ILM Ballot Polls for 2014 and beyond -- order, timing, "I would have voted if I'd known about it," etc

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Happy New Year, list-makers.

A. Pavement - Johnny Fever (finished)
B. Manic Street Preachers - Jamie_ATP (finished)
C. Blur - Nasty, Brutish & Short (finished)
1. Pet Shop Boys - Billy Dods (finished)
2. Beatles - Mark G (finished)
3. Prince - Jamie_ATP (finished)
4. U2 - Ismael Klata (finished)
5. Beach Boys - iatee (finished)
6. Led Zeppelin - WmC (finished)
7. Timbaland - some dude (finished)
8. Guided By Voices - Johnny Fever (finished)
9. Stevie Wonder - Eric H. (finished)
10. “Producers” - Shakey Mo Collier (finished)
11. Pulp - Finefinemusic (finished)
12. James Brown - strongo/Shakey Mo Collier (finished)
13. Jacksons - Jamie_ATP (finished)
14. David Bowie - WmC (finished)
15. Paul Simon - Lamp (finished)
16. Rolling Stones - rogermexico (finished)
17. The Kinks - C. Grisso/McCain (finished)
18. Depeche Mode - crüt (finished)
19. Beastie Boys - Johnny Fever (finished)
20. ABBA - donna rouge (finished)
20B. Bee Gees - Shakey Mo Collier (finished)
21. Neil Young - clemenza (finished)
22. Fleetwood Mac - Clarke B. (finished)
23. The Cure - nate woolls (finished)
24. Kate Bush - Ismael Klata (finished)
25. The Who - Tarfumes the Escape Goat (finished)
26. Joni Mitchell - Mordy (finished)
27. The Neptunes - V79/some dude (finished)
28. Saint Etienne - Billy Dods (finished)
29. Hüsker Dü - Pleasant Plains (finished)
30. Bruce Springsteen - Jamie_ATP (finished)
31. Madonna - Johnny Fever (finished)
32. Miles Davis - WmC (finished)
33. The Fall - Mark G (finished)
34. PJ Harvey - Nasty, Brutish & Short (finished)
35. Cocteau Twins - Le Bateau Ivre/LeRooLeRoo (finished)
36. Sonic Youth - ArchCarrier (finished)
37. New Order - Bee OK (finished)
37B. The Doors - Ismael Klata (finished)
38. The Clash - Gukbe (finished)
39. Motown Singles - a hoy hoy (finished)
40. Jay-Z - some dude (finished)
41. Elton John - Johnny Fever (finished)
42. Stax - seandalai (finished)
43. Disco - Tuomas (finished)
44. R. Kelly - Spottie_Ottie_Dope (finished)
45. Tom Waits - chap (finished)
45B. Velvet Underground and Solo Careers (finished)
46. The “Classic Rock” Canon - some dude
47. Elvis Costello - kornrulez (finished)
48. Roxy Music/Bryan Ferry - charlie h
49. Pink Floyd - Elvis Telecom
50. Steely Dan - Bee OK
51. Bob Dylan - tipsy mothra
52. Sleater-Kinney + offshoots - C.Grisso/McCain
53. Outkast - The Reverend
54. Autechre - Leee
55. Brian Eno - WmC
56. Chic Organization - Donna Rouge
57. Spaceman 3 (& descendants) - Elvis Telecom
58. Radiohead - nate woolls
59. Yo La Tengo/Dump - clemenza
60. P-Funk - Shakey Mo Collier
61. Stooges/Iggy Pop - flopson
62. The Boo Radleys - Bee OK
63. XTC - Shakey Mo Collier
64. Italo - daavid
65. Emo/Screamo/Mallcore/(post)Hardcore - Mordy
66. Creedence Clearwater Revival - crüt
67. “Epics” (non-classical division) - Leee
68. Hard Rock/Hair Metal - how’s life
69. Extreme Metal - Viceroy
70. Stephin Merritt - Gukbe
71. Pixies - Johnny Fever
72. Metallica - Pleasant Plains
73. Spoon - Bee OK
74. Nirvana - Gavin, Leeds
75. Fairport Convention et al (R Thompson, S Denny) - Billy Dods
76. Queen - charlie h
77. Dinosaur Jr. - Z S
78. Tom Petty - rogermexico
79. Ramones - tipsy mothra
80. Jimi Hendrix - WmC
81. Sightings - Raymond Cummings
82. John Coltrane - Tarfumes the Escape Goat
83. Stereolab - Moka
84. Bauhaus/Tones on Tail-Love and Rockets/Peter Murphy - Bee OK
85. Genesis + solo - NickB
86. The Smiths - nate woolls
87. Pearl Jam - VegemiteGrrl
88. The Burt Bacharach songbook - WilliamC
89. Dead C - Raymond Cummings
90. Royal Trux + side projects - Drugs A. Money
91. John Fahey - Naive Teen Idol?
92. Rush - Matt #2
93. Oasis - darraghmac
94. George Michael - Ismael Klata
95. Talking Heads - Bee OK
96. Gamble & Huff/Philly International Records - jetfan
97. Van Halen - Johnny Fever
98. Billy Joel - Doctor Casino
99. Low - aldo
100. Nine Inch Nails - chap
101. REM - rogermexico.
102. Bjork - Eric H.
103. Wu-Tang Clan - ― Spottie
104. Shoegaze/Dream Pop/Post-rock (Albums and EPs)
105. Covers - kornrulez6969
106. New Pornographers/AC Newman - staggerlee

