what were your MOST IMPORTANT YEARS musically

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on another thread a.v. states that he discovered most of his "all time favorites" in 2002. to which i replied that that's great, because those are always the best type of years. (nb: i'm not sure if i agree with this 100% but it's trying to articulate something i can't quite get at tonight.)

anyway, what were your years of seismic impact, musically, and why? not "well, this was the year punk broke and blah blah friggin blah", although if that was immediately important to you then by all means.

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 26 September 2002 22:33 (twenty-three years ago)

drunken, so no extrapolation

1992, 1993, 1995, 1997

gareth (gareth), Thursday, 26 September 2002 22:34 (twenty-three years ago)

mine:

1986 - purchase liscense to ill; first piece of recorded music owned.

1990 - cousin (i think) gives me a copy of both appetite for destruction and the then extant public enemy albums which i become obsessed with.

1992 - nirvana (my secret shame.) a few months later someone lets me listen to their copy of the dead kennedy's give me convience or give me death on a french field trip, one of those epiphanal, evangelical moments which ruined my life. see my bloody valentine on last tour thanks to same cousin from above.

1994 - i am taken to my first rave. also, form first band.

1996 - college, form second band. begin to actively track down electronic/dance records now living in philadelphia. hardcore/punk finally begins to lose it's edge for me.

1999 - my summer of pop.

2001 - discover ilm (you think i'm kidding?)

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 26 September 2002 22:38 (twenty-three years ago)

The year that had: Smashing Pumpkins' "Siamese Dream", The The's "Dusk", Lemonheads' "Come On Feel" and many others I discovered thanks to the radio station I work for now. Ain' t that sweet.

sander, Thursday, 26 September 2002 22:40 (twenty-three years ago)

My uncle starts playing me all types of records that I never heard on the radio. Sun Ra has the collest album covers
I start to check out the college radio stations in the area. I'm hooked." I like kerosene set me on fiiireee!
I get a radio show. All money goes into music and booze related expenditures...To Be continued..

brg30 (brg30), Thursday, 26 September 2002 22:56 (twenty-three years ago)

If everyone writes this down in a story of 500+ words, this could be a great book. But maybe I'm playing a bit too Nick Hornby stylee now..

I've got a great "I Love Prince" story deep down in me...

sander, Thursday, 26 September 2002 23:05 (twenty-three years ago)

1988

jack cole (jackcole), Thursday, 26 September 2002 23:30 (twenty-three years ago)

1990 thru 1994

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 26 September 2002 23:52 (twenty-three years ago)

2002 hasn't really been one of my most important years. It's only in the last three years, tho, that I've realized that music is my obsession, and that I'm actually a music collector. 1999 would be the biggest, I think--when, at the end of the year, I could look at critics' top tens and agree or disagree with most anything. Some of my favorites came out that year and I discovered BIG THINGS PAST(Talking Heads, Beatles, Prince, jazz, etc.). This is also when I started using Napster. In 2000 I did a lot of backtracking, discovering some post-punk , dance, etc. as well as sort of figuring out how I felt about chart pop. Towards the end of the year I discovered ILM (I used to post as Keiko, if you'll recall, and have been here some time). 2001 was big for me, too. I discovered the joys of noise, and sound in general. Audiogalaxy absolutely OWNED 2001, as far as I'm concerned. I don't think there'll ever be another period when I'll be able to learn as much through hearing ANYTHING I WANT WHENEVER I WANT. 2002 has been comparitively slow, now that I think about it. I'm a precocious fucker, you see, and I've heard a lot of music in a short period of time.

And there's nothing shameful about Nirvana, Jess, I was a bad man for owning Nevermind in 3th grade.

A.V. Alexandre (Keiko), Thursday, 26 September 2002 23:57 (twenty-three years ago)

1980 - born.
1994 - bought Jagged Little Pill, my first ever CD. I'm coloring with shame right now.
1997 - bought Becoming X, thus backwardsly discovering 1994's cachecrop, i.e. Portishead, and indirectly setting me towards getting into "that electronic dance music stuff."
1998 - bought Mezzanine, the most important album ever in that it introduced me to the Cocteaus.
2000 - actively rip off Metallica; am now a music revolutionary. Gave deep listen to Tri Repetae, "understand this thing IDM."
2001 - listened to Mogwai's CODY, become hep to that "postrock" jive. Download Sleater-Kinney song "Call the Doctor," planting seed for current plans on hatching plot to seduce Carrie and marry her. (She's a what?)

Morale of the story: Alanis Morissette is the artist of the decade.

Leee (Leee), Friday, 27 September 2002 00:19 (twenty-three years ago)

For me it probably would be from 1980 to 1983. I spent the better part of three years just going to school and coming home to my room, not hanging around with any of the asshole kids in my neighbourhood. Music was my biggest escape, and reading and drawing copybooks etc.

Yeah, I'm a hoot eh...Fiction Factory anyone?

Derek Dalek (Derek Dalek), Friday, 27 September 2002 00:24 (twenty-three years ago)

comic books, drawing comic books

Derek Dalek (Derek Dalek), Friday, 27 September 2002 00:25 (twenty-three years ago)

drunken, so too much extrapolation (i expect):

1992 rem automatic for the people/out of time: the first time i liked something that my parents didn't. they continued to be my fave band for another 4 years or so (but i basically never listen to them now - although the odd song still brings a lump to my throat (cuyahoga at glastonbury 1998 probably being the last time; for a moment it seemed like we really could put our heads together + start a new country up etc)).

