Bowie Berlin Triptych v Dylan Xtian Triptych

Bowie's Berlin Triptych is generally seen as his artistic highpoint, while Dylan's Christian Triptych is generally seen as his artistic nadir though right? Neither of these views are correct by the way.

Well, maybe that was Bowie's highpoint. Low at least.

possible arguable effects of these releases in 'outside world' -
Berlin records make it possible for even disposable glam rockers to make 'art records' (ie record presented as justified-thing-in-itself), perhaps widening possibilities for artists from similar fields to work without as much interference/masterplans superimposed for business considerations (maybe this was just a window for bands that was open for only a short few years before the biz caught on to how to deal with nu-wavers, but it probably inspired more people to vary their approaches than 'Bollocks' ever did - at least ppl who got recorded anyway
Dylan records allowed the mystic new age post-60s tribe to allow more extreme Xtian varieties back into the MindBodySpiritetc fold. (of COURSE 'STC' is going to be the dave q Dylan pick, come on! Lyrically sloppy as hell as well as being self-righteous and hectoring, I love the chick bvs and Knopfler's gtr playing too!)Missing the point of course - the lyric "You talk of Buddha and Mohammed in one breath, but you never mention the man who died a criminal's death" was probably taken by them as "Yeah, forgot about that one, thanks Bob! Note to self - remember to purchase Bible to stick on shelf next to Crowley, Dianetics, Celestine Prophecy etc" - but new agers hire veritable armies of people to help them miss the point of stuff. (Yeah that's a putdown courtesy Mark S I know. I said that the other day to someone, "Do you, like, HIRE people to help you miss the point of everything?" Thanx mark) However weird they are though they are an actual subculture. (Another observation for people from/in small towns - isn't it weird how the 'most interesting/eccentric' person in Possumcrotch is always the world's flakiest bore when in a large city? All of a sudden their endless proselytizing for hemp shoes and vegetable animism don't seem refreshingly nonconformist anymore, just embarrassing. Like if you knew where I was from, the amount of religious fucking weirdness going on, it was unbelievable, like nowhere I've seen since. Snake-handling, people being confirmed born-againers except also believing they were reincarnated from alien superbeings etc, and if you see the contradiction in this then you can imagine what they were like in their positions on city government - yeah they ran the place! Small towns rool OK) The other thing about 'STC' is that I listened to it the other night very very very stoned (goes great with the apocalyptic visions and jeremaids) and I STILL could not get past that animal song without turning it off. How bad does something have to be before you can't even leave it on in that state? Maybe it's the jarring change of tone, goes from being a weird scary spittle-flecked wino ranting album to being a kids' record. If that was intentional, score one to Bob!