Ello sounds interesting. Is it?
― Allen (etaeoe), Wednesday, 24 September 2014 17:49 (nine years ago) link
my friend lost their ello password can you help me retrieve it
― 💻 👀 (am0n), Wednesday, 24 September 2014 17:56 (nine years ago) link
i would like to submit a resume to work at ello, please send me contact address thx
― ╲╱\/╲/\╱╲╱\/\ (gr8080), Wednesday, 24 September 2014 18:09 (nine years ago) link
i have 10yrs experience in startup development and net sourceing
― ╲╱\/╲/\╱╲╱\/\ (gr8080), Wednesday, 24 September 2014 18:10 (nine years ago) link
HELLO I AM AN ELLO INVESTOR AND HAVE A LIMITED NUMBER OF INVITES TO DISTRIBUTE TO TOP #CONTENT CREATORS IN ORDER TO VERIFY YOUR STATUS AS A SOCIAL MEDIA MAVEN PLZ LINK IN YOUR REPLY TO YOUR FAVSTAR AND INSTAGRAM ACCOUNTS AND ANSWER TWO OUT OF THE THREE QUESTIONS BELOW WITH A SHORT ESSAY
1. WHAT IS VIRALITY AND WHY IS IS DESIRABLE, HAVE YOU EVER "GONE VIRAL"
2. WHO IS THE BEST FOUNDER IN THE SOCAIL WEB TODAY AND WHY
3. WHAT IS A TARGETED LOCAL-GLOBAL SOCAIL MEDIA FLASHMOB
I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU ON ELLO.CO!
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 18:43 (nine years ago) link
ellol
― mattresslessness, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 18:44 (nine years ago) link
sold my bitcoin for ello gold status <guyfawkesface>
― bnw, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 18:51 (nine years ago) link
plzzzzzzz
― example (crüt), Wednesday, 24 September 2014 18:53 (nine years ago) link
http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs6/i/2005/081/9/9/Ello_Poppet___Sketch_by_kaykaykit.jpg
― oppet, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 18:53 (nine years ago) link
ello guvnor
― cajunsunday, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 22:52 (nine years ago) link
I would like request an invite to the invite only ello social media social networking twitter facebook replacement website.
― DISMISSED AS CHANCE (NotEnough), Thursday, 25 September 2014 16:26 (nine years ago) link
Go on then.
might be worthwhile
please?
― Mark G, Thursday, 25 September 2014 19:45 (nine years ago) link
hating one social network doesn't make me want to join another one
― goole, Thursday, 25 September 2014 19:50 (nine years ago) link
Can I get a...?
WUT WUT
PWEETY PWEASE
― ∞, Thursday, 25 September 2014 21:26 (nine years ago) link
its comically poorly implemented, and theyre all braggin beautiful, simple... ad freee
― lag∞n, Thursday, 25 September 2014 21:31 (nine years ago) link
stfu gosh
i have no idea wtf i'm doing when i try to use ello. shit is crazy
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 25 September 2014 21:37 (nine years ago) link
http://www.americansweets.co.uk/ekmps/shops/statesidecandy/images/american-mello-yello-soda-single-355ml-can-dated-08-09-14-11593-p.jpg
― ciderpress, Thursday, 25 September 2014 21:41 (nine years ago) link
Ya shit's cray. Feels like im back in bulletin board world. STILL IM A PIONEER THOUGH.
― definite classic, predicting a solid 8/10 from the p-fork boys (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 25 September 2014 22:35 (nine years ago) link
at one point my brain just freaked out and i clicked ello facebook twitter tumblr and then ilx all within about 10 seconds of each other, not even waiting to let the page load
i need to find a new hobby
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 25 September 2014 22:39 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ws6-hOMNv5I
― 龜, Thursday, 25 September 2014 22:39 (nine years ago) link
something must have changed! somewhere!!
