suncream, zits and wrinkles: rolling skincare thread?

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just got an email from sephora that they're offering a free "premium sample" of shiseido SPF 55 fancypants cream with any online purchase, if you enter "shiseido" at checkout. just wanted to post this as lauren seemed to enjoy her sample of this stuff, so might be worth ordering something to get big sample?

colette, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 03:28 (ten years ago) Permalink

if you can get to a store, i think you can get a sample w/out buying anything?

tehresa, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 03:40 (ten years ago) Permalink

Is this thread for facial scrub/cleanser/moisturiser? I have some awes knowledge that I want to impart.

Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 06:50 (ten years ago) Permalink

go on then

electricsound, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 06:52 (ten years ago) Permalink

colette, as tehresa said you can get a pretty generous sample at the store without buying anything. the big drawback is that it's not in a hygienic little tube.

i do like it, and i'm going to keep using it at the beach or whenever i'm going to be out in the sun for an extended period of time and see what happens. if my skin doesn't go crazy, i'll probably buy it.

lauren, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 13:31 (ten years ago) Permalink

i tried to by the avene eulage cream last night but the woman talked me down to the milder ystheal (i have no idea why duane reade employs a skin care specialist, but they do). i am kinda hoping retinoids will change my life as some people have really great experiences with them (gets rid of blackheads AND wrinkles!! at the same time!) but i guess i'll see.

bell_labs, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 13:48 (ten years ago) Permalink

but the woman talked me down to the milder ystheal (i have no idea why duane reade employs a skin care specialist, but they do).

cracks me up

Surmounter, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 13:49 (ten years ago) Permalink

i also have no idea why i listened to her? probably because she was wearing a lab coat?

bell_labs, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 13:52 (ten years ago) Permalink

haha yes

Surmounter, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 13:53 (ten years ago) Permalink

is this a logical train of thought?:

if you have fine lines and you get restaline or juvederm or some kind of filler to push them out would it make sense that those lines wont get much deeper (well not as fast as the natural progression) because your face doesnt crinkle in that spot in the same way when you laugh, smile, frown etc?

sunny successor, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 14:49 (ten years ago) Permalink

"restylane", i guess

sunny successor, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 14:51 (ten years ago) Permalink

i think that makes sense but the idea of fillers still scares me

bell_labs, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 14:55 (ten years ago) Permalink

regular botox treatment is claimed by some to prevent further wrinkling for the reason that you mention. i think fillers are more for areas that don't move as much, but i'm not sure...?

lauren, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 15:01 (ten years ago) Permalink

hm. i wonder if there is anything i can do to prevent wrinkles if i go to gradschool next year. i will be working full time and going to school full-time and i expect that i will never sleep. i will probably look like i'm 40 after a year of this.

bell_labs, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 15:10 (ten years ago) Permalink

Every day I express gratitude for the existence of sunscreen. I get a gradient darker just standing outside without it, and within a month I become Oompa-Loompa color.

Abbott, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 15:35 (ten years ago) Permalink

ladies & gent, what do you think of 'olay regenerist uv defense regenerating lotion spf 15'

i wanted a sunscreen + moisturizer & stole that from my mom but my bottle is long empty

the only other one ive tried is cetaphil spf 15 & i thought the olay one felt much more soothing ( i have v dry skin)

my followup question is, does spf 15 actually do anything anyway?

deeznuts, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 15:43 (ten years ago) Permalink

in the amount that you get from an application of moisturizer, probably not.

lauren, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 15:46 (ten years ago) Permalink

so what is a good sunscreen to put on the face then? and should it go on before or after moisturizer?

deeznuts, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 15:48 (ten years ago) Permalink

i apply it after. neutrogena's for the face are good. you don't nec. need a super high spf, but you need to apply enough - about a teaspoon , i've heard - and reapply if you're going to be in the sun for a while.

lauren, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 15:51 (ten years ago) Permalink

I have the Oil of Olay 'daily defense' 30 spf moisturizer, and it does me right.