1993: suede/pj harvey (dry + rid of me) these 3 tapes (+ rem albums) were all that mattered to 13-yr old me, and i guess they carried on being v important for the next 5 years. "animal nitrate" was the most exciting thing i'd ever heard; in many ways i never got over it (to this day i still have a fascination with what i think of as the "suede lifestyle", and it doesn't take much to get me back into wanting to dress in black + wear too much makeup + snog skinny boys at indie clubs, which was certainly what listening to suede made me want to do (although i didn't get round to it for another four years)). i still have a bad weakness for skinny suede-like bands (only 4 years ago i briefly thought that marion were the best band on earth) + for pj harvey-like stuff too.

1998: the year i discovered dance music/classical music/all kinds of experimental shit. went to my first raves, took lots of drugs, realised that indie music was by no means the be-all and end-all (though it was another year or two before it stopped being my musical centre). still hated pop (and popular films - basically i was yr classic 17 yr old "intellectual") and didn't "get" hip-hop (i listened to the first wu album quite a lot but never went any further).

2001: the year i realised i loved pop and (mainstream - still don't get the undie stuff) hip-hop; ilm had a lot to do with this. loads of hilarious "britney is better than radiohead" conversations with strangers down the pub etc etc. also got into jazz late in the year when my flatmate put on some late john coltrane live album and my jaw hit the floor. also the one year that i had broadband internet and napster/audiogalaxy, so acquired approx 600 albums.

toby (tsg20), Friday, 27 September 2002 00:35 (twenty-three years ago)

no Derek, don't do it, don't mention comic books to Jess!!!!

for me, 1980, the year I read Lou Stathis
you think I'm kidding -
go find old issues of Heavy Metal magazine from 1980

that was the BIG BANG, otherwise it's back to the 7.0 earthquakes every coupla months

Paul (scifisoul), Friday, 27 September 2002 00:37 (twenty-three years ago)

1992 / late 1995 and early 1996 / 1998.

cecilia, Friday, 27 September 2002 00:45 (twenty-three years ago)

Peter Hammill fan, Cecilia?

Paul (scifisoul), Friday, 27 September 2002 00:49 (twenty-three years ago)

94-97 = genuinely in love with hiphop
02 = ilm

boxcubed (boxcubed), Friday, 27 September 2002 00:54 (twenty-three years ago)

1984-started piano
1989-guns n' roses..learned the word fuck from 'mr. brownstone'
1990-started violin
1991-nirvana(it sounded so different from everything else at the time!!),
1999-discovered napster,postpunk,indie,shoegazing and just about everything else
2000-started guitar, discovered ilm, and downward spiral of purchasing hundreds of dollars of albums a month

jack, Friday, 27 September 2002 01:19 (twenty-three years ago)

1998

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Friday, 27 September 2002 01:30 (twenty-three years ago)

just listing the years is no good!!

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 27 September 2002 01:34 (twenty-three years ago)

Im too drunk to elaborate. Ill be back tomoro.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Friday, 27 September 2002 01:41 (twenty-three years ago)

2000 - First heard The Fall

Sasha Gabba Hey! (sgh), Friday, 27 September 2002 02:01 (twenty-three years ago)

Hmm, I have elements of Jess' list but without anything as interesting as musical talent, a punk/hardcore past, or ever going to a proper rave.

1982: I had some pop-disco 45s and listened to music around the house, but after an older family friend came over and wanted to find "Jack and Diane" and "Abracadabra" on the radio, I became obsessed with listening to music this way (as opposed to records around the house) and, from there, obsessed with America's Top 40. I listened every week and taped much of the year-end top 100 that year off the radio (sadly the tapes are well-lost). This obsession lasted for a few years over which time I rooted for my faves [Stepping Out, Come on Eileen, (Keep Feeling) Fascination, Goody Two Shoes, Der Kommisar[, many of which I still love. Also at this time I'd visit the teenage girl across the street (also my babysitter, I was 9) and listen to her new wave LPs.

(too much classic rock.)

around 1987: Got the Rolling Stone Illustrated Encyclopedia of Rock and poured over it extensively. I have no idea to what extent it had to do with the magazine as it actually seemed like a decent book. (Someone -- Matos? -- once confirmed this in a post here.) It was very Anglocentric and had chart placings and in retrospet this sort of sparked my Anglophilia as I read about all of these artists whom I hadn't to my knowldege heard (Roxy Music? the Specials? the Buzzcocks?) who were revered alongside classic rock regulars. Still, of course, I listened to too much classic rock at this time.

1991: Nevermind. Got it my second week of college, which probably seemed pathetically appropriate at the time.

(too much pavement).

1996: "Make a new cult every day to suit your affairs..." Joined Sinister in 98, although I didn't participate much until the next year, but the experience helped me discover loads of new music and thanks to Hopkins and Fitchett and others, a new way of thinking about and creating a dialogue with/about pop music. (Embarassingly, they'd be shocked to learn this -- I've always been more of a confidence crisis-afflicted lurker in these sorts of places.) (Quit Sinister in 2000 after too many tales of tweehugger woes at U.S. liberal arts schools.)


1999: Pop epihnany. "Are You That Somebody?" and "Supa Dupa Fly" had started opening the cracks but this is the year that it all sort of happened. Also, working with an indie-type group of people for the first time left me uneasy with the ethos surounding it and became a big turnoff even when I assumed it was somehow "correct."

2000: ILM.

2001: Learning to love Jamaican music, through the backdoor of UK garage and its sometimes ragga vocals, and Soul Jazz.

oh gosh, that's wordy. sorry.

scott pl., Friday, 27 September 2002 02:01 (twenty-three years ago)

hah, scott me having a band is no indication of musical talent! (trust me.)

