suncream, zits and wrinkles: rolling skincare thread?

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just got an email from sephora that they're offering a free "premium sample" of shiseido SPF 55 fancypants cream with any online purchase, if you enter "shiseido" at checkout. just wanted to post this as lauren seemed to enjoy her sample of this stuff, so might be worth ordering something to get big sample?

colette, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 03:28 (nine years ago) Permalink

if you can get to a store, i think you can get a sample w/out buying anything?

tehresa, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 03:40 (nine years ago) Permalink

Is this thread for facial scrub/cleanser/moisturiser? I have some awes knowledge that I want to impart.

Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 06:50 (nine years ago) Permalink

go on then

electricsound, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 06:52 (nine years ago) Permalink

colette, as tehresa said you can get a pretty generous sample at the store without buying anything. the big drawback is that it's not in a hygienic little tube.

i do like it, and i'm going to keep using it at the beach or whenever i'm going to be out in the sun for an extended period of time and see what happens. if my skin doesn't go crazy, i'll probably buy it.

lauren, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 13:31 (nine years ago) Permalink

i tried to by the avene eulage cream last night but the woman talked me down to the milder ystheal (i have no idea why duane reade employs a skin care specialist, but they do). i am kinda hoping retinoids will change my life as some people have really great experiences with them (gets rid of blackheads AND wrinkles!! at the same time!) but i guess i'll see.

bell_labs, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 13:48 (nine years ago) Permalink

but the woman talked me down to the milder ystheal (i have no idea why duane reade employs a skin care specialist, but they do).

cracks me up

Surmounter, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 13:49 (nine years ago) Permalink

i also have no idea why i listened to her? probably because she was wearing a lab coat?

bell_labs, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 13:52 (nine years ago) Permalink

haha yes

Surmounter, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 13:53 (nine years ago) Permalink

is this a logical train of thought?:

if you have fine lines and you get restaline or juvederm or some kind of filler to push them out would it make sense that those lines wont get much deeper (well not as fast as the natural progression) because your face doesnt crinkle in that spot in the same way when you laugh, smile, frown etc?

sunny successor, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 14:49 (nine years ago) Permalink

"restylane", i guess

sunny successor, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 14:51 (nine years ago) Permalink

i think that makes sense but the idea of fillers still scares me

bell_labs, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 14:55 (nine years ago) Permalink

regular botox treatment is claimed by some to prevent further wrinkling for the reason that you mention. i think fillers are more for areas that don't move as much, but i'm not sure...?

lauren, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 15:01 (nine years ago) Permalink

hm. i wonder if there is anything i can do to prevent wrinkles if i go to gradschool next year. i will be working full time and going to school full-time and i expect that i will never sleep. i will probably look like i'm 40 after a year of this.

bell_labs, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 15:10 (nine years ago) Permalink

Every day I express gratitude for the existence of sunscreen. I get a gradient darker just standing outside without it, and within a month I become Oompa-Loompa color.

Abbott, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 15:35 (nine years ago) Permalink

ladies & gent, what do you think of 'olay regenerist uv defense regenerating lotion spf 15'

i wanted a sunscreen + moisturizer & stole that from my mom but my bottle is long empty

the only other one ive tried is cetaphil spf 15 & i thought the olay one felt much more soothing ( i have v dry skin)

my followup question is, does spf 15 actually do anything anyway?

deeznuts, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 15:43 (nine years ago) Permalink

in the amount that you get from an application of moisturizer, probably not.

lauren, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 15:46 (nine years ago) Permalink

so what is a good sunscreen to put on the face then? and should it go on before or after moisturizer?

deeznuts, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 15:48 (nine years ago) Permalink

i apply it after. neutrogena's for the face are good. you don't nec. need a super high spf, but you need to apply enough - about a teaspoon , i've heard - and reapply if you're going to be in the sun for a while.

lauren, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 15:51 (nine years ago) Permalink

I have the Oil of Olay 'daily defense' 30 spf moisturizer, and it does me right.

