Top 10 most annoying rock star behaviors!!!

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A few months ago, we vented about the endless ways other fans annoy us at concerts. But that was really only half the battle: sometimes, it's the performers themselves who sabotage the show. Here are the 10 most annoying things that bands do at rock concerts.

1. Show up ridiculously late

Rock stars aren't accountants and nobody expects them to take the stage at the precise moment listed on the ticket. We get that. A little late is good, even. It gives everyone time to park, deal with will call, wait in the bathroom line and get a beer. But some artists routinely take the stage two, three or even four hours late; Axl Rose and Lauryn Hill, we're looking squarely at you here.

On the weekend, it's kind of okay because you can sleep in the next day, but on a weeknight, it's just infuriating. Guns N' Roses started some shows on their last American tour after midnight. Forty-five minutes after the opening act ends is about as late as it should go. Axl and Lauryn, we all love you, but we're sick of this bulls***. It's also extended into their ability to create new music, but that's a whole other story.

2. Exclude key band members

Some bands have members who just don't feel like being rock stars anymore. We understand that. When Christine McVie of Fleetwood Mac and Bill Wyman of the Rolling Stones decided to scale back their lives and get off the road, we would have all preferred to see them with their bands still. The shows suffered from their absence, but people have a right to quit. A band isn't the mafia.

What's infuriating is when in-fighting (almost always over money) deprives fans of the proper band. Right now, we have Van Halen without Michael Anthony, Black Sabbath without Bill Ward, New Order without Peter Hook, Slayer without Dave Lombardo, the Eagles without Don Felder and Kiss without Peter Criss and Ace Frehley.

In the case of Ace Frehley and Peter Criss, Kiss had the nerve to put other people in Peter and Ace's makeup. The drummer even sings "Beth" these days. It's insane. We're talking about human beings here. They aren't cogs in some machine. Each band listed above is worse off without the exiled members. The problem has become really acute over the past few years. We don't care what sort of issues you have offstage. Pull it together.

3. Play too much from the new album

We have no issue with bands playing a ton of their new material. It does, however, get annoying when you pay to see an artist and the vast majority of the show is new stuff, especially when that material is a pale imitation of the old stuff. There's a certain expectation when you buy a concert ticket (especially to an arena show) that you're going to hear songs from throughout an act's career. It's just hard for people to fully appreciate music they don't know very well.

Radiohead abandoned much of their 1990s work during their last tour. The result was a setlist that didn't change a ton from night to night, and many disappointed fans. Neil Young has occasionally taken this to the next level by playing an entire new album before it comes out. In June 2004, he took Crazy Horse out on the road and played Greendale straight through two months before it hit shelves. Three old songs were tacked on at the end. The ticket said "Neil Young and Crazy Horse" and there was no indication in any of the advertising that this was the case. The crowd at Germain Ampitheater in Columbus, for example, were beyond livid. By the end, they were singing "Hey Hey, My My" to themselves between songs, and you could practically taste the hostility and disappointment in the place.

4. Only perform the hits

The flip side of Number Three. Some artists have long catalogs of great songs, but their concerts tend to fall back on the same 15 songs they've been dragging out for decades. It's like eating 10 chocolate bars for dinner; it's not satisfying. You need to balance it out. Sure, the crowd loves to hear hits and you want to do anything you can to hold their attention, but you also need to challenge them a bit.

Tom Petty fell into this rut for much of the 2000s. He has enough songs to fill out an arena set and guarantee that they'll return when he comes back two years later, but the whole thing got tired and thankfully, he wised up with his recent theater tour. Let's hope that Elton John, Billy Joel, the Who and many others follow his example.

5. Play anything resembling a medley

Medleys were much more common back in the day, but some acts still think it's okay to string together a handful of songs into one godforsaken medley. The only thing worse than not hearing a song you love is hearing 30 seconds of it. It's a terrible tease.

Prince is the worst offender when it comes to this. We see where he's coming from – he has too many hits and not enough time – but a snippet of "When Doves Cry" isn't satisfying. Either play the whole thing or leave it out of the show.

6. Ignore the music of your beloved former band

John Fogerty hit the road in the 1980s and didn't play a single Creedence Clearwater Revival song. He had all sorts of business disputes that made him turn on the material, but he took it out on the fans. He came to his senses in the mid-1990s.

When you see someone like Pete Townshend, Paul Weller, Noel Gallagher, Morrissey or Ray Davies, you expect a certain amount of material from their former bands. Peter Gabriel has refused to do any Genesis songs since the 1970s, but he's had far more success on his own so it makes sense. Someone like Paul McCartney or Roger Waters would be crazy to make such a move.