Abbott, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 15:59 (ten years ago) Permalink

i'm liking the olay "time delay" day and night creams, they have BHAs and seem to be moisturizing without breaking me out. it's SPF 15 which i figure is enough if i'm inside all day, but i just put the neutrogena dry touch stuff on today when i was cycling in, and i'm actually surprised at how un shiny i am.

i think maybe if you're a very shiny person (i am in the summer) one of the dry sunblocks on its own might be the ticket, when i put it on over moisturizer i'm pretty greasy quickly. obviously YMMV.

colette, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 16:00 (ten years ago) Permalink

that sounds perfect abbott! i thought they were all spf 15s. its not v expensive at all either.

what a great board!

deeznuts, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 16:04 (ten years ago) Permalink

the dry touch is pretty nice. it definitely has a matifying effect.

i'm on the fence about whether to buy the dr. brandt pores no more stuff. i like the sample that i got, but it's so expensive i don't know if i can justify it. it does really seem to minimize the pores. is there anything cheaper that works in the same way?

bell_labs, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 16:05 (ten years ago) Permalink

linds, was totally thinking abt all the pore questions of old thread and okay okay here's my discovery (via my mom, who has been visiting since friday):

i know i mention aveda often but i'm pretty discriminating abt their products, as a lot are too much for me anyway, BUT holy whoa, they have these salicylic acid toner pads that are as shockingly expensive as they are shockingly effective. i started using them friday and they caused an initial and very slight uh swelling of major pore areas (plus it was really hot & humid out) but now my skin is so calm and pores so clean & diminished and happy! it is kind of crazy.

the thing is that i can't use other salicylic acid things b/c they're lotions or whatever and just too heavy, but these aren't causing problems! i will check back in a week re: these but so far i am amazed. and yknow my skin will break out at anything. i haven't put any other medication or zit treatment or anything on my face either while using these. so yeah, neat.

rrrobyn, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 16:25 (ten years ago) Permalink

On Saturday I wore the neutrogena spf 70 and neutrogena glow sheer spf 30, which is probaby overkill.

Oh, and a hat.

tokyo rosemary, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 16:27 (ten years ago) Permalink

spf 70!!!!!!! damn

deeznuts, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 16:27 (ten years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

my seemingly bottomless pot of avon eye cream finally ran out. replaced it with boscia's enlivening amino eye treatment - yay! i've been wanting this stuff for a while.

lauren, Friday, 4 July 2008 20:47 (ten years ago) Permalink

I also bought spf 70 yesterday, prompted by my dermatologist.

bell_labs, Friday, 4 July 2008 21:56 (ten years ago) Permalink

yes so the neutrogena dry touch 55 is apparently completely useless against tropical sun and i became horribly burnt on my first full day in maui. after that, purchased coppertone spray 70 which was weird, and then found that the coppertone sport 50 actually works really well. however, i am peeling like crazy, and the skin right above my breasts and next to my pits is so incredibly burned it's scary looking. those two corners burned way more than anywhere else. the pain has gone away, but what is a good cream/treatment to reduce scarring/mottling?

tehresa, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 01:53 (ten years ago) Permalink

oddly, though, the ny sun feels like nothing to me now! i will still wear lots of sunscreen, though!

tehresa, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 01:54 (ten years ago) Permalink

Is this thread for facial scrub/cleanser/moisturiser? I have some awes knowledge that I want to impart.

-- Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 07:50 (Wednesday, 18 June 2008 07:50)

Such a tease... Tell all plz.

I'm looking for a moisturiser for the face that's good on mixed skin i.e. greasy in places, dry in others. It also has to let the skin breathe and if possible soothe after a shave.

For years I've been using straightforward aqueous cream but I'm not so sure it's good for my skin having tried something else this past while.

hyggeligt, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 10:58 (ten years ago) Permalink

T -- any of the soothing herbal combinations: aloe, comfrey, chamomile, calendula. Or Vitamin E. Keeping the skin/wound moist is the best way to reduce scarring, the vit E or aloe will do that.

Laurel, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 13:12 (ten years ago) Permalink

when i was in hawaii i got an awful 3rd degree burn (from hot oil, not the sun) but there were tons of aloe plants everywhere and so i just put that on it constantly. i have no scar from it (which is amazing, it was a huge burn).

bell_labs, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 14:01 (ten years ago) Permalink

guys i just made my first sephora order. now i know what youre all talking about with the samples you get. excited!

sunny successor, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 19:13 (ten years ago) Permalink

also found out there is a sephora right here in little rock. who knew?

sunny successor, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 19:13 (ten years ago) Permalink

I get little bumpy spots on my forehead, you can't really see them, but they still piss me off. I have very short hair, don't use gel, wash hair with Vosene and face with witch doctor face scrub every day... but they don't go away!