oldbowie (WilliamC), Wednesday, 1 January 2014 14:39 (four years ago) Permalink

classic rock nomination/discussion thread coming very soon

ol' Wrink P's thinkpiece (some dude), Wednesday, 1 January 2014 14:45 (four years ago) Permalink

x-post

Dag.

_Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 1 January 2014 14:56 (four years ago) Permalink

I don't take part in many of these, but will consider the classic rock thing, it sounds like a laugh. Someone give me a nudge when these are up, too:

64. Italo - daavid
74. Nirvana - Gavin, Leeds
83. Stereolab - Moka
99. Low - aldo
104. Shoegaze/Dream Pop/Post-rock (Albums and EPs)
105. Covers - kornrulez6969

emil.y, Wednesday, 1 January 2014 15:35 (four years ago) Permalink

btw, we did 20 polls on the list in the course of 2013. so if that pace continues, we should get up to around the Emo/Scream poll by the end of 2014. not as many polls i'm as interested in participating in this year as there were last year, but excited for Steely Dan and Outkast.

ol' Wrink P's thinkpiece (some dude), Thursday, 2 January 2014 12:34 (four years ago) Permalink

which means we'd also get to the New Pornographers poll around late 2016 or early 2017 hehe

ol' Wrink P's thinkpiece (some dude), Thursday, 2 January 2014 12:36 (four years ago) Permalink

Anyone know when the Roxy poll starts?

Iago Galdston, Thursday, 2 January 2014 13:27 (four years ago) Permalink

presumably once voting for the "2013 albums and tracks poll" ends. but i'll wait for the official prod.

charlie h, Thursday, 2 January 2014 15:00 (four years ago) Permalink

or after classic rock, i dunno.

charlie h, Thursday, 2 January 2014 15:01 (four years ago) Permalink

Oh dang, I traded the official prod for some blue meth over the holidays.

oldbowie (WilliamC), Thursday, 2 January 2014 16:36 (four years ago) Permalink

I think we should include ETAs of everything in the queue, just to twist the knife a little more.

Matt Groening is MY Cousin (Leee), Thursday, 2 January 2014 17:22 (four years ago) Permalink

If anyone dies under suspicious circumstances, and the person whose poll it is is implicated in said suspicious circumstances, I'm assuming they don't get to jump ahead in the line.

clemenza, Thursday, 2 January 2014 18:55 (four years ago) Permalink

I think if Bjork killed Stephin Merritt, starting her poll immediately would be the least we could do.

oldbowie (WilliamC), Thursday, 2 January 2014 18:58 (four years ago) Permalink

Agreed.

