songs that pan sex

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what are the songs that portray sex in the ugliest, most unrelentingly negative light ? not tracks about rape or sundry abuses, but something that makes the act itself or the experience of desire seem (unexpectedly maybe)ruinous ?

i'll start off with "zoo music girl" by the birthday party, and "really got a hold on me" by the miracles.

mike (ro)bott, Wednesday, 25 September 2002 22:38 (twenty-three years ago)

rob base apparently "can't stand sex." yet, "it takes two to make a thing go right"??

jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 25 September 2002 22:43 (twenty-three years ago)

I can only think of vaguer stuff by lo-fi types. Neutral Milk Hotel has "Song Against Sex" (though damn if I can remember if that's what the song's really about) and there's "X-Friend" by Noah's Arcweld ("sex is a trap/I prefer abstinence").

Do mentions of pregnancy and STD's count? I think Ice Cube has a few songs along those lines. "Faded" off Amerikkka's Most Wanted" comes to mind.

wl (wl), Wednesday, 25 September 2002 22:43 (twenty-three years ago)

"Sex Sux (Amen)" by The Vaselines

gygax!, Wednesday, 25 September 2002 22:58 (twenty-three years ago)

"Take out your fucking retainer put it in your purse"

Nate Patrin, Wednesday, 25 September 2002 23:02 (twenty-three years ago)

Jess, you poor fool, Rob Base can't stand "sens" as in "sensimilia" as in maryjane, the demon WEED...

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 25 September 2002 23:11 (twenty-three years ago)

Weezer has "Tired of Sex", although it only seems to be against meaningless/casual sex.

Rahul Kamath (Rahul Kamath), Wednesday, 25 September 2002 23:48 (twenty-three years ago)

'we don't have to take our clothes off' by jermaine stewart

keith (keithmcl), Wednesday, 25 September 2002 23:48 (twenty-three years ago)

cess

boxcubed (boxcubed), Wednesday, 25 September 2002 23:51 (twenty-three years ago)

William Reid's "Tired of Fucking"

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Wednesday, 25 September 2002 23:57 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm not sure if "Pretty Girls Make Graves" is what you're looking for, but...

End of the pier, end of the bay
You tug my arm, and say : "Give in to lust,
Give up to lust, oh heaven knows we'll
Soon be dust ... "


Oh, I'm not the man you think I am
I'm not the man you think I am


And Sorrow's native son
He will not rise for anyone


And Pretty Girls Make Graves
Oh really ?
Oh ...


I could have been wild and I could have
Been free
But Nature played this trick on me


She wants it Now
And she will not wait
But she's too rough
And I'm too delicate


Then, on the sand
Another man, he takes her hand
A smile lights up her stupid face
(and well, it would)


I lost my faith in Womanhood
I lost my faith in Womanhood
I lost my faith ...

Simon, Thursday, 26 September 2002 00:22 (twenty-three years ago)

'Essence' and 'Damaged Goods' by Gang of Four, also another song by that band, whose name escapes me at the moment... They were really against everything.

To a certain extent, TISM's '(There's Gonna Be) Sex Tonite' does too.

Sasha Gabba Hey! (sgh), Thursday, 26 September 2002 00:55 (twenty-three years ago)

"Love Lies Limp' by ATV, "I'm Not Interested" by me.

unknown or illegal user (doorag), Thursday, 26 September 2002 01:31 (twenty-three years ago)

Ballboy's "Sex is Boring"
what the hell is Mike (ro)Bott talking about re: "Hold on Me"?

M Matos (M Matos), Thursday, 26 September 2002 02:26 (twenty-three years ago)

"Drips"?

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 26 September 2002 04:48 (twenty-three years ago)

i was gonna say "drips." also, juvenile's "i got that fire":

And you can tell your friends you know a
Nigga with a dick like a great big cobra
We can bang bang bang all night long
Knock your head against tha bed 'til tha inside's gone
When ya see your sister, tell her, "It's alright."
She still make my dick BOOM like dynamite
Tell her Tiger Woods... but I won't
Eat no pussy... cuz I don't
You wanna nigga that'll fuck ya in tha park in tha grass
You wanna nigga that'll stick a big stick in your ass

or "catch your cut":

These hoes.. know.. I act.. bad
They say.. gone.. with your dog.. ass
I slang.. dick.. I lay.. pipe
All fuckin'.. day.. goin' through tha.. night
I fuck.. cousins.. I fuck.. friends
Juvie drive.. Jag.. Geezy ride.. Benz
I'll put that dick on tha ho, look, I'll bust four nuts
Then I open ta see if she can back.. that ass up
Bitch, my dick.. wanna.. feel your.. lips
Don't do it.. right.. go get some.. tips
Come back.. later.. try once.. more
Fuck up a-.. -gain.. bitch, ya gotta.. go
I'm.. gonna.. keep.. doin' my thang
Hot.. Boy B.G. don't play games
Either.. way.. ho, I'll get mine
I'll jack off lookin' you dead in your eyes
So,

[Chorus2x [B.G. + Juvenile]]
Bitch, go.. 'head.. catch your.. cut
Lil' B.G. done caught his.. nut
Bitch go.. 'head.. catch your.. cut
Juve-.. -nile.. done caught his.. nut

[Juvenile]
Spread your.. legs.. touch your.. toes
Soon as.. I.. come out these.. 'Bauds
I'm J-U-.. -V.. a H-O-.. -T
B-O-.. -Y.. from that.. three
Bitch, I'm.. hot.. sweaty, gettin'.. moist
Tha girl want me.. ta show her my.. choice
Ya know what I.. mean.. I wanna.. push
Dick in your.. ass like it's a.. dousch
Ya gotta be.. clean.. wash it.. good
Before I.. come.. and lay this.. wood
Eat this.. meat.. please, no.. teeth
Every.. day.. and all through tha.. week
I know whatcha.. need.. liquor and.. weed
A hour and a.. half.. I'll plant this.. seed
You do it for that.. I'll do it for.. game
Both of us.. straight.. ya can't com-.. -plain