Abbott, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 15:59 (nine years ago) Permalink

i'm liking the olay "time delay" day and night creams, they have BHAs and seem to be moisturizing without breaking me out. it's SPF 15 which i figure is enough if i'm inside all day, but i just put the neutrogena dry touch stuff on today when i was cycling in, and i'm actually surprised at how un shiny i am.

i think maybe if you're a very shiny person (i am in the summer) one of the dry sunblocks on its own might be the ticket, when i put it on over moisturizer i'm pretty greasy quickly. obviously YMMV.

colette, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 16:00 (nine years ago) Permalink

that sounds perfect abbott! i thought they were all spf 15s. its not v expensive at all either.

what a great board!

deeznuts, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 16:04 (nine years ago) Permalink

the dry touch is pretty nice. it definitely has a matifying effect.

i'm on the fence about whether to buy the dr. brandt pores no more stuff. i like the sample that i got, but it's so expensive i don't know if i can justify it. it does really seem to minimize the pores. is there anything cheaper that works in the same way?

bell_labs, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 16:05 (nine years ago) Permalink

linds, was totally thinking abt all the pore questions of old thread and okay okay here's my discovery (via my mom, who has been visiting since friday):

i know i mention aveda often but i'm pretty discriminating abt their products, as a lot are too much for me anyway, BUT holy whoa, they have these salicylic acid toner pads that are as shockingly expensive as they are shockingly effective. i started using them friday and they caused an initial and very slight uh swelling of major pore areas (plus it was really hot & humid out) but now my skin is so calm and pores so clean & diminished and happy! it is kind of crazy.

the thing is that i can't use other salicylic acid things b/c they're lotions or whatever and just too heavy, but these aren't causing problems! i will check back in a week re: these but so far i am amazed. and yknow my skin will break out at anything. i haven't put any other medication or zit treatment or anything on my face either while using these. so yeah, neat.

rrrobyn, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 16:25 (nine years ago) Permalink

On Saturday I wore the neutrogena spf 70 and neutrogena glow sheer spf 30, which is probaby overkill.

Oh, and a hat.

tokyo rosemary, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 16:27 (nine years ago) Permalink

spf 70!!!!!!! damn

deeznuts, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 16:27 (nine years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

my seemingly bottomless pot of avon eye cream finally ran out. replaced it with boscia's enlivening amino eye treatment - yay! i've been wanting this stuff for a while.

lauren, Friday, 4 July 2008 20:47 (nine years ago) Permalink

I also bought spf 70 yesterday, prompted by my dermatologist.

bell_labs, Friday, 4 July 2008 21:56 (nine years ago) Permalink

yes so the neutrogena dry touch 55 is apparently completely useless against tropical sun and i became horribly burnt on my first full day in maui. after that, purchased coppertone spray 70 which was weird, and then found that the coppertone sport 50 actually works really well. however, i am peeling like crazy, and the skin right above my breasts and next to my pits is so incredibly burned it's scary looking. those two corners burned way more than anywhere else. the pain has gone away, but what is a good cream/treatment to reduce scarring/mottling?

tehresa, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 01:53 (nine years ago) Permalink

oddly, though, the ny sun feels like nothing to me now! i will still wear lots of sunscreen, though!

tehresa, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 01:54 (nine years ago) Permalink

Is this thread for facial scrub/cleanser/moisturiser? I have some awes knowledge that I want to impart.

-- Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 07:50 (Wednesday, 18 June 2008 07:50)

Such a tease... Tell all plz.

I'm looking for a moisturiser for the face that's good on mixed skin i.e. greasy in places, dry in others. It also has to let the skin breathe and if possible soothe after a shave.

For years I've been using straightforward aqueous cream but I'm not so sure it's good for my skin having tried something else this past while.

hyggeligt, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 10:58 (nine years ago) Permalink

T -- any of the soothing herbal combinations: aloe, comfrey, chamomile, calendula. Or Vitamin E. Keeping the skin/wound moist is the best way to reduce scarring, the vit E or aloe will do that.

Laurel, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 13:12 (nine years ago) Permalink

when i was in hawaii i got an awful 3rd degree burn (from hot oil, not the sun) but there were tons of aloe plants everywhere and so i just put that on it constantly. i have no scar from it (which is amazing, it was a huge burn).

bell_labs, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 14:01 (nine years ago) Permalink

guys i just made my first sephora order. now i know what youre all talking about with the samples you get. excited!

sunny successor, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 19:13 (nine years ago) Permalink

also found out there is a sephora right here in little rock. who knew?

sunny successor, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 19:13 (nine years ago) Permalink

I get little bumpy spots on my forehead, you can't really see them, but they still piss me off. I have very short hair, don't use gel, wash hair with Vosene and face with witch doctor face scrub every day... but they don't go away!

What to do?