What to do?

Bodrick III, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 22:04 (ten years ago) Permalink

it may be from heat/sweating? try to stay dry. or you may be over-cleansing/scrubbing.

tehresa, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 00:13 (ten years ago) Permalink

sunny i didn't know you were in little rock! one of my good friends lives down there

Surmounter, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 00:14 (ten years ago) Permalink

So hydroquinone is supposed to be evil and carcinogenic right? I am trying to fade a couple discolored spots on my legs (leftover from ingrown hairs) and I'm wondering if this is a bad idea...

bell_labs, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 00:50 (ten years ago) Permalink

it may be from heat/sweating? try to stay dry. or you may be over-cleansing/scrubbing.

If you're using all that stuff regularly then yes, I think that could be your problem. I would avoid using anything abrasive on them.

hyggeligt, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 10:01 (ten years ago) Permalink

No no all he said was he uses a certain shampoo and a witch hazel toner, that's not much at all -- in fact, only one facial product!

Bodrick, impossible to say, really, but start trying things. Is your pillowcase clean? Do you touch your face during the day? Drink a few glasses of water a day? Maybe try giving up caffeine for two weeks and see if that makes a difference, etc etc etc. Think of it as an exciting experiment.

Laurel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 13:16 (ten years ago) Permalink

Or stop the witch hazel and try an exfoliant like the St Ives apricot scrub -- it's not fancy and some people don't like it, but it's not a bad start. (I don't want to give anyone sticker shock by recommending a $30 tub of something.)

Laurel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 13:18 (ten years ago) Permalink

A little bit of baking soda mixed with soap/cleanser does a nice job of gently exfoliating. That apricot stuff has really large granules and I heard that's not so good for skin, being so abrasive. Also bs is so cheap it's almost free.

iirc, Colette taught me this trick!

La Lechera, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 13:26 (ten years ago) Permalink

Is your friend as sweet as you, Surm?

sunny successor, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 14:06 (ten years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I love the St Ives for my face, but then I use corn meal on my body and that's even scratchier (I love scratchy). I think Julia told me about the baking soda! It's a Chicago thing, apparently. But the baking soda is too fine for me and I never feel smooth after using.

Laurel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 14:26 (ten years ago) Permalink

Ouch!

lauren, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 14:32 (ten years ago) Permalink

No no all he said was he uses a certain shampoo and a witch hazel toner, that's not much at all -- in fact, only one facial product!

Ah, I didn't really read it and thought Vosene was some kind of American cleanser that sounded very chemical!

St Ives apricot scrub -- it's not fancy and some people don't like it

Why not? (ah I see that this has been answered) I think I can get that here and if it's good for blackheads?

Actually what is good for blackheads and sensitive skin?

A little bit of baking soda mixed with soap/cleanser does a nice job of gently exfoliating.

Wouldn't it burn the face off you? Ah, I see not.

I am like Laurel, I prefer something that has a bit of 'bite' but sadly that wreaks havoc on my skin. There was a very good exfoliator a while ago that I stole from someone, I wonder if I can still find it and buy more.

hyggeligt, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 14:57 (ten years ago) Permalink

I with Laurel on this too. I like feel like im taking a few layers of skin off.

sunny successor, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 14:59 (ten years ago) Permalink

has anyone ever had a lactic peel? there is some spa offering them for $50 for the month of july which is half of what it usually costs, but i'm afraid my skin is too sensitive. it's supposed to be less intense than a glycolic peel though.

bell_labs, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 15:00 (ten years ago) Permalink

listen dudes, i like the scratchy and i like the feeling of taking off dead layers of skin, but liking it doesn't make it good for my skin. i only use baking soda on the face because it's sensitive. on the rest of me i would happily use a sandblaster, but i settle for some crappy scrubbing thing i got at marshalls.

let me add that i enjoy exfoliating so much that i bought the god-forsaken ped-egg, and it wasn't tuff enough for me! in fact, it sucked and didn't take off but the top layer of dead foot skin. not recommended!

