Recording Headphones

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My last pair of decent, closed-backed recording headphones were nicked last year, and I never bothered replacing them.

However, I've been doing more and more recording with the Shimuras, and it's become really painfully obvious, especially on the A Capella vocal harmony stuff, that I'm getting a lot of horrible leakage from recording with walkman type headphones.

Can anyone reccomend me some decent closed-back recording headphones in the cheap to medium range (I'm thinking £20 to £50 tops) that will minimise leakage on vocal recordings?

Disciplining And Controlling My Mind (kate), Monday, 16 January 2006 15:11 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

i use a pair of technics rp-f200's £19.95 at argos. perfectly ok for tracking at home.

the best tracking/pitching technique i know uses one half of one ear uncovered to get immersion in the music but nail the tuning spot on. don't think you can do that with walkman 'phones.

john clarkson, Monday, 16 January 2006 15:32 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

At the moment, sound exclusion is more important than tuning perfection. We're doing harmony singing, and after have double or even triple tracked vocals on each part. And we often use a click track to keep the doubled tracked vocals perfectly aligned.

If you have one track recorded, you don't get much bleedover and you don't really notice any leakage. But when you have up to eight different tracks, all with that same tiny ping of the clicktrack, it makes a fairly noticable racket. I've been hand editing them out in the soundwave edit window in Cubase, but my god, that takes ages.

Disciplining And Controlling My Mind (kate), Monday, 16 January 2006 15:59 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Urgh. A shiver has just gone down my spine.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Monday, 16 January 2006 16:12 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

At what?

headphones? Or the Cubase soundwave edit window? I love that so much. I can spend hours in there, editing out breaths and things. Fuck using a pop screen or a compressor.

Disciplining And Controlling My Mind (kate), Monday, 16 January 2006 16:26 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

If you've got the dosh, the AKG 271s or 171s both have a nice closed earpiece with minimal

Also, is there a Strip Silence function in Cubase? I use that on individual audio tracks in Logic and/or Pro Tools to automatically chop out the "dead air" bits in between lines of vocals. It can save a lot of editing time.

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Monday, 16 January 2006 16:38 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I don't know - I tend not to trust those things. Either they don't take out the breaths and mic pops and things, or else they get too aggressive and edit out the ends of quietly sung words and things.

Disciplining And Controlling My Mind (kate), Monday, 16 January 2006 16:41 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

You should be able to adjust the threshold so that it doesn't acidentally remove some of the stuff that you want to keep. It's worth experimenting with.

Also, I've been told that using an alternate click track - like a lower pitched sample of a bass drum, or what have you - can reduce headphone bleed.

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Monday, 16 January 2006 16:53 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

At the process of manually editing the clicks, Kate! But fair enough.

You don't need a "strip silence" function necessarily, you could do it with a simple noise gate. But I *hate* noise gates. Much better to get a nice clean signal in the first place.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Monday, 16 January 2006 17:01 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I really really really hate noise gates. They just remind me of the sound of carpet. (Don't ask, long story involving my sister, a microphone, shag carpet, noise gate and a 4-track.)

I should try a different click track sound - that bleep is supposed to cut through anything and my god, it does.

But really, I should get some decent headphones because the ones I've got are really falling to pieces and only do stereo when they feel like it. Also they pick up random crackle and hiss from all over the place, it's like big bang radiation in my earphones, ugh.

Disciplining And Controlling My Mind (kate), Monday, 16 January 2006 17:10 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Fuck using a pop screen or a compressor.

B-b-but a lot of old compressors just sound really cool even when they aren't compressing!

martin m. (mushrush), Monday, 16 January 2006 17:58 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Pop screens (good ones) are a really good idea. Not just for the pop-filtering, but also to avoid spittle accumulating on your micro-thin element (assuming you're using a condenser, if not, never mind.)

martin OTM on old compressors, but god do I hate the new ones, noise gates as well.

John Justen (johnjusten), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 02:45 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

ten years pass...

any new recommendations for affordable headphones for home recording? mine appear to have crapped out.

no one makes headphones with a 1/4-inch plug anymore do they? i have an adapter i've been using with my four-track but it seems like just another part of the chain that can break

Immediate Follower (NA), Friday, 16 September 2016 20:34 (two years ago) Permalink

NA what's your budget? I bought these sennheisers the other week, really like em. have a screw-on 1/4" plug adapter - feels like a sturdier option than the ones that just snap over the 1/8" plug.

Executive Ball Clicker (euphemism) (haitch), Monday, 19 September 2016 05:05 (two years ago) Permalink

those look pretty good. something in that range is probably what i'll be working with. i've had good luck with sennheisers in the past.

Immediate Follower (NA), Monday, 19 September 2016 14:43 (two years ago) Permalink

i've had a pair of those for at least 5 years now, great studio cans.

brimstead, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 05:43 (two years ago) Permalink

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