yeah, growing up, I felt like being pale was higher status than being tan, because tan signified working outdoors (I think this was just me, and not actually cultural) and living somewhere inescapably sunny (e.g. inland), as opposed to working indoors and living in higher status places where it was cooler and foggy (e.g. coastal places like San Francisco or Monterey). But I remember in high school going to shows and wearing long sleeves and matte tights (even in summer) to hide the fact my arms and legs were tan. Oh yeah, and I'd wear lighter foundation (which probably looked awful) so that my face looked paler and less ruddy.
― sarahell, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 05:00 (five years ago) link
It’s worth bearing in mind that the UK youth heavy make-up thing is about how you look in selfies rather than how you look in the cold light of day to strangers in the street. It’s also aspirational - Famous Person X gets their nails done professionally and so can I (even if it means sitting in a window somewhere the technicians may or may not be employed under modern slavery conditions).I do think the caterpillar brow will be to this generation what the spiral home perm was to mine. But we all need old pictures to laugh at when we’re middle aged, right?
― Madchen, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 09:33 (five years ago) link
are we talking Instabrows or another look?
― sarahell, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 17:36 (five years ago) link
even my mum has been talking about microblading! she does have weedy eyebrows and would never ever go for a scouse brow or anything, but I'm still trying to dissuade her.I don't watch First Dates regularly but have seen a couple. It's quite good for a reality type show. I feel quite out of touch with normal young people.
― kinder, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 00:09 (five years ago) link
i wasn't in touch with normal young people even when i was youngit's ok!
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 01:04 (five years ago) link
It's crazy how one's eyebrows never grow back even after the minor-est of plucking. I have gotten glossier's boybrow (seems fine) and anastasia's brow pencil. I like how I look, but as I mentioned above or elsewhere?, I think I look like an evil baby who smokes cigars.
― Yerac, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 02:11 (five years ago) link
I wish my brows never grew back - I need to tidy them daily.
― Madchen, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 07:49 (five years ago) link
I did my eyebrows with henna. It's awesome.
― nathom, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 07:50 (five years ago) link
same here! though i got the $5 eyebrow grooming kit from Sephora and I feel like using that daily makes me look 100% more "together" than before -- like I feel that if your eyebrows look groomed it makes messy hair look less messy, whereas if both are all over the place, you just look like a mess, if that makes sense, though idk
― sarahell, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 18:32 (five years ago) link
Re: UK tanning trends, can we please discuss the concept of tanning (fake or bed) before you go on a sun holiday?
― gyac, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 18:49 (five years ago) link
Got to get that base, right?
― Right column Leftist (sunny successor), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 19:28 (five years ago) link
do not do it
do not
DO NOT
end of discussion
― mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 19:32 (five years ago) link
I think there was/is a myth that once you’ve tanned, you won’t burn.
― just1n3, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 19:51 (five years ago) link
That is a myth I have always subscribed to despite hard evidence to the contrary
― tangenttangent, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 19:58 (five years ago) link
Vonnegut was right.
Do not do it.
DO NOT DO IT
[/rant from pale-complected 45 year old who wishes she had heeded this advice]
― mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 20:01 (five years ago) link
oh ha posted multiple times BECAUSE YOU SHOULD HEED
― mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 20:02 (five years ago) link
Isn’t it as much about not having milk bottle legs for the first week?But yeah, sun beds are categorically proven to cause cancer, so...
― Madchen, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 20:12 (five years ago) link
And so is the actual sun, so. . .
If it is a matter of thinking you will feel more comfortable/have to use less product if you have a "base tan," I encourage you to think about it as working up a "base carcinoma."
― mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 20:37 (five years ago) link
Yeah its all about arriving at the beach looking attractive. I, btw, never tan, fake or no.
― Right column Leftist (sunny successor), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 20:39 (five years ago) link
Fake tans may have a good look ikd; I assume they have improved technologically over the years? But they provide zero sun protection over your original skin tone.
― mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 20:40 (five years ago) link
I'm pretty sure people apply sun lotion over their fake tans; it's promoted as sort of the healthy alternative to tanning (sun or bed) which seems fair. It still smells absolutely terrible though, from what I can tell. I accidentally bought a moisturiser that had fake tan in it a couple of years ago, and it's that slow-release rotten smell that you're suddenly aware of surrounded by people on the tube. The embodied smell of inauthenticity! Horror!
― tangenttangent, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 20:47 (five years ago) link
so much of that kind of stuff has a coconut smell (or fauxconut smell) that I don't like -- i have reconciled myself to the fact that almost every hair product for my hair type has coconut in it and gives my hair a slight coconut smell after I wash it, and i guess i've gotten used to it, somewhat, but i am thankful i don't have to wash my hair all that often, but I still avoid coconut smelling cosmetics and hair stuff as much as possible. ...
― sarahell, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 20:54 (five years ago) link
lol @ fauxconut
― Right column Leftist (sunny successor), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 20:59 (five years ago) link
i just made that up, and was quite proud.
― sarahell, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 21:01 (five years ago) link
lol fauxconut is a dreadful cosmetics ingredient - so sickly! When was that universally decided as the go-to scent? Fake tan is like a distillation of the most offensive of those scents.
xp!