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 27 September 2002 02:03 (twenty-three years ago)

For me it probably would be from 1980 to 1983. I spent the better part of three years just going to school and coming home to my room, not hanging around with any of the asshole kids in my neighbourhood. Music was my biggest escape, and reading

Derek, are you sure you aren't me? 1979-1983 was the period when I discovered a broader range of music than at any other point in my life (and under similar circumstances as Derek). Still, there's no doubt that the 70's (I was born in the middle of the 60's) were important to me in a quieter way. In 1979 I started listening to a lot of stuff that I hadn't heard or even heard of in the previous decade, but the previous decade was the norm from which I deviated. (I now find much of the 70's pop I listened to in the 70's more attractive than much of the music I discovered between 1979-83.)

My college years were less important for musical discoveries, since I was spending somewhat less time alone listening to the radio, and tending to go back and more thoroughly explore what I had been hearing. (Also, it seems to me that my taste became more rock-oriented in college than it had been in high school.) I suppose that 88-91 were important for first exposures to house/techno, if only so I could discover I didn't like them, and for a growing interest in hip-hop to listen to.

1992 was kind of blah, but it was in around 1993/94 that I discovered Arabic music and that was pretty exciting; then in late 1997/1998 I started dancing salsa, which led to more musical discoveries. There hasn't been any major shift or discovery since then, but I am not close to exhausting my interest in the music I already know something about. The explorations (sorry if that's too pretentious) set in motion in 1993/94, and then 97/98, are continuing. For that matter, I am still tracking down stuff that I heard back between 1979-1983.

It looks like I have rewritten my introduction.

I think it would be easier to say which were the most fallow years: 1984-1987, 1992, 1995-96, 1999-2002. But calling them "fallow" is not entirely fair. 11:11.

Rockist Scientist, Friday, 27 September 2002 02:07 (twenty-three years ago)

1984 - David Bowie's Heroes: first favorite album
1988 - U2's Rattle & Hum = first experience as a fanboy; discovered hip hop (PE, NWA, Eric B & Rakim)
1989 - PWEI's This Is the Day..., Wonderstuff's Hup and Stone Roses: introduced to non-radio music, start musical obsession in earnest
1992 - Superchunk's On the Mouth: intro'd to US college/indierock, mainstay of musical collecting for most of 90s
1999 - Ella Fitzgerald comp leads to dabbling with jazz/swing/big band
2000 - Amon Tobin's Supermodified turns me on to electronic music
2002 - Bach's Brandenburgs start classical/baroque obsession

Underclocked, Friday, 27 September 2002 02:07 (twenty-three years ago)

heh, rockist scientist, your taste has outed you!

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 27 September 2002 02:08 (twenty-three years ago)

1984/5ish (I don't remember, I was 7ish)- my dad bought me a walkman to keep me quiet on a family car trip vacation, and taped all his Beach Boys albums for me to listen to. Irreperable damage was done to my brain by said trip.

1995 - went to Boston for college, discovered going to shows, good friend got a radio show and made me some excellent mix tapes.

1999- got a job, finally could afford to buy more than 12 CDs a year. Also, 45 minute walk to work each day gave me time to really listen to music.


lyra (lyra), Friday, 27 September 2002 03:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Winging it:

1987ish: Listening to Top 40 stations in my bedroom while reading comics, while listening to classical music whenever I drive around w/ my mom. Rock music? What the hell's that?

1992: Pick up on "alt rock" craze via the Spin Doctors and Red Hot Chili Peppers. Ooooh, grunge - sounds fancy. Led Zeppelin & Metallica can bite my ass. Also attempt to conflate this w/ my fondness for Top 40 R&B. I still have a Ralph Tresvant tape somewhere, if you want it. And Babyface's "Whip Appeal" is a GREAT song. And I tell my mom to stick her Smetana up her Sibelius.

Somewhere in between, my neighborhood friends are listening to lots of rap - Too $hort, Slick Rick, Biz Markie. I think it sounds funny.

1993: COLLEGE! Roommate is a serious Britpop guy. With a fondness for Shudder to Think. He plays the Charlatans' "Can't Get Out of Bed" every time I oversleep; I learn to hate that fucking song. Fugazi plays at UConn; I have no idea who the hell they are. Lots of Pearl Jam & Alice in Chains. A G & R fan on my floor steals my copies of _Ten_ and _Mariah Carey_. I could KILL.

1994: Full-on indie rocker. Dogma and everything. First concert = Velocity Girl w/ Magic Hour & Damn Near Red (yeah, them) - this might've been '93, though. (That Phish show I went to DOES NOT COUNT.) Also see Archers of Loaf & Mary Timony w/ Joan Wasser. Hit my head on the punk rock hard. Ah, but I am in love with _Superunknown_ & _The Downward Spiral_. And _Exile in Guyville_. And _Ruby Vroom_. Don't ask me about anything that isn't "hip".

1995: Buy my own CD player. Is that EVER important!

1996/7: You though I was indie rock then?!? Oh no no no no no. Two words: Simple Machines. Why songs written by 2 women in the thick of DC punk rockdom struck such a chord in me that I A) can now sing a good number of their songs from memory and B) follow every single musical recommendation they offer, I can't say. Maybe I just had a severe crush on 'em. (Maybe, he sez.) But, yeah, The Three Artists That Changed My Life - Tsunami, Franklin Bruno, Ida - all came into my life around this time. I also get around to figuring out that, hey, there was some good music made in the 60s! I own one Tribe Called Quest CD. And I am such a dogmatic little indie snob that my friends almost disown me.

Oh. And I also learn about this internet thing, and I create my li'l website, where I talk about Tsunami & Franklin Bruno & Ida until even I get sick of it. Reading the works of Mark Prindle and glenn mcdonald keep me up many a night.

1998: Ah, indie pop, how I love your amateurish beauty. And you are CLEARLY so much better than that Pearl Jam shit, for damn sure. (_Yield_ is pretty damn good, though.) I spend a good portion of this year on the road, shuttling between Manchester, CT and Cambridge, MA often twice / 3 times a week - that's 6+ hours on the road, kids. The Middle East upstairs becomes my 2nd home. Newbury Comics is the friend's house I never leave. I also pick up a guitar, and start annoying my roommates even more. I have no idea what sleep is anymore. I also acknowledge the teeny pop movement at my website. I'm such a dirty little rockist - someone slap me, please. My music collection grows at an exponential rate (and this is w/ me being ultra-selective).

