How would you describe your taste in music...

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...without mentioning artists or specific genres?

My answer could be something like this:

I usually neither like music which is too mainstream nor too experimental. I don't like too pure a style as I usually find that too predictable and get bored soon.

If I had to choose between beat and tune I'd always go for the tune.

I like music which is


  • challenging and does not necessarily sink in on the first listen

  • calm and understated

  • balancing between noise and melody

  • rhythmically hypnotic and tune-wise addictive

  • eclectic with fused styles and new takes on old genres

  • made by artists who reinvent themselves from time to time

  • full of new never heard sounds (not necessarily)

  • lyrically interesting though the lyrics cannot save a musically bad record but bad lyrics can destroy good sounding music


alex in mainhattan (alex63), Thursday, 17 October 2002 19:27 (twenty-three years ago)

I like what works.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 17 October 2002 19:39 (twenty-three years ago)

eclectic, esoteric even.

hstencil, Thursday, 17 October 2002 19:40 (twenty-three years ago)

i usually just tell people my musical taste sucks.

your null fame (yournullfame), Thursday, 17 October 2002 19:42 (twenty-three years ago)


usually "i dunno" followed by, "lot's of different stuff", "all kinds of stuff", "gosh, a bunch of crap nobody's ever heard of", or my personal favorite, "a bit of everything".

m.

msp, Thursday, 17 October 2002 19:48 (twenty-three years ago)

rock

jel -- (jel), Thursday, 17 October 2002 20:08 (twenty-three years ago)

Almost exactly what alex said, only I go for beat over tune. That, and I enjoy music with a sense of humor every so often.

Nate Patrin, Thursday, 17 October 2002 20:15 (twenty-three years ago)

"pop music"

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 17 October 2002 20:26 (twenty-three years ago)

very, very carefully

gygax!, Thursday, 17 October 2002 20:30 (twenty-three years ago)

I listen to nothing except rap and country.

Yancey (ystrickler), Thursday, 17 October 2002 20:31 (twenty-three years ago)

i ran into more trouble trying to tell people what my band sounded like so now i say that we are "music for young people"

oh yea, and i listen to pop/rock

ddd, Thursday, 17 October 2002 20:34 (twenty-three years ago)

Yancey, please try again. ;-)

And Nate is right, I forgot humor. There isn't enough humor in music. Or maybe I don't get it most of the time.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Thursday, 17 October 2002 20:44 (twenty-three years ago)

Not to be very impolite, Alex, but that's what nearly everyone will say about their own taste. It's merely an elaborate way of saying: "I like good music".

And surprisingly, I also like nice food, good books and films, and like watching quality television.

Siegbran (eofor), Thursday, 17 October 2002 20:46 (twenty-three years ago)

Maybe you are right Siegbran and I failed to answer my own question. But do you find your own answer better? It is difficult, I know. But it must be possible to say something specific about one's own taste without becoming too general.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Thursday, 17 October 2002 20:58 (twenty-three years ago)

I like good music, but terrible films. I most enjoy novel sounds. Just what Alex says, of course, only instead of tunes or rhythms, I like funny noises.

If I ask someone what they listen to, and they say "Anything I can dance to" I fall in love with them right then & there.

A.V. Alexandre (Keiko), Thursday, 17 October 2002 21:06 (twenty-three years ago)

Siegbran, I don't think his description is obviously synonymous with good music.

Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 17 October 2002 21:14 (twenty-three years ago)

I like *good* music if you don't agree with me "you are wrong!"

dsico (dsico), Thursday, 17 October 2002 21:19 (twenty-three years ago)

Indeed it isn't- in fact, you could write the complete opposite and still make it sound like "good music":

I like music that goes to extremes, meaning I can appreciate both extremley mainstream and extremley experimental music. I don't like people mixing styles too much because very few people can pull that off without coming across as unfocused.

If I had to choose between beat and tune I'd always go for the beat.

I like music which is


* easily accessible, because I like music that hits me with devastating impact upon first listen.

* exciting and anthemic

* either very noisy or very melodious (see my comment on liking both experimental and mainstream)

* sticking to one genre, carrying on a tradition

* made by artists who stay true to themselves and that which they represent

* full of familiar and well-loved sounds (not necessarily)


Only * rhythmically hypnotic and tune-wise addictive and * lyrically interesting though the lyrics cannot save a musically bad record but bad lyrics can destroy good sounding music sound a tad obvious.

