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What do you thnk about The Eagles? I mean,what do you think about the song "New Kid in Town"? What do you think the song means? Could you reply to me ASAP?

Rosa, Monday, 30 September 2002 20:39 (twenty-three years ago)

The eagles totally sucked ass...they were responsible for more weak, lame, unsinspired mullet rock than any other lame margarita-swillin' crew from that era...

singing drummers? That shit's so lame.

'Boys of Summer' is the only exception. That song kicks ass.

rms (rms), Monday, 30 September 2002 20:42 (twenty-three years ago)

i officially don't know who to hate around here anymore.

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 30 September 2002 20:44 (twenty-three years ago)

"Boys of Summer" was Henley solo, man. If you're going to hate, get your facts straight.

The Eagles embodied everything that was wrong with rock'n'roll prior to the advent of Punk Rock.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 30 September 2002 20:46 (twenty-three years ago)

did you miss the newsletter, jess?

Mitch Lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Monday, 30 September 2002 20:46 (twenty-three years ago)

punk: "no more naming bands after creatures of the air, then"

Mitch Lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Monday, 30 September 2002 20:47 (twenty-three years ago)

"p.s. hawkwind are okay though"

Yancey (ystrickler), Monday, 30 September 2002 20:55 (twenty-three years ago)

"Could you reply to me ASAP?"

Forgive the lateness of my reply. The Eagles suck soft rock ass.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Monday, 30 September 2002 20:58 (twenty-three years ago)

Hating the Eagles=single most predictable critical stance there is.

"New Kid in Town" is about how the only record anybody likes is a band's first album; to the best of my knowledge it is the first commercially successful song to decry player-hating.

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 30 September 2002 21:02 (twenty-three years ago)

Sometimes the obvious path is the correct one. Like with the Eagles, for instance...

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Monday, 30 September 2002 21:05 (twenty-three years ago)

Because without my Unpredictable Critical Stance Cred I'm nothing...

rms (rms), Monday, 30 September 2002 21:14 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't know about that though - it seems like the Eagles are the pop-lovers' outlet for any pop-hate they've got lying around inside of 'em

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 30 September 2002 21:20 (twenty-three years ago)

Yes, the eagles are scum-sucking hacks, but as the years roll by I find myself digging "Lying Eyes" more and more... the perfect picture of slimeball, coke-fueled, faux-country LA infidelity... I feel guilty about liking the song, and the sins of which they sing.

Bernie Leadon's pretty cool, though.

andy, Monday, 30 September 2002 21:24 (twenty-three years ago)

That's the thing - I think the Eagles are a little more meta- than anybody gives them credit for, and they're a sort of Lord of the Flies for a lot of folks' hatred/resentment/mild dislike of the seventies

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 30 September 2002 21:26 (twenty-three years ago)

Funny - one critically acclaimed album turns of bunch of soft-rock critical whipping boys into one of the most respected classic rock bands ever.

My name is Kenny, Monday, 30 September 2002 21:47 (twenty-three years ago)

eagles make me wanna punch stuff (in the bad way of that feeling)

ddd, Monday, 30 September 2002 22:33 (twenty-three years ago)

The Eagles embodied everything that was wrong with rock'n'roll prior to the advent of Punk Rock.
Now Entered Devils Advocate Mode...
I think the Eagles have gotten enough abuse that it should by now be considered subversive and hip to say NICE things about them.
So Here's my thoughts on the Eagles.

* They made terrible albums, but very nifty, laid back singles.
* They were the apex of the SoCal crop (quick, besides the Eagles and Linda Rondstadt, who made anything worth remembering from that scene. Didn't think you could.)
* Their Greatest Hits is an amusing record with lots of nifty things on it. Like the Soundtrack to Saturday Night Fever it has all the cream of the crop from that dismal time period and genre. (read: SoCal Snoozer Rock | DeFunkified Disco, respectively.)
* At the same time, the songs on Their Greatest Hits are plaid incessently on the Classic Rock stations, so it might be unnessessary to buy the record.