2001: Freaky Trigger. NYLPM. I LOVE MUSIC. Completely blows my stupid little prejudices (re: mainstream rap, dance music, pop music, the stuff w/ the guitars, etc etc etc) out of the water, one at a time. God help me and my credit card. Everything all at once forever. And it keeps on coming.


David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 27 September 2002 03:07 (twenty-three years ago)

1997-2002 - My years in the college media, putting together a paper, running a radio stations music department and acting somewhat as a booker (though I refuse that title) gave me more work then I ever needed. I also was door guy more often then I care to mention. Go through more records on a weekly basis then most students here in there 4 years at school.
1988 - The year that rock went stale and rap beat rock at its own game.
1991 - Pure retrospect. Nevermind (relative dud nowdays) versus the classics Loveless and Screamadelica. 'Quick name those three albums in order of preference'! Every Canadian artist lists them 1.. Loveless, 2. Nevermind ("but it sounded big at the time") 3. Screamadelica.
And if they don't, Im glad I ddin't have to write about them.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Friday, 27 September 2002 03:56 (twenty-three years ago)

1997-2002 - My years in the college media, putting together a paper, running a radio stations music department and acting somewhat as a booker (though I refuse that title) gave me more work then I ever needed. I also was door guy more often then I care to mention. Go through more records on a weekly basis then most students here in there 4 years at school.
1988 - The year that rock went stale and rap beat rock at its own game.
1991 - Pure retrospect. Nevermind (relative dud nowdays) versus the classics Loveless and Screamadelica. 'Quick name those three albums in order of preference'! Every Canadian artist lists them 1.. Loveless, 2. Nevermind ("but it sounded big at the time") 3. Screamadelica.
And if they don't, Im glad I din't have to write about them.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Friday, 27 September 2002 03:56 (twenty-three years ago)

didn't, take three. Graham (or moderators) feel free to delete one of the above, or both if you care.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Friday, 27 September 2002 03:57 (twenty-three years ago)

summer 2002 - a month without a job, and access to a digital cable box with MTV Jams on 24/7.

winter 1996/1997 - Get Coltrane's Live at Birdland and realized that Lou Barlow was whining too much and that he was getting laid becuase of it, anyways.

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Friday, 27 September 2002 04:45 (twenty-three years ago)

first record, the 45 of "Eye of the Tiger," b-day gift from my sister, must have been '82 or '83

Introduced to the Smiths and R.E.M. in 1989 via a friend's brother, I'm 14, really should have been familiar with Descendents Dickies Minor Threat by this time but I was in a private school in Kansas and NO ONE was punk...

1990, at the same school, but 120 Minutes and glossy mags turn me onto my new fave bands the Pixies, JAMC, MBV, Dino Jr., Echo and the Bunnymen, Sonic Youth

1991 R.E.M. flexi of "Dark Globe" cover in Sassy inspires me to buy Syd Barret's Madacap Laughs which leads me to suspect there is grebt music that doesn't get a lot of press every week in the glossy mags

1993 after 2 years of coasting I discover Matador and Drag City and begin workign my way thru their catalogs

1994-present have pretty much heard most popular indie/pop/rock musics and got bored around '99 with almost all of it, but since then too broke to afford to buy anything off the 400+ item wish list I've built up of more adventurous stuff, and couldn't afford DSL during the napster heyday, so...

2002 i ahev a big wish list

i too am drunk after seeing Wilco tonight. It was okay... but I thought they would put on a shambling Replacementsesque drunken RAWKSHOW; this was not that at all.


Aaron A., Friday, 27 September 2002 06:04 (twenty-three years ago)

1971 : First TOTP epiphany
1977 : 16 yrs old - The Sex Pistols, Donna Summer, Chic, Northern Soul, Girls
1978 : Buzzcocks, Althea and Donna on TOTP
1979 : Joy Division
1981/2 : University. Factory, Human League, ABC, Associates.Could new pop sweep all before it?
1987 : Back at Uni. Reggae, Pet Shop Boys.
1995 : Finally in a great band.
1996 : Band breaks up
2000 : ILM
2002 : Start band again.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 27 September 2002 06:21 (twenty-three years ago)

like dr c, but without the band, and a bit more embarrassing.
1974. Slik and Status Quo at Coryton disco, devon
1978. punk hits the Outer West. Year Zero.
1979. (White Man) in Hammersmith Palais is number one in John Peel's festive 50. Year Zero squared.
1980. John Peel announces the death of ian curtis. Year Zero divided by Pi.
1984. Top of the Pops epiphany: just as I thought I'd run out of mathematical metaphors for the impact of Year Zero, the Smiths' first appearance.
1987. alone in soft sleeper carriage of the Guiyang-Chengdu express (China), Walkman on, mountains outside, I finally 'get' roots reggae. Burning Spear's Man in the Hills was the album. Why did everything great happen in 1978-80?
1989/90. a student again, just as that Manchester thing happens. Hooray! it's Year Zero again! They wear flares! and we thought WE were rebels! Via samples, discover rest of black music. Gosh, a lot of that stuff was good in 1978-80, too...