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 17 October 2002 21:24 (twenty-three years ago)

Answer: playing people what music I like rather than describe it with words.

brg30 (brg30), Thursday, 17 October 2002 21:36 (twenty-three years ago)

To be honest Alex, some of the things you name are indeed specific like calm and understated, but most of the others could be attributed to nearly every artist by a fan. Anyway, I'll try to answer your question myself so I could well be as generic as anyone else:

I like:


  • "purist" music rather than fusions between styles
  • drawn out, repetitive, hypnotic music rather than short catchy songs
  • a life-affirming attitude rather than self-pity, angst or resentment
  • silliness more than mild irony

Siegbran (eofor), Thursday, 17 October 2002 21:39 (twenty-three years ago)

Hah... well OK then.

I'd like to think I don't have any hard and fast rules for this sort of thing - but of course, I do. The only problem I've got with answering this is not having enough of the 'vocab' that would let me say what I actually mean.

Kim (Kim), Thursday, 17 October 2002 21:42 (twenty-three years ago)

"Purist music" more likely than not means "fusions between styles which are not longer remembered to be fusions."

Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 17 October 2002 21:43 (twenty-three years ago)

Jay-Z and Fairport Convention, and nothing in between.

(this is an adaptation of something Stephin Merritt used to say about bubblegum and experimental music: it's actually an absurd exaggeration both in my case and his, but it sounds good, and it intrigues people, and I like that.)

robin carmody (robin carmody), Thursday, 17 October 2002 23:29 (twenty-three years ago)

I listen to music that YOU would consider way too mainstream, but most of the kids in my school have never heard of.

Basically just anything that makes me happy to be listening to is good. The specific genres range from old-skool punk to second-generation Brit Pop to singer-songwriter-y tunes. And the rare, but GOOD rap and country.

Danni, Friday, 18 October 2002 04:38 (twenty-three years ago)

I listen to music that YOU would consider way too mainstream

What can this strange chimera be?

Tom (Groke), Friday, 18 October 2002 07:59 (twenty-three years ago)

David Gray.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Friday, 18 October 2002 08:47 (twenty-three years ago)

"Singer-songwriter-y tunes" - you're right Jerry"

Tom (Groke), Friday, 18 October 2002 08:52 (twenty-three years ago)

I listen to pop music.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 18 October 2002 21:59 (twenty-three years ago)

For those who are interested: the kind of answers I was hoping for can be found in this topic at People Talk Too Loud

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Saturday, 19 October 2002 06:02 (twenty-three years ago)

DOOD aNDREW WK Da WILD KIND

Chupa-Cabras (vicc13), Saturday, 19 October 2002 06:07 (twenty-three years ago)

It needs to have a rocking guitar and a rocking beat and it needs to rock really hard.

James Blount (James Blount), Saturday, 19 October 2002 06:31 (twenty-three years ago)

What Your Music Taste says about you might (not) help.

N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 19 October 2002 17:50 (twenty-three years ago)

I love music.

Andrew L (Andrew L), Saturday, 19 October 2002 17:53 (twenty-three years ago)

Any kind of music?

N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 19 October 2002 17:58 (twenty-three years ago)

As long as it's groovy.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 19 October 2002 21:29 (twenty-three years ago)

People high on this dimension tend to enjoy Classical, Blues, Jazz, and Folk music. On the Reflective & Complex Dimension you fell in the 99 percentile. This score is very high.
99%

Based on your responses, you scored above average on the reflective and complex music preference dimension. Research in our laboratory indicates that people who are high on this dimension tend to have the following characteristics:

As a high scorer on the reflective and complex music dimension, you tend to be open to new experiences, creative, intellectual, and enjoy trying new things.

Yes

When it comes to politics, it's safe to say that you tend to lean toward the left and cast your ballot for the most qualified democratic candidate.

Maybe, but I haven't voted in a long time.

Wisdom, diversity, and fine arts are all important to you.

Yes

When it comes to lifestyle, it's more than likely that you're sophisticated, and relatively well off financially.

HAHAHAHAHAHA

As a fan of reflective and complex music, a glass of wine or mixed drink is more preferable than a beer at the end of the day.

This is where I realize that this test is complete shit- BEER FOREVER!

Aside from alcohol, chances are that you don't use drugs.

Believe it or not this is true.

After a hard day of work, if you're not listening to music or reading a book, you're probably enjoying a documentary film, independent movie, classic movie, or foreign film.

Quite right slick...

brg30 (brg30), Saturday, 19 October 2002 22:36 (twenty-three years ago)

Indie Adult Alternative was tossed around as a snarky genre name on some thread this summer- that probably sums up mine pretty well.

lyra (lyra), Sunday, 20 October 2002 00:08 (twenty-three years ago)

I took this survey and it told me four times that I was on drugs. I'm quite worried.

A.V. Alexandre (Keiko), Sunday, 20 October 2002 00:44 (twenty-three years ago)

I tried that survey, but some of the genres aren't genres at all!