Bodrick III, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 22:04 (nine years ago) Permalink

it may be from heat/sweating? try to stay dry. or you may be over-cleansing/scrubbing.

tehresa, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 00:13 (nine years ago) Permalink

sunny i didn't know you were in little rock! one of my good friends lives down there

Surmounter, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 00:14 (nine years ago) Permalink

So hydroquinone is supposed to be evil and carcinogenic right? I am trying to fade a couple discolored spots on my legs (leftover from ingrown hairs) and I'm wondering if this is a bad idea...

bell_labs, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 00:50 (nine years ago) Permalink

it may be from heat/sweating? try to stay dry. or you may be over-cleansing/scrubbing.

If you're using all that stuff regularly then yes, I think that could be your problem. I would avoid using anything abrasive on them.

hyggeligt, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 10:01 (nine years ago) Permalink

No no all he said was he uses a certain shampoo and a witch hazel toner, that's not much at all -- in fact, only one facial product!

Bodrick, impossible to say, really, but start trying things. Is your pillowcase clean? Do you touch your face during the day? Drink a few glasses of water a day? Maybe try giving up caffeine for two weeks and see if that makes a difference, etc etc etc. Think of it as an exciting experiment.

Laurel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 13:16 (nine years ago) Permalink

Or stop the witch hazel and try an exfoliant like the St Ives apricot scrub -- it's not fancy and some people don't like it, but it's not a bad start. (I don't want to give anyone sticker shock by recommending a $30 tub of something.)

Laurel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 13:18 (nine years ago) Permalink

A little bit of baking soda mixed with soap/cleanser does a nice job of gently exfoliating. That apricot stuff has really large granules and I heard that's not so good for skin, being so abrasive. Also bs is so cheap it's almost free.

iirc, Colette taught me this trick!

La Lechera, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 13:26 (nine years ago) Permalink

Is your friend as sweet as you, Surm?

sunny successor, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 14:06 (nine years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I love the St Ives for my face, but then I use corn meal on my body and that's even scratchier (I love scratchy). I think Julia told me about the baking soda! It's a Chicago thing, apparently. But the baking soda is too fine for me and I never feel smooth after using.

Laurel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 14:26 (nine years ago) Permalink


lauren, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 14:32 (nine years ago) Permalink

No no all he said was he uses a certain shampoo and a witch hazel toner, that's not much at all -- in fact, only one facial product!

Ah, I didn't really read it and thought Vosene was some kind of American cleanser that sounded very chemical!

St Ives apricot scrub -- it's not fancy and some people don't like it

Why not? (ah I see that this has been answered) I think I can get that here and if it's good for blackheads?

Actually what is good for blackheads and sensitive skin?

A little bit of baking soda mixed with soap/cleanser does a nice job of gently exfoliating.

Wouldn't it burn the face off you? Ah, I see not.

I am like Laurel, I prefer something that has a bit of 'bite' but sadly that wreaks havoc on my skin. There was a very good exfoliator a while ago that I stole from someone, I wonder if I can still find it and buy more.

hyggeligt, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 14:57 (nine years ago) Permalink

I with Laurel on this too. I like feel like im taking a few layers of skin off.

sunny successor, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 14:59 (nine years ago) Permalink

has anyone ever had a lactic peel? there is some spa offering them for $50 for the month of july which is half of what it usually costs, but i'm afraid my skin is too sensitive. it's supposed to be less intense than a glycolic peel though.

bell_labs, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 15:00 (nine years ago) Permalink

listen dudes, i like the scratchy and i like the feeling of taking off dead layers of skin, but liking it doesn't make it good for my skin. i only use baking soda on the face because it's sensitive. on the rest of me i would happily use a sandblaster, but i settle for some crappy scrubbing thing i got at marshalls.

let me add that i enjoy exfoliating so much that i bought the god-forsaken ped-egg, and it wasn't tuff enough for me! in fact, it sucked and didn't take off but the top layer of dead foot skin. not recommended!

La Lechera, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 15:18 (nine years ago) Permalink

Also if you have a new fave sunscreen tell me

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Thursday, 8 February 2018 01:58 (three months ago) Permalink

Lately I like Avene Hydrance Optimale SPF 25 for winter/minimal sun exposure. I'm gonna need something more hardcore for upcoming beach vacation.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Thursday, 8 February 2018 02:57 (three months ago) Permalink

When I was in Hawaii for 5 months last year we basically just used the No-AD kids spf 50. Neither of us ever got burnt and I tend to burn. I had never heard of No-AD before but saw a lot of it at the beach.