It's been a matter of following one's nose ever since. Perhaps I'm too old for Great Musical Years; or perhaps music is delivering fewer Year Zero possibilities.

jon (jon), Friday, 27 September 2002 06:58 (twenty-three years ago)

I refuse to cut it up in years, nor do I want to use lists and position some records as more important. Ah fuck it, Madonna had the hugest impact. Until the age of about ten, I only listened to Northern soul (and occasionally HOt Chocolate and Grease soundtrack). After that it was music channel, Madonna and so on and so on. It's all a blur really.

nathalie (nathalie), Friday, 27 September 2002 07:16 (twenty-three years ago)

1979 - First adventures in sound

1981-82 - Teenage prejudices are destroyed by the new pop

1984 start buying NME

Early 90's and beyond car boot culture with people disposing of their vinyl leading to buying loads of obscure (and not so obscure) stuff, total genre whoredom.

2001 ILM say no more

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Friday, 27 September 2002 07:29 (twenty-three years ago)

Eh, why not... this is an interesting thread.

1986: I'm a 10-year-old in Brooklyn, NY, and I don't own many records yet but I've got the radio at my disposal -- Z-100 (teenybopper pop, VERY little rock), KISS-FM and WBLS (hip-hop/soul/"quiet storm"), Hot 97 (in the golden age of bubblesalsa and prefab girl groups), CBS-FM (Motown, AM Gold, Elvis).

1988: Junior high school begins. A couple of kids are into metal and I get into it too (radio: a New Jersey metal station called WSOU) -- I also start getting very into punk rock (Sex Pistols, Sonic Youth) and folk music (mostly Dylan). Also, I'd sung a bit as a child, but 1988 was the first year I started to take the study and performance of music seriously -- took piano lessons, learned how to read music, sang with choral groups, put together a "band" (I guess) with some schoolmates who could play instruments.

1991: I begin high school as a sophomore. Nevermind comes out and I like it well enough. I enjoy a few grunge things, even the dreaded Pearl Jam (although I'd abandon them by the second album), but my tastes begin to eclectify -- hardcore punk, no wave, jazz, trad English folk, '70s power pop, classic rock. I inherit some Rolling Stone Record Guides and biographies and stuff from my dad, and I read EVERYTHING.

1995-1998: I started college in 1994 in NYC, but my REAL college experience begins in 1995, when in sophomore year I transfer to an upstate New York college with a real honest to god campus. I make music-nerd friends, I do the newspaper bit and the radio station bit, I frequently skip classes to hang out in the station's massive CD/vinyl libraries, listening, taping, working on setlists for my show, taking chances and getting an AMAZING crash course, esp. in the worlds of jazz (bebop/hard bop/'70s fusion/Latin jazz) and 20th century classical. In 1996 I fall in love with someone who's really into Dylan -- and he helps me "get" The Basement Tapes and turns me on to the Anthology of American Folk Music, which is released on CD right around this time. He also makes me about two dozen mixtapes (over the course of 3 1/2 years), most of them very good, and me being Jody Beth Rosen, I reciprocate with about two dozen of my own, most of them sort of good.

1999: I buy Wowee Zowee and discover that I like Pavement.

2000: I make a (platonic) friend whose tastes and philosophies so uncannily resemble mine (minus the Dylan infatuation and some of the chick music) that we start an ongoing "hey, we must be the same person" joke that will rear its head whenever we "jinx" each other, which is a little too often. He likes Devo and Yoko Ono and Donna Summer and Penderecki and the Circle Jerks and Jean Michel Jarre and Throbbing Gristle and Adam Ant and Neu! -- and we spend the next couple years influencing and inspiring each other in all kinda ways. One of those truly great friendships.

2001: I spend most of this year (esp. post-9/11) being a cynical, bitter asshole, and I listen to a fuckload of reissues, biding my time until new music gets good again.

2002: I'm poor, but between SoulSeek, promos, and used-bin finds, I listen to more music than ever, even more than in my radio-station days. I decide to take a new approach towards music -- I will look for reasons why something's good rather than just constantly being twatty about how boring/overrated/awful everything is (I mean, I've been plenty disillusioned with Rolling Stone and the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame and VH1 and all the "if you don't like the Beatles, you don't like music" bullshit, but I refuse to let any of that tarnish my enjoyment of the music itself -- I don't want to be partypooped out of liking something I've always liked, no matter how silly that something is, and when something's new to my ears, I don't want to declaratively HATE it if I don't automatically love it right away). The thing about music is that you're never done listening to it -- there's no point at which your comprehension of a piece of music is complete, and so onward I trudge into repeatbuttonland...

Jody Beth Rosen, Friday, 27 September 2002 07:51 (twenty-three years ago)

What I said on this thread still applies:
When did music cease being furniture?

although that entry doesn't really make clear that 1979-1983 were the years I was both making my own music and making the most discoveries record-wise. I suppose the Uni years (1983-6) were also important.

Jeff W (Jeff W), Friday, 27 September 2002 07:54 (twenty-three years ago)

1987 - pump up the volume
2001 - i love music

michael wells (michael w.), Friday, 27 September 2002 08:21 (twenty-three years ago)

1959: Miles Davis' Kind Of Blue released
1963: I am born. My first words are allegedly "yeah yeah yeah", singing along to "She Loves You...." by The Beatles - at first glance this might appear to suggest that I was not yet mature, sophisticated and pretentious enough to condemn The Beatles as the most overrated band in popular music; however it should be noted in my defence that Captain Beefheart, The Doors, MC5, Pink Floyd, Rolling Stones, Small Faces, Stooges, and Who have all yet to be formed / release anything.
1967: I am far too preoccupied with primary school to even be aware that the Summer Of Love is going on. The Velvet Underground & Nico and Safe As Milk by Captain Beefheart are released, but no-one bothers to interrupt my finger-painting class to tell me.
1969: Kick Out The Jams (MC5), Monster Movie (Can), the first Stooges album and Trout Mask Replica are all released but once again, no-one bothers to inform me.
1973: I first really become interested in pop / rock music - Bowie, Bolan, Glitter, Roxy Music, Slade, Sweet.... I am intrigued by pictures of the New York Dolls but miss their appearance on Old Grey Whistle Test because unfortunately it's a school night and the show is on well past my bedtime.
1977: I hear the immortal words "Is she really going out with him" and nothing will ever be the same again - Buzzcocks, Clash, Damned, Ramones, Sex Pistols, Talking Heads, Vibrators, Wire....
1978: Banshees, Fall, Magazine, Penetration, Pere Ubu, PiL, Slits, XTC....
1979: Cure, Bauhaus, Joy Division, Killing Joke,
1980: Joined a band myself for the first time. We are complete crap, but it is enormous fun.
1983: Aztec Camera, Prefab Sprout, REM, The Smiths,
1987: Pixies

