I got a hand-me-down iPad for christmas. what are "cool apps" to use to make music? Specifically in a live setting?
― sarahell, Tuesday, 7 January 2014 22:07 (five years ago) link
other ppl who are not Milton who know about this stuff, please post here too
― sarahell, Tuesday, 7 January 2014 22:08 (five years ago) link
― time is a train that make the future flag post (snoball), Tuesday, 7 January 2014 22:56 (five years ago) link
― Clay, Tuesday, 7 January 2014 23:04 (five years ago) link
missed this thread!
kind of can't believe there hasn't been one already. hopefully another one can get started without my stupid name in the thread title.
in 2012-13 I visted these sites daily, though they have slowed down as of late and aren't as good for daily updates. the archives are good though for catching up. the itunes store as we all know is useless for trying to find things; apple depends on the ecosystem of tumblr blogs & enthusiasts to spread the word.
lot of good things here: http://discchord.com/
and the AudioBus forum has become the de facto hang out to discuss any new app, anything interesting that comes out usually gets discussed within seconds of it hitting the itunes store
― Milton Parker, Monday, 10 February 2014 19:21 (five years ago) link
anyone have a favourite ipad midi/sysex controller? lemur and midi designer seem to be the common ones, anyone have any other suggestions?
note: not my ipad
― föllakzoidberg (electricsound), Monday, 10 February 2014 22:16 (five years ago) link
my own personal experience with them is limited, but the other one besides the two you mention to check out is Beatsurfing: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/beatsurfing/id534527468?mt=8
most friends that have gotten serious with this avenue say that Lemur is far and away the best & worth the cost
― Milton Parker, Monday, 10 February 2014 23:02 (five years ago) link
cool. $50 is a lot for something limited and nothing for something really useful
― föllakzoidberg (electricsound), Monday, 10 February 2014 23:03 (five years ago) link
yes, the pricing scheme for these apps can be utterly bizarre. after years of software being locked in at relatively moderate to high-end prices, suddenly we have this alt-universe where so much of it is so improbably cheap that $50 seems astronomically high, even for a particuarly well-crafted & brilliant one.
the pace of new app development has slowed a bit, but the range is still interesting. the big news last month was probably KORG Gadget, a remarkably well designed, easy to use encyclopedia of modern synthesizer presets at your fingertips, allowing you to sound like anyone you already like in less than three minutes. I'm more interested in the half-baked, bug-filled weirdies. I love the aesthetic design that simulates grimy, stained keys, but then just cut & pastes the same dirt for both tiers of the keyboard; it sounds as wrong as it looks: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/moon-beam-synth-sampler/id796575480?mt=8 -- and everyone's posting outraged about how five dollars is a TOTAL RIP-OFF for something Apple shouldn't have even let on the app store, and if these are the problems then we really are deep into a renaissance
― Milton Parker, Tuesday, 11 February 2014 00:59 (five years ago) link
got a itunes gift card, thinking of springing for the KORG Gadget. i have an ipad2, however, not sure if it matters much performance-wise. korg's site says you can only record up to 8 tracks w/ipad2.. ~20 tracks with the ipad air and ipad mini retina.
― brimstead, Tuesday, 11 February 2014 03:06 (five years ago) link
maybe i'll check out some of these homegrown things first. thanks for the links, Milton.
― brimstead, Tuesday, 11 February 2014 03:11 (five years ago) link
Korg Gadget looks fucking awesome. I'm hoping to get an ipad later this year and will buy the shit out of that.
I couldn't play guitar for most of last year due to a nerve injury and got into ios music making (on iphone, not ipad) as an outlet; have had a great time learning principles of synthesis on a bunch of different apps. The ability to fuck with synthesis while on the subway or walking down the street has been a happy revelation. I think I have about a dozen apps on my phone at this point. Most of them have their own onboard recording features but I have audiobus and garageband to make them work together.
