RFI: Early Bee Gees

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So I am familiar with the album "1st."
However, what are other good, pre disco Bee Gees songs?

J Berry Brown, Saturday, 12 October 2002 07:05 (twenty-three years ago)

"I Started A Joke," "Massachusetts," "I just Gotta Get A Message to You," "Lonely Days"

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 12 October 2002 07:42 (twenty-three years ago)

Odessa is highly rated by some (well Saint Etienne) and is supposed to be some sort of lost pop-pysch masterpiece.

Unfortunately I'm not familiar with it, maybe some other ILxers can confirm or deny it's excellence.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Saturday, 12 October 2002 08:27 (twenty-three years ago)

'Sir Geoffrey Saved the World','Red Chair Fadeaway','Melody Fair'

Paul R, Saturday, 12 October 2002 11:04 (twenty-three years ago)

How can you mend a broken heart?
To love somebody
New York mining disaster 1941
Run to me
Words

all great songs

megan, Saturday, 12 October 2002 12:35 (twenty-three years ago)

"When I was small, and Christmas trees were tall, everything was great upon that day ..." or however it went: can't remember the rest but "First of May" is probably the most glutinously sentimental song of the era, what Barry Ryan's "Eloise" *and* Fairport Convention's "Who Knows Where The Time Goes?" would both have turned into if they'd been crap.

robin carmody (robin carmody), Saturday, 12 October 2002 19:21 (twenty-three years ago)

one month passes...
I heard To Love Somebody on the oldies radio station last night and thought it was the Small Faces! Amazing tune.

Aaron W, Wednesday, 20 November 2002 21:46 (twenty-three years ago)

i think odessa shouldn't have been a double album -- search the title track, a ridiculous orchestrated psychedelic disaster morality tale -- besides that there's lot's of filler, so i haven't made it all the way through the cd re-issue yet
at least the bee gees weren't getting on/ were splitting up at the time, were fucked up on stuff all over london, caught up in the late '60s psychedilic whirl of things -- i read a thing in mojo where barry seemed to want to disown it, which was all the recommendation i needed, but it's still pretty much a curiosity to me -- that bee gees sound has made it a difficult listen, no matter how kooky the songs

george gosset (gegoss), Thursday, 21 November 2002 11:06 (twenty-three years ago)

I find "First of May" a pretty chilling song. Why will they cry come first of May?

The way in which the music, literally, dies, leaving Barry Gibb humming, as though on his way to the scaffold of "Gotta Get A Message To You." And then he starts singing, again, alone but for his own echo:

"Don't ask me why," he addresses us, before turning back to the Other: "but time has passed us by."

"Someone else moved in from far away"

The charts of '68/69. Apocalyptic. Eloise, Bad Moon Rising, Man Of The World, Those Were The Days, All Along The Watchtower, Grapevine...it really seemed like everything was about to end.

The gluten might be disguised strychnine.

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 21 November 2002 11:20 (twenty-three years ago)

eleven months pass...
God I was so wrong about "First of May" (although I must state that my comments above related to that particular Bee Gees song, not to "Those Were The Days" as Marcello seemed to imply on CoM at the time).

"Odessa", though ... an astonishing record. I was misinformed about that era of the Bee Gees, definitely, and I can certainly see how the structure might have influenced something like "Tiger Bay". I wonder how the title track would have been regarded as they'd released it as a single - might have totally altered all instant perceptions of the Gibb brothers forever, although in what direction I honestly can't say. 1968/69, though ... the moment of "where next?" ("The British Opera" = the sweeping landscapes of Betjeman's "Beside The Seaside", ultimately dissolving into the snow scenes which I can only trace instantly to his 1977 "Queen's Realm" documentary but which were nevertheless filmed in the late 60s)

robin carmody (robin carmody), Saturday, 15 November 2003 03:35 (twenty-two years ago)

I can't *apologise* enough for what I posted upthread and elsewhere about early Bee Gees; I can't seem to recognise the person who wrote it. Now it all fits perfectly; the church at Westbourne Park, the snow on Hampstead Heath, Monica Edwards' "A Wind Is Blowing" ... and "Odessa".

robin carmody (robin carmody), Saturday, 15 November 2003 03:36 (twenty-two years ago)

"Odessa" is clearly a classic.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 15 November 2003 03:47 (twenty-two years ago)

God, Odessa is *such* a friggin' classic.

"I got 15 kids and a family on the skids / I'm gonna go for a country drive!"

Broheems (diamond), Saturday, 15 November 2003 06:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Oops, sorry Robin, I'll change that reference for the book ;-)

Inspired by what RC had to say about Odessa on RC's blog this week, I'm discussing it in depth on my blog this weekend (probably will be posting it up on Monday rather than Sunday; things are hectic...).

Marcello Carlin, Saturday, 15 November 2003 11:00 (twenty-two years ago)

ten months pass...
"World"

amateur!!st, Wednesday, 15 September 2004 20:57 (twenty-one years ago)

also: better than the beatles*

*weirder, in any event

amateur!!st, Wednesday, 15 September 2004 20:58 (twenty-one years ago)

i really like their australian stuff too. it's pretty silly, but "monday's rain" and "spicks and specks" and a bunch of other stuff is nearly as good as the first three UK records. they obviously really changed tack when they heard revolver.

amateur!!st, Wednesday, 15 September 2004 21:03 (twenty-one years ago)

*weirder, in any event

if you don't believe me, listen to "harry braff"

amateur!!st, Wednesday, 15 September 2004 21:05 (twenty-one years ago)

four years pass...