[Chorus2x]

[Juvenile]
Look at that.. there.. she big.. find
She could be.. yours.. or she could be.. mine
[B.G.]
It ain't no.. thang.. bring her on a.. trip
Get her in tha.. room.. and she'll get it.. flipped
[Juvenile]
She'll do what she.. do.. and do it.. well
And me and.. you.. could make it.. swell
[B.G.]
I'm your.. nigga.. you my.. dog
We fuck.. cuts.. and there's no.. walls
[Juvenile]
It ain't no.. beef.. you could go.. first
Or both of us.. could go.. and hit that.. skirt
[B.G.]
Once it's.. over.. still don't.. stop
Find us a-.. -nother, and open up shop, nigga
[Juvenile]
I'm with.. that.. man, let's.. go
Out right.. now.. to smash some.. hoes
[B.G.]
We play.. that.. just like.. g's
Nigga, I'm.. straight.. 'cause I done bust three
So,

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 26 September 2002 04:54 (twenty-three years ago)

PiL, "Track 8" - "Imagine that, a butterball turkey, spread, a body, naked and silly, a bulbous heap on a second-hand mattress" The gtr solo by K Levene is one of my all-time faves

dave q, Thursday, 26 September 2002 06:23 (twenty-three years ago)

Caressing bent up to the jug again
With sheaths and pills
Invading all those stills
In a hovel of a bed
I will scream in vain
Oh please miss Lane
Leave me with some pain
Went walking through this city's neon lights
In fear of disguising my warping seathing
Pressure lines and graceless heirs
Intangible of price
Trying so hard to find what? What was right
I came upon your room it stuck into my head
We leapt into the bed degrading even lice
You took delight in taking down
All my shielded pride
Until exposed became my darker side
Puckering up and down some avenue of sin
Too cheap to ride they're worth a try
If only for the old times cold times
Don't go waving your pretentious love
He's soliciting on his tan brown brogues
Girating through some lonesome devils row
Pinpointing well meaning upper class prey
Of walking money checks posessing holes
He often sleekly offers his services
Exploitation of his finer years
Work with loosely woven fabrics
Of lonely office clerks
Any lay suffices his dollar green eye

(Dark Entries - Bauhaus)

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 26 September 2002 07:08 (twenty-three years ago)

that ugly kid joe where he says he doesn't like 'your' sister "cause sex is overrated".

michael wells (michael w.), Thursday, 26 September 2002 07:31 (twenty-three years ago)

'I Can't Come' - The Snivelling Shits

Andrew L (Andrew L), Thursday, 26 September 2002 08:03 (twenty-three years ago)

btw, i thought this thread title was 'better than pan-sex'.

michael wells (michael w.), Thursday, 26 September 2002 08:17 (twenty-three years ago)

er, i mean 'songs about pan-sex'. i got mixed up with the 'better than cocaine' thread.

so is pansexuality better than cocaine?

michael wells (michael w.), Thursday, 26 September 2002 08:30 (twenty-three years ago)

Pretty sure it's "sess," not "sens" or "cess," re: Rob Base.

Naked Raygun's "No Sex" and "Libido" and "Potential Rapist"; the Pistols' "Bodies"; Minor Threat's "Out of Step"; Bikini Kill's "Star Bellied Boy"...

Pete Scholtes, Thursday, 26 September 2002 11:28 (twenty-three years ago)

Any number of David Fair's Half Japanese songs would fit the bill...

Colin Meeder (Mert), Thursday, 26 September 2002 12:46 (twenty-three years ago)


The Boss: 'I'm On Fire'

the pinefox, Thursday, 26 September 2002 13:14 (twenty-three years ago)

This is one of my favorite anti-love songs:

One baby to another said,
I'm lucky to have met you
I don't care what you think
Unless it is about me
It is now my duty to completely drain you
A travel through a tube
And end up in your infection

Chew your meat for you
Pass it back and forth in a passionate kiss
From my mouth to yours because I like you

With eyes so dilated,
I've became your pupil
You've taught me everything
Without a poison apple
The water is so yellow, I'm a healthy student
Indebted and so grateful -
Vacuum out the fluids

Sloppy lips to lips
You're my vitamins because I'm like you

- "Drain You", Nirvana

o. nate (onate), Thursday, 26 September 2002 13:24 (twenty-three years ago)

"Mama Told Me Not To Come" ;)

Mike Appelstein (mike a), Thursday, 26 September 2002 16:15 (twenty-three years ago)

"This say sound like a hype sex thrilla / Yo! But she looked like Godzilla"

Lord Custos Alpha (Lord Custos Alpha), Thursday, 26 September 2002 16:24 (twenty-three years ago)

"Tonight I Fancy Myself" by the Beautiful South. Doesn't flat out pan sex, but the protagonist eschews relationships in favor of staying home and choosing self-abuse.

Ernest P., Friday, 27 September 2002 12:50 (twenty-three years ago)

The Passage probably own this - I get an undercurrent of this theme running through alot of their songs, one of the reasons I love 'em so much. They also have several more specific ones that, if perhaps not quite panning it, do deal with it in a dark or humourous or ambiguous way: Carnal, Taboos, XOYO, Horseplay(maybe), and a track from 'All & None' - that I can't recall the title of - which contrasted 'photo romance' stories with the anxiety/misery of sexual 'performance'.
They may have more (calling Dr C....) but without albums to hand I can't be sure.

Ray M (rdmanston), Friday, 27 September 2002 13:28 (twenty-three years ago)


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