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 27 September 2002 09:44 (twenty-three years ago)

1993-1996: sees ian curtis on the telly and is very impressed. goes to the rec library the next day and get 'Substance' compilation. goes on to buy indie fairly regurlarly. also starts digging warp type electronic music. sticks around with this as he has no money to 'dig deep'.

1997-99: buys a copy of trout mask replica. starts asking questions and listening more 'critically'.

1999-present: starts listening to free jazz, and more importantly free improv. soon enough starts digging all sorts of musique concrete and 20th century classical. also ILM emerges, stops listening as much and starts talking about music more.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 27 September 2002 10:01 (twenty-three years ago)

1988 - listen to Abbey Road on mom's record player, am permanently hooked to music

mid 90s - gradually shift from quirky pop of Beatles/XTC/Queen and occasional out-music to Zorn/Can/Boredoms w/sometimes normal stuff. Oh, and major in music perf (always forget that).

2001 - ILM says, "pop is worth your time"

dleone (dleone), Friday, 27 September 2002 11:50 (twenty-three years ago)

'84-Went as a fancy dress competetition dressed as Adam Ant (Apollo 9 ear). Mr T won.

'92-Nirvana, indie and punk rock

'98-I went to raves before that year but it wasnt until '98 that I embraced it totally

'00-Discovered ilm

Michael Bourke, Friday, 27 September 2002 14:15 (twenty-three years ago)

Went TO a fancy dress competition

Michael Bourke, Friday, 27 September 2002 14:16 (twenty-three years ago)

so the Adam Ant's ear bit is NOT a typo? ;)

Jeff W (Jeff W), Friday, 27 September 2002 14:22 (twenty-three years ago)

I'll go with one: 1987/8/or9. A retro-50s ice cream place opened up in the little Iowa town I grew up in. They had a Wurlitzer bubbling jukebox with all the original 45s in it. I was around 10. I fell in love with Del Shannon's "Runaway," begging dimes (dimes!) to play it. It seemed so huge and colorful and bizarre, so different in texture and content than the rest, so much more lacerating and fun than the poodlerock my friends were starting to make their parents buy for them. That's the standard.

cut to 02, discovery of ILM (also huge, colorful & bizarre).

g.cannon (gcannon), Friday, 27 September 2002 15:17 (twenty-three years ago)

1977: As a youngin' listened to Rumours and Eagles Greatest Hits on a cross country road trip.
1981-1982: MTV introduces me to Devo, Eurythmics and Duran Duran.
1983: Best friend introduces me to Punk and the Beatles. Shoplifted Rio and Regatta de Blanc
1985: Cousin introduces me to Dylan. Bought my first cassette with my own money... Stings Dream of the Blue Turtles, (Yes, I apologize...)
1987: Discovered MTV's 120 Minutes, fall in love with the Cure, Siouxsie and the Banshees, Psych Furs, Sinead O'Connor
Early 1988: To my utter regret got Bruce Willis's Revenge of Bruno, resolved in disgust to never buy another record on a whim as long as I lived. (Haven't followed through with that threat yet.)
Late 1988: Discovered Public Enemy. Bought first bunch of CD's: Pornography, Diesel and Dust, Watermark, Velvet Underground and Nico, Lion and the Cobra and Rust Never Sleeps (still have all but 'Rust')
1991: Smashing Pumpkins Gish (Phuck Nirvana, this is 20x better!); Discovered Kraftwerk and Pixies. Discovered that some country and western didn't suck.
1993-1995: Got into a massive 2-year long set of tape swaps. Added too many discoveries to list.
Late 1999: Napster! Napster! Napster! Got into a massive 2-year long set of mp3 trading. Added too many discoveries to list.
Early 2000: Discovered Freakytrigger ILM. The future has been bright ever since.

Lord Custos Alpha (Lord Custos Alpha), Friday, 27 September 2002 15:24 (twenty-three years ago)

78 - Parents have party discover Barry White at 4 yrs old.
80 - Hear Beach Boys Pet Sounds for the first time.
84 - Van Frickin Halen 1984 comes out. Blows me away.
88 - Discover the Smiths, REM, CLash, Psychedelic Furs, Cure, the Police, Ramones, Joy Division....my whole idea of what music was and is changes.
93 - Spin Doctors "Pocket Full of Kryptonite" is responsible for my first attempt at suicide.
2002 - ILM

Chris V. (Chris V), Friday, 27 September 2002 16:01 (twenty-three years ago)

1977 - 1981: aged 17-21
Paradigm shift over the winter of '77 /'78 - from music as a sometimes exciting/beautiful/cathartic but nonetheless ultimately 'distractive' experience (performing something like a 'dungeons & dragons' or 'sport' type function - can be an important part of your life but feels of limited connectivity/application to the rest of it) - into music as meaning, and being everything it ever could be to me: encapsulating resonant metaphoric representation of world-view, personal/social signifier, perception-broadening means of connecting to other areas of thought/knowledge, and a framework for a kind of understanding.