Alfre, Lord Woodard (Eric H.), Thursday, 2 January 2014 19:14 (four years ago) Permalink

But it's not up to you.

Alfre, Lord Woodard (Eric H.), Thursday, 2 January 2014 19:14 (four years ago) Permalink

What if Extreme Metal killed Hair Metal?

Matt Groening is MY Cousin (Leee), Thursday, 2 January 2014 19:37 (four years ago) Permalink

fight to the death against the winner of 'Producers'

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 2 January 2014 19:51 (four years ago) Permalink

For reference: Thread for coordinating the order and timing of ILM ballot polls

There is also this: ILM Ballot Polls: where to find the results threads

Again Thanks WilliamC for taking back over this thread, as I said before I was just keeping the seat warm until your return.

Bee OK, Friday, 3 January 2014 02:10 (four years ago) Permalink

watching thomas crown affair and wondering.. has there been a movie score poll?

Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ (brimstead), Friday, 3 January 2014 03:09 (four years ago) Permalink

is this where I plead for you maniacs to separate the Eno and Roxy/Ferry polls?

Eno >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Roxy, give Ferry and Jobson and whoever their second rate solo material if you must but I will vote all Eno in protest if that's how it's gonna be.

sleeve, Friday, 3 January 2014 03:40 (four years ago) Permalink

eno poll should be a poll of inanimate objects

Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ (brimstead), Friday, 3 January 2014 03:42 (four years ago) Permalink

feelin u sleeve. i dunno that eno >>>>>>> roxy but def a different thing. just adds noise to both "roxy" and "eno" polls and makes results less satisfying.

cf gabriel/(and a little collins) >>>>>> genesis

resulting post (rogermexico.), Friday, 3 January 2014 06:46 (four years ago) Permalink

The Eno / Ferry thing was settled a long time ago, was it not? Separate polls.

kornrulez6969, Friday, 3 January 2014 16:15 (four years ago) Permalink

Put me down for They Might Be Giants. (would enough people care about a TMBG poll?)

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 15 January 2014 20:37 (four years ago) Permalink

In at 107

channel 9's meaty urologist (WilliamC), Thursday, 16 January 2014 16:45 (four years ago) Permalink

Where is the Classic Rock Canon poll? Having missed out on a lot of the history of this, I understand why we want to coordinate the timing so's not to have 6 million ballot polls flooding the board at once, but don't it seem like we could have one start at least every week?

Ynysddu is the best policy (but tread Caerphilly) (staggerlee), Thursday, 16 January 2014 17:40 (four years ago) Permalink

There's a hiatus while the big EOY poll is happening...normal service will return at the start February I guess.

Two days left to vote in the ILM EOY Poll! (seandalai), Thursday, 16 January 2014 17:47 (four years ago) Permalink

There's a break from these while the end-of-year polls run their course. The list should pick back up in February.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 16 January 2014 17:48 (four years ago) Permalink

There's a pause during the big end-of-year polls, regular polls will begin again by February.

Euler, Thursday, 16 January 2014 17:52 (four years ago) Permalink

what they said, something something February

channel 9's meaty urologist (WilliamC), Thursday, 16 January 2014 18:24 (four years ago) Permalink

Any reason we can't do one a week starting February?

Ynysddu is the best policy (but tread Caerphilly) (staggerlee), Thursday, 16 January 2014 18:49 (four years ago) Permalink

Most poll-runners have been leaving the voting open for 10-14 days to flog as many ballots as possible out of ILM. Some overlap is cool -- one poll open for voting while another one is rolling out its results -- but any efforts to put these polls on a timetable have been met with an unspoken "yes that's fine for everyone else but I'm going to run my poll this way." I'm not going to play the heavy -- that's the quickest way for these to grind to a screeching stop, imo.

channel 9's meaty urologist (WilliamC), Thursday, 16 January 2014 19:24 (four years ago) Permalink

Bah.

