overplayed style

Was just peaking in here to marvel at the fact that this conversation is still going. You all have a lot to say about this, huh?

While doing so I saw this: And the whole thing about clothing having or needing a narrative goes back at least as far as J Peterman, who did it first and best, imo, and sold exactly these kinds of overpriced artisinal wares. My parents got the catalog when I was little and I used to read it cover to cover. I thought it was the greatest thing. Also, someone once told me that the guy who played Peterman on Seinfeld was actually J Peterman and for the longest time I totally believed them.

peaking? peeking. ugh.

'Real' prep is indebted to old money southern gentleman just as it is the Kennedys.

We didn't get the Peterman catalog because lol rural midwest, but I saw the catalog once or twice like at someone's house in another state or on vacation or w/e and I would read it cover to cover, every single item descrip. For someone whose only escape from small-town reality was ALREADY reading fiction for as much of her waking time as humanly possible, that catalog was just as fictional and just as aspirational as any fantasy novel.

if you wanted to distill real prep down to one fundamental garment itd be khaki pants

The Kennedys?? I never thought of them as defining prep, rather I would have thought they were furiously busy emulating it as closely as possible. Unless you just mean the whole Eastern Seaboard old moneyed thing.

'Real' prep is indebted to old money southern gentleman just as it is the Kennedys.

maybe this is just my new england parochialism but -- no, i really don't think it is

yeah kennedys arent old money - joe was a self made man etc - not that they werent style icons

Jackie made them style icons after the fact, I rather think.

The stylistic differences between coastal, moneyed dudes in MA, VA and GA in the '60s (and the current prep revival piece is mostly idolizing Take Ivy from the mid-60s) are pretty small.

a friend of mines family is one of those depleted old money new england clans - like they have this amazing old estate but not particularly the cash to go with it - they made their money from rope, ROPE like for sailing vessels, strange world

yall get that real prep is an oxymoron right

http://grab.by/8Y5T

eh its an actual culture, i wouldnt expect someone from NEW JERSEY to understand that

oh right i forgot about all the ivy league schools in the south

wait no i didn't

there are prep schools in nj

In the U.S. region of New England, the term is not necessarily pejorative or even related to class, as "preppy" clothing is relatively normative.

this thread is lol

eh its an actual culture, i wouldnt expect someone from NEW JERSEY to understand that

― ice cr?m, Tuesday, February 15, 2011 4:23 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

dogg how many of your ancestors came over on the mayflower

all of them max, all of them

btw say hi to snookie

i wouldnt expect someone from NEW JERSEY to understand that

keep reading this in armisen's david paterson voice

right i'm not really talking about the preppy style re: the 80s handbook -- more like old coastal WASP heritage & the cottage on shelter island that goes with it

old coastal WASP heritage & the cottage on shelter island that goes with it versus lumberjack

btw say hi to snookie

― ice cr?m, Tuesday, February 15, 2011 4:28 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

shes from new york i tell you--new york

you know -- where they wear boat shoes on boats xp

think my style is more 'grizzled prospector' then 'lumberjack' at this point

btw at this point theres literally millions of people w/mayflower ancestry, tho i will take yr knowledge and proffering of said relationship as evidence of legit wasp culture, i myself am from california and just grew up w/these weirdos

<3 shelter island

you're from california?

MAYFLOWER ON BOTH SIDES JOE

ON BOTH SIDES

90% of the annoying ppl at the jersey shore are new yorkers who have drifted down the coast like garbage from fresh kills

there are a lot from RI too!

come to newport in june & i'll show u mad prep
--tangelo amour (elmo argonaut)

Newport is amazing. Annapolis MD super preppy as well. Elmo have you seen the prep blog by a lady from RI named Muffy? I enjoy it

also sorry for xposts, wish I could keep up but am at work reading off my phone

What max is saying is that his family tree looks more like a one-masted frigate.

n/a otm

feel like you guys arent taking my ancestry seriously enuf

I AM DESCENDED FROM THE FIRST WHITE WOMAN BORN IN NORTH AMERICA

THE FIRST

WHITE

WOMAN

bullshit

90% of the annoying ppl at the jersey shore are new yorkers who have drifted down the coast like garbage from fresh kills

― it made me wish batman had written an article on mfas (Edward III), Tuesday, February 15, 2011 4:35 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

there are a lot from RI too!

― max, Tuesday, February 15, 2011 4:35 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

ive been to new jersey u guys cant trick me!

xpost - wait - I actually believe you for some reason

you're from california?

― ENBB, Tuesday, February 15, 2011 4:34 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yep both parents too, moved to vt when i was four, boston at 8

I feel like max zinged me but I can't be sure

http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/2021006 <<< tens of millions of mayflower descendants

ON BOTH SIDES

not good enough do you have any declaration of independence signees

no but i have the first chief justice of the supreme court

okay thats dece, i have a guy who lol refused to sign the constitution

or maybe the declaration i cant remember

i guess we can be friends