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 20 October 2002 11:09 (twenty-three years ago)

That survey is poo. Mine was completely contradictory.

Kim (Kim), Sunday, 20 October 2002 14:11 (twenty-three years ago)

Its results are provided by science so it cannot be poo. Maybe YOU ARE CONTRADICTORY. Huh - did you think of that?

N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 20 October 2002 14:28 (twenty-three years ago)

YES! Wait, I mean... NO!

Kim (Kim), Sunday, 20 October 2002 14:39 (twenty-three years ago)

Its results are provided by science so it cannot be poo. Maybe YOU ARE CONTRADICTORY. Huh - did you think of that?

So does this mean that aside from Alcohol, I should start doing drugs??

brg30 (brg30), Sunday, 20 October 2002 19:07 (twenty-three years ago)

26 % enjoys reflective and complex music
54 % enjoys edgy and aggressive music
41 % enjoys fun and simple music
7 % enjoys energetic and upbeat music

jel -- (jel), Sunday, 20 October 2002 19:12 (twenty-three years ago)

I came out as only really liking fun and simple music. Which means I'm great to be around.

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 21 October 2002 12:15 (twenty-three years ago)

99%, 92%, 98%, 96%

or what Andrew L said

Jeff W (Jeff W), Monday, 21 October 2002 12:24 (twenty-three years ago)

as long as it makes sense and makes me laugh in some maybe musical way and sustains ten to twenty listens without palling, and i hear something new that i actually learn from

hypnotic, rhythmic, tunefully addictive music will by definition put you some way to sleep, and maybe the same for calm/noise balanced or life affirming stuff (cynically arranged easy listening crap)

challenging and does not necessarily sink in on the first listen is mandatory isn't it ? as for making you happy is that the first listen or the third or the twenty-third ?

fun and simple music sounds like really boring company, except if used like cool furniture, nice wallpaper, seductive fabrics

how many people will admit that the catchy, rhythmic and repetetive aspects of those musics may as well make them "the opiates of " whomever ? is it art ? learn anything, or did you just get off ? in a nutshell, didn't that music actually eventually just waste your time ?

george gosset (gegoss), Monday, 21 October 2002 12:45 (twenty-three years ago)

george that was :-0 great

8%
11%
13%
2%

fuckin hell I seem to hate everything

Ray M (rdmanston), Monday, 21 October 2002 22:27 (twenty-three years ago)

Bah that is mental. The big problem is the weird placing of hip-hop.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 21 October 2002 23:12 (twenty-three years ago)

26 % enjoys reflective and complex music
33 % enjoys edgy and aggressive music
9 % enjoys fun and simple music
2 % enjoys energetic and upbeat music

what total piffle

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Monday, 21 October 2002 23:21 (twenty-three years ago)

george, you make we wish I liked Britney Spears.

Rockist Scientist, Monday, 21 October 2002 23:22 (twenty-three years ago)

George the great thing about music is that it's an almost uniquely flexible art form because you can do almost anything else while it's playing. To dismiss one or the other activity as 'background' is to miss the point - it's the mesh of music and context that makes music so rewarding. I might as well accuse you of being emotionally sterile in your approach to music because you only 'listen', you don't fit it into your life.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 21 October 2002 23:27 (twenty-three years ago)

I generally like music that's meant to be played loud. This usually means that it puts emphasis on highs and lows, pitch-wise, has a percussive sound, and is relatively dense. I don't like stuff that's angry, though. If it has lyrics, I prefer that they aren't too inane. I also tend to gravitate towards minor scales (or songs that don't have any specific scale, as long as it's done wisely.)

Of course there are exceptions.. too many to name. But that's a basic description.

Curtis Stephens, Tuesday, 22 October 2002 01:40 (twenty-three years ago)

78% complex, 54% aggro, 58% simple, 75% upbeat.

Less inaccurate oversimplification: I have an inherent bias towards fast, tuneful music. Beyond that my taste has a lot to to do with lyrics.

B:Rad (Brad), Tuesday, 22 October 2002 02:33 (twenty-three years ago)

Tom, to fit it into your life, i believe the music either
a) hypnotically seeps into your household chores or late night shenanigans (ie music as background or lubricant)
or
b) allows your brain to think/ feel the music as the music /ideas unfold (endless flexible art blah)

maybe these two ways are all part of one _or way, but at some point i think you have to seperate exploitation from enrichment -- shouldn't they be mutually exclusive, xor ? some music gives and some music takes, just like books, movies, tv, radio, mags etc.