Ynysddu is the best policy (but tread Caerphilly) (staggerlee), Thursday, 16 January 2014 20:13 (four years ago) Permalink

plus personally if there's too many polls just wham wham wham one after another I kinda get exhausted by the whole thing, even if it's bands I like

gotta let them breeeeeeeeeeeathe maaaaaan

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 16 January 2014 20:58 (four years ago) Permalink

Veg, are you volunteering for George Michael/WHAM! poll?

Neil Nosepicker (Leee), Thursday, 16 January 2014 21:00 (four years ago) Permalink

nope

i'm terrified enough that I volunteered for Pearl Jam in like, 2015...ain't no way I'm volunteering for anything else EVER until that's over & it hasn't killed me

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 16 January 2014 21:02 (four years ago) Permalink

It's really not too hard if you just throw all the ballots in your recycle bin and make up the results you want to see.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 16 January 2014 21:04 (four years ago) Permalink

(Just kidding about that, btw. All my polls is legit.)

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 16 January 2014 21:04 (four years ago) Permalink

classic rock nomination/discussion thread coming very soon

― ol' Wrink P's thinkpiece (some dude), Wednesday, January 1, 2014 9:45 AM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

still! it's gonna be a slow burner because it seems like the big genre-spanning polls seem to take longer for people to put together ballots for (as opposed to just looking at one band's discography and quickly being able to ID favorites). so i would say, don't mind my slow progress and just proceed with any single artist polls in the queue, and we can worry about whether results rollouts overlap or anything later if it looks likely.

Algerian Horsebeater (some dude), Thursday, 16 January 2014 21:08 (four years ago) Permalink

as far as I'm concerned, you could start the discussion thread at any time & it'll be it's own board

i.e. I listened to the .38 Special greatest hits album today

Euler, Thursday, 16 January 2014 22:00 (four years ago) Permalink

lol I did the same a couple weeks ago.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 16 January 2014 22:05 (four years ago) Permalink

we are twentieth century foxes

Euler, Thursday, 16 January 2014 22:08 (four years ago) Permalink

i don't wanna start the thread until i've finished the 'starting list' of a few hundred songs that we can then add to (or subtract from if there's any debatable inclusions).

Algerian Horsebeater (some dude), Thursday, 16 January 2014 23:19 (four years ago) Permalink

I'm v excited for it

oooh that reminds me I need to wash the Trans Am....

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 17 January 2014 01:29 (four years ago) Permalink

lol you didn't win that from Diamond Joe Biden in a high-stakes poker game, did you?

Neil Nosepicker (Leee), Friday, 17 January 2014 01:42 (four years ago) Permalink

Veg, are you volunteering for George Michael/WHAM! poll?

Ismael Klata traded out his front-man/front-women idea and change it to this:
94. George Michael - Ismael Klata

Bee OK, Friday, 17 January 2014 02:21 (four years ago) Permalink

Oh, I thought it was the new WHAM! Lineup

Mark G, Friday, 17 January 2014 08:00 (four years ago) Permalink

Make it so

Pre-Madonna (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 17 January 2014 08:12 (four years ago) Permalink

It's the role I feel I can do

Ismael Klata, Friday, 17 January 2014 08:18 (four years ago) Permalink

i would be up for doing a No Wave poll, or is that too esoteric?

^ enlightening post (sarahell), Monday, 20 January 2014 21:49 (four years ago) Permalink

who's this mordy person -- some games poster?

mookieproof, Saturday, 30 June 2018 02:42 (three months ago) Permalink

Lol

Οὖτις, Saturday, 30 June 2018 02:43 (three months ago) Permalink

2014 was a dope year -

angel olsen - burn your fire for no witness
aphex twin - syro
fka twigs - LP1
Grouper - Ruins
St. Vincent - S/T

etc

music saved my life (Ross), Saturday, 30 June 2018 02:47 (three months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

would people be interested in a Tori Amos poll sometime soon-ish?

ufo, Saturday, 14 July 2018 10:20 (three months ago) Permalink

Oh yes. I'm very ready to vote for "Promise" and "Cloud Riders."

geoffreyess, Saturday, 14 July 2018 21:56 (three months ago) Permalink

Pre-1950s is too much music. Still suggest doing it decade by decade, though perhaps pre-1920 would be a more acceptable start than pre-1900?