La Lechera, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 15:18 (ten years ago) Permalink

some of my current skincare is running low so i finally ordered some stuff from The Ordinary -
- the glycolic acid toner
- virgin marula oil
- alpha arbutin stuff

looks like there are big delays in shipping thought, so it might be a few weeks before i get it

just1n3, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 00:46 (five months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

The buffet with copper peptides is goooooooood. get on that.

Britain's Sexiest Cow (jed_), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 00:32 (three months ago) Permalink

Oooh I’m about to place another order so I’ll add that!

I actually got my last order reasonably fast - faster than I expected. I haven’t used the glycolic acid yet (using up my regular AHA first) but I think the alpha arbutin has evened out my skin tone at least a little? Idk but it seems better most days.

Don’t have much of an opinion on the marula oil- I think I prefer rose hip seed oil instead.

I want to get a vit c serum this time.

just1n3, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 00:46 (three months ago) Permalink

i really like the ascorbyl tetraisopalmitate (lol) for vit c. although they brought out some new vit c's recently which i haven't tried and may well be better.

Britain's Sexiest Cow (jed_), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 00:51 (three months ago) Permalink

Yeah there’s a shit ton on there and I’m having trouble choosing which one

just1n3, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 01:01 (three months ago) Permalink

fwiw, i like the one i mentioned because it's an oil but it is super-dry, so light. even though it's an oil it doesn't feel the least bit oily or claggy.

Britain's Sexiest Cow (jed_), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 01:07 (three months ago) Permalink

it's more on the expensive end of what they do though. as is the copper buffet.

Britain's Sexiest Cow (jed_), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 01:09 (three months ago) Permalink

fwiw, someone other than brandon seems to have taken over their social media presence and i've noticed that people asking on insta get fast replies so if you're on insta then ask there. I'm not on it, i just lurk.

Britain's Sexiest Cow (jed_), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 01:15 (three months ago) Permalink

do any of you use julep? it’s a a spinoff from a nail salon in seattle that has a monthly box thing. the face cleanser stick is the best thing i’ve bought for that purpose in years, and their three step sheet/sleep mask makes my skin glow. and their lipsticks are wonderful.

i have a referral code if anyone wants.

maura, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 13:50 (three months ago) Permalink

julep dot com

also a dispensary around here sells weed face serum...

maura, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 13:50 (three months ago) Permalink

I got some Julep polishes and I loved their colors but the brushes were huge and fluffy and it was hard to apply neatly. Haven't tried their other prods.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 14:14 (three months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

I was going to do an Ordinary order (I see they left Sephora) and was looking at the copper buffet. Wow, that is a big jump ($41.90!) from the normal pricepoints. Is it worth it?

Yerac, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 15:43 (two months ago) Permalink

It's hard to tell, isn't it? I mean I can feel okay or feel repulsed by my reflection on consecutive days and I know that that's MY BRANE and nothing to do with skincare products.

However, I did go through a week or so of telling everyone who would care that they should splurge on this. But then i semi-spurged on the Hylamide Anti Age and I can't tell the difference between what the copper buffet was doing and what the hylamide AA is doing and the latter is currently selling for a drastically reduced price (prices vary depending on your territory).

What did you go for, Yerac?

Britain's Sexiest Cow (jed_), Monday, 13 August 2018 22:04 (two months ago) Permalink

fwiw, they are ceasing to sell the Hylamide range to third party sellers and are in the process of reducing the prices on that range to reflect that fact that around 40% of the sale price went to the 3rd party. The Hylamide AA went from £30 to £18 and will stay at around that price if I have that right.

Britain's Sexiest Cow (jed_), Monday, 13 August 2018 22:07 (two months ago) Permalink

I am in the US now. I still haven't made an Ordinary order yet. I got some Weleda Skin Food to try. Not sure how I feel about it yet since it's so humid here.

Yerac, Tuesday, 14 August 2018 00:24 (two months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Finally got around to ordering. The only thing that I reordered was the niacinamide/zinc ( i use this the most) and the moistuzizer in a big tube.. I also got:

Granactive Retinoid 2% in Squalane (for eye area))

Retinol 0.5% in Squalane (will use all over face)

Ascorbyl Glucoside Solution 12%

Yerac, Sunday, 16 September 2018 14:02 (one month ago) Permalink

omg I’m kind of in love with the 2% retinoid in squalane right now! I use it all over my face. I need to reorder a couple of things so maybe will try the retinol in squalane. I also use the squalane oil under daytime moisturizer when feeling like my skin is more dehydrated and/or when I put major sunblock on top.