It's hard to pick a single favorite but I love SunVox (super versatile primitive interface modular thing by a russian genius, presents itself as kind of chip-tune oriented but it can do just about anything and the way the modules get arranged is very intuitive to me), Synthecaster (controls mimic the layout of a guitar with ability to english individual notes on the fret, fun to make fripp-ish serpent guitar patches), DXi (a japanese guy's classic FM synth emulator), Sunrizer (ridiculously parameter heavy and the easiest one to take presets or blank templates and quickly come up with something deeply perverse), and Magellan for all-around usability and ability to do a little of everything.
I used to think I, as a listener, had an instinctive dislike of FM synth sounds (I start to get natively alienated by the chart pop palette right around 85 or 86, for example) but actually wading into the synthesis itself has made me realize I really really love their particular brand of falseness-- there's something fragile and poignant about it.
Note that the presets on all of the above apps tend to be pretty disgusting but that stops mattering pretty quickly.
Oh yeah I haven't fucked with that many drum machine apps-- I have MoDrum and am pretty happy with it.
― grape is the flavor of my true love's hair (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 11 February 2014 16:35 (five years ago) link
Gadget requires iOS7, and I would think carefully about updating an iPad2 to iOS7. many people report that apps & workflows that used to be fine now choke out, you can't run as many apps at once, you get sputtering audio & dropouts, which is basically a deal-breaker for live use.
I kept my iPad2 on iOS6. And I bought an iPad Air to run newer things. It's a total racket.
xp I love DXi. I also thought I had an 'instinctive' dislike of FM synth sounds, but I just had an instinctive dislike of presets & the DX programming interface. Throw on a multitouch interface to allow for instantaneous tweaking of all four oscillators and suddenly it's an amazing synthesizer. Not as many options as the FM7/FM8 but a lot of real time fun.
In fact that's the thing that hits me again and again with the iPad. you can take softsynth code that is already 5-15 years old, built to emulate synths that are 30-50 years old, throw in the ability to change parameters with multitouch, and suddenly you get bafflingly new variations out of them. The DXi is one of the better examples of that -- you can bring up the tubular bells patch and go 'argh' and yet three seconds of dragging later, you're in new territory
― Milton Parker, Tuesday, 11 February 2014 19:06 (five years ago) link
master site that adds new apps / bumps old ones during app sales. The Korg Polysix is a lot of fun; haven't gone as deep into the iOS MS-20.
― Milton Parker, Wednesday, 12 February 2014 18:53 (five years ago) link
Sux (for me) that the only korg thing avail for iPhone is the kaossilator
― grape is the flavor of my true love's hair (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 23:20 (five years ago) link
oh electric sound touchOSC is way cheaper than the lemur and worth a shot to see if it'll do everything your friend wants it to do
the lemur app is great though, and if you're a maxmsp user MIRA is bloody amazing
― Crackle Box, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 12:09 (five years ago) link
yeah i need to look at touchosc too, i've had it on my own phone for ages but never did anything with it
(i'm the one using lemur, but the ipad is my gf's)
― föllakzoidberg (electricsound), Tuesday, 18 February 2014 21:14 (five years ago) link
Making the rounds today
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 19 February 2014 05:03 (five years ago) link
― Milton Parker, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 18:54 (five years ago) link
― Milton Parker, Thursday, 6 March 2014 18:17 (five years ago) link
keep getting deeper into Virtual ANS. still kind of can't believe this app runs on a phone that's in my pocket at most given moments. like when I have five minutes to kill standing in a line, I don't need to bring up a browser or check facebook, I can just pull this out of my pocket and load a recording of an owl or a cricket into it and then spend three minutes photoshopping the image into a new sound. I mean for twenty years I would occasionally read articles about this impossible synthesizer from the 40's/50's of which only one was ever created, and listen to those Tarkovsky soundtracks wondering what in the world the interface for those sounds could possibly be, and now a little tiny mockup interface of that very synthesizer is sitting on my PHONE.
― Milton Parker, Thursday, 10 April 2014 19:29 (five years ago) link
Oh, I've had a lot of fun with that on my laptop. I also like SunVox, although it takes some getting used to. Would be much better on an 1pad and an iph0ne.
― bamcquern, Thursday, 10 April 2014 19:42 (five years ago) link
I need to get that since sunvox is so great. Only gripe is I rly wish sunvox could take inputs from audiobus and not just be an input for others.