7. Play perverse arrangements of your songs

We have no problem with artists playing different versions of their songs — but don't do it just to amuse yourself, people. Bob Dylan has been redoing his songs live for decades – his Hendrix-style version of "All Along the Watchtower" makes perfect sense, but we wish he'd skip the reggae version of "Don't Think Twice, It's All Right." If you don't believe us, put on Bob Dylan at Budokan, track five, and don't say we didn't warn you.

8. Never vary the setlist

A concert shouldn't feel like a Broadway show. It should feel like a unique experience, but some acts drag the same exact show around the globe for 18 months and never alter one note of it. Some acts feel they have figured out the perfect setlist that tells some sort of a story and builds to a series of climaxes. Do not believe them. There is no such thing as the perfect setlist. It should be constantly evolving.

This is particularly rough on fans that see multiple shows on a tour. Phish, Bruce Springsteen, Pearl Jam, Furthur and Dave Matthews Band go to great lengths to make each show completely special and unique for fans. Other acts should take note.

9. Solo

This will have some dissenters. But if you aren't Neil Peart, Ginger Baker, Eric Clapton or a musician on that level of genius, nobody wants to hear you solo. Many an Aerosmith concert has come screeching to a halt when Joey Kramer takes a drum solo. John Entwistle is basically the only man ever born who could make a bass solo entertaining, and he is gone; this window is closed, rockers. The unaccompanied guitar solo should have died with the 1970s with very, very few exceptions.

10. Squeeze every possible penny out of fans

We know the concert industry is a business, and with record sales sinking to new lows every year, it's just about the only place where artists can make real money. That said: tickets shouldn't be $300 unless those seats are actually on the stage. Meet-and-greets should be nice perks for your most devoted fans, not ways to squeeze more money out of people – some acts actually charge upwards of $1,000 for a quick handshake and a photo. We know scalpers get a lot for tickets, but the way to stop that is by using paperless tickets, not by matching their insanely high prices yourself, artists.

This isn't just an idealistic position: soaking your fans is also bad business. Because touring is more important than ever, you're going to need a loyal fanbase that doesn't resent you for making their kids skip college so they could see you in Newark. Wise up, rockers!

Poll Results

OptionVotes
10. Squeeze every possible penny out of fans 15
1. Show up ridiculously late 14
7. Play perverse arrangements of your songs 2
8. Never vary the setlist 2
3. Play too much from the new album 1
4. Only perform the hits 1
5. Play anything resembling a medley 1
2. Exclude key band members 1
9. Solo 1
6. Ignore the music of your beloved former band 1


christmas candy bar (al leong), Thursday, 6 June 2013 00:23 (ten years ago) link

so... whoever wrote this kind of hates musicians and really wants to manipulate dolls that play music

they are either militarists (ugh) or kangaroos (?) (DJP), Thursday, 6 June 2013 00:32 (ten years ago) link

10 is the only really inexcusable one.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Thursday, 6 June 2013 00:58 (ten years ago) link

John Entwistle is basically the only man ever born who could make a bass solo entertainingJohn Entwistle is basically the only man ever born who could make a bass solo entertainingJohn Entwistle is basically the only man ever born who could make a bass solo entertainingJohn Entwistle is basically the only man ever born who could make a bass solo entertaining

hashtag sizzler (Phil D.), Thursday, 6 June 2013 01:10 (ten years ago) link

Never vary the setlist. Very annoying

i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Thursday, 6 June 2013 01:16 (ten years ago) link

10 is v excusable unless rock stars are literally putting people in a mangle or holding them upside down and shaking them

sleepish resistance (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 6 June 2013 01:18 (ten years ago) link

medleys and perverse arrangements are often pretty inexcusable but like most of this list it seems like the usual bogus whining we've seen before where people seem to think musicians shd describe in lengthy detail on the posters what their show will be like so nobody attends under false pretenses

sleepish resistance (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 6 June 2013 01:20 (ten years ago) link

"Eric Clapton or a musician on that level of genius"

leno dunham (get bent), Thursday, 6 June 2013 01:20 (ten years ago) link

...Don Felder?

bentelec, Thursday, 6 June 2013 01:25 (ten years ago) link

Old person blues.

Popture, Thursday, 6 June 2013 01:31 (ten years ago) link

Phish, Bruce Springsteen, Pearl Jam, Furthur and Dave Matthews Band go to great lengths to make each show completely special and unique for fans. Other acts should take note.