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 25 September 2014 22:40 (nine years ago) link
ello twitty
― example (crüt), Thursday, 25 September 2014 22:40 (nine years ago) link
i want this
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 25 September 2014 22:40 (nine years ago) link
ello drama! user @waxpancake says
Building something like Ello costs money. They have a team of at least seven people, and have worked on it for months. That doesn't come cheap.The About section makes it seem like Ello was built independently, a group of artists making something for themselves, presumably funded by volunteer effort and maybe a seed investment from Ello president and CEO Paul Budnitz, who also founded Kidrobot and Budnitz Bicycles.But a little digging shows a much more predictable source: they took a $435,000 round of seed funding in January from FreshTracks Capital, a Vermont-based VC firm that announced the deal in March.Why is this problematic?The Ello founders are positioning it as an alternative to other social networks — they won't sell your data or show you ads. "You are not the product."If they were independently-funded and run as some sort of co-op, bootstrapped until profitable, maybe that's plausible. Hard, but possible.But VCs don't give money out of goodwill, and taking VC funding — even seed funding — creates outside pressures that shape the inevitable direction of a company.Before they opened their doors, Ello became hooked on an unsustainable funding model — taking cash from VCs — and will almost certainly take a much larger Series A round once that $435,000 dries up. (Which, at their current burn rate, should be in a couple months.)And they'll have no trouble getting it. There's a lot of money out there right now, and it will be extremely tempting to take it, especially if refusing it would mean closure or layoffs.The problem, of course, is that VCs aren't like Kickstarter backers, or even like angel investors. Kickstarter or Patreon backers just want the thing being made. Angel investors may have other reasons to invest beyond equity: fame, insider access, or maybe just the joy of helping something exist.VCs may invest in things they think are interesting or want to exist, but they primarily invest money in startups to get a return on their investment, on behalf of their limited partners. That return usually takes the form of an exit: an acquisition or an IPO.Unless they have a very unique relationship with their investors, Ello will inevitably be pushed towards profitability and an exit, even if it compromises their current values. Sometimes, this push comes subtly in the form of advice and questions in emails, phone calls, and chats over coffee. Sometimes, as more direct pressure from the board. (FreshTracks' Managing Director sits on their board.) Or, if things go bad, by replacing the founders.The Ello team knows that how a startup is funded shapes how it behaves. They spend a good chunk of their About pages talking about how they're not going to make money (not ads or selling your data), and a little bit about how they hope to (paid premium features). I hope they're right — it'd be great to have more startups that aren't reliant on ads.But they completely fail to disclose how Ello is being funded now, which matters just as much, if not more, as any future revenue plans.I love seeing people build new stuff. More people trying to build crazy experimental communities on the Internet is a very good thing. And nothing's more audacious than trying to build a new social network.Social networks become the glue that connect people together — the foundation for friendships, relationships, and new works of creative expression.Building a social network is like opening the doors to a huge party and inviting everyone in. Without a way to get your stuff out, shutting down a social network is like locking the door and burning the place down.At the moment, Ello is a free, closed-source social network, with no export tools or an API, fueled by venture capital and a loose plan for paid premium features. I think it's fair to be skeptical.Like everyone else here, I hope Ello can stick to their principles, resist outside pressure, fight market forces, and find a unique and sustainable niche.Let's hope their investors feel the same way.
The About section makes it seem like Ello was built independently, a group of artists making something for themselves, presumably funded by volunteer effort and maybe a seed investment from Ello president and CEO Paul Budnitz, who also founded Kidrobot and Budnitz Bicycles.
But a little digging shows a much more predictable source: they took a $435,000 round of seed funding in January from FreshTracks Capital, a Vermont-based VC firm that announced the deal in March.
Why is this problematic?
The Ello founders are positioning it as an alternative to other social networks — they won't sell your data or show you ads. "You are not the product."
If they were independently-funded and run as some sort of co-op, bootstrapped until profitable, maybe that's plausible. Hard, but possible.
But VCs don't give money out of goodwill, and taking VC funding — even seed funding — creates outside pressures that shape the inevitable direction of a company.
Before they opened their doors, Ello became hooked on an unsustainable funding model — taking cash from VCs — and will almost certainly take a much larger Series A round once that $435,000 dries up. (Which, at their current burn rate, should be in a couple months.)
And they'll have no trouble getting it. There's a lot of money out there right now, and it will be extremely tempting to take it, especially if refusing it would mean closure or layoffs.
The problem, of course, is that VCs aren't like Kickstarter backers, or even like angel investors. Kickstarter or Patreon backers just want the thing being made. Angel investors may have other reasons to invest beyond equity: fame, insider access, or maybe just the joy of helping something exist.
VCs may invest in things they think are interesting or want to exist, but they primarily invest money in startups to get a return on their investment, on behalf of their limited partners. That return usually takes the form of an exit: an acquisition or an IPO.