― the urinalysis of fire (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 10 April 2014 20:02 (five years ago) link
bought it, fucking with it, holy crap
listening to artemiev tarkovsky OSTs at work now for object lessons
― hundreds-swarm-dinkytown (Jon Lewis), Friday, 11 April 2014 17:55 (five years ago) link
...the Phonopaper youtube embed
― Milton Parker, Monday, 21 April 2014 17:40 (five years ago) link
Whoa i just accepted this update today but i hadn't read the what's new blurb. Dizzying.
On the imported jpg front i have a gnarled tree from a caspar david friedrich painting which is cooing and chirping nicely.
― hundreds-swarm-dinkytown (Jon Lewis), Monday, 21 April 2014 19:26 (five years ago) link
one of these is currently my favorite synth: http://discchord.com/blog/2014/5/23/app-sales-weekend-edition.html
the real enemy I've been trying to vanquish is how to get direct digital out into my Pro Tools rig, and say goodbye to tracking my iPad through a 15 cent 1/8th headphone jack.
bought an iConnectMIDI4+ -- digital audio pass-through as well as four 5-pin MIDI in/out ports, and shows up as an I/O in almost all DAWs -- save Pro Tools -- making me feel stupid as always for continuing that allegiance. It comes up in Live & Logic, so ostensibly I should be able to get the signal into Pro Tools through ReWire, but the workflow is not as it should be.
so I've also sprung for a Pure i20 -- a modest dock that gives you RCA phono outs, but also, magically -- a digital SPDIF out I can patch into my IO. last night was basically about four straight hours of just bringing up all my favorite softsynths' bass patches and hearing them for the first time. until I get a 30-pin dock with both SPDIF out and MIDI ports, I'll just start coming up with parts I can play on glass.
I can't believe this isn't the most popular thread on this entire board.
― Milton Parker, Friday, 23 May 2014 17:43 (five years ago) link
it's the most popular with me!!!
or at least I get really excited whenever it gets bumped.
I've been learning to use Looptical to see whether it might be preferable as my ios DAW instead of GB. So far I'm super digging it; its grammar, though simple, is very different from GB's so it took some getting used to. Great user manual which is not usually the case with these things.
The other thing has been Traktor DJ-- the ios version was free for one day sometime last year for the anniversary of the app store so I grabbed it but did not actually start fucking with it until a few weeks ago. I had been wanting for awhile to do a project that would pit snippets and loops from Le Marteau Sans Maitre against snippets and loops from Prelude a l'apres-midi d'un Faune and Traktor turned out to work really well for that. I've been making short Marteau vs Faune things in Traktor, exporting them as WAVs and then taking them into Looptical for further deployment as loops and trigger pads. This project is going to be really fun and large and I'm just doing it for my own listening enjoyment.
Milton which of the synths on sale is the one you like?
― Khamma chameleon (Jon Lewis), Friday, 23 May 2014 17:54 (five years ago) link
I have had fun beatmatching the second movement of Marteau to various techno tracks, the transients are distinct enough for automatic beat-matching to get a hold of the BPM. in your case I hope the Faun beat the Hammer. I haven't gotten into using the iPad as a DAW, but it certainly would solve many of my IO+MIDI problems if I could.
I've had luck with all of those sale synths save Z3ta+, which seems powerful enough but always normal. Phawuo is all over an album I just finished which is not coming out until next Spring, it's got a very limited range but as a lead it always stands out.
― Milton Parker, Friday, 23 May 2014 18:25 (five years ago) link
here's a potentially dumb question:
so I have a 1st generation ipad that isn't upgradable to the latest ios (which reminds me why i stopped using apple computers) - and i discovered that i could "trick" the app store to let me download an older version of netflix by buying it on my laptop. Does this "one weird trick" work for synth apps too?
