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I have a stable of about ten cheap, shitty guitars. From the lightweight and fun but impossible to tune Silvertone, to the "neck will bend as soon as the temperature rises or drops more than 3 degrees" Danelectro copy, to the wholly useless sprakly Brownsville with intonation problems.

I'm looking to spend about $600-800. In my old days I relied heavily on Telecasters and 'metal' guitars (like BC Rich and ESP, which are always pretty reliable but look dumb) but sold those off long ago.

Tone is most important. Remember in Spinal Tap, when Nigel is talking about the guitar you can play a note and 'go out for a bite' and come back and it's still ringing? That's what I want. What kind of guitars did Flower Travelin' Band use? Should I go hollow body? Semi hollow?

I also want a guitar that doesn't have to be tuned between each song.

I'm totally interested in classic Travis Beans (duh) but no way am I paying $2,000 for something that will be bumping around in the back of a van for months at a time.

I alternate between playing heavy fuzz / psych rock and creepster acoustic (but electric) blues. For pedals I use the Holy Grail, Big Muff, A shitty old Boss delay pedal, and a few random metal pedals from time to time. I use an Orange solid state amp (one of those reissues) and will probaly go tube asap. But new guitar is first. I had to borrow one for a gig the other night. That just won't do.

Help if you can.

God Body (Roger Fidelity), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 02:19 (twelve years ago) Permalink

you can get a used Guild Starfire 4 for something in that range. they're nearly as good as a gibson es335 - or better in some cases. I've got one. it's great. stays in tune forever, sounds wonderful clean, dirty, totally fuzzed out, anything. and it's loud, and it's light, and it looks nice, and it plays nice.

seriously. very rich sound - lots of nice overtones. it's like agood indian curry. many subtleties in the flavor, and the taste lingers with you for hours :)

AaronK (AaronK), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 02:58 (twelve years ago) Permalink

aaron, that sounds perfect. Thanks. will research.

God Body, Wednesday, 5 October 2005 03:05 (twelve years ago) Permalink

With all of the import guitars out now, you have quite a few different choices for $600-800 bucks if you go new. I think you cannot go wrong finding a guitar that feels good, will stay in tune and sounds nice and crisp unplugged. If it has these three things, you can generally put whatever kind of pickups and pots in it to make it sound good.

I've had good luck with a Paul Reed Smith Santana SE. They are made in Korea and quite well made and they use good tuning keys and it stays in tune way better than my Gibson. The stock humbuckers didn't really blow me away, so I put in a set of Seymour Duncans and this thing is about my favorite guitar.

For that kind of cash, you could get a Mexican made Fender Telecaster or Strat and put whatever kind of pickups you want in it. The coolest Tele I think is out there is that 72 Fender Japan reissue with the two humbuckers. I tried one out and would like to have one of those.

For hollowbodys, the new Hagstrom reissues look pretty nice. A store around here has some and they look quite nice, especially the one that looks like a 335. I haven't played one, so I can't say how they sound.

Earl Nash (earlnash), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 03:14 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Wow, you guys are so helpful. i like this board. Thanks a ton.

whaddya think of these?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dllViewItem&item=7354241391&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dllViewItem&item=7335606096&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

No guesses on what Flower Travellin Band used on "Satori," huh? Man. Single best guitar tone EVER!!

Gosh Buddy, Wednesday, 5 October 2005 03:19 (twelve years ago) Permalink

hmm those links dont work.

i agree with earl - dont worry about the amplified sound as much as all those other factors. generally, if it sounds nice unplugged, it'll sound good plugged in, even with "crappy" pickups. and that's something thats true of guitars of all types and price ranges.

I don't know about hagstrom, but Guild is a more than reputable company on its own, so I trusted that name on the 335 copy.

i bought mine on ebay to boot. have had quite good success getting them on ebay, though i could hardly recommend other people doing so :)

AaronK (AaronK), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 03:41 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Cool. The links were just for Guild Satrfire 4 (currently at about $475) and that Gibson G-400 SG (the Imommi model) - I always heard Epiphones were generally bad news? I've had a few and never liked them...but that G-40 looks good.