Unless they have a very unique relationship with their investors, Ello will inevitably be pushed towards profitability and an exit, even if it compromises their current values. Sometimes, this push comes subtly in the form of advice and questions in emails, phone calls, and chats over coffee. Sometimes, as more direct pressure from the board. (FreshTracks' Managing Director sits on their board.) Or, if things go bad, by replacing the founders.
The Ello team knows that how a startup is funded shapes how it behaves. They spend a good chunk of their About pages talking about how they're not going to make money (not ads or selling your data), and a little bit about how they hope to (paid premium features). I hope they're right — it'd be great to have more startups that aren't reliant on ads.
But they completely fail to disclose how Ello is being funded now, which matters just as much, if not more, as any future revenue plans.
I love seeing people build new stuff. More people trying to build crazy experimental communities on the Internet is a very good thing. And nothing's more audacious than trying to build a new social network.
Social networks become the glue that connect people together — the foundation for friendships, relationships, and new works of creative expression.
Building a social network is like opening the doors to a huge party and inviting everyone in. Without a way to get your stuff out, shutting down a social network is like locking the door and burning the place down.
At the moment, Ello is a free, closed-source social network, with no export tools or an API, fueled by venture capital and a loose plan for paid premium features. I think it's fair to be skeptical.
Like everyone else here, I hope Ello can stick to their principles, resist outside pressure, fight market forces, and find a unique and sustainable niche.
Let's hope their investors feel the same way.
to the tune of 16.5K ello views (ellos?). but THEN ello user and founder @todd, in the comments, says
There's no secret.Ello is privately funded, and a very large majority of Ello is owned by its 7 founders. We control the company. There's no pressure for us to do anything we don't want to do :v:
Ello is privately funded, and a very large majority of Ello is owned by its 7 founders. We control the company. There's no pressure for us to do anything we don't want to do :v:
that's an emoji peace sign in the end, i repeat emoji peace sign
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 25 September 2014 23:07 (nine years ago) link
boastfully inline i hope
― mattresslessness, Thursday, 25 September 2014 23:09 (nine years ago) link
@zachscott btw
i guess i should have picked a better game. you don't get chances like this every day
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 25 September 2014 23:10 (nine years ago) link
should have picked a better username, i mean.
though the feeling is similar to when you were a little kid and really wanted a videogame but your birthday was 7 months away, so you wait and wait and finally it's the anniversary of the date of your birth and you finally get to play it. but the game kinda sucks and you later that night you finally allow yourself to think "I guess i should have a better game."
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 25 September 2014 23:15 (nine years ago) link
oh, nevermind. :v:
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 25 September 2014 23:16 (nine years ago) link
There's no secret.Ello is privately funded, and a very large majority of Ello is owned by its 7 founders. We control the company. There's no pressure for us to do anything we don't want to do :v:that's an emoji peace sign in the end, i repeat emoji peace sign― Karl Malone, Thursday, September 25, 2014 7:07 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark
― Karl Malone, Thursday, September 25, 2014 7:07 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark
Just wanna point out that "privately funded" and "funded by VCs" means the same thing
― 龜, Thursday, 25 September 2014 23:19 (nine years ago) link
Also you can take money from VCs and not give up majority control of your company
That's how VC funding works
And what does the 'large' in 'large majority' mean anyway
― 龜, Thursday, 25 September 2014 23:21 (nine years ago) link
large as in 'i bet that car is 30 large'
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 25 September 2014 23:26 (nine years ago) link
only way that pos site took 7 people months to build is if its a side project or if they suck shit
― lag∞n, Friday, 26 September 2014 00:18 (nine years ago) link
who knew there was vc in vermont tho lol
― lag∞n, Friday, 26 September 2014 00:19 (nine years ago) link
― 龜, Thursday, September 25, 2014 7:21 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
Actually reading a little on this I think it can go either way
Still the fact that the Magnificent 7 still own a 'large majority' means jack shit
― 龜, Friday, 26 September 2014 00:30 (nine years ago) link
nick bilton's "hatching twitter" book had some interesting stuff about investors in it
― markers, Friday, 26 September 2014 00:46 (nine years ago) link
Building something like Ello costs money. They have a team of at least seven people, and have worked on it for months.
That sounds like some amateur hour bullcrap.