― sarahell, Sunday, 25 May 2014 06:10 (five years ago) link
If you're buying apps via iTunes, it's smart enough not to update an app that is not compatible with a later iOS than what is installed, so in theory it shouldn't be trickable but I'd never be surprised. Try it & let us know
― Milton Parker, Sunday, 25 May 2014 23:20 (five years ago) link
xpost as if android's better on that count? if it is, someone should prove it
― markers, Sunday, 25 May 2014 23:49 (five years ago) link
Android is no good for music apps because of latency anyway iirc
― Khamma chameleon (Jon Lewis), Monday, 26 May 2014 00:48 (five years ago) link
xp well, apparently there wasn't an earlier version of your beloved phawuo available (I've only had this ipad since January or whenever it was i started this thread btw) - so I am out of luck in that regard, but the same guy has a noise generator app that is really cool.
― sarahell, Monday, 26 May 2014 01:28 (five years ago) link
Korg Gadget is $29 (down from $39) today.
― Immediate Follower (NA), Friday, 11 July 2014 17:11 (five years ago) link
Beepboop is free today, it's pretty simple but seems to make some interesting noises.
― Immediate Follower (NA), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 16:59 (four years ago) link
there is a fairly notable revolution going on and this thread should be hopping. the only conceivable reason for this thread being this dormant is that the relevant practitioners are hoarding their discoveries.
― Milton Parker, Wednesday, 14 October 2015 20:35 (three years ago) link
Making music in iOS has certainly revolutionized my life over the course of the last 2 years. My inner life anyway. I literally seize every spare moment to keep composing and designing patches. Full disclosure, I almost never use my iPad though, I pretty much do everything on my 6+ (app selection is more limited of course -- some of the iPad only synths and daws I would kill to be able to have on my phone.
Maniacally obsessed with iOS virtual modulatars lately as a means of forcing myself to a better understanding of nuts and bolts synthesis principles. Jasuto is amazingly deep in a sunvox kind of way.
― banned on ixlor (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 20:59 (three years ago) link
Modulars not modulatars fuckin autocorrect
are there any music apps with autocorrect
― lil urbane (Jordan), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 21:17 (three years ago) link
please list key apps, I have not been paying attention. I've got Figure and Take and that's about it.
― BRAAAAAAMETHEUS (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 21:20 (three years ago) link
I would like to make the $200+ I'm about to spend on getting my ipad mini screen replaced feel like it'll be worth it
― BRAAAAAAMETHEUS (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 21:21 (three years ago) link
it depends what you want to do and how you want to do it. Are you a keyboard person? A draw patterns with your finger person? A type things into boxes person? Personally, I have some trouble with the apps that have keyboard interfaces because a lot of them feel too small/narrow -- though one of the korg ones has an option for larger sized keys (that for me still feel a bit narrow). I pretty much just use mine to make "cool sounds" that I then record and edit and put on a sampler. The size of the interface designs make it less appealing for me in live performance, though I know Milty P. is quite fond of using his in a live setting.
― sarahell, Thursday, 15 October 2015 08:26 (three years ago) link
tom: there are now too many apps to safely recommend only a few without knowing what your musical tastes are, but Tera Synth is a good all-in-one, Patterning is a touchscreen drum machine GUI with very little precedent, and TC-11 has a steep learning curve but it's often the one I show people first -- under the hood it is a 40 year old FM synth engine but you control the patch with the XY positions, distances & angles between your one to ten fingers instead of moving individual knobs and faders
part of this was noticing just how widespread the response has been to Patterning and Fugue Machine; it's not just dev sites & message boards, sites that normally only cover new record releases & interviews are now covering app releases
― Milton Parker, Thursday, 15 October 2015 17:57 (three years ago) link
I wish he would hurry up and release the iPhone version of fugue machine. His previous sequencer, Arpeggionome, is a favorite. I have an exciting WIP where Arpeggionome is midi controlling a melody line while Xynthesizr midi controls a battery of orchestral percussion samples with differing pattern lengths
I'm working on a list of recommendations but it's hard to keep it concise
Patterning looks amazing. Also iPad only, gah.
― banned on ixlor (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 15 October 2015 18:43 (three years ago) link
how do you guys generally get sounds from a phone/tablet to a computer DAW? record out of the headphone jack, or...?