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 14 July 2018 22:12 (three months ago) Permalink

how about an american songbook poll

Mordy, Saturday, 14 July 2018 22:19 (three months ago) Permalink

Personally not interested in that, sorry

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 14 July 2018 22:31 (three months ago) Permalink

ILM Artist Poll #90: 19 Elvis Fans Can Be Polled: The ILM Elvis Presley poll roll out thread

Bee OK, Saturday, 28 July 2018 19:50 (two months ago) Permalink

who's next? I should be able to start the Tori Amos one in ~ 3 weeks, so there's time for someone else to run one

ufo, Monday, 6 August 2018 09:35 (two months ago) Permalink

if the current OPO thread has people excited, I could get the TMBG poll running.

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Monday, 6 August 2018 09:52 (two months ago) Permalink

oh that would be great! would really love to dig into them again

ufo, Monday, 6 August 2018 10:06 (two months ago) Permalink

actually it might take me three weeks just to get the list of eligible songs together

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Monday, 6 August 2018 11:48 (two months ago) Permalink

Somebody run a poll pleas

kornrulez6969, Monday, 6 August 2018 12:14 (two months ago) Permalink

I can send the spreadsheet I used to do the SP poll if you want (based on the one someone linked here a while ago) that automatically sums the results of submitted ballots instead of requiring you to manually input ballots against a master list of songs? you just need to check for spelling errors etc to prevent duplicates

ufo, Monday, 6 August 2018 14:04 (two months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

i was about to start a new poll tonight, not saying which one, but decided against it and deleted the thread at the last moment. i decided to do The Jesus and Mary Chain next instead but i feel that one can't happen in the summer. i will do that one in the winter of this year, maybe after my one year anniversary of Joy Division, who knows. all my other polls are up for grabs if anyone wants to take them over.

we have only done four artist polls this year?!? anyone in the mood to start a artist poll? ILM Artist Poll #91 is on deck...

Bee OK, Thursday, 23 August 2018 01:35 (two months ago) Permalink

if no one else is up for one I'm ready to start a Tori Amos poll in a few days

ufo, Thursday, 23 August 2018 01:38 (two months ago) Permalink

um HELL YEAH

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 August 2018 01:42 (two months ago) Permalink

I’m a day or two away from being ready on TMBG but happy to step back

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Thursday, 23 August 2018 01:58 (two months ago) Permalink

now is the best time I'll have to run a poll for a while, so I'll start it in a few days then. looking forward to TMBG too

ufo, Thursday, 23 August 2018 12:39 (two months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

American POLL Posse - ILM Artist Poll #91 - TORI AMOS - Results

Bee OK, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 23:53 (one month ago) Permalink

Who's up?

kornrulez6969, Friday, 14 September 2018 02:34 (one month ago) Permalink

It'd be wrong to do Low just now based on the new record just being out (and the reception it's receiving). I think it needs to be the early months of next year to have let it settle in.

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Friday, 14 September 2018 07:29 (one month ago) Permalink

My thinking at the time of squelching the 2010-14 poll was that a "history of ILM" poll would be more fun, and would've covered 2001-16 at the time. But shit, we're so close to 2020 now, we may as well wait and do the whole shebang.

― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 9 June 2018 05:09 (three months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

IMO we should do the 2000s and 2010s separately. I think a 2000s poll would be quite a cool thing to do

imago, Friday, 14 September 2018 07:30 (one month ago) Permalink

cosign a 2000s poll

nxd, Friday, 14 September 2018 12:16 (one month ago) Permalink

2000s would be cool. Let me preemptively say The Glands too low!!

kornrulez6969, Friday, 14 September 2018 14:00 (one month ago) Permalink

Doing 2000-2019 would condemn the earlier stuff owing to recency bias. A good look back from at least nine years' remove would be much more interesting. I know we already did 2005-2009 but a) that's only half the decade and b) it is weird how time shifts opinion

imago, Friday, 14 September 2018 14:12 (one month ago) Permalink

00s would be pretty interesting to do but that also means finally getting through the few hundred 00s albums in my backlog lol. definitely shouldn't be combined with the eventual 10s poll.