― Gumbercules? I love that guy! (Trayce), Friday, 26 September 2014 04:20 (nine years ago) link
someone hook me up allen (at) goodman.io
― Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 26 September 2014 05:08 (nine years ago) link
dun
― lag∞n, Friday, 26 September 2014 05:14 (nine years ago) link
this changes everything
― Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 26 September 2014 05:21 (nine years ago) link
all this ello talk has prompted me to remember:
fyi if u dont stop using the phrase "er indoors" i will fly to ur indoors and kill er, and u
― 8====D ------ ㋡ (max), Friday, January 16, 2009 8:02 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― estela, Friday, 26 September 2014 05:24 (nine years ago) link
Ha.
― Gumbercules? I love that guy! (Trayce), Friday, 26 September 2014 05:43 (nine years ago) link
Basically the first day ello started showing up in my newsfeed it was all "NEW SOCIAL NETWORKING SITE WILL DELIVER US REDEMPTION!" and then the second day it was all "THINKPIECE SHOWS HOW NEW SOCIAL NETWORKING SITE WILL ACTUALLY FAIL TO DELIVER US REDEMPTION!"
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Friday, 26 September 2014 05:48 (nine years ago) link
I guess we're not getting one here
― Mark G, Friday, 26 September 2014 06:28 (nine years ago) link
find me on ello my name on ello is @nedraggett
― ╲╱\/╲/\╱╲╱\/\ (gr8080), Friday, 26 September 2014 14:31 (nine years ago) link
me https://ello.co/lebronjames
― lag∞n, Friday, 26 September 2014 14:52 (nine years ago) link
someone hook me up pls: justine at chancepress dot com
― just1n3, Friday, 26 September 2014 17:07 (nine years ago) link
invite sent.
― example (crüt), Friday, 26 September 2014 17:08 (nine years ago) link
this just looks like tumblr
― iatee, Friday, 26 September 2014 17:10 (nine years ago) link
tumblr is such a superior design, this shit is a mess man
― lag∞n, Friday, 26 September 2014 17:11 (nine years ago) link
yea i don't think i'm gonna bother with this
― marcos, Friday, 26 September 2014 18:29 (nine years ago) link
i don't have the energy to maintain yet another profile
― marcos, Friday, 26 September 2014 18:30 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hBC7ovAn6Y
― ╲╱\/╲/\╱╲╱\/\ (gr8080), Friday, 26 September 2014 18:47 (nine years ago) link
Former WWE superstar Maven Huffman is on ello! @mavenhuffman
― mattresslessness, Saturday, 27 September 2014 04:53 (nine years ago) link
hey
― out here like a flopson (tpp), Sunday, 28 September 2014 08:32 (nine years ago) link
any left?
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Sunday, 28 September 2014 09:53 (nine years ago) link
himcan i have an invite plzzz goproFU95✧✧✧@g✧✧.d✧ thx
― fartypants94 (anky), Sunday, 28 September 2014 10:29 (nine years ago) link
its goproFU95✧✧✧@g✧✧.d✧
― fartypants94 (anky), Sunday, 28 September 2014 10:31 (nine years ago) link
You gotta separate out each part of your email
― just1n3, Sunday, 28 September 2014 14:17 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jOk8dk-qaU
― markers, Sunday, 28 September 2014 14:47 (nine years ago) link
@mwwhitesf
― Quis ut Deus (Michael White), Sunday, 28 September 2014 15:36 (nine years ago) link
lol yeah
http://i.imgur.com/SnARu9u.png
― lag∞n, Sunday, 28 September 2014 18:13 (nine years ago) link
Does it have harshtags?
― StanM, Sunday, 28 September 2014 19:39 (nine years ago) link
Humbly requesting
― calstars, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 11:45 (nine years ago) link
seems the well has dried up
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 12:19 (nine years ago) link
Do you want one
― 龜, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 12:25 (nine years ago) link
i'm on there - /tracerhand
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 12:37 (nine years ago) link
Marcello Tahitoe better known by the name ello (born in Jakarta , February 20 1983 , age 31 years) is a singer Indonesia and Christian. Singing talent passed down from his parents who had been known as an artist in his time. He was the son of a musician and song writer bloody Maluku Minggoes Tahitoe and senior bloody Batak pop singer who is very popular in the 1980s Diana Nasution . Ello new music album issued no more than three albums.
― ╲╱\/╲/\╱╲╱\/\ (gr8080), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 12:39 (nine years ago) link
xxp - yes pls!