― lil urbane (Jordan), Thursday, 15 October 2015 18:58 (three years ago) link
depends on if the app I'm using has its own recording capabilities or not. If it does (like Magellan does, for instance) I record my bit and export it to iTunes file sharing, then pull it out of there by docking my phone to my macbook
If it doesn't, I record it through Audiobus into Audioshare, then export the clip from audioshare into itunes file sharing (audioshare can also send the clip to any of the other apps on my phone that can open wavs, or send it to gmail to be attached to an email). (Audioshare and Audiobus both utterly obligatory if you are doing anything with sounds on an ios device)
Or you can record your app into ios garageband (which is quite fine if you use it as a simple multitrack recorder of other apps) and export it as an aiff to your desktop daw or a garageband project file to desktop GB.
― banned on ixlor (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 15 October 2015 19:06 (three years ago) link
word, thanks. in my case i would use Audioshare > Dropbox > download on my PC that's connected to the internet > put it on a usb stick > transfer it to my music PC that's not online. :)
i don't know any Apple products besides my iPod Classic, but i'm really tempted by the possibilities of some of these apps.
― lil urbane (Jordan), Thursday, 15 October 2015 19:10 (three years ago) link
could you countenance having itunes on your not-online music PC? Then you could just dock to that and transfer shit directly?
Hopefully Android will catch up, I understand that some of the inbuilt latency challenges are starting to be overcome on certain phones? Sunvox and Caustic both exist for Android already but obv one would have to focus on tracker-based or piano-roll-based composing rather than live writing bc of the latency...
― banned on ixlor (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 15 October 2015 19:14 (three years ago) link
Android made a big deal recently of reducing their latency, all the way down to... 40ms. still basically unusable for music. I also have heard from some developers that in practice they still can't get anywhere close to 40ms. this explains why it's still mostly an iOS game.
― Milton Parker, Thursday, 15 October 2015 19:23 (three years ago) link
I mentioned KRFT a couple weeks ago itt -- it is a brilliant concept and it's really lighting ppl up and I wish it fit better with what I want to be doing right now. I'm just not in a looping patterny place right now.
I'm really stuck on trying to get at this non-grooving molto rubato kind of basking rhapsodic feel... I can hear/see it but the dance-gauged tools of iOS and my own anxious temperament and muscle memory keep pushing things toward squirrelyness...
― gimmesomehawnz (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 11 May 2017 02:38 (two years ago) link
Check out what my son made with KRFT:https://soundcloud.com/djisbister/bip-05-reflection-by-benjamin-isbister
He's been getting REALLY into it, and making way cooler stuff than I've made so far.
― DJI, Thursday, 1 June 2017 17:20 (two years ago) link
Dang, that's really cool. It would take me forever to make that from scratch on my computer, what am I doing with my life, etc.
― change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 1 June 2017 17:57 (two years ago) link
Like, I listened to the new Pearson Sound EP right afterward and barely noticed the transition.
― change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 1 June 2017 18:37 (two years ago) link
― DJI, Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:54 (two years ago) link
I gotta spend more time with KRFT obv!
― or at night (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:59 (two years ago) link
just got it. will see what we can make of it tonight!
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 1 June 2017 20:01 (two years ago) link
If you want to play with my kid's surfaces, his username is bip_05.
― DJI, Thursday, 1 June 2017 20:04 (two years ago) link
oh neat! I found one of his right away. Reminds me of Spacetime Continuum.
I'm trying to make detuned noisy stuff with it and but it is very slow going so far
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 3 June 2017 17:51 (two years ago) link
Novation have a new, free app called Groovebox which is pretty good fun.
― Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 22:10 (two years ago) link
Yeah I am seeing it described as a less hobbled Figure
New and exciting for me this week is a new synth in the Minimoog style by the wonderful developer ApeSoft who did the brilliant iOS incarnation of the VCS3 Synthi. It's more than just a Mini homage-- it's got a feature where you can load a WAV sample which then warps the oscillator frequencies in some odd way, and a step-based waveform in the LFO options, and the ability to double tap almost anything in the app to assign it a dedicated LFO. The app is an Audio Unit so you can deploy multiple instances of it in GarageBand or Cubasis or whatever.
Following soon, it sounds like, is an (also Audio Unit enabled) app called Ripplemaker from the same developer who did Troublemaker and Phasemaker -- this one is his take on 'west coast' buchla style modular synthesis. THAT I can't wait for.