Gosh Body, Wednesday, 5 October 2005 03:44 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Howzabout the Fender SQUIER STARFIRE? I'm totally leaning towards at least a semi-hollow. They go for about, what, 8, $900?

Good Buddy, Wednesday, 5 October 2005 03:47 (twelve years ago) Permalink

wow, i had no idea they made one! fender now owns guild of course, so i dont see why not. while I think squiers are generally good for what they are, i would advise spending the little extra for a used guild.

AaronK (AaronK), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 11:26 (twelve years ago) Permalink

The Ibanez artcore stuff is really good, should sell for $300-$450 depending on the model, and is a better guitar than the Squier hands down. We sell both of them, so my bias is personal, not business related.

Before the Guild copies became squiers, they were Dearmonds (also a Fender product) and had much better pickups than the squiers or artcores. Since it's a total pain in the ass to replace pickups in semi-hollowbodies, I'd check for one of those...

John Justen (johnjusten), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 15:11 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I have an Epiphone Les Paul Jr. It's such a peice of crap that it still has the plastic on it's scratch guard 'cause i hardly touch it!

iananonymous, Wednesday, 5 October 2005 22:45 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Not a hollowbody, but I can attest to the fact that those DeArmond 2k pickups sound great. I think the seller is wrong about the chambered body, but I can't quite remember...

John Justen (johnjusten), Thursday, 6 October 2005 00:23 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I have a Dano bass, and I've practically left it out in Arctic cold/put it over a fire and the neck has never bent!

Roxymuzak, Mrs. Carbohydrate (roxymuzak), Thursday, 6 October 2005 15:56 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I'm pretty set on getting an SG, after playing a buncha guitars today. I'll be glad to have a solid body when it's time to rock out again, someday in the future...

hey emily - we should finally meet one of these days!! do you know Reg!na / The Pilot Light?

God Body, Friday, 7 October 2005 21:41 (twelve years ago) Permalink

You can get an SG faded for around $600 I think. They're kind of ugly but cheap.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Friday, 7 October 2005 22:19 (twelve years ago) Permalink

three months pass...
So?

I wish SGs were a little less neck-heavy, but that's just me. I have this fantasy that you got in on the $699 Elitists...

rogermexico (rogermexico), Thursday, 12 January 2006 08:46 (twelve years ago) Permalink

three years pass...

anyone know anything about all these Harmony reissues? they've got a few of them at the store up the street, they look really pretty

http://elderly.com/brand/HARMONY.html

congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 8 October 2009 15:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

haven't seen one in person yet, wondering if they are sourcing them from the same builder that eastwood uses for their korean stuff (particularly since eastwood has/had a h44 reissue already).

FCK R VWLS (jjjusten), Thursday, 8 October 2009 16:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

they are made in korea

congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 8 October 2009 16:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

oh yeah no i saw that on the website, im just curious if they are coming from the same korean manufacturer. if so, thats a good thing, because the korean eastwoods are pretty immaculate buildwise.

FCK R VWLS (jjjusten), Thursday, 8 October 2009 16:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

They certainly look cool. Didn't Jimmy Reed play something like that?

Big King Buggle Sprayer (╓abies), Friday, 9 October 2009 03:59 (eight years ago) Permalink

Er...I was lookin at the 44 and 49.

Big King Buggle Sprayer (╓abies), Friday, 9 October 2009 04:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

wtf is this ass-ugly thing?

http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/Firebird/Gibson-USA/Firebird-X.aspx

congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 29 September 2011 12:43 (six years ago) Permalink

i didn't even bother reading about the "revolutionary features" because it is so offensively ugly

congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 29 September 2011 12:44 (six years ago) Permalink

but at least it has "3rd Party Apps"

congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 29 September 2011 12:44 (six years ago) Permalink

"Thanks to advances in low-power circuitry, greater Robo-Tuner efficiency, and powersaving techniques derived from laptop computers, the internal battery lasts for well over two hours of heavy, continuous use — and should the power run out, the battery can be swapped out in under 10 seconds with commonly available, inexpensive camcorder batteries."

congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 29 September 2011 12:46 (six years ago) Permalink

Was announced at NAMM 2011 in January. Apparently has taken Gibson this long to get in production. Unfortunately they haven't removed any of the ugliness or stupidity from it. For those still in any doubt as to how stupid this is, the two colours are 'Redolution' and 'Bluvolution'.