― tangenttangent, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 21:02 (five years ago) link
granted, it's not as bad as if cosmetics smelled like tuna salad (the american kind w/lots of mayo), or like cat pee, but ... i guess i should count my blessings because at some point in the horrible future the smell trend of cosmetics could very well be tuna salad cat pee
― sarahell, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 21:06 (five years ago) link
How do people learn to apply makeup? I mean, I check out youtube and some three yo is doing it better than I can. Then again, everyone is better at this than I am. That's why I don't bother: I'm rub at it. Should gone to art class. (Btw nathom =stevienixed)
― nathom, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 21:33 (five years ago) link
stevienixed!!!!! so happy to see you!!!!!!
― mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Thursday, 31 January 2019 12:50 (five years ago) link
Thanks! I missed ilx. :-))
― nathom, Thursday, 31 January 2019 14:42 (five years ago) link
Serious answer for Nath: I have a feeling most people start with a couple of products - bit of concealer and some mascara maybe - and then build it from there (for me over the course of two decades). Pretty sure that if I’d gone straight from zero to my current 14-ish products I’d feel like I was wearing a mask.
― Madchen, Thursday, 31 January 2019 18:34 (five years ago) link
It literally took me seven years to get flicky eyeliner right at a reasonable speed.
― Madchen, Thursday, 31 January 2019 18:35 (five years ago) link
what's flicky eyeliner?
― sarahell, Thursday, 31 January 2019 18:54 (five years ago) link
Cat eye type eyeliner. Flicks up at the outer corner of the eye.
― Right column Leftist (sunny successor), Thursday, 31 January 2019 19:25 (five years ago) link
God I so desperately want to be able to do the eyeliner. 😭
― nathom, Thursday, 31 January 2019 19:39 (five years ago) link
I am still trying to make eyeliner happen without pulling the side of my eye out. It's so hard to change up and just look straight ahead.
― Yerac, Thursday, 31 January 2019 19:42 (five years ago) link
I don’t care about having milky white legs at the beach. I slather myself in SPF and haven’t been properly tan since I was a kid. I don’t actually like the way I look tan. I went was in the Bahamas last spring for a couple days and somehow forgot sunscreen. I for burned to a crisp and when it faded to tan I kept thinking my face was dirty.
I think Madchen’s right about learning makeup skills over time. I never actively tried to learn but have admired different MUA for years and I’ve just gotten better over time, I think.
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Thursday, 31 January 2019 23:13 (five years ago) link
haha this is the only make up thing I actually know how to do well!
― sarahell, Friday, 1 February 2019 17:31 (five years ago) link
one of my coworkers has the most amazing winged eyeliner, it almost looks tattooed it is so perfecti want to email her and say “hi what eyeliner do you use and also PLEASE TEACH ME YOUR WAYS”
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 1 February 2019 22:28 (five years ago) link
Really into cream blush atm, I am trying to track down the perfect color
― surm, Saturday, 22 June 2019 15:25 (four years ago) link
Bumping to mourn that Bourjois is being discontinued in the UK & Ireland! Used to love their eyeshadows, blushes and nail varnishes. Supposedly healthy mix is a good reasonably priced foundation but I’ve never got round to trying it...better move quick
― gyac, Saturday, 7 December 2019 17:15 (four years ago) link
I loved their eye shadows so much!
― tokyo rosemary, Saturday, 7 December 2019 17:32 (four years ago) link
Wtf! Nooooooooo! Healthy mix is really good value as is the nail varnish - it used to be made in the same factory as Chanel vernis, don’t know if that’s still the case but very high quality for the price.
― Madchen, Saturday, 7 December 2019 17:38 (four years ago) link
i am on a Dermablend thing latelynewly converted to their flawless control foundation.2 drops on a makeup brush gives me full coverage & it feels like a dream. sorcery or something idk v impressed
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 8 December 2019 00:30 (four years ago) link
On the foundation/concealer front, i’m seriously loving Il Makiage lately. Matches my skin like a dream and doesn’t get caked up in nook n crannies.
― But who are we doing it versus? (sunny successor), Sunday, 5 February 2023 12:51 (one year ago) link
Actually really want to try the Ogee contouring set but can’t quite bring myself to fork over the $$$ yet.
― But who are we doing it versus? (sunny successor), Sunday, 5 February 2023 12:53 (one year ago) link
― here you go, muttonchops Yaz (gyac), Sunday, 5 February 2023 15:16 (one year ago) link
Yes, thankfully they saw sense and re-entered the UK market. Phew!
― Madchen, Sunday, 5 February 2023 19:00 (one year ago) link
Lisa Eldridge’s lip glosses my favourite in a long while, gorgeous colour with zero stickiness. I have Go Lightly and Petal and they’re both perfect.
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Tuesday, 5 December 2023 10:14 (six months ago) link
I don't believe a non-sticky lip gloss exists!
This thread used to rule
I feel pretty--NOT! THE COSMETICS THREAD
^^ BTW I have now had several lash lifts and they work really well on me, except if either eye waters then it doesn't take quite as well.
― kinder, Tuesday, 5 December 2023 21:53 (six months ago) link
I love a lash lift for like two weeks, and then my new lashes start growing in and shit looks wonky for a month.
The widely heralded Japanese mascara Heroine Make sucks, I'm going back to Mabelline Lash Sensational!
― mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Tuesday, 5 December 2023 23:05 (six months ago) link