Yerac, Thursday, 8 February 2018 14:42 (three months ago) Permalink

And I always had some bottles of random spray sunscreen for the part in my hair and ears and feet, I wear cheap hats and sunglasses in the waterif the water is calmish.

Yerac, Thursday, 8 February 2018 14:45 (three months ago) Permalink

I got the Vanicream that VegemiteGrrrl (I think?) recommended and it's been great for me. Less thick/sticky than the Neutrogena mineral one but same SPF. I've been using TiZO2 mineral one on my face as well as a tinted Coola one for daily. The Coola one feels a bit oily so I don't use it as often.

Jaq, Thursday, 8 February 2018 15:42 (three months ago) Permalink

So apparently La Mer and the German formulation of Nivea are nearly exactly the same cream. La Mer has antioxidants in it but because it's in a jar they are rendered ineffective every time it's opened and the cream is exposed to light. The only other thing la Mer has that the German Nivea does not is kelp. I don't know that I'll be buying the Nivea any time soon because of this but it's pretty interesting. Note this is not the Nivea we get here that is slightly diff but it is the one available in the blue tin in Germany/UK/Rest of Europe and if you really want it you can get it here for 7 clams:

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Thursday, 8 February 2018 19:13 (three months ago) Permalink

ha! they sell it hidden in the corner by customer service at my grocery store! there are a bunch of euro products over there, hair masks and bottles entirely in russian, all kinds of stuff

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 8 February 2018 19:15 (three months ago) Permalink

I used to use No-AD SPF 50, until I had some sort of breakout where I'd applied it. Currently I use a CVS-brand "sensitive skin" sunscreen.

Polly of the Pre-Codes (, Thursday, 8 February 2018 19:18 (three months ago) Permalink

Have you tried the kid's version of No-AD? We got it because my partner has eczema and we didn't have any noticeable issues. I found that it lasts a long time too (don't need to reapply it as much).

Yerac, Friday, 9 February 2018 20:13 (three months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

My skincare (The Ordinary) products and hair oil were lost in my luggage for a week but finally showed up (minus the hair oil that was taken out). I definitely feel like my skin is smoother. As far as evening out of tone, I think i should've taken a before pic. But overall, I would rebuy and try other things in The Ordinary line.

Yerac, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 14:12 (two months ago) Permalink

things seem to be going more-than-slightly TITS-UP in the Deciem universe rn.

I always order from a Uk site called Victoria Health which, along with Deciem themselves, are the main UK distributor. I order from VH because they deliver quickly and, if something happens to be not in stock they don't deduct that money from you until it is in stock. That was they will allow you their free-postage bonus (over a limit) but send what they do have in stock free then send you the other thing that happened to not be in stock shortly afterward. They have great customer service and will address a query very quickly. Really great company, in my experience. I received a recent order that was minus one item (and hadn't been charged for it but got an efficent response telling me theey would post it asap). Great. If you look at the Deciem website to order from there, there are no commitments to timescales with regard to sending out orders so I am always leery (lol veg) at ordering from them since I have heard some bad reports. A few weeks later I get an email from VH apologising for the delay and explaining that the item wasn't available yet even though they were meant to have received it from the supplier. Broken distribution chain. Again, fine with me. Today I got a very polite email from Victoria Health saying that they were severing all contact with Deciem and would no longer be stocking any of their lines. Weird. Interesting.

I googled and found a thread on a facebook group where people were discussing that severance of ties. and found a link to this:

and also a link to Deciem's insta which the founder, Brandon Truaxe, seems to have taken over. It seems that his co-founder has recently been sacked, that lots of other people have left Deciem and that Brandon has gone, well, a bit weird with regard to that social media presence. If you look at their insta you see posts linking to negative reports but posted as if they were endorsements of Deciem alongside posts detailing launches of new products, of new lines and of new stores while the comments are complaining about not receiving products they ordered or complaing about being on long waiting lists. In other words, why are they bragging about opening hip new stores in brooklyn and london while people aren't getting the products they ordered and there's no let up in waiting lists for things that people love. They even announced the imminent launch of a new line based on middle eastern scents and soaps while people are complaining about not getting things they have been waiting for for months.

The posts seem weirdly insouciant and careless and kind of arrogant. It's not like people NEEEED their Matrixyl or their Copper Amino solutions to survive but there's something deeply weird about how they are conducting their business. I hope they get it sorted because, regardless, of personal or interpersonal beefs I really do delight in a lot of these products.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 02:38 (two months ago) Permalink

Has anyone dealt with small red bumps on the tip of the nose that don’t go away? Sometimes they just reconfigure themselves.