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 13:03 (nine years ago) link
Well it's not like I can just invite your ilx name
― 龜, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 13:04 (nine years ago) link
u say ello we say hell no
― ╲╱\/╲/\╱╲╱\/\ (gr8080), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 13:50 (nine years ago) link
hellooo me please
s.d.gonzales13 - at the g mails
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 14:18 (nine years ago) link
baaderonixx at the gee mails
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 15:02 (nine years ago) link
thx!! much appreciated. what do I do now?
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 15:41 (nine years ago) link
Solitary posts that summarize ello
― 龜, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 15:44 (nine years ago) link
where am I? is this Google+?
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 15:49 (nine years ago) link
um u guys are still on ello?
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 16:16 (nine years ago) link
does anyone have nnngh invites?
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 16:17 (nine years ago) link
i might go back to wens
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 16:17 (nine years ago) link
nnngh is an all sonic, non-verbal social media site. It has no graphical interface.
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 16:19 (nine years ago) link
An invite to baudelairex at the gmail thing please, anyone?
― definite classic, predicting a solid 8/10 from the p-fork boys (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 19:49 (nine years ago) link
Hi!Just a quick note if you’re on the Ello waiting list.
As you may have heard, interest in Ello has grown very fast. We're so grateful for so much love and interest in Ello.
If too many people join at once, the Ello servers will melt down.
We have an amazing technical crew, and we’re inviting people as fast as we can.
Please be patient, and don’t worry. You’ll receive an Ello invite as soon as possible.
Much love,
Ello
PS: If you’re already using Ello and getting this note, you can unsubscribe using the links below.
ello.co
email settings
unsubscribeEllo, 7 Maple St #111, Burlington, VT 05401
― ╲╱\/╲/\╱╲╱\/\ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 October 2014 22:50 (nine years ago) link
^^ I got that today. I cried.
― definite classic, predicting a solid 8/10 from the p-fork boys (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 2 October 2014 22:51 (nine years ago) link
I got an invite from "@rolandthesoldier", who doesn't exist, and is named after a Borderlands character. Hmm.
― Nhex, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 05:24 (nine years ago) link
So this is basically me on there now.
http://i.imgur.com/27tBYZ4.gif
― pplains, Thursday, 13 November 2014 14:29 (nine years ago) link
ElloNSFW Month on Ello.
Following Google’s decision to ban NSFW content from Blogger (followed by an awkward reversal), we decided to celebrate freedom of speech on Ello by naming March NSWF Month.
You can’t ban some content without seriously impacting freedom of speech for everyone.
The last people we want to dictate what we can't say on the Internet are the advertisers that control big ad-based social networks. Ello doesn’t believe in censorship, and because Ello is ad-free, we will always be a dependable haven for free speech.
Help us celebrate NSFW Month on Ello by posting and discussing ideas about free speech, censorship, and why it's important that Internet remain open and free.
Much Love,Ello
PS. Some people love adult content. Other's don't. Ello is all about respecting each others' point of view. You can always turn NSFW content on or off on your Ello settings page.
Read about Ello’s rules and NSFW policy here.Visit the Ello x Threadless Store.ello.coIf you don't want to receive emails from Ello anymore,please unsubscribe here.Ello, 688 Pine, Burlington, VT 05401
― gr8080, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 02:32 (nine years ago) link
thirst month on ello
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 02:42 (nine years ago) link
desperation month on ello
― walid foster dulles (man alive), Tuesday, 3 March 2015 04:37 (nine years ago) link
Better DesignNo AdsPorn!!!
― walid foster dulles (man alive), Tuesday, 3 March 2015 04:39 (nine years ago) link
guh, meant to not s/t the last one
too late, no more porn
― hammer smashed nagls (mattresslessness), Tuesday, 3 March 2015 04:54 (nine years ago) link
can't believe this is still around
― marcos, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 16:31 (nine years ago) link
― cajunsunday, Wednesday, September 24, 2014 6:52 PM (5 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― future glown (crüt), Tuesday, 3 March 2015 16:33 (nine years ago) link
http://www.ello.com/
― walid foster dulles (man alive), Tuesday, 3 March 2015 16:35 (nine years ago) link
even what they currently have on their main page is terrible - awkward, herky-jerky movement, gives me a headache to look at as I move the mouse around:https://ello.co/
― walid foster dulles (man alive), Tuesday, 3 March 2015 16:37 (nine years ago) link
Anyone else need an invite code?
― pplains, Monday, 21 August 2023 16:04 (one year ago) link