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Sunday, 16 September 2018 19:01 (one month ago) Permalink

I use the 2% retinoid in squalane at night only and it seems I can use it almost every night and suffer no redness or swelling but it’s genuinely doing something to clarify my skin.

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Sunday, 16 September 2018 19:03 (one month ago) Permalink

I was reading up a lot on the retinols from The Ordinary. I guess the granactive retinoid isn't drying which is why a blog that I like the write-ups of the products said to consider it for around the eyes and the other one for the entire face.

Yerac, Sunday, 16 September 2018 19:04 (one month ago) Permalink

Ah interesting!
(Which blog?)

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Sunday, 16 September 2018 19:06 (one month ago) Permalink

I like the write up here: https://theskincareedit.com/2017/11/16/the-ordinary-retinoid

I also followed their bigger writeup on all other products.

Yerac, Sunday, 16 September 2018 19:14 (one month ago) Permalink

Oh yes that site! Thanks! :)

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Sunday, 16 September 2018 22:18 (one month ago) Permalink

Yeah, I like this a lot instead of the regular articles with all glowing reviews. I like how this breaks it down.

Yerac, Sunday, 16 September 2018 23:55 (one month ago) Permalink

I am new to skin-care. My wife got into the Korean beauty routine (way cool) and the trickle-down is that now I care about my skin. This is my list:

1) Bulldog cleanser (twice daily, cheap)
2) Kiehl's facial fuel 30 SPF (daily, kinda expensive)
3) Neutrogena Healthy Skin Anti-Wrinkle Retinol Night Cream (nightly)
4) Bliss Micromagic Microdermabrasion Treatment(weekly)
5) Proraso sandalwood shaving cream
6) Biore UV Aqua Sunscreen Japanese formulation (as needed)

1, 3, and 4 aren't anything special... they're just what I've got lying around the house. I'm looking for more, tho. I might replace 3 w/ The Ordinary .05 retinoid, although the CEO is embroiled in so much weirdness.

remy bean, Monday, 17 September 2018 00:13 (one month ago) Permalink

yeah that is so weird and is kinda turning me off, tbh. On the other hand their products have done wonders for me so i try not to think about it.

what age are you, remy? i thought you'd be a bit young to be using retinol but maybe i'm remembering that wrong. you could try an oil based cleanser, maybe? i think i read somewhere that you're supposed to use an oil cleanser if you use a lot of sunscreen. l'oreal extraordinary oil cleanser is a relatively cheap option here although i actually use atoderm shower oil on my face because i like it and the litre sized bottle makes it cheap af. i have psoriases and it's good for me. i don't have psoriases on my face or neck though, thankfully. the facial fuel is good although i use the kiehl's ultra facial moisturiser which also has spf option and the core ingredient of that one is squalane, which i like a lot. i guess it depends on yr skin type. the ultra facial is particularly good for dry skin.

I'm currently using 1. atoderm oil cleanser 2. ordinary amino acids and b5 (v.g.) (b5 is panthenol) 3. hylamide sub q facial serum (this is excellent) 4. ordinary euk antioxidant sometimes, maybe not as often as i should 5. a bit of squalane. I'm not using moisturiser much atm but i'll either use squalane or the ordinary nmf or the ultra facial. 6. twice a week before bed the ordinary alpha lipoic acid, which i can't recommend highly enough followed by kiehl's midnight recovery oil if i can be bothered.

according to the link yerac posted earlier the ordianry nmf (natural moisturising factors) is:

A very unique amino acid-based moisturizer.
Amino acids not only hydrate the skin, but also perform many of the same functions as retinoids, such as improving fine lines and wrinkles and treating sun damage.
One of the few silicone-free moisturizers on the market.

https://theskincareedit.com/2017/08/04/the-ordinary

Heavy Messages (jed_), Monday, 17 September 2018 01:51 (one month ago) Permalink

fwiw, if you have been using the ordinary buffet then the hylamide sub q serum is a big step up from that, imo, and is only slightly more expensive.

https://hylamide.com/product/subq-anti-age-30ml

Heavy Messages (jed_), Monday, 17 September 2018 02:02 (one month ago) Permalink

i also think it's better than the buffer with copper peps.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Monday, 17 September 2018 02:09 (one month ago) Permalink

I also am very pro kiehls ultra facial moisturizer. I slathered it on for over a decade until I switched to First Aid Beauty. Both are good. I want to try the Biore water essence sunblock for the face that is seeminlgy only available in japan (but also amazon). I heard it is top notch xs100.