PoMo with a shotgun (snoball), Thursday, 29 September 2011 12:49 (six years ago) Permalink

xp why don't they just stick an iPad running Garageband on the front of a string-less guitar?
IMAGE BROKEN

PoMo with a shotgun (snoball), Thursday, 29 September 2011 12:52 (six years ago) Permalink

Gibson will set up an authorized store – very much like the Apple iPhone/iPad environment – where all vendors can sell their applications, which we will verify are compliant with our system. Like Apple, this involves a sophisticated e-commerce site that removes the hassle and overhead for a development company and just generates a pure revenue stream for the developer.

It is our intention to roll this out to hundreds of thousands of guitars in different price points, giving all fans and consumers the ability to take advantage of this new technology. This eco-system, with a well-specified and published Gibson environment, will open up thousands of enhancements for our customers.

lol u have not at all built this 'store'

ice cr?m, Thursday, 29 September 2011 12:52 (six years ago) Permalink

xp ah, crap - you'll all just have to imagine an iPad running te guitar instrument from GarageBand

PoMo with a shotgun (snoball), Thursday, 29 September 2011 12:55 (six years ago) Permalink

Gibson have as much chance of making this store work as Nokia have of making a lump of wood into a musical instrument.

PoMo with a shotgun (snoball), Thursday, 29 September 2011 12:57 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah this has been my go to ugliest guitar of the year ever since the press release. between this and the multiple govt raids gibson is looking pretty hopeless imo.

guh (jjjusten), Thursday, 29 September 2011 15:19 (six years ago) Permalink

which frankly is ok with me at this point, financial troubles for both them and fender might be the best thing to happen to the industry in a long time imo

guh (jjjusten), Thursday, 29 September 2011 15:21 (six years ago) Permalink

Fender's having troubles too? Fine by me.

rustic italian flatbread, Thursday, 29 September 2011 15:24 (six years ago) Permalink

huh why is this thread not updating in site new answers?

guh (jjjusten), Thursday, 29 September 2011 15:57 (six years ago) Permalink

That's weird.

rustic italian flatbread, Thursday, 29 September 2011 16:16 (six years ago) Permalink

Possibly something to do with the image I linked to upthread? Maybe a mod could remove it.

PoMo with a shotgun (snoball), Thursday, 29 September 2011 18:48 (six years ago) Permalink

Gibson is one weird ass company.

earlnash, Friday, 30 September 2011 18:32 (six years ago) Permalink

this is a good place for this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZa4iZ93QwQ&feature=player_embedded

guh (jjjusten), Friday, 30 September 2011 20:01 (six years ago) Permalink

This has more dumb switches and knobs than a Jaguar! Maybe this thing will be uber collectible in the 2030s?

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Friday, 30 September 2011 20:12 (six years ago) Permalink

But the controls on a jag make sense!

PoMo with a shotgun (snoball), Friday, 30 September 2011 20:13 (six years ago) Permalink

bump to see if this thing is working with that image gone

guh (jjjusten), Friday, 30 September 2011 20:17 (six years ago) Permalink

sigh. nope.

shrugmoticon

guh (jjjusten), Friday, 30 September 2011 20:18 (six years ago) Permalink

wld ugly nu guitar play through bass amp test test

stet, Saturday, 1 October 2011 19:08 (six years ago) Permalink

So I'm sure there's a dedicated thread for this, but is there such a thing as too many guitars? I'm strictly an amateur, but like any guitarist the accumulation instinct is pretty great, especially when you could get a find electric - a MIM Strat, say - for just a couple of hundred bucks. Yet of course, I can only play one at a time, so at a certain point it feels like collecting for the sake of collecting, even though every guitar plays/feels/sounds distinct. But it's so tempting to add to the (small) stack...