I went to the dermatologist and he said it was rosacea and gave me two meds: finacea foam for day and metronidazole cream for night.

I’ve been using both for a few weeks with only a slight improvement. Any ideas?

Virginia Plain, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 03:23 (two months ago) Permalink

xpost Jed, you should read the glassdoor reviews of working at the company. I worked at the architecture firm that did a bunch of American Apparel stores everywhere. Deciem reminds me so much of how AA conducted their business model, expansion and branding (they couldn't pay anyone for months past work completed and would wait for liens to be placed before shifting funds but still kept opening stores). Same self absorbed founder too. I still like the product though. They should just allow Estee Lauder to manage everything.

Yerac, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 13:17 (two months ago) Permalink

I am getting stressed out thinking about it. It was the worst job I have ever had because AA was so inept. I had a meltdown at one store in Miami because everyone who worked for AA was completely useless and would show up half a day late to any meeting. Even 6 months after I quit I was still getting calls from contractors who hadn't been paid who hoped I could help get them their money.

Yerac, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 13:22 (two months ago) Permalink

(XP) If you haven’t already come across it, Sali Hughes’ rosacea advice is here:

As previously mentioned by others, her recommendations are always worth investigating.

Madchen, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 13:23 (two months ago) Permalink

Yerac, AA was the first thing I thought of with regard to this but I forgot to mention it in my post!

Heavy Messages (jed_), Thursday, 8 March 2018 02:51 (two months ago) Permalink

Even 6 months after I quit I was still getting calls from contractors who hadn't been paid who hoped I could help get them their money.

this doesn't surprise me one bit, Y.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Thursday, 8 March 2018 03:00 (two months ago) Permalink

regardless of that, I agree with you about getting estee to run things. And it would be a huge plus for them since, who actually cares about estee, as a brand, who's under, like, 55 but i'm pretty sure they have logistics down.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Thursday, 8 March 2018 03:05 (two months ago) Permalink

I got the Alpha Lipoic Acid from there and it smells like toasting bread when I put it on. I am like, "am I dying?"

Yerac, Thursday, 8 March 2018 12:28 (two months ago) Permalink

I like the smell but I think of it more as burning wires from an electrical appliance that's about to blow.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Thursday, 8 March 2018 13:24 (two months ago) Permalink

I've been making my spouse use it and I probably should've warned him first.

Yerac, Thursday, 8 March 2018 13:38 (two months ago) Permalink

Just went to the dermatologist for my follow up. He thinks my rosacea is under control. Now he wants to blast off my dark spots. Has anyone had this done? We started with one to see how my skin would react.

Virginia Plain, Monday, 12 March 2018 15:52 (two months ago) Permalink

Oh I also binged The Sinner, since it was on Dutch Netflix. So fucking weird, especially the creepy incest scene. Don’t think I’d recommend it. The coincidences were just too much.

just1n3, Monday, 12 March 2018 16:54 (two months ago) Permalink

SORRY wrong thread

just1n3, Monday, 12 March 2018 16:54 (two months ago) Permalink


Heavy Messages (jed_), Monday, 12 March 2018 17:24 (two months ago) Permalink

What did your derm use to blast off the spots?

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Monday, 12 March 2018 23:20 (two months ago) Permalink

i want a spot blasting! what kind of $$$$ does that cost?

Right column Leftist (sunny successor), Thursday, 15 March 2018 21:37 (two months ago) Permalink


mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Friday, 16 March 2018 01:44 (two months ago) Permalink

I believe it was liquid nitrogen--came in a canister with a spout. We didn't talk about cost, he just offered it at the end of the session.

He said that the spot would turn darker, then crusty, then flake off. At this point, it is just much darker, not crusty at all. Not sure if it is working.

Virginia Plain, Friday, 16 March 2018 15:11 (two months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

ordinary pros: Release of a new version of the buffet next wednesday with the addition of copper peptides in the solution! Also a new product - Sea Buckthorn oil, which is good for psoriasis, eczema and rosacia.

ordinary cons: Brandon Truaxe's escalation towards complete meltdown.

DJ U OK Hun? (jed_), Thursday, 5 April 2018 22:16 (one month ago) Permalink

I am reading up on this now. I wonder what his deal is, or if that's just him.