the methods musicians use to cast their spells are sometimes transparent, old carny tricks if you like, but opaque to those exploited by the top 40 -- is their any utlimate enrichment, benefit etc. to us if all that is provided is fantastic escapism ? whistling while you work will not do much for your pay packet and dancing can lead to satiation, unconsciousness, s.t.d.s, babies

on the other hand, if you use the music to really engage you, well it's still part of your life -- ironically much more so in the case of non-exploitative music -- there must be some cumulative benefit to engage your conscious and unconscious brain, to keep you coming back

the idea that music is some magical special art is as true for music as for any of the other entertainment industries, that's if you don't draw that line in the sand -- look at the collective conscienceless un/ consciousness of some of the world's largest media dominated states and tell me whether the listeners are knowledgeable and hey, even slightly worldy, or whether they're dominated manipulated ripped-off drones, and maybe a little ugly on the side

george gosset (gegoss), Tuesday, 22 October 2002 05:43 (twenty-three years ago)

ah george - you make me feel YOUNG again!
(but I hope you don't listen to music while you're driving)

No - there's something in what you're saying I sort of agree with, and which also causes me trouble - I don't regard all modes of consumption as 'equal' either.
If *pressed* I don't know if most of ILM do either - but it would probably be largely seen as a more relaxed/neutral issue, one of those 'please (or displease) yourself' arguments: eg no moral/intellectual weight should be attached to this, meaning is in the mind of the interpreter, so what if others use/get used by this or that in this or that way, you can use it differently, or use that idea in itself as another dimension of your listening/understanding (like you, and from a different angle Tom too, seem to), or there's the 'but you've always got YOUR ORIGINAL RESPONSE to go back to' (cf music in ads) or the 'there's no sensible stable disjunction between those modes of perception anyway' etcetc

Tom - as you noticed on the 'ambient' thread, I more often find it's that same 'unique flexibility' and 'mesh of music and context' you have articulated above that makes music such a wearing/tiring/exasperating obsession!

Ray M (rdmanston), Tuesday, 22 October 2002 09:13 (twenty-three years ago)

Dancing can also lead to more acute consciousness, though not necessarily with emphasis on the intellect.

George, because of the way you say these things, I would never want to agree, even if I agreed.

Rockist Scientist, Tuesday, 22 October 2002 16:50 (twenty-three years ago)

''the methods musicians use to cast their spells are sometimes transparent, old carny tricks if you like, but opaque to those exploited by the top 40 -- is their any utlimate enrichment, benefit etc. to us if all that is provided is fantastic escapism ? whistling while you work will not do much for your pay packet and dancing can lead to satiation, unconsciousness, s.t.d.s, babies''

WTF george?! isn't there escapism in listening to any type of music. that's an element that's there, no?

and what's this abt whistling to work, you phrase as if its wrong to do it. clarify please.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 22 October 2002 17:03 (twenty-three years ago)

i'm a snob.

dyson (dyson), Tuesday, 22 October 2002 18:23 (twenty-three years ago)

According to that survey, I don't actually like ANYTHING. Except drugs. And I don't TAKE drugs, so go figure.

kate, Tuesday, 22 October 2002 18:24 (twenty-three years ago)

i think there's some music that is most dominantly escapist, maybe even uses the desire for escapism as it's m.o., and that that's more escapist than music that allows for escapism within a coherent relevant maybe imaginative but non-distractive whole, a whole in which escapism is far from dominant and not strategy

there'll hopefully always be something to whistle to, so which music ? stuff that engages you reasonably fully mentally and augments what your dominant purpose at the time might be (work (?)) ie do you get the work done faster whistling something (not) mindless _or slower but better _or more enjoyably ? ..or conversely in some leisurely situation, does it augment usefully ? doesn't it move work nearer leisure ..or isn't it constructive ? too escapist ?

george gosset (gegoss), Wednesday, 23 October 2002 02:16 (twenty-three years ago)

so is it a question of where you escape to then?

'creative' music leads to stranger places whereas more 'pop' stuff is not so good?

whistling=> music that is stored in memeory, but it may not just be 'pop', though it is easier to remember thereforte you can whistle.

but still, whatever i listen is lodged in my memory somehow. i may not be able to whistle it but i may remmeber bits of it here and there.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 23 October 2002 08:24 (twenty-three years ago)

oh i meant whistling along listening
eg catchy pop tune background motivates in a i guess more physical way

whistling/ thinking/ remembering along with more creative music you're ok somewhat familiar with may distract _or it may augment mental task at hand, engage brain (and maybe body), memory background process stimulating other neural activities

admittedly probably always activities both useful and useless,
so i think that if there's a c.n.s. 'dance' side effect that's not peripheral then hopefully 'work' is mentally interesting in some kind'a multi-dexterous way

so no to escapism if avoidable given parallel available useful stimulus, not escapism, more i'd say "keeping you warm"

george gosset (gegoss), Thursday, 24 October 2002 03:07 (twenty-three years ago)


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