Related question that may also be answerable on another thread: is it better to spend less on a MIM Fender and spend the balance on upgrading pick-ups/electronics to something even better than American stock, or spend more from the start on a MIA Fender? My instincts have always pointed me to the former, considering short of fancy pants custom shop stuff I imagine most Fenders are made the same way, but some people may have a real preference for the MIM vs. MIA.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 8 October 2011 13:25 (six years ago) Permalink

too many guitars?

I got rid of a couple recently, but it's hard to fight that need to buy gear. Not just guitars but pedals, amps, etc.. I try and keep it in check by making sure that a) everything I have I actually use, and b) selling stuff that's redundant (dual humbucker guitar when I already have one, single coil guitar when the main guitar I use already does the same things but better).

triple black belt in ILX-fu (snoball), Saturday, 8 October 2011 14:36 (six years ago) Permalink

I can't answer the second question directly, because I've never bought a new Fender. But as someone who has spent a lot of time messing around with different pickups and wiring harnesses, I will say this - you can end up spending more time tinkering with the electronics than you spend actually playing the guitar! It's a rabbit hole that you can fall into, and it goes down a long long way. If that's your thing then great (it is mine, although not to the extent it was a few years ago), but putting down more money upfront for a guitar that already has what you want out of the box might be a better use of time/money compared to upgrading a less than stellar guitar.

triple black belt in ILX-fu (snoball), Saturday, 8 October 2011 14:46 (six years ago) Permalink

Non-guitar example of a time/money trade-off: a couple of years ago I built a modular synth. It cost £200 in parts, but it took 200 hours of my time. Charging myself £5/hr (less than UK minimum wage), that's £1000, plus the parts cost = £1200. I'm happy with the result, but £1200 can buy a lot of synth gear.

triple black belt in ILX-fu (snoball), Saturday, 8 October 2011 14:51 (six years ago) Permalink

i solve this problem by not having any extra money and also feeling extremely guilty about spending money on nonessential items for myself.

congratulations (n/a), Saturday, 8 October 2011 15:38 (six years ago) Permalink

you had me at silver sparkle gretsch

resulting post (rogermexico.), Friday, 26 September 2014 20:37 (three years ago) Permalink

i seriously just sighed and rolled my eyes up thinking about it, i am in love

jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Friday, 26 September 2014 20:41 (three years ago) Permalink

Looks nice, go for it.

Immediate Follower (NA), Friday, 26 September 2014 20:56 (three years ago) Permalink

I went nuts and got a VHT Special Ultra 6 and the cheapo Gibson SG (even tho I felt guilty for supporting Gibson, it was under $400 for a made in the USA guitar that seems pretty nice). The amp is awesome - built in attenuator that turns down to .1 watts, etc. - but I'm still just embarrassing with a musical instrument. But it's fun making noise.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Saturday, 27 September 2014 14:27 (three years ago) Permalink

you went sane

jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 02:59 (three years ago) Permalink

speaking of which, who's got a sweet sparkly gretsch?

resulting post (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 05:17 (three years ago) Permalink

btw before I die I will play a sparkle jet in blue pearl BANK ON IT

resulting post (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 05:18 (three years ago) Permalink

Weird question, but hear me out. How well would a tele-style guitar sit inside of a hardshell p bass-style case?

I've recently encountered a real space crunch in my house. When we were done reorganizing, the one thing that didn't have a home were my guitars - a tele and a p bass. I tend to go through phases of a month or so where I'll be screwing around with one instrument more than the other, so it makes sense to me to store one guitar in a less-accessible place, but I don't just want to shove it directly in a closet or whatever. And yeah, the current storage situation has just been "leaned up against whatever".

Any thoughts?

how's life, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 13:31 (three years ago) Permalink

Oh, forgot that this is the thread that causes the site new answers weirdness.

how's life, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 13:38 (three years ago) Permalink

Noticing now that there are a number of different layouts of hardshell case, some of which are body-type specific and some of which have a more open layout.

how's life, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 14:16 (three years ago) Permalink

If you are just using it for storage, no problem (if it fits, which it might or might not). Remember that it's oversized when moving it though, you can do plenty of damage to an instrument banging it off of the sides of a case that's too big.

