Nirvana vs. Alice in Chains

Consider yourself one of the lucky ones.

Nirvana was definitely coming from the underground/zine press route and Alice In Chains had their video on Headbanger's Ball and did a national tour opening for Van Halen a year before Nevermind was released and was featured in metal mags alongside GnR and such.

I think that comparing Nirvana's first record with Alice In Chains first record it is explicit that the bands are coming from very, very different planets. Not to mention the production values, major label debut vs. indie debut, technical prowess vs. lack of, I think dave q needs to listen to how much more "pro" AiC comes off than Nirvana... (i hate defending Nirvana).

But I like Nirvana better.

TS: the great chorus melodies on "In Bloom" and "Sickman".

Actually, fuck, "Sickman" into "Rooster" is as good as hard rock got in the early 90's.

I'm just relistening to Dirt just now, and it really is great, in fact better than I had remembered. To Sean's old question upthread - Yes, you should at the least re-buy Dirt!!

They really did have some nice melodies. They can actually sort of remind me of the Beatles; well, more like Lennon at his darkest on things like "I Want You", "Sexy Sadie", "Dig A Pony", "I'm So Tired"; things like that..

I would. In fact, I just did. Fuck'em both, actually, that's what I'd say. Glad to be rid of the pair of'em!

Alice In Chains ripoffs are inherently not good,...

I'll give ya that.

....while Nirvana has a few good ones (most specifically Local H).

Never fully paid any attention to Local H (probably `cos of their crap name). However, for inspiring the absolultely indefensible Silverchair alone, Nirvana are guilty, guilty, guilty!

Heh. This reminds me of something Stripey has noted a variety of times, namely that while MBV are still Thee Shoegaze Band non pareil it's Slowdive that have had the most direct impact in terms of groups' sounds. In this case she says it's partially due to their songs' relative simplicity (more in the sense of 'easier to perform' than melodically simpler), something that isn't necessarily the case here! No question that Staley's growling slots in much more easily with nu-metal in general, though.

Anyway, the Vines even have songs that can be called 'best'? *hides*

Why oh why must there be farting involved....especially in this heat?

Maybe if you masterplanners didn't plot these things on major holidays I could attend! Seriously, having a FAP on July 4th is like having a wedding on Labor Day Weekend. SHITTY!

If you were drinking and clubbing back in those days it was tough to avoid getting a that unbelievably sore neck after slamming/moshing to any of the big 4 (Soundgarden and Pearl Jam added to the other two of course) Seattle bands.

Damn those were fun times!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQwOP_n348s&search=nona%20weisbaum

Soundgarden
Pearl Jam
Alice In Chains
Nirvana

Although back in the early nineties I probably would have switched the order of the last two, and that may be because I overplayed Nirvana, so it's tough to say. Like I said earlier, I liked them all quite a bit.

... that was the way i saw it at the time

Although Superunknown is a better album than any of them, not counting Nevermind.

Alice In Chains

I love classic Nirvana (Bleach, Incesticide, Nevermind, et al), but Alice in Chains will always hold a special place in my heart. In high school, when I was really starting to get into 'heavier' music, they were my gateway.

from the unfairly overlooked Facelift (hey, it's a fun album!), to Dirt, it contained the dark sound that matched my personality in high school while also retaining mainstream catchiness on the singles. Truthfully, I'd say the only album of theirs I truly am not a huge fan of is the self-titled recording.

I also have not heard the newest one with the new singer. To me, it's a little like seeing an old girlfriend with a new boyfriend -- I'm sure the guy is talented and all, and the band may sound great together, but to me I can't quit associating the band with Layne Staley. Not to knock the contributions of anybody else, especially Jerry Cantrell, but Layne's passionate singing was what endeared me to the band the most. Cantrell's songwriting played a large part as well, but Layne's soaring vocals on "Rain When I Die" are kind of the example I like to give of what I love the most about AiC.

One day I'll give the new album a listen to though.

I guarantee Layne Staley did not have a 3-4 inch cock unless you are saying when it was flacid. I can't really prove anything because he is dead.

"Lithium" is by no means diatonic

Yeah, that's got to be the weirdest criticism of Nirvana I can imagine.

I think that's referring to the first line of the original post.

No, I was agreeing with Curtis that it was bizarre for dave q to criticize Nirvana on those grounds. Modal mixture was pretty much a defining element of Nirvana's style - and that's on the poppier songs!

I think the only thing that would enhance the immensely grisly and necro-fetishistic vibes of the songs would be the knowledge that Layne Staley is ultimately replaceable.

Nirvana and I don't like metal

wouldn't consider either of these bands metal

nirvana and i share a secret crush

sorry to be confusing. I don't consider alice in chains metal either. (I don't like metal that sounds like metal rather than hard rock)

I'm just dropping non sequiturs, ignore me

dropping non sequiturs...LIL WAYNE

I'm not sure what the question is asking.

it is asking what kind of party you would play alice in chains at, and why you are not at another party

90s night partys sound like fun

My favorite Alice In Chains songs are by no means "party music." Or rather, that would be like playing "Stairway To Heaven" at a party... I would rather hear "Get Low."

I suppose Incesticide is a good party album.. The "Turnaround," "Molly's Lips," "Son Of A Gun" trilogy would be some good fun.

^^^ good party

plus then you take it off and play some vaselines until they make you play something else

Or Devo!

always devo

Nirvanna man, they just have those lyrics that flow with everything. They made the most influential lyricz i have ever heard. Plus their lead singer died which makes their music so classic!

AiC's lead singer died too

Plus their lead singer died which makes their music so classic!

Nirvana's singer died first so that means they were more raw and did it first. True originals.