and somebody who probably hears as many new records every week than Scott. And just like him, I have kids, and a job. It's really not that hard!) (On the other hand, I've never cared much for cutting edges per se'.)

― xhuxk (xhuck), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 13:38 (nineteen years ago)

(Which isn't to suggest maginifying glasses can't be fun, too. They obviously can! I'm just saying they're not mandatory all the time.)

― xhuxk (xhuck), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 13:40 (nineteen years ago)

either the guy who started this thread really wanted us to know about his 'missus' or else he just wanted to namedrop a few bands. i don't really understand the point of it.

― Charlie Howard (the sphinx), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 13:43 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, what that guy said.

― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 13:44 (nineteen years ago)

You can hear really interesting things in music, even by accident.

And sometimes precisely because you're not concentrating per se you hear those things by accident -- something seizes you out of nowhere.

The amount of active listening for reviewing I do a week usually comes down to about six albums or so. The rest is me just seeing what's around.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 13:46 (nineteen years ago)

People have this peculiar idea that listening to music should be somehow "fun."

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

nutshell

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 14:02 (nineteen years ago)

Listening to music should be like giving birth to a stillborn tarantula made of razorblades.

― Edward III (edward iii), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 16:17 (nineteen years ago)

Not as easy as it looks, is it?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 16:19 (nineteen years ago)

I've met Ed; he does things like that every day. Providence hardens a man.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 16:20 (nineteen years ago)

This thread title reminds me of "I'm 49 years old. I'm in the best shape of my life. I'm living my dream -- playing guitar in a rock and roll band" (or however it goes)

― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 16:21 (nineteen years ago)

I'm 35 and still a virgin. Is this normal?

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 16:23 (nineteen years ago)

Not as easy as it looks, is it?

No, but it does make one dance.

Providence: Hardening men since 1630!

― Edward III (edward iii), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 16:26 (nineteen years ago)

Wow, that sounds really gay.

― Edward III (edward iii), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 16:27 (nineteen years ago)

It certainly would provide some cutting edgers.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 16:27 (nineteen years ago)

didn't Throwing Muses do a song about cutting edgers?

― hank (hank s), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 16:35 (nineteen years ago)

Other hard men of Providence: Ian, Jon, Elmo... Ned this is a shaky hypothesis.

― Edward III (edward iii), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 16:36 (nineteen years ago)

I never said it was without flaws.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 16:37 (nineteen years ago)

didn't Throwing Muses do a song about cutting edgers?

"Delicate Cutters"?

― Edward III (edward iii), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 16:37 (nineteen years ago)

Ned, you know what photo I'm fighting the urge to post.

― Edward III (edward iii), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 16:39 (nineteen years ago)

No, cutting edgers was what his brother Johnny used to do in jam sessions.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 16:39 (nineteen years ago)

Ned, you know what photo I'm fighting the urge to post.

Of course!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

ihttp://www.cvccbike.com/misc/cutter1.jpg

― Mark (MarkR), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 16:47 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.cvccbike.com/misc/cutter1.jpg

― Mark (MarkR), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 16:48 (nineteen years ago)

Spare us the Cutters.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 16:48 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.spectropop.com/JackNitzsche/movie-reviews_cutters-way.jpg

― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

with john heard as stephen dorff

― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

That was number eight on Pick Of The Pops this week, "The Cutter" - February 1983. Wah! were at number seven, so it wasn't all bad.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

Are you a cutting edger, or just a garden variety weasel?

http://www.step-n-edge.com/images/2002PhotoShoot/standing64BL5248b.jpg

http://www.gardenweasel.com/images/gardenweaselpackage.jpg

― Edward III (edward iii), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 17:00 (nineteen years ago)

It is February 6 and I have not purchased any records from this year yet this year. PERSONAL TRIUMPH.

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

NB: my New Austerity has not stopped me from buying remastered classics from the 1970s or anything crazy like that.

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

But of course. And I like your approach.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 17:07 (nineteen years ago)

Electric Light Orchestra like a MOTHERFUCKER YO.

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 17:08 (nineteen years ago)

For me it's more chasing down obscure weirdness from the NWW list and bad German cover versions. Mp3 blogs are fine things.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 17:09 (nineteen years ago)

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