Yerac, Thursday, 5 April 2018 23:55 (one month ago) Permalink

I like how he offered $20k in products to the one girl who he screencapped her private account. Maybe he just likes to get wasted and troll online like most of the world.

Yerac, Friday, 6 April 2018 00:16 (one month ago) Permalink

“Paula Begoun, the Ralph Nader of the skin care industry” omg this killing me

just1n3, Friday, 6 April 2018 00:30 (one month ago) Permalink

The Ordinary guy fired his co CEO - her interview here shows how fucking smart this woman is: it’s less an interview and more the perfect cover letter to every high level position in every big-deal up-and-coming beauty company

just1n3, Monday, 9 April 2018 07:32 (one month ago) Permalink

Truaxe reminds me a bit of Sheela from Wild, Wild Country

just1n3, Monday, 9 April 2018 08:31 (one month ago) Permalink

Started with some 10% glycolic overnight stuff and waiting impatiently for benefits to manifest.

Jaq, Monday, 9 April 2018 15:46 (one month ago) Permalink

So the liquid nitrogen didn’t work—my test spot got darker and then just got lighter again (it was supposed to get dark then crusty then fall off). The dermatologist is giving me some cream fro lighten dark spots and recommends a chemical peel. Has anyone ever done this? It’s not covered by insurance and I’m not sure if it’s worth it.

Virginia Plain, Monday, 9 April 2018 22:07 (one month ago) Permalink

VP, are your dark spots from the sun? I was thinking of trying Skin Laundry when I am back in town.

Yerac, Monday, 9 April 2018 22:12 (one month ago) Permalink

This Deciem thing is waaaay beyond the pale.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Monday, 9 April 2018 22:48 (one month ago) Permalink

It’s nuts! I hope Truaxe has family who can step in. IANAD but it seems like he’s exhibiting classic signs of a psychotic break or bipolar episode? Someone needs to get him medical help before things get any worse.

just1n3, Monday, 9 April 2018 23:01 (one month ago) Permalink

I was thinking about ordering some stuff right as I found out about the drama so now I’m too nervous to place an order.

just1n3, Monday, 9 April 2018 23:02 (one month ago) Permalink

i know what you mean.

re: psychosis, it's definitely evident. i've posted some weird shit online when i've been drunk and seriously regretted it but he doesn't seem like a drinker.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Monday, 9 April 2018 23:06 (one month ago) Permalink

It looks like he admits in interviews to not getting along with former partners, having ADD and talking a lot. Where did he get the money to start this line anyway?

Yerac, Tuesday, 10 April 2018 00:05 (one month ago) Permalink

I've no idea but I'm glad he did. I feel pretty happy when I look in the mirror atm and that's absolutely down to The Ordinary. I just hope the company can weather this.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Tuesday, 10 April 2018 00:11 (one month ago) Permalink

Oh, I totally like the things that I have gotten so far. Although, I've been very lazy about keeping up a routine and need to restart it because I definitely saw improvement. I was using the niacinimide+zinc in the morning and then alternating between the lactic acid 10%, absorbyl glucoside or alpha lipoic acid at night. I know I could layer more, but I've only been using one at a time under moisturizer. I have the big bottle of Hyaluronic acid from The Chemistry Brand but I've only been using that randomly on body parts.

Yerac, Tuesday, 10 April 2018 00:17 (one month ago) Permalink

The alpha-lipoic acid is just the best.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Tuesday, 10 April 2018 00:30 (one month ago) Permalink

It is the best. I know for sure I will buy that again because my skin looks noticeably better the next day when I use it. I like the other things I got but may try something new. I had been going by the below site regarding what to buy since it broke down the ingredients in a way I could follow. I think that is why I didn't get the Ascorbyl Tetraisopalmitate Solution 20% in Vitamin F because of what it said, but I might pick it up anyway next time since you love it so much.

Yerac, Saturday, 14 April 2018 19:22 (one month ago) Permalink

"but I might pick it up anyway next time since you love it so much."

I may slightly backtrack on that. one or two people mentioned that I was looking very red after using that but it might have been the booze :)

Heavy Messages (jed_), Wednesday, 18 April 2018 00:43 (one month ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

some of my current skincare is running low so i finally ordered some stuff from The Ordinary -
- the glycolic acid toner
- virgin marula oil
- alpha arbutin stuff

looks like there are big delays in shipping thought, so it might be a few weeks before i get it

just1n3, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 00:46 (two weeks ago) Permalink

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