it's funny to look at the results of the previous 00-04 poll here, obviously the board was basically a completely different place then but there's mention of The Strokes and OutKast not even being nominated, Voodoo placing next to Get Ready, lots of bizarre little things like that

ILM Top 100 2000-2004: ALBUMS

ufo, Friday, 14 September 2018 14:21 (one month ago) Permalink

oh they did do the first half! second half was erykah badu, portishead and the knife in i think that order but lots of weird ones again there

imago, Friday, 14 September 2018 14:27 (one month ago) Permalink

first half top ten stuffed with radiohead, the streets and basement jaxx. safe to say it needs another look

imago, Friday, 14 September 2018 14:31 (one month ago) Permalink

ILM Top 100 2005-2009: ALBUMS

the second half was still before my time but it feels like the board has changed much less since then. it's a great list yeah

those Basement Jaxx albums are still fantastic and seem a little overlooked these days imo!

ufo, Friday, 14 September 2018 14:34 (one month ago) Permalink

a lot of critically-loved stuff from those years has aged quite badly imo - anyway, someone should do it

imago, Friday, 14 September 2018 15:01 (one month ago) Permalink

Trying to convince myself to undertake such a thing, but I'm not there yet.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 14 September 2018 15:02 (one month ago) Permalink

With imago on this one

Honestly 2000s seems so daunting

Find it easier to remember 2010-2014 most for some reason, possibly the insane amount of good music

Ross, Friday, 14 September 2018 15:26 (one month ago) Permalink

a lot of critically-loved stuff from those years has aged quite badly imo

Yeah, I'd have to relisten to a lot of stuff. There's very little of what I liked during 00-09 that I feel like I can take for granted as being good now.

jmm, Friday, 14 September 2018 15:29 (one month ago) Permalink

Yeah I'm down for a 2000s poll, even if calling it daunting is an understatement. We'd need a lot of time to go and relisten to all those albums.

Would we do songs? Albums? Both? With songs I could probably make a ballot in 2 minutes, albums not so much lol

josh az (2011nostalgia), Friday, 14 September 2018 15:44 (one month ago) Permalink

I mean, it could be fun to dive back in, because I haven't listened to Miss Kittin or Playgroup in yeeeears, but then I'll be mad when people vote up Modest Mouse and Arcade Fire and I have to smash my phone.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 14 September 2018 15:51 (one month ago) Permalink

nominations period might need to be a few months lol

ufo, Friday, 14 September 2018 15:52 (one month ago) Permalink

arcade fire will certainly suffer the wither of hindsight

imago, Friday, 14 September 2018 15:52 (one month ago) Permalink

my real hope is that lcd soundsystem does too

imago, Friday, 14 September 2018 15:52 (one month ago) Permalink

Badu still better be #1 tho.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Friday, 14 September 2018 15:59 (one month ago) Permalink

tbh I believe #1 still would be either Badu or Portishead, even now.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 14 September 2018 16:02 (one month ago) Permalink

seems redundant to poll 10s albums once more just to trace changes in taste over 8 years... more fun to do singles

niels, Friday, 14 September 2018 16:30 (one month ago) Permalink

if we were going to do albums we may as well do singles too

ufo, Friday, 14 September 2018 16:34 (one month ago) Permalink

I can kick They Might Be Giants off on Monday.

▫◌▫ (sic), Friday, 14 September 2018 18:21 (one month ago) Permalink

Dooooo eeeeeeeeit!!!!!

Johnny Fever, Friday, 14 September 2018 18:25 (one month ago) Permalink

Yes! They Might Be Giants poll

kornrulez6969, Saturday, 15 September 2018 21:58 (one month ago) Permalink

2000s poll is a great idea.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 15 September 2018 22:03 (one month ago) Permalink

one month passes...

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