Ass Tchotchke! (jjjusten), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 14:58 (three years ago) Permalink

Yeah, this would be destined for a sedentary life behind a piece of furniture or in storage space or something, not to haul around town. Maybe with some rags padding out the inside of the case for stability. Thanks for this input.

how's life, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 15:06 (three years ago) Permalink

Yeah if it's sitting still with no chance of fag mingle or being messed with, then I can't see it nattering as long as it fits

jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Thursday, 2 October 2014 13:15 (three years ago) Permalink

Good god that was supposed to say "falling"

jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Thursday, 2 October 2014 13:15 (three years ago) Permalink

Also "mattering"

Never posting from a phone again

jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Thursday, 2 October 2014 13:16 (three years ago) Permalink

That post... was AMAZING.

a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 2 October 2014 22:44 (three years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

I like playing guitars. I know next to nothing about buying a guitar. I've had three electric guitars in my life:
- Fender Squier Strat which I got when I was 15 and learnt to play on. Not a bad thing really. Good mid-tone. It did the trick.
- Ibanez, don't know what sort of model, but it wasn't very expensive. A bit light and thin-sounding for me. I got the impression it was more for metal soloists. Just not warm-sounding enough for me. Also the strings kept breaking all the time for some reason.
- Fender Telecaster - Not mine, my bandmate's which he bought for about £800 after we got fed up with my Ibanez. Nice tone, really no problem with it at all. Actually a nice thing. Shame there's no tremolo arm but that's it.

I want my own guitar. I've been playing long enough to get something half-decent, but no idea what style of guitar I want. I'm into sort of funky post-punky scratchy stuff but also warmer rhythm strumming. I don't know a lot about different styles of guitars, let alone what to look out for. I'm not supremely rich either, but keen to save and get a good all-rounder.

What should I consider when looking at different guitars and what people like about them.

canoon fooder (dog latin), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 14:37 (two years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

what the heck is that?!?

alcohol aficionado zane lamprey (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 8 June 2017 14:21 (one year ago) Permalink

Whoa!

how's life, Thursday, 8 June 2017 14:29 (one year ago) Permalink

Yes, more info please.

Austin, Thursday, 8 June 2017 18:44 (one year ago) Permalink

galanti grand prix, italian guitar from circa 1966/67. i love it. sounds great, feels great, seems good and solid.

na (NA), Thursday, 8 June 2017 19:56 (one year ago) Permalink

there are a few on reverb but the red finish seems to be rarer, i ended up tracking down the one i had played at a guitar store in asheville after they had returned it to the guy who had been trying to sell it on consignment.

na (NA), Thursday, 8 June 2017 19:57 (one year ago) Permalink

Ash Bowie played a Galanti GP for most of the early classic Polvo records.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 8 June 2017 20:11 (one year ago) Permalink

don't think i've ever seen one of those before, it's super-cool

alcohol aficionado zane lamprey (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 8 June 2017 20:18 (one year ago) Permalink

The weird old Italian guitars are generally well-made instruments -- accordion manufacturers didn't quite know exactly what to do, but they did it well.

Three Word Username, Thursday, 8 June 2017 20:45 (one year ago) Permalink

^^^ this is the best and most accurate description I've ever heard and I will do my best not to steal it

jjjusten, Friday, 9 June 2017 20:21 (one year ago) Permalink

is this thread doing weird shit for anyone else on SNA and in zing

na (NA), Friday, 9 June 2017 20:32 (one year ago) Permalink

Not at the moment? What weird shit is it doing to you? Also your new guitar rules

jjjusten, Friday, 9 June 2017 21:10 (one year ago) Permalink

xp for me it appears in the correct place in SNA, but has the heading 'Last on Thursday, 8 June 2017 15:16' about it.

Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Friday, 9 June 2017 21:12 (one year ago) Permalink

Oh yeah, it's gone all weird again. What the hell?

jjjusten, Friday, 9 June 2017 21:14 (one year ago) Permalink

looks like this

this was after you posted, so in addition to the date issue, it's not showing the most recent post. yesterday in zing it just wasn't appearing for a while, though now it's back.

na (NA), Friday, 9 June 2017 21:15 (one year ago) Permalink

I'm amazed at the number of $4000+ guitars that don't seem designed just for aging Boomers who want to relive arena rock's heyday.