Yerac, Monday, 17 September 2018 02:32 (one month ago) Permalink

Xp Remy, unless you have really oily skin I’d suggest trying to limit face washing to just once a day, at night, so you don’t strip your skin. A plain water wash is fine in the morning.

I had a sample of the kiehls midnight recovery oil but I didn’t notice it doing anything for me.

I’m still trying to find an affordable sunscreen that
- doesn’t hurt my eyes
- doesn’t get into my mouth and taste gross
- doesn’t have a white cast
- doesn’t leave my face greasy-feeling all day

I liked the CosRX one but it’s a bit pricey for such a small tube, considering how much you need to use every day. I’ve had an aveeno one and a sunbum one in rotation but they’re not checking everything on my list.

just1n3, Monday, 17 September 2018 02:35 (one month ago) Permalink

I made the mistake of wearing the ordinary nmf this past summer, like, during the high humidity in France. Holy crap did I really notice all the moisture that it drew to my skin. I was having to blot constantly.

This is the facial cleanser I like to use but it's not really relevant for you guys unless you wear makeup. When I travel, I get lazy and end up using bar soap a lot for my face. I really notice the difference after a couple of days. I typically think my skin is fine (thank you asian genes) but yeah, use cleanser for your skin type and moisturize like crazy when you can. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01D2M4I46/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1

Yerac, Monday, 17 September 2018 02:39 (one month ago) Permalink

just1n3, I'll report back about the face sunscreen. I actually don't wear it often (I know I should) because it's too heavy and Iprefer to dodge into the shadows while I walk. But I feel like sunscreen marketed towards korean and japanese clients is the way to go.

Yerac, Monday, 17 September 2018 02:43 (one month ago) Permalink

Sorry to post yet another Sali Hughes link, but if you haven’t tried any of the sunscreens in her recent column they’ll be worth a shot because she’s rarely wrong.
https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2018/jun/09/sali-hughes-best-non-greasy-sunscreen

Madchen, Monday, 17 September 2018 06:05 (one month ago) Permalink

Oh she mentions the biore watery essence too! I think i saw mentioned somewhere else that it is more gel like?

Yerac, Monday, 17 September 2018 11:25 (one month ago) Permalink

I had good success with the Neutrogena water gel moisturizer over the past year, so bought the SPF 30 water gel sunscreen when I was in Phoenix a few weeks ago. I normally use mineral sunscreen (Coola and TiZo 2 typically though in a pinch I slap some Vanicream on that I normally only use non-face), and this one is chemical, but I really want it to not break me out because the texture is something I can stand to have on my face all day every day. And that is just not the case with the mineral ones.

Jaq, Monday, 17 September 2018 16:06 (one month ago) Permalink

Y'll are making me wonder if my Mary Kay cleanser/washcloth/Neutrogena regimen is insufficient for maintaining radiance through the decades.

Jaq, can you tell us if that Vanicream doesn't break you out? I'm interested.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Monday, 17 September 2018 17:06 (one month ago) Permalink

Sorry I mis-read--the Neutrogena water gel SPF 30--lmk how it goes?

Wish I could edit my own post--I don't use Neutrogena, I use Aveeno body lotion on my face. So far it's the only thing I can find that doesn't cause me pain/rash.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Monday, 17 September 2018 17:09 (one month ago) Permalink

in orbit, have you tried first aid beauty? F has bad eczema that he needs steroid creams for, and he actually like first aid... If I end up seeing you in the next month I will bring a small sample.

Yerac, Monday, 17 September 2018 17:41 (one month ago) Permalink

Will let you know, in orbit - something is currently breaking me out, but I think it's overuse of alpha/beta chemical peels. I'm letting things calm down before I start up with the water gel sunscreen again.