Soundtrack: Mid-late 70's electronics, proto and 1st wave industrial, electronic disco, Krautrock, BBC Radiophonic Workshop (given a tour round by Brian Hodgson in '79), early 'ambient', some Dub, early synth-pop (eg Human League demo tape) and pre-new-romantic synthy-rock (eg Uvox albums 2 & 3, S.Minds albums 2-4), some avant-garde stuff, and some early so-called 'post-punk'....

(Kept meaning to do a longer version of this kind of thing as part of the 'Introduce Yourselves' thread - but thanks for the opportunity here jess)

Ray M (rdmanston), Friday, 27 September 2002 16:11 (twenty-three years ago)

1989 - first rock album - Alice Cooper "trash". Beginning of metal years
1992 - dinosaur jr,teenage fanclub, more indie, forgot about metal
1993/4 - Start recording songs on tape recorders. Sub pop!
1998 - I'm through being cool, dug out all my old poison, megadeth, slayer, bon jovi tapes and decided I might as well listen to whatever, and stop buying crappy music magazines.
2002 - If I like it, I like it

jel -- (jel), Friday, 27 September 2002 16:11 (twenty-three years ago)

1988-I WOKE UP NAKED ON A BEACH IN IBIZA

2001-I went to see Jon Carter for the first time with my brother, his wife, and my best friend. I'd never been in the Kitchen nightclub in Dublin before and I loved the place, and the evening. Me and best mate decided to go back to the Kitchen the next week on a whim, after a college freshers ball thing turned out to be shit. I bumped into my brother's friend Phil, whom I vaguely knew, he said we could get in free to the Kitchen every week. So we started going and getting drunk there all the time, and went from knowing one tune like Superstylin' or Where's Your Head At, to knowing 5 or 6, early ones were Thrill Me by Junior Jack, or Soulshaker by Max Linen. Then around February it was my friend's birthday and he suggested we ask Phil to let us into the Darren Emerson gig he was promoting. Phil obliged, and so we had a fucking incredible night, heard La Mouche for the first time, decided this clubbing thing was pretty slick. So we kept going to the Kitchen, and in between saw Jon Carter again a few times, then eventually Tivoli opened and Kitchen closed, David Holmes, Dave Angel, Billy Nasty, Joey Negro, Jon Carter again and again, Harry Choo Choo Romero, Erick Morillo, more and more djs over and over again, X-Press 2 a few times, Orbital at Glastonbury (we've moved into 2002 now), Chemical Brothers, Underworld at Creamfields, and Darren Emerson again last week, fittingly. Still loving it really.

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 27 September 2002 16:34 (twenty-three years ago)

I will only cover the first four years, perhaps my most formative years:

76: Mother gives birth while an advance copy of Leon Ware's Musical Massage plays in the background. A couple months later, I am taken to a Funkadelic show and am hoisted onto stage; George Clinton carries me over to Bernie Worrell and I improv on the keyboards with my feet (held up by Worrell) as the group plays "Standing on the Verge of Getting It On."

77: I purchase my first record with money from first birthday party -- the Stooges' Fun House. Father attempts to get me into punk rock, but it doesn't quite work. "Dad-eee, dose men hab boo-grrs aww ober dare shirts."

78: Purchase second album -- Magazine's Real Life. I like the funny keyboards and my mom won't let me grow my hair like Barry Adamson. Favorite song of the year is Fat Mama Kick (some of the notes remind me of the "oops you lost" notes played on the Price Is Right). Also a notable year for my first visits to the Paradise Garage and Better Days.

79: Am horribly frightened by Metal Box and am sent to my room after I brain my best friend Tony with its packaging (he wanted to watch Slim Goodbody; I wanted to watch Thunderbirds). I also use Metal Box as a substitute for a TV tray and get jelly stains all over it. Dad refuses to buy me a second copy, but it's okay 'cause it scared me anyhow. François K hooks me up with some rare Prelude remixes.

Andy K (Andy K), Friday, 27 September 2002 16:38 (twenty-three years ago)

There are no years for me. My father spent his whole life trying to be a: country star, folk singer, rock star, southern rocker, etc., etc. Instead he played in a lot of mediocre bands and owned a record store and a bar. Growing up, every Thursday night (even after my folks split) he would set me down and play me records. I took to the Beatles immediately (I broke my first guitar on our refridgerator while listening to "Yer Blues"). Other faves of his that he played me took more time, mainly: Gram Parsons, the Byrds, Les Paul, Merle Travis, Carter Family and Doc Watson.

The first time that I really sought out music for myself was in the 3rd grade, where I formed a Beach Boys fan club with two cousins. We had a tree house where we would go listen to my tape of their greatest hits on my shitty little boombox thing. Mainly I just really wanted to be in a club and loved the Beach Boys. My cousins had a tree house, so they got to join too.

First "indie" band I got into: Uncle Tupelo when Still Feel Gone came out. I was probably 12 or so then. My dad really liked them. They played at his club several times right before he sold it. I saw many bands play there, but I never caught Uncle Tupelo. I heard them enough from my dad.

Didn't discover punk until a Musician article in 1994 on Green Day. Then I got really into the Dead Kennedys and the Clash. From there took the standard indie route (Pavement, Archers of Loaf, Slint) while interning at the local college radio station (WUVT) during high school. Most of the records I bought because the older DJs and the guy at the local record store (Butch, who now runs Squealor Records) were really nice and really cool. So I bought albums to please them. Most of them I didn't really like at the time. Only Archers hit me first thing. "Web in Front" was my favorite song for ages.

My dad taught me guitar at age 7, mainly bluegrass stuff. Played in bands with my dad a few times (hence my love for the Marshall Tucker Band), but got sick of the guitar and quit. I play occassionally now. The point of this: my dad wanted me to be a rock star. I knew I could not, but I knew that I could write. So he encouraged me to be a music writer instead. So I read everything that I could. Musician was my favorite magazine by far, especially JD Considine's short album reviews.