Also, KRFT now has virtual MIDI Out!
― or at night (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 22:35 (two years ago) link
Yeah I am seeing it described as a less hobbled FigureNew and exciting for me this week is a new synth in the Minimoog style by the wonderful developer ApeSoft who did the brilliant iOS incarnation of the VCS3 Synthi. It's more than just a Mini homage-- it's got a feature where you can load a WAV sample which then warps the oscillator frequencies in some odd way, and a step-based waveform in the LFO options, and the ability to double tap almost anything in the app to assign it a dedicated LFO. The app is an Audio Unit so you can deploy multiple instances of it in GarageBand or Cubasis or whatever. Following soon, it sounds like, is an (also Audio Unit enabled) app called Ripplemaker from the same developer who did Troublemaker and Phasemaker -- this one is his take on 'west coast' buchla style modular synthesis. THAT I can't wait for. Also, KRFT now has virtual MIDI Out!
the Apesoft synth is called Mood ftr
Really excited for Ripplemaker!
― beard papa, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 00:46 (two years ago) link
Durrr me forgetting to name the apesoft synth. Pronounced 'mode' of course, cute.
― or at night (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 14 June 2017 01:16 (two years ago) link
Holy crap Ripplemaker is under App Store review already and might be available this weekend!!!
― or at night (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 15 June 2017 17:06 (two years ago) link
I've bought every Bram app on launch and have had zero regrets. Can't believe how quickly this one seems to have been developed.
― beard papa, Thursday, 15 June 2017 19:31 (two years ago) link
got newish iPad mini!
Novation Launchpad is pretty promising in terms of an app for playing live w/samples
Playing live with multiple apps running things seems too tricky for me ... is that something people do even?
― sarahell, Friday, 16 June 2017 06:13 (two years ago) link
Hey that's great! I have an iPad Mini 3 and it has been able to handle any apps I've thrown at it.
Performing with multiple simultaneous apps - this is definitely something people do but it's a bit overwhelming to me too. I think people tend to use AUM for this (it's kind of a virtual mixing board which can host disparate apps at once on separate busses) or something like Infinite Looper (where you can have a bunch of different loops each sending virtual MIDI to a different app and use it to launch certain loops, pause other ones, switch to alt version of loops, etc).
I find this kind of thing more manageable with a groovebox type setup like Gadget where I can sculpt a little lineup of synth patches and get them looping along together at uneven loop lengths all within the same app, and then add a final Gadget synth I use to improvise over the phasing repetitions.
Sarah, I definitely think you would love Ripplemaker--which is out today!-- and also iVCS3 for sure, they are both deep and crazy enough to generate a real performance from without using anything else.
― or at night (Jon not Jon), Friday, 16 June 2017 18:01 (two years ago) link
Korg has a half-price sale on Gadget, etc at the moment (having doubled the prices in three years, tbf).
― Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Friday, 11 August 2017 08:50 (two years ago) link
The Korg iMono/Poly is still discounted through September 30. It sounds pretty goddamned amazing
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 14 September 2017 03:46 (one year ago) link
Yeah I got it, it's fantastic
― harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 14 September 2017 11:03 (one year ago) link
The iMono/Poly is terrific. Are all the Korg soft synths this good?
― Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Tuesday, 26 September 2017 19:59 (one year ago) link
The only one I've tried is iWavestation and it's one of my favorite synths: Others I rate highly would be Model 15, Mitosynth, Phasemaker, and Nanostudio's Eden. I'm also pretty sure I like SynthScaper, but I still suck at it. I haven't tried iMono/Poly yet. Recently bought Zeeon and like that one a lot so far.
― beard papa, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 20:18 (one year ago) link
What's everybody's favorite DAW app (or environment)? I've tried Nanostudio, Beatmaker 2, SunVox, KRFT, Modstep, Garageband, Infinite Looper, and various combinations of those + AUM and/or Audiobus 3. I can't seem to hit the sweet spot. If Nanostudio was more open, allowed AU/IAA inserts and audiotracks, it would be hands down my favorite. Looking forward to Nanostudio 2. Haven't tried Beatmaker 3 yet. I gravitate toward long linear tracks and realize that my desired workflow is pretty similar to (the PC version of) FL Studio.
