Last Train to Paris vs. Armor On

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Inspired by a return to LTTP, which has gotten better since I listened last. I used to think that the first seven tracks made a near-perfect mini-album, but as soon as C Brown showed up, I would lose interest. Nothing to do with #Breezy, or my dislike of his continued career; it was my response to the music. A moot point, anyway, because this last time, the back half, while looser, has held up way better. "Shades", for instance, has become one of my favorites now.

I pitted it against Armor On because 1) its my favorite of the post-LTTP albums (& I will vote for it here), 2) it's one of my favorite albums of the decade, and 3) my impression that this was post-Dirty Money release that is most unanimously beloved by ILX.

I feel like LTTP might win. The songs are stronger and fuller, it is more expansive, and as I said before, it stands up remarkably well as a whole for all its spiralling ambition. Yet Armor On is still almost perfect in the precision of its flow, in its willingness to think outside the box, and the way it treats track sequencing , as a higher form of songwriting.

Seeing how this goes, I might pit LTTP against other albums in the near future, including New Amerykah pt 1 and Kaputt.

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Last Train to Paris, Diddy-Dirty Money 31
Armor On, Dawn Richard 10


lolipsism (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 3 April 2014 19:58 (ten years ago) link

trick question, the answer is goldenheart

katherine, Thursday, 3 April 2014 20:02 (ten years ago) link

last train no contest

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 3 April 2014 20:02 (ten years ago) link

Katherine OTM but failing that, Armour On.

Branwell Bell, Thursday, 3 April 2014 20:07 (ten years ago) link

Maybe Goldenheart should be the next album I re-visit...

lolipsism (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 3 April 2014 20:11 (ten years ago) link

Armor On but it's a really close call. LoveLove vs HateLove, tho. and GoldenHeart.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:11 (ten years ago) link

wtf kinda thread is this

le goon (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:16 (ten years ago) link

LoveLove vs HateLove > LTTP > Armor On > Whiteout >>>>>> that Kelenna thing > A Tell-Tale Heart >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Goldenheart

The Reverend, Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:20 (ten years ago) link

ranking all the diddy/dawn/kalenna stuff:

album of the decade:
1. lovelove vs hatelove

all-time masterpieces:
2. last train to paris
3. welcome to the dollhouse
4. armor on

uneven but still mindblowing in parts:
5. press play
6. whiteout
7. goldenheart

ok seriously this nexus has produced the greatest music of this century so far:
8. a tell-tale heart
9. chamber of diaries
10. danity kane

prolego, Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:37 (ten years ago) link

last train to paris (30 million alligator mouths) > any dawn richard solo album

le goon (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:50 (ten years ago) link

otm

johnny crunch, Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:58 (ten years ago) link

Seeing how this goes, I might pit LTTP against other albums in the near future, including Kaputt.

you know this is only going to end in tears

prolego, Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:59 (ten years ago) link

Haha yeah you're right

lolipsism (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 4 April 2014 03:54 (ten years ago) link

i need to return to both these albums

dyl, Friday, 4 April 2014 04:40 (ten years ago) link

Armour On is an album I love, whereas Goldenheart I merely admire.

all is fair in love and womp (monotony), Friday, 4 April 2014 05:27 (ten years ago) link

p much refuse to rank any of these masterpieces (LTTP/AO/G), though the goldenheart detractors and their short attention spans certainly hold the RONGEST opinions itt

lex pretend, Friday, 4 April 2014 06:34 (ten years ago) link

I don't understand this poll and its existence scares me and I am never going to click on this thread again

, Friday, 4 April 2014 06:35 (ten years ago) link

the other reason i can't decide is that i feel none of these albums could exist without the others

(i'm not really including whiteout or a tell-tale heart in this, the former is minor and the latter is honestly too low-quality for me to actually listen to regularly any more)

(chamber of diaries could've been a contender if it was halved, i guess - it's terrific as it is but not quite a perfectly executed vision. STILL WAITING ON U KALENNA)

lex pretend, Friday, 4 April 2014 06:40 (ten years ago) link

I understand this poll and its existence bores me and I am never going to click on this thread again

r|t|c, Friday, 4 April 2014 06:59 (ten years ago) link

Last Train To Paris, though I always find it difficult comparing albums of such different lengths. I also think that Armour On is as good as A Tell Tale Heart and Goldenheart.

jay., Friday, 4 April 2014 08:36 (ten years ago) link

I understand this poll but am abstaining tho' I thoroughly approve of everyone correcting Dawn's spelling itt

Jeff W, Friday, 4 April 2014 14:13 (ten years ago) link

LTTP never stops surprising me. At its best Armor On is a masterly example of sustained groove and mood. On that basis LTTP wins easily. Like AO a lot though.

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 April 2014 14:14 (ten years ago) link

I don't think it's weird that people single out Goldenheart as being odd (or better, or worse), that is a strange record, closer in mood production-wise to "Aerial" than LTtP

poopsites attract (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 4 April 2014 14:17 (ten years ago) link

LTTP is the urtext and all the other stuff is appendices imo, much as i love some of it

some dude, Friday, 4 April 2014 14:35 (ten years ago) link

dawn richard's solo stuff is pretty good but i mean, this is a joke

surfbort memes get played out, totally (k3vin k.), Friday, 4 April 2014 14:48 (ten years ago) link

What Jordan said

rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, 4 April 2014 15:25 (ten years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Thursday, 10 April 2014 00:01 (ten years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Friday, 11 April 2014 00:01 (ten years ago) link

bodied

getting strange ass all around the globe (Neanderthal), Friday, 11 April 2014 02:54 (ten years ago) link

duh

surfbort memes get played out, totally (k3vin k.), Friday, 11 April 2014 02:55 (ten years ago) link

10 crazy ppl out there tho

call all destroyer, Friday, 11 April 2014 03:20 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

the sevyn streeter album is a better extension of the LTTP aesthetic than any dawn solo album imo

le goon (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 3 June 2014 20:38 (nine years ago) link

really just hope the album gets released, it has seemed really self-defeating for labels to have all these new R&B acts getting breakthrough radio hits and then only issuing EPs with a vague promise of an album later down the road

I seriously do not understand anyone who loves LTTP but does not also love Armor On.

uppers epilepsy sh@kedown (The Reverend), Tuesday, 3 June 2014 23:24 (nine years ago) link


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