Scooter's success vs happy hardcore's lack of...

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how come Scooter have just sold loads of records in the Uk with 'The Logical Song' and 'Nessaja' after years in the eurodance wilderness (tho they've probably been huge in Germany all this time) with fast-paced l.c.d. dance tracks punctuated by high pitched vocal samples from 70s/80s rock when things like 99th Floor Elevators 'Hooked' or early 90s happy hardcore didnt seem commercially viable? granted it was a good 10-20 bpm faster but why didnt anyone cotton on earlier and release those ludicrous John Peel approved e anthems at 140-150bpm to the masses...'Six Days On The Run' couldve been a number one hit!

feel free to turn this into a Happy Hardcore - S/D or C/D

blueski, Thursday, 26 September 2002 17:01 (twenty-three years ago)

Didn't al those those other silly Dutch and German happy hardcore hits of Dune, Party Animals, Charly Lownoise & Mental Theo, Technohead, Tokyo Ghetto Pussy, Marusha, Nakatomi etc etc etc get into the UK charts back in 1992-94?

Only Scooter remains though - all those other producers are currently busy riding on the nu-skool gabber bandwagon.

Siegbran Hetteson (eofor), Thursday, 26 September 2002 18:12 (twenty-three years ago)

there's a new school gabber bandwagon?

robin (robin), Thursday, 26 September 2002 18:28 (twenty-three years ago)

not meant sarcastically by the way,tell me more...

robin (robin), Thursday, 26 September 2002 18:29 (twenty-three years ago)

the only one of those to break big in the UK was Technohead.

robin carmody (robin carmody), Thursday, 26 September 2002 20:32 (twenty-three years ago)

they didnt break big - they had ONE hit - the marvellous but stupid 'I Wanna Be A Hippy' - then those pesky Smurfs went and ruined it all

Marusha was kinda cool tho - Mrs Westbam if i'm not mistaken

blueski, Thursday, 26 September 2002 22:16 (twenty-three years ago)

>Didn't al those those other silly Dutch and German happy hardcore >hits of Dune, Party Animals, Charly Lownoise & Mental Theo, >Technohead, Tokyo Ghetto Pussy, Marusha, Nakatomi etc etc etc get >into the UK charts back in 1992-94?
>Only Scooter remains though - all those other producers are >currently busy riding on the nu-skool gabber bandwagon.

BEEP! that's not correct.

9, Friday, 27 September 2002 04:14 (twenty-three years ago)

Scooter singles would sell 50 or 60 units a week in a record store I worked in. This was 1996, and that was an amzing number, some weeks beating the the Spice Girls. My town is full of dumbfucks obviously.

kinski (kinski), Friday, 27 September 2002 08:20 (twenty-three years ago)

New school gabber, as in Hardstyle - Technoboy, Deepack, DJ Isaac, Pavo, Lady Dana, Donkey Rollers, DJ Zenith, Smurref, Ueberdruck, etc. Mainly from Italy, Germany and Holland, think UK Hardhouse with more/dirtier bass. Not as fast as the old gabber, and less overdriven kicks.

Siegbran Hetteson (eofor), Friday, 27 September 2002 10:46 (twenty-three years ago)

surely scooter is on more of a hard house tip than happy hardcore. seeing as hard house has basically taken trances place (cf mauro picotto at gatecrasher thing when back in the day would have been jules all the way), its not surprising that the uk is finally ready for scooter. funnily enuff, whern i was in russia, we saw scooter and dj alligator project everywhere, and just thought that it was a pile of eurononsense that at least we'd never see in the uk...but.....

ambrose (ambrose), Friday, 27 September 2002 22:30 (twenty-three years ago)

But but but....Mauro Picotto is not a hardhouse DJ by any stretch! Just look at his recent setlists (at Gatecrasher even), it's all tech-trance/techno: Umek, Marco Zaffarano, Chris Liebling, Speedy J, Secret Cinema, Joy Kitikonti, Ricky Effe, his own tracks, etc. Definitely not your average Andy Farley/BK/Nick Sentience/Fergie/Lisa Lashes/JP/Tom Harding hardhouse DJ. But yes, hardhouse was the big thing at least in 2000 and 2001, although it has given quite a lot of way to techno, hardstyle and hardtrance as the "hard & monotonous" style currently en vogue. I don't know where one would place Scooter but I really can't fit him into the hardhouse style - he pretty much sounds like a relic from 1994, has hardly changed a bit since "Hyper Hyper" and "Move Your Ass", still the pitched up samples, still the silly MC'ing, etc. Mindless partytracks will score everywhere...

Siegbran Hetteson (eofor), Saturday, 28 September 2002 18:36 (twenty-three years ago)


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