I feel like most iOS apps push me toward a pattern-based ultra repetitious techno style. The most fun I've had is with probably just doing long meandering ambient style tracks with a midi sequencer or two using AUM as a host + mixer.
― beard papa, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 21:09 (one year ago) link
Have you tried the Cubase one? That's what I would use if I was still messing around with apps, it seems the most like a traditional DAW.
― change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 26 September 2017 21:23 (one year ago) link
NanoStudio 2 is going to be just what the doctor ordered for both of us, I think. I’m totally with you on needing iOS DAWs where I can just start a linear soliloquy and go as far as I want. I never get anywhere with the pattern based ones. Just a great weird 8 or 16 bar groove that I never do anything with. As it is, NanoStudio 1 is the one I’ve gotten the most “me” tracks completed in.
The revamped version of FL Mobile (FLM3) is pretty great for linear, actually, at least once you buy the IAP polysynth. I’ve only made stuff with the (very nice sounding) onboard synths and not audio or IAA, though.
On iPad, MultiTrack Studio (geert bremmers) is really great. Supports AU, lets you fluctuate tempo, gives you the choice of standard keys or a fretboard layout for the onscreen keyboard, and also supports soundfonts.
― harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 26 September 2017 22:24 (one year ago) link
I bought Gadget to entertain myself while travelling and it's hugely impressive. The sequencing is a bit fiddly but the range of sounds is good.
― Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Friday, 29 September 2017 21:06 (one year ago) link
I would love gadget to death if I could only have a linear ‘record as long as I want’ mode.
I love the Phoenix and Dublin gadgets a lot; of the extra purchase ones, the bass guitar and odyssey ones are crucial (the bass guitar one has a more expressive, easier to play onscreen keyboard than the rest and the odyssey one has by far the best sheer sound quality
― harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Friday, 29 September 2017 21:13 (one year ago) link
Is that the ARP Odyssey you’re referring to?
― El Tomboto, Friday, 29 September 2017 21:42 (one year ago) link
Yes if you buy Korg’s arp odyssey app you get to also use it in Gadget (its gadget name is Lexington iirc)
― harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Friday, 29 September 2017 21:59 (one year ago) link
― El Tomboto, Friday, 29 September 2017 22:07 (one year ago) link
Idk why they give them alternate names inside gadget - the wavestation in gadget becomes Milpitas- I guess just so everything fits the city-name scheme.
― harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Friday, 29 September 2017 22:12 (one year ago) link
Does Gadget let you have odd time signatures
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 30 September 2017 01:09 (one year ago) link
or you know I could use a search engine
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 30 September 2017 01:13 (one year ago) link
That is one strength of gadget - you can change time signature per scene in your song sequence. On one project, I just needed an odd pause between sections so I inserted an empty 1-bar scene in 1/4
― harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Sunday, 1 October 2017 12:25 (one year ago) link
The only one I've tried is iWavestation and it's one of my favorite synths
Picked this up yesterday and could see myself happily tinkering with it for months to come.
― Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Monday, 2 October 2017 17:21 (one year ago) link
New track from my kid: https://soundcloud.com/djisbister/magmatic-domain-by-benjamin-isbister
― DJI, Saturday, 14 October 2017 18:19 (one year ago) link
(made with KRFT)
I totally deleted KRFT because your kid is better at it than I will ever be, btw
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 14 October 2017 20:28 (one year ago) link
― DJI, Saturday, 14 October 2017 21:42 (one year ago) link
IOptigan. When you change sample banks, it displays all the original jacket art for the original optical discs, If for any reason any of you would like to be happy.
― Milton Parker, Friday, 3 November 2017 18:40 (one year ago) link
I saw that -- it looks pretty awesome. Prior to that app description I had not understood exactly how bonkers the optigan's operating principle was. I just wanted to hop in here and say that moog model 15 is on sale for 9.99 (from 29.99) AND has just been updated as an IOS AU. Track it up next to an instance of Ripplemaker and an instance of iVCS3 and enjoy the unearned feeling of being king of all synths
― harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Friday, 3 November 2017 18:50 (