lame stuff for elisabeth & andrew

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http://newflux.blogspot.com/ - mp3s
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tom ewing on "hey ya" :

OUTKAST - "Hey Ya"

I'm guessing you might have heard "Hey Ya" so I'll skip the introductions. What "Hey Ya" does is re-introduce funk to nerdiness, to spazziness; and in particular to a specific kind of stiff-necked, clever, uptight, indie, white nerdiness. This is part of why some people adore it; other people loathe it; and is surely why the Internet got onto it so quick too. The initial choppy strum and nasal vox are pure Frank Black; the acoustic and trombone (or synth-bone) mesh is They Might Be Giants; the stuttery jerky vocal tics ("I- I- I'm - just being honest"; "What makes - what makes - what makes") are David Byrne; the whole thing has reminded at least some people of the Flaming Lips (!), though to be fair in that case it's the best Flaming Lips song by a light year. And the video gives you a clue, too - Andre's in there playing the loverman-in-beret, but he's playing the jumper-wearing preppy guy, too: Outkast reimagined as Brit Invasion pop-show squares.

That's why "Hey Ya!" is 'innovative' I suppose; also why it's a 'novelty' (there is no point in separating these terms). But the other part of its success is that even with these nerd-genes it still makes me dance - that trombone may be goofy as fuck but it's also a delight as sound and as groove. It's a sign of the track's effectiveness as a party tune that it's one of those songs I refuse to get any emotional kick from - I just tune out the lyrics, except as catchphrases.

I can see why people hate it. There's a degree of smarm in the delivery, dramatically boosted if you sit through the whole Love Below album: it took seeing the video, bright and snappy amidst hours of dreary Polish hip-hop, to make me like it again. I'm also sympathetic to the idea that if "Hey Ya" is the start of something then it's the start of something lame: I'm no more looking forward to everybody doing a wacky guitar track than I am to checking out the Darkness clone bands. But that doesn't stop me liking The Darkness and it shouldn't stop me liking "Hey Ya". Besides, my hunch is this single is a one-off, a freak - it's not hard to imagine people being able to rip it off, but it's difficult to guess who would, lacking Dre's career trajectory. That's the main reason I don't buy it as the most important single of the year; my ears can confirm it's not the best either.

Tom Ewing

etc, Sunday, 28 December 2003 08:24 (twenty-two years ago)

If Poland's hip-hop is as bad as its World Idol contestant, i FEAR for Tom Ewing!

petra jane (petra jane), Sunday, 28 December 2003 08:54 (twenty-two years ago)

hey PETRA i'm trying to FRIENDSTA u (tho the system is being slow & buggy).

etc, Sunday, 28 December 2003 09:04 (twenty-two years ago)

i added you, yo. you sent me THREE invites!

petra jane (petra jane), Sunday, 28 December 2003 09:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Holger Czukay was born in Poland.

Schwingung (Damian), Sunday, 28 December 2003 11:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah!

Damo Suzuki (Damian), Sunday, 28 December 2003 11:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Thanks S! I listen to old music tho, funk's never been COOL cool aside from James Brown who's kinda too preFUNK to be FUNK, y'know? Sly and George were always kinda GOOFY, aside from Sly's "Riot" obv tho even that has joke tracks, anyway no this isn't the single of the YEAR it's the single of the fucking DECADE or something! HA! Noting similarities between the track in question and others you've heard isn't really EVIDENCE, is it? Also he leaves out the 2-3 soul chants (those are FAIRLY "black") and pays a great deal of attention to a trombone I don't even remember.

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Sunday, 28 December 2003 12:20 (twenty-two years ago)

It's nice and thoughtprovoking tho, obv

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Sunday, 28 December 2003 12:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Tho I don't actually LIKE thinking about music too much unless it just comes to me and I can't help it

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Sunday, 28 December 2003 12:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Isn't the start of anything the start of something lame?

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Sunday, 28 December 2003 12:33 (twenty-two years ago)

The Neptunes are pretty goofy/funky, too.

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Sunday, 28 December 2003 12:34 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't mean to sound sarcastic or anything btw

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Sunday, 28 December 2003 12:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Like yeah chart funk's been pretty ungeeky for ages (thanks Dr Dre etc, really!), but I doubt that's where Andre 3000's coming from. That IS where Tom's coming from I suppose tho, so who cares, etc.

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Sunday, 28 December 2003 13:04 (twenty-two years ago)

god ilm is so reactionary

The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Thursday, 1 January 2004 07:01 (twenty-two years ago)

haha andrew your posts would sound totally great with a backbeat!

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 1 January 2004 07:30 (twenty-two years ago)

well your first post anyway, where you're shouting every fifth word for some reason

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 1 January 2004 07:35 (twenty-two years ago)

but that review is from nylpm, not ilm, isn't it?

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 1 January 2004 07:37 (twenty-two years ago)

i don't know, i don't read either.

The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Thursday, 1 January 2004 07:39 (twenty-two years ago)


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