"I Started A Joke," "Massachusetts," "I just Gotta Get A Message to You," "Lonely Days"
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, October 12, 2002 5:42 PM (6 years ago) Bookmark

OTM^^^^^^

wilter, Sunday, 19 April 2009 11:21 (seventeen years ago)

I have only just discovered Odessa. I don't know how I missed it all these years. I see this thread, start listening to it and then's it's mentioned to-day on Counterpoint. Ain't that always the way?

Ned Trifle II, Monday, 20 April 2009 20:38 (seventeen years ago)

two months pass...

can't get over how much of this stuff is genius.

velko, Saturday, 11 July 2009 08:43 (sixteen years ago)

I think this is noted elsewhere, but anyone who's looking for more like early Bee Gees should track down the two Tin Tin albums, which sound as much like the Bee Gees as anyone could ever ask (and have Bee Gee involvement). They're very good too. Not on CD, so find a bootleg or download.

dlp9001, Saturday, 11 July 2009 16:38 (sixteen years ago)

did anyone mention this album on here?

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1055/640683407_fab5a0a221.jpg?v=0

scott seward, Saturday, 11 July 2009 17:31 (sixteen years ago)

cuz, you know, it's good.

scott seward, Saturday, 11 July 2009 17:31 (sixteen years ago)

i like tin tin too! those records are cool.

scott seward, Saturday, 11 July 2009 17:31 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah! And you what I noticed by thumbing through the search-engine? No Andy Gibb thread! That guy had some good singles, too. And good hair, as my wife reminds me.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 11 July 2009 17:33 (sixteen years ago)

I just Gotta Get A Message to You came on in the bottleshop last night. <3 that song!

wilter, Sunday, 12 July 2009 01:50 (sixteen years ago)

ok actual title is I've Gotta Get A Message To You

wilter, Sunday, 12 July 2009 01:51 (sixteen years ago)

Been highly into this VVVVVVVVV of late

http://i31.tinypic.com/28c0k0n.jpg

<3

wilter, Wednesday, 22 July 2009 08:03 (sixteen years ago)

I love side 2 of Odessa, the rest has that over-vibrato that's really irritating!"

Oh, and is "Marley Purt Drive" totally a 'country style' rendition of "Let it be"?

Mark G, Wednesday, 22 July 2009 08:59 (sixteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwoGxErKHpg

<3<3<3

wilter, Wednesday, 22 July 2009 09:30 (sixteen years ago)

whoah Robin's Reign!! I had neglected to hunt this down up til now... love the drum machine.

girlish in the worst sense of that term (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 23 July 2009 20:48 (sixteen years ago)

five months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbkbGF27JyY

wilter, Saturday, 26 December 2009 09:34 (sixteen years ago)

<3 they cleaned up pretty well

wilter, Saturday, 26 December 2009 09:37 (sixteen years ago)

scott seward, do you have a decent copy of that robin gibb LP on mp3? all i can find are shitty tinny-sounding MP3s. ok, i grant that the LP is probably a bit tinny-sounding.

what's up with the same drum machine pattern--even at the same tempo!--on every track on "robin's reign"?

figuratively, but in a very real way (amateurist), Saturday, 26 December 2009 12:45 (sixteen years ago)

also, the grasp of american geography in "massachusetts" is LOL.

figuratively, but in a very real way (amateurist), Saturday, 26 December 2009 12:46 (sixteen years ago)

<3

wilter, Saturday, 26 December 2009 12:50 (sixteen years ago)

also, the grasp of american geography in "massachusetts" is LOL.

Why, b/c he says he tried to hitch a ride to San Francisco? I gues it may be hard to do, but it's not exactly like he's looking for the basement of the Alamo...

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 26 December 2009 15:15 (sixteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bj9Ns_mAyh8

dlp9001, Saturday, 26 December 2009 19:30 (sixteen years ago)

three years pass...

The way in which the music, literally, dies, leaving Barry Gibb humming, as though on his way to the scaffold of "Gotta Get A Message To You." And then he starts singing, again, alone but for his own echo:

At the end of "Message" it sounds like Robyn was too choked up to continue for the very last round after the modulation... Barry notices and sings it for him so that they could nail it within 1 take, and Robyn quietly says "thank you" as the song fades out. Am I hearing this right?

billstevejim, Thursday, 23 May 2013 18:31 (thirteen years ago)

I mean Robin. lul

billstevejim, Thursday, 23 May 2013 18:33 (thirteen years ago)

haha yeah there is something squirrelly going on in the fade but I'm not sure what the spoken asides say. someone (Robin?) tries to hit the high harmony on the next to last "hold on" and misses it

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 23 May 2013 18:54 (thirteen years ago)

"Saved By The Bell" was apparently the first major pop hit to feature a drum machine, way back in 1969

and in his absence, she (Lee626), Friday, 24 May 2013 14:43 (thirteen years ago)


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