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 6 June 2013 02:21 (ten years ago) link

taking so many drugs there are no ore drugs

waterface, Thursday, 6 June 2013 02:36 (ten years ago) link

f you don't believe us, put on Bob Dylan at Budokan, track five, and don't say we didn't warn you.

*puts on Bob Dylan at Budokan, track five*

waterface, Thursday, 6 June 2013 02:38 (ten years ago) link

yeah really and enough with the hidden tracks on the CDs already jeez

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Thursday, 6 June 2013 02:42 (ten years ago) link

waterface, do you mean to tell me that you don't like reggae don't think twice it's alright? i think my copy of at budokan must be a different disc than the one everyone else is listening to because i think the crazy arrangements work on nearly every track. the annoying thing that dylan would do is be outrageously mean to interviewers, like that guy from TIME magazine. throughout don't look back, dylan seems to almost believe the hype -- to catastrophic consequences -- but in later years he seems to have been able to pull himself back from the cliff. at budokan subverts the legend of bob dylan while celebrating the extraordinary plasticity of the songs that came out of his classic period.

i guess i like perverse arrangements, or at least dylan's perverse arrangements of his own songs.

the strange and important sound of the synthesizer (Treeship), Thursday, 6 June 2013 02:56 (ten years ago) link

oh wait, i see that it was al leong that first criticized track 5 of at budokan. in either case, i love that album and that track in particular and not in a contrarian way.

the strange and important sound of the synthesizer (Treeship), Thursday, 6 June 2013 02:59 (ten years ago) link

did i miss the 'sexual assault' option?

Lamp, Thursday, 6 June 2013 03:00 (ten years ago) link

djp otm. rmde that not only are musicians expected to perform exactly to this person's specifications, but they're expected to do so in a slightly different way each night for the losers who want to travel and around and see the same show more than once!?

wk, Thursday, 6 June 2013 04:06 (ten years ago) link

- and

wk, Thursday, 6 June 2013 04:06 (ten years ago) link

masturbating with the guitar thing, specially in pairs.

man. pero man. man man man (wolves lacan), Thursday, 6 June 2013 04:10 (ten years ago) link

The thing where some guy in the front row is wearing a t shirt of the band her came to see, and the lead singer brings the whole show to a halt in the middle of the second encore and says "whoa whoa guys! Hold up, hold up..." and then her turns to the guy in the front row a and he's like "Total NOOB mistake, loser!"

how's life, Thursday, 6 June 2013 10:26 (ten years ago) link

Or when they come out on stage and try, and I mean, try to compare themselves to past greats. Like when Thom Yorke steps out on stage and straps on his Fender Jaguar and says "Hi! We're Radiohead, the modern-day Beatles," then dives into some indistinguishable, mopey riff.

how's life, Thursday, 6 June 2013 11:26 (ten years ago) link

So annoying!

how's life, Thursday, 6 June 2013 11:27 (ten years ago) link

Medleys are the obvious answer, but I've never actually seen anyone play one live so I can't really vote for them.

Bees Against Racism (Tom D.), Thursday, 6 June 2013 11:29 (ten years ago) link

Corporate sponsorship: I've never felt so annoyed as when I went to go see Motley Crue slam out a set of gutter-glam classics at Nissan Pavilion. Anyway, they're playing Dr. Feelgoo - one of their best tracks, right? - and Vince Neil gets to the best line "he's the only one they FEEEL-GOOOOOOOOOOOD" and then on the CD, Vince leans over to Mick and yells "GUITAR!" and Mick Mars lays out just this BLISTERING solo with all the whammy bar and everything. But at this particular concert, Vince is like "NUTRIGRAIN FRUIT BAR! YOW! LOOK OUT!"

how's life, Thursday, 6 June 2013 12:30 (ten years ago) link

A-nnoy-ing

how's life, Thursday, 6 June 2013 12:31 (ten years ago) link

I'd 1, 2 and 10 are actually pretty bad things to do. Everything else, yeah, the author is an entitled little shit.

emil.y, Thursday, 6 June 2013 12:57 (ten years ago) link

starting shows significantly late is awful, one of the worst things about going to shows

Euler, Thursday, 6 June 2013 13:06 (ten years ago) link

I agree that 1 is terrible (hi dere Lauryn Hill) but still stand by my original post.

they are either militarists (ugh) or kangaroos (?) (DJP), Thursday, 6 June 2013 15:16 (ten years ago) link