$4900!
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7229/26230168544_e0cef67ddc_b.jpg

$5500!
https://scontent-sjc2-1.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/s640x640/sh0.08/e35/18878860_1849291595332160_7926944254570528768_n.jpg

They're cool looking and no shade at the builders who can get that much, but I can't figure out who's buying them.

El Tuomasbot (milo z), Saturday, 10 June 2017 21:53 (one year ago) Permalink

(Well, the first would be cool looking without the artificial damage.)

El Tuomasbot (milo z), Saturday, 10 June 2017 21:56 (one year ago) Permalink

Yeah if the damage is artificial, no thanks. And is the "wrong" side pickguard meant to look like it was modified from / to being lefty? I don't mind guitars that look weird and a bit wrong but intentional wrongness is not endearing.

The second one is rather pretty.

bleethal weapon (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 12 June 2017 13:00 (one year ago) Permalink

Given what dudes will pay for a nice vintage Gibson or Fender, some of these boutique instruments are good value for money. I've played Kauer and Ronin basses before --they are pretty terrific (although that distressed Ronin looks like some customer's bad ideas). Pros and collectors buy this stuff -- and more and more pros as big firm guitar marketing begins to fall apart. If your choice is $8,000 for a vintage Gibson or a custom made instrument for $5,000, your choice isn't all that hard. It's the boutique instruments that go north of $7,000 or so that I wonder about (and that you almost never see on stages).

Three Word Username, Saturday, 24 June 2017 19:45 (one year ago) Permalink

Really want to buy an ibanez and just shred

calstars, Saturday, 24 June 2017 20:28 (one year ago) Permalink

that seems like one of the more achievable goals one can have

space chipmunk (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 24 June 2017 20:34 (one year ago) Permalink

: )

calstars, Saturday, 24 June 2017 20:58 (one year ago) Permalink

I just want to inherit a vintage hollow D'Aquisto and create inventive, yet mellow, yet incisive fingerstyle ballads that will herald (and also come to define) the coming age of peace and justice.

space chipmunk (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 24 June 2017 21:27 (one year ago) Permalink

Like Wyld Stallyns

space chipmunk (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 24 June 2017 21:28 (one year ago) Permalink

Really want to buy an ibanez and just shred

There was an Ibanez or Jackson something or other with a pointy headstock and a Floyd Rose and a 15" fingerboard radius for like $150 on Craigslist that I thought pretty hard about. If I wasn't moving soon I might have gone for it

joygoat, Sunday, 25 June 2017 16:53 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Love that radius

calstars, Sunday, 25 June 2017 17:50 (eleven months ago) Permalink

scallops or gtfo

space chipmunk (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 13:57 (eleven months ago) Permalink

I still love the Ibanez RGs.

I ordered an offset Duo-Sonic at the back end of last month and the dealer thought it might take three or four days to come in. Over the course of the last five weeks, they haven't received a single Fender guitar or accessory. There's a new EU restriction in place on the import of rosewood - it was announced mid-2016 and brought into effect in February this year. From the sound of it, Fender haven't got their act together to confirm their CITES license so can't import anything with a rosewood board to Europe. They have kept shipping them though - so everything is getting seized by Customs - including non-rosewood guitars / accessories in the same packages.

Other companies seem to be in the same situation - so there are tens of thousands of guitars held at the UK border with no suggestion of when they might ever be released.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 11:49 (eleven months ago) Permalink

I've just seen that Fender will now manufacture most of their guitars with pau ferro rather than rosewood - so goodness knows when they might be ready.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 11:53 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Of course, having finished typing, i got a call that it had arrived.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 12:13 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Yeah, the CITES thing is global. The stores that were sending used Japanese Fender and Gibson copies to the American market got stuck for quite a while unable to ship.

El Tuomasbot (milo z), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 15:49 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Love the RG series and this marketing copy: "Three decades of metal have forged this high-performance machine"

calstars, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 16:04 (eleven months ago) Permalink


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