Oh, to cover another base: my first show was Little Feat when I was two.

Yancey (ystrickler), Friday, 27 September 2002 16:57 (twenty-three years ago)

Without a doubt my first semester at college: Fall 1999. The combination of living on a hall with many many music lovers, discovering Napster and having the bandwidth to download everything, and getting into 'gateway bands' (Underworld, Faith No More, De La Soul) led to countless musical discoveries.

There was also some year one friend introduced me to Depeche Mode, PSB, and the Cure. That year was important too. :)

Vinnie (vprabhu), Friday, 27 September 2002 17:22 (twenty-three years ago)

Obviously, 1970 (Hendrix, Zep), 1977 (PUNK is born), 1984 (SST records heyday), 1991 (Nirvana), 1998. Great music comes in seven year cycles, you know.

charlie va, Friday, 27 September 2002 18:40 (twenty-three years ago)

charlie has today's new theory!

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 27 September 2002 18:52 (twenty-three years ago)

Crossing my fingers for 2005...

Yancey (ystrickler), Friday, 27 September 2002 18:57 (twenty-three years ago)

"New" theory. Pshaw. I had that stewing in my gullet back in '97. AND what the hell happened in 1998 that's so earth shattering? Oh, wait - Britney!

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 27 September 2002 19:40 (twenty-three years ago)

1989: Disgusted by the shoddiness of the new Whitesnake album and bored by the burgeoning baggy scene*, I stop buying or listening to new music, without any thought of whether my layoff will last a few months or a lifetime. It lasts eight years, long enough for grunge to come and go.

1997: Picking up model airplane supplies at a strip mall hobby shop**, I wander into the record store next door and buy Stereolab's Mars Audio Quintet and two other CDs that look different from anything I had seen or heard before.

2000: New home iMac, CD burner and cable modem spell downloading frenzy, AMG/ezine/hyperlink addiction. Friend opens record store. Friend shares promos. More music more music more music.

*I've never heard a Whitesnake album, nor cared one way or the other about baggy. My disgust and boredom was general.

**I've never shopped for model airplane supplies. I don't recall what led me to buy my first CDs of new music in eight years, nor how I spent my free time in the years in between.

Curt (cgould), Friday, 27 September 2002 19:51 (twenty-three years ago)

AND what the hell happened in 1998 that's so earth shattering? Oh, wait - Britney!

Haha definitely. I was gonna put Creed in there, but I thought that would make the joke less funny. Michael Azerrad (the author of that recent indie book) made an actually serious 8-year cycle theory argument in a CMJ article in '99 or so. It was like '76, '84, '92 and "Have heart, we're due."

charlie va, Friday, 27 September 2002 19:58 (twenty-three years ago)

1985: Somehow, probably via my brother, I acquire a cassette tape of the soundtrack to the movie Repo Man. Being seven years old, I have no idea what a repo man is, what that line "if she'll have your dog" at the end of "Bad Man" means, what a "Coup D'Etat" involves or how important to rock music Iggy Pop and Steve Jones were. I dive headlong into punk rock before I'm old enough to see a PG-13 movie alone, and though I never really much followed up on the general punk scene it filed itself away in my brain for convenient further usage. It is also around this year that my family goes on a road trip to Chicago, where The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan and The Best of Them featuring Van Morrison feature prominently in the tape deck.
1992: In the midst of a period where most of my time is spent discovering Nirvana and Sonic Youth (OK, and Pearl Jam -- I wanna be honest with myself here) and scouring the local used record store for old LPs by Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd, I let it slip to my brother during a trip to the aforementioned store that I liked the 3rd Bass tape he was playing when I was at his apartment once. He reaches up to pull out a cassette from the shelf, encased in one of those ridiculous long theft-proof plastic security cases. "You'll probably like this, then," he says, handing me the tape: De La Soul is Dead.
1994: Thanks to the hardcore tracks on the Beastie Boys' Ill Communication; the Ramones' classic rock pisstake/tribute Acid Eaters and (wait for it...) Green Day, I am beginning to renew an interest in punk rock. I scan through various rock history books in an attempt to educate myself, but it's not until I find used LP copies of the Ramones' debut and the Clash's London Calling that it all starts to come together.
1996: I finally start playing hip-hop catchup, snagging copies of The Low End Theory, Ghostface Killah's Ironman and (surprise!) Mobb Deep's Hell On Earth. Another odd find in the used LP bins: Hartouse: The Point of No Return Vol. 1. I'd previously attempted to branch out into techno via some ridiculous comp like Zoo Rave 1 or something, but it didn't stick with me. This did. Later that year I am up at one in the morning, headphones on, listening to LPs when I decide on a whim to turn on the local non-corporate alt/hipster radio station. What I hear is some strange instrumental amalgamation of hip-hop, funk and beats hard enough to dent my skull. I scramble for a blank tape and hit the record button, catching the last minute or two of the song, but it ends with nary a mention by the DJ of who performed it. I would later find out the name of this song: "Leave Home", by the Chemical Brothers.
1999: I start listening more intently to college radio than ever before, picking up on tons of bands I'd otherwise not know a damn thing about -- the Make-Up, Fantastic Plastic Machine, Wilco, Built to Spill, Lifter Puller, Stereolab, and the Magnetic Fields.
2001: I get DSL. Audiogalaxy is my pusherman. I gain fifty new favorite bands within months.

Nate Patrin, Friday, 27 September 2002 20:28 (twenty-three years ago)

you like the magnetic fields HAHAHAHAHAA UR GAY

Jody Beth Rosen, Friday, 27 September 2002 20:48 (twenty-three years ago)

1992 - buy double nickles on the dime by the minutemen. it officially changes my life

simon 803 (simon 803), Saturday, 28 September 2002 02:06 (twenty-three years ago)


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