For a drummer to throw a broken drumstick into the crowd, only to recklessly injure a teenaged girl? So annoying! Even more when the rock star is Tony Bennett and his drummer is playing with brushes!

how's life, Thursday, 6 June 2013 15:21 (ten years ago) link

also anyone who doesn't understand/appreciate Prince's medleys should be killed

they are either militarists (ugh) or kangaroos (?) (DJP), Thursday, 6 June 2013 15:22 (ten years ago) link

http://www.drumtek.com.au/html/AUDW2008/images/ClaytonCameronLge.jpg

CLOSE YOUR EYES

how's life, Thursday, 6 June 2013 15:23 (ten years ago) link

Phish, Bruce Springsteen, Pearl Jam, Furthur and Dave Matthews Band go to great lengths to make each show completely special and unique for fans. Other acts should take note.

― global tetrahedron, Thursday, June 6, 2013 2:21 AM (12 hours ago)

hahahaha this is exactly the same quote i was going to pull out of this thing for mockery

O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 6 June 2013 15:23 (ten years ago) link

one of these acts is doing its own thing, one of these acts no one but the author gives a shit about

O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 6 June 2013 15:24 (ten years ago) link

Neil Peart, Ginger Baker, Eric Clapton or a musician on that level of genius

Pretty much all I need to know about where the author is (or isn't) coming from.

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Thursday, 6 June 2013 15:26 (ten years ago) link

one of the greatest concert moments of my life (besides of course the entirety of Prince's club performance at the Roxy in 1997) is Robert Smith playing a pretty standard angry guitar solo in "From The Edge Of The Deep Green Sea"; the playing itself was not virtuosic but where it appears in the song and the fury that comes through right before the lyrical denouement where the relationship disintegrates slays me every single time and is one of the reason I love it when that song appears in their playlists

they are either militarists (ugh) or kangaroos (?) (DJP), Thursday, 6 June 2013 15:29 (ten years ago) link

that sounds very not annoying.

how's life, Thursday, 6 June 2013 15:33 (ten years ago) link

are there really still bands that play medleys? I don't get out much.

i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Thursday, 6 June 2013 15:52 (ten years ago) link

Last night, Fleetwood Mac did

1. Start as much as 40 minutes after the announced start. It's nearly 8:45 here people.

2. Had no Christine McVie on stage. WTF?

3. Played at least one song I had never heard before from some digital ep. Better go get some beer.

4. Kept playing all these hits I have heard before such as Gypsy, Landslide, Tusk, Don't Stop, Go Your Own Way, Sara, Silver Springs, Second Hand News, The Chain, Rhiannon, Big Love, Gold Dust Woman, Stand Back. Yeah I get it already, better keep the radio fans happy.

5, 7, 9 - World Turning turned into some other weird song thing with a drum solo. Let me tell you, Mick Fleetwood is no Neil Peart.

6. Played nothing by Peter Green or Bob Welch or even Danny Kirwin.

8. This set list sounds suspiciously close to the Dallas show the previous evening.

10. I paid a lot of money for this, and my knee was real close to the back of some other guys head all night.

Come on guys

Zachary Taylor, Thursday, 6 June 2013 18:23 (ten years ago) link

LOL and to think, you used to be President

waterface, Thursday, 6 June 2013 18:27 (ten years ago) link

2. Had no Christine McVie on stage. WTF?

She hasn't been in the band since 1998.

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Thursday, 6 June 2013 18:31 (ten years ago) link

I hate it when they stand really far away from me while they play

i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Thursday, 6 June 2013 18:32 (ten years ago) link

Let me tell you, Mick Fleetwood is no Neil Peart.

lol

how's life, Thursday, 6 June 2013 18:36 (ten years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Tuesday, 11 June 2013 00:01 (ten years ago) link

I saw a David Spade segment on Kevin Nealon's Weekend Update circa 1993 that hit pretty much every note in that article.

kaleb h. (Everything You Like Sucks), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 19:37 (ten years ago) link

I voted for playing non awesome guitar solos

copter (waterface), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 19:41 (ten years ago) link

*hits whammy bar*

copter (waterface), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 19:41 (ten years ago) link

1 is only really annoying thing frankly, I like bands that have committed the various sins of 2-10.

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 11 June 2013 19:53 (ten years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 00:01 (ten years ago) link

people who fucking buy shit: voting on ilm

how's life, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 00:04 (ten years ago) link

^^^

but olives are valuable too (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 00:07 (ten years ago) link


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