Lord Custos Alpha (Lord Custos Alpha), Monday, 30 September 2002 22:42 (twenty-three years ago)

The Eagles embodied everything that was wrong with rock'n'roll prior to the advent of Punk Rock.
Now Entered Devils Advocate Mode...
I think the Eagles have gotten enough abuse that it should by now be considered subversive and hip to say NICE things about them.
So Here's my thoughts on the Eagles.

* They made terrible albums, but very nifty, laid back singles.
* They were the apex of the SoCal crop (quick, besides the Eagles and Linda Rondstadt, who made anything worth remembering from that scene. Didn't think you could.)
* Their Greatest Hits is an amusing record with lots of nifty things on it. Like the Soundtrack to Saturday Night Fever it has all the cream of the crop from that dismal time period and genre. (read: SoCal Snoozer Rock | DeFunkified Disco, respectively.)
* At the same time, the songs on Their Greatest Hits are plaid incessently on the Classic Rock stations, so it might be unnessessary to buy the record.


eagles make me wanna punch stuff (in the bad way of that feeling)
Hmmm..."peaceful easy feeling" makes one have violent hard feelings. Who woulda thunk it?

Lord Custos Alpha (Lord Custos Alpha), Monday, 30 September 2002 22:43 (twenty-three years ago)

Like the Soundtrack to Saturday Night Fever it has all the cream of the crop from that dismal time period and genre. (read: SoCal Snoozer Rock | DeFunkified Disco, respectively.)

haha custos are there any opinions you hold which didn't come from spin/trouser press/120 minutes?

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 30 September 2002 22:44 (twenty-three years ago)

i quite like the eagles and i'm punkier than anyone on ilXoR
they aren't played much on UK radio though

mark s (mark s), Monday, 30 September 2002 22:44 (twenty-three years ago)

Ever get that feeling of deja vu?

Lord Custos Alpha (Lord Custos Alpha), Monday, 30 September 2002 22:45 (twenty-three years ago)

new kid in town is abt what the title says by the way

mark s (mark s), Monday, 30 September 2002 22:46 (twenty-three years ago)

haha custos are there any opinions you hold which didn't come from spin/trouser press/120 minutes?
I'm just stating the wisdom of old. Granted the wisdom of the senile sounds suspiciously similar...

Lord Custos Alpha (Lord Custos Alpha), Monday, 30 September 2002 22:46 (twenty-three years ago)

120 Minutes: dead
Trouser Press: dead
Spin: might as well be dead.

Lord Custos Alpha (Lord Custos Alpha), Monday, 30 September 2002 22:48 (twenty-three years ago)

I think the Eagles have gotten enough abuse that it should by now be considered subversive and hip to say NICE things about them.
..but some things are just bad.

woj, Monday, 30 September 2002 23:02 (twenty-three years ago)

I like some early Eagles stuff. Better than most of that ghastly punk.

Rockist Scientist, Monday, 30 September 2002 23:16 (twenty-three years ago)

"...besides the Eagles and Linda Rondstadt, who made anything worth remembering from that scene..."

The Byrds/Burritos/Gene Clark/Clarence White/Emmylou Harris/Dillards et al axis made the ONLY stuff worth remembering from that scene. All the other good stuff was from Texas (Guy Clarke, Townes Van Zant, etc.)...

Glen Frey & Linda Ronstadt put on the sugar-coating to what had been an ernest, earthy and organic musical uprising.. and subsequently got all the best Peruvian flake out of the deal. Poco got a couple lines as well...

andy, Monday, 30 September 2002 23:19 (twenty-three years ago)

Custos: Jackson Browne is like leagues better than anybody else from the mid-seventies California scene. So's David Lindley.

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Tuesday, 1 October 2002 00:33 (twenty-three years ago)

Custos: Jackson Browne is like leagues better than anybody else from the mid-seventies California scene.

Search: "Somebody's Baby," plus everything he wrote for Nico.
Destroy (violently): "The Load Out"/"Stay," and everything else, really.