Jaq, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 14:57 (one month ago) Permalink

I expected that deciem order to take forever to get here, but it's already here. So quick. Maybe they got their shit together.

Yerac, Thursday, 20 September 2018 00:43 (one month ago) Permalink

yes, my most recent order came in two days and i got texts telling me it would be there tomorrow then another text with an hour delivery window on the morning of the day itself.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Thursday, 20 September 2018 01:00 (one month ago) Permalink

fyi sunday riley is 15% off at nordstrom and it’s triple points time

maura, Thursday, 20 September 2018 02:34 (one month ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

btw, the Neutrogena water gel spf 30 sunscreen has totally broken me out so it's back to Coola and TiZO2

Jaq, Friday, 12 October 2018 00:01 (one week ago) Permalink

Took all of your advice upthread. I only wash my face once daily. My skin looks ... noticeably younger, which is to say that I look my actual age, as opposed to late 40s.

In other news, Mrs. Bean won a sweepstakes she didn't know she'd entered. The prize was $400 of Korean skin products. We've got enough snail mucin to coat our entire bodies, should the need arise. And facemasks...

Also, Jaq, I had the same experience w. the Neutrogena this summer. My chin got extra angry with me. I switched to the Kiehl's Ultra Facial Moisturizer SPF 30, which seems to've done the trick. Coincidentally, I'm broke.

remy bean, Friday, 12 October 2018 01:16 (one week ago) Permalink

https://globalnews.ca/news/4541287/deciem-estee-lauder-brandon-truaxe/

TORONTO – The founder of Deciem, the self-professed “Abnormal Beauty Company,” saw his reign at the Toronto cosmetics brand come to an unusual end on Friday.


Brandon Truaxe was ousted from his role as the company’s chief executive and board member on an interim basis after a judge approved an Ontario court application from Estee Lauder Companies Inc., which holds a one-third stake in Deciem.

In its application, Estee Lauder said its fight to oust Truaxe was fuelled by hundreds of “outrageous, disturbing, defamatory, and/or offensive posts” he made on Deciem’s social media pages over the last year that “harmed” the business and its reputation.

“He has essentially lit the company on fire,” he told a judge. “Maybe he was once a diabolical marketing genius building the brand…but he’s gone too far.”

FRE SHA VAC ADO (jed_), Friday, 12 October 2018 18:29 (one week ago) Permalink

Whoaho! I haven’t been paying attention to him (bc i can’t deal with twitter?) but tbh all I want is my retinoid in squalane solution, ha. Now I’m worried if Estée takes over then the company might not technically be based in Canada? and I won’t have access to products without paying huge duties, shipping, etc. The woes of trying to online shop as a Canadian are real!!

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Friday, 12 October 2018 23:46 (one week ago) Permalink

Washing your face once a day is a skin game changer, yes!
Rinsing your face as soon as you wake up and not lingering over breakfast and coffee and whatever is also a skin game changer! Not sure why it took me this long to figure that one out...

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Friday, 12 October 2018 23:47 (one week ago) Permalink

it will still be based in canada afaict. it's all very sad, really. the guy needs help asap. the "defmatory" instagram posts have gone now (i don't know why i put defamatory in "" because they were clearly so) and the final video insta-post seemed to suggest that he was in the grip of some kind of alt-right delusion.

FRE SHA VAC ADO (jed_), Saturday, 13 October 2018 00:16 (one week ago) Permalink

have to say that deciem/ordinary/hylamide products have changed my skin very notably so i'm strangely invested in him and in his recovery. it seems like a performative stunt (or series of) that got out of hand or took on its own life. it seemed like a joke but it became a very bad and dark joke.

FRE SHA VAC ADO (jed_), Saturday, 13 October 2018 00:38 (one week ago) Permalink

My order arrived! Perhaps things are clicking along OK after all?

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Saturday, 13 October 2018 14:00 (one week ago) Permalink

I know this is hugely First World Problems but I got a birch box subscription for my birthday and due to having two kids and a load of other stress I haven't had a chance to try out hardly any of it! I just want to put on a sheet mask and listen to the Mitski album which I also got months ago but can't listen to with child around because it has a swear in it.

anyone getting a beauty advent calendar?

kinder, Saturday, 13 October 2018 18:08 (one week ago) Permalink


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