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The new Squarepusher album comes with an .nfo file called "Tom's Manifest.nfo". This is how it reads :-

"Tom's Manifesto

Some people would say, in looking at my career, that it betrays a confused musical standpoint;
optimistically it is termed unpredictable, more derisively it is said to be self-cancelling, in that within the wide
aesthetic range in the work, one part contradicts and undermines another, resulting in something akin to the
mixing of all the different paints on the palette. This is an important point to realise: I take no refuge behind
standpoints. This has manifested itself as part of my fundamental creative aspiration- to see across as
opposed to seeing from.

At first, there needs to be the presence both of a view rooted in inherited opinion,
effectively treated as transparent and assumed to be inherently correct, and a will to play with that view, to
endlessly distort it and to ultimately be prepared to destroy it. A kind of simultaneous faith and critical
ingenuity are required as, without the latter one is bound to a reverential repetition of received wisdom, and
without the former ones sparks quickly die away once the entrenched standpoint is supposedly vanquished.

To make a lethal attack on, say a musical standpoint, that standpoint must first be loved, understood and
accommodated before it can be assailed, and this problem is exemplified with much youth culture that
seeks to destroy its perceived antithetical enemy simply by contradicting it. It is not enough to behead your
enemy, they must first be invited in and made to feel welcome in order to be comprehensively destroyed i.e.
they must be in some way incorporated. This process should seem familiar as it is the time honoured way of
dissipating polarised energy away from musical movements: by making them popular.

What I am doing is
turning this system on its head: instead of incorporating isolated views into mainstream equivalents, for the
sake of destroying culture in the name of the corporation, I incorporate isolated views into my standpoint,
indeed to the point of seemingly cancelling out a coherent view, for the sake of destroying culture in the
name of the individual. In this sense I advocate completely respect-less exploitation of all forms available,
as this is the only road that could possibly render an individual immune to being dissolved into mainstream
castration, insofar as the music industry as it stands feeds most happily on artists with discrete
viewpoints:identity-cults can only be effectively generated from one dimensional personalities. Personal
identity must be entirely subjugated and rendered formless in order to have any sort of freedom in our era. A
common error is mistaking contradiction or negation of a consensus view for freedom; this leads to
phenomena symbiotic with mainstream culture and equally poisonous i.e. movements who identify
themselves exclusively with a cynical commentary on the mainstream. This is a dustbin for so called
artists: diametrically opposed to the mainstream, they are still very much obliged to march to its tune, or of
course its inversion. Being conscious of the fallacy in their claim of independence, the views always
deliberately remain self-contained, and just as a surfeit of cultural control gives rise to overweight smug
cretins, an almost total absence of it gives rise to the revolting snide dinginess of the eternally subjugated.

The lesson is that no punks have yet been punk enough - rejecting and negating the mainstream just as
quickly becomes subsumed in its own poisonous cliches, (thus often becoming eligible for mass
production). It is essential for any creator to want to negate and to reject, but this has to be coupled with a
consummate understanding of the phenomena one seeks to reject. Otherwise, not understanding the
language of negation, the object of the negating will misunderstands what is being shouted at it, and caries
on regardless. I have learned to see inside every musician’s head because, in order to prevent myself from
being fully incorporated into any musical ghetto, I have to incorporate every musical ghetto into myself. I
aspire to make music useless as a commodity i.e. a prop for the identities and personalities of the
mindless; and if this is all that music constitutes in our era, then to maximise every conceivable parameter
until it completely destroys itself. [Signed Squarepusher]"

Pretentious waffle or a valid point?

Lynskey, Thursday, 26 September 2002 12:23 (twenty-three years ago)

The paragraph break are my own. So . . . .

Lynskey, Thursday, 26 September 2002 12:24 (twenty-three years ago)

Remember this? I have no problem with Squarepusher or anyone else trying to clarify their methodologies (and in fact often enjoy reading them).

As far as this stuff, well, sure he sounds pretentious, but how do you go about this and not sound pretentious? The question is, what do you think about artists who do go to the trouble of publishing lengthy treatises on their own work? Is it inherently egocentric, or should everyone be forced to put into words exactly what they think they're doing?

dleone (dleone), Thursday, 26 September 2002 12:34 (twenty-three years ago)

I have learned to see inside every musician’s head...

sorry, i can't get past that line.


michael wells (michael w.), Thursday, 26 September 2002 12:36 (twenty-three years ago)

Why destroy?

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 26 September 2002 12:49 (twenty-three years ago)

It is by definition impossible to incorporate something which is comprehensively destroyed.

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 26 September 2002 12:50 (twenty-three years ago)

Why, if you take no refuge behind standpoints, do you thereafter issue a manifesto which is, by classical definition, interchangeable with having a standpoint?

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 26 September 2002 12:52 (twenty-three years ago)

To be able to "see across" biologically requires a central viewpoint from which something can be seen, irrespective of perspective; thus not "seeing from" is a physical impossibility.

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 26 September 2002 12:53 (twenty-three years ago)

Why should something which is "fundamentally correct" be "transparent" and furthermore why does it need to be destroyed; and if so, why does it need to be played with first?

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 26 September 2002 12:54 (twenty-three years ago)

How, pray tell, can one be dissolved into castration?

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 26 September 2002 12:56 (twenty-three years ago)

If "personal identity" is to be "entirely subjugated" then doesn't that cancel out the whole purpose of your manifesto if it is to be observed to the letter?

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 26 September 2002 12:57 (twenty-three years ago)

I like the idea of manifestos but only when they make the guy's records sound better.

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 26 September 2002 12:58 (twenty-three years ago)

"A common error is mistaking contradiction or negation of a consensus view for freedom" - which is essentially what you are doing.

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 26 September 2002 12:58 (twenty-three years ago)

You would appear to be marching to the tune's inversion.

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 26 September 2002 12:59 (twenty-three years ago)

"Being conscious of the fallacy in their claim of independence, the views always deliberately remain self-contained, and just as a surfeit of cultural control gives rise to overweight smug
cretins, an almost total absence of it gives rise to the revolting snide dinginess of the eternally subjugated."

Congratulations! You have managed to fit into both categories!

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 26 September 2002 13:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"Otherwise, not understanding the language of negation, the object of the negating will misunderstands (sic) what is being shouted at it, and caries (sic) on regardless."

QED.

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 26 September 2002 13:01 (twenty-three years ago)

And where in your vast new spectrum does this leave room for third-rate Jaco Pastorius impersonators?

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 26 September 2002 13:02 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh come on Marcello answer the question.

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 26 September 2002 13:03 (twenty-three years ago)

Harrumph, anyway as far as bass players go he is not as good as KTee from keyboardless tarpaulin.

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 26 September 2002 13:05 (twenty-three years ago)

(sorry Marcello post amended to keep Ktee out of trubble)

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 26 September 2002 13:30 (twenty-three years ago)

Marcello, I think you've got some good points. I think most of what he's trying to say is "look at me, I'm a paradox!", and he's not saying it very well.

I think the most interesting point he makes is the idea of making music which takes elements from popular music into your own psyche, rather than bending your own psyche to fit into popular music.


Lynskey, Thursday, 26 September 2002 13:44 (twenty-three years ago)

As far as I can tell the manifesto is just a very long paraphrase of the Berklee ad slogan 'You have to know the rules before you can break them'. Unsurprising, as every idea he's ever had could comfortably fit onto one single.

dave q, Thursday, 26 September 2002 13:53 (twenty-three years ago)


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