Jody Beth Rosen, Tuesday, 1 October 2002 00:40 (twenty-three years ago)

Saturate Before Using is a great album from beginning to end, esp. "From Silver Lake" and "My Opening Farewell."

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Tuesday, 1 October 2002 00:44 (twenty-three years ago)

the eagles have some really great songs. new kid in town, one of these nights, lying eyes, i can't tell you why, take it to the limit. you aren't supposed to hate the eagles, you are supposed to feel sorry for them cos they are such undies men. they might be slick cokerock, but they are perfect to swill whisky to when yr in any mood.

di smith (lucylurex), Tuesday, 1 October 2002 01:15 (twenty-three years ago)

new kid in town is about being action man, then becoming an undies man and getting rejected for another action man.

di smith (lucylurex), Tuesday, 1 October 2002 01:18 (twenty-three years ago)

Eagles are classic for one reason only, they piss off Jerry Farwell or who ever that looney who was ranting about the satanic Teletubbies was. I could care less for their songs, since the few I know are limp, but they do symbolize whats wrong with music after punk rock; the reunion tours.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 1 October 2002 01:36 (twenty-three years ago)

They were the apex of the SoCal crop.

SoCal by way of Upstate NY = Steely Dan.

Shit, I think I'd take the fucking Doobie Brothers over the Eagles.

hstencil, Tuesday, 1 October 2002 02:04 (twenty-three years ago)

To pick a nit, I went to "my old school" Bard College, and it's not really upstate.

Sean (Sean), Tuesday, 1 October 2002 02:17 (twenty-three years ago)

hahah Darby Crash liked Yes! So Mark S you have a LONG way to go. Or sumfing. Or maybe not.

Jess, HATE ME. PLEASE. ;-)

nathalie (nathalie), Tuesday, 1 October 2002 05:48 (twenty-three years ago)

SoCal by way of Upstate NY = Steely Dan.

Upstate New York (Annandale-on-Hudson) by way of Queens and North Jersey.

Jody Beth Rosen, Tuesday, 1 October 2002 06:17 (twenty-three years ago)

I went to Bard too, and I think we covered that. Just about anything outside of NYC is Upstate, just like everything outside of Chicago is Downstate, yes?

hstencil, Tuesday, 1 October 2002 14:33 (twenty-three years ago)

I can think of two nice things to say about the Eagles:

1) They wrote "Desperado," so later on wee Sheila Behman could sing a heart-breaking version of it (on the Langley Schools Music Project album).
2) They did "Journey of the Sorceror" which was the theme of the BBC radio version of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.

That is all that comes to mind.

Ernest P., Tuesday, 1 October 2002 14:41 (twenty-three years ago)

No one on ILxOR is in the least bit "punky."

Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 1 October 2002 14:43 (twenty-three years ago)

I beg to differ.

Soleil Moon Frye, Tuesday, 1 October 2002 14:46 (twenty-three years ago)

QED.

Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 1 October 2002 14:47 (twenty-three years ago)

"'Boys of Summer' ... kicks ass."

This is true.

g.cannon (gcannon), Tuesday, 1 October 2002 14:49 (twenty-three years ago)

'Boys of Summer' ... kicks ass.
I know that all of Henley's songs sound alike - but I think it was ""Dirty Laundry" that kicks ass.

I don't have any use for the Eagles, but I can definitely think of worse bands and bands that more symbolize everything that was wrong with the music industry. Some of the Joe Walsh tunes are tolerable - like when they're played in public, I don't have to seek shelter from them... If I had to choose (and I don't) I'd take the Eagles over Journey, no question.

And in five years when critics start liking the Eagles, don't pretend you always thought they were cool. (Cuz they weren't. Stick to your convictions is what I mean. When the pro-Eagles revisionist zealot critics come, shoot 'em with a gun. And if they show their faces.. we'll laugh!)

dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 1 October 2002 16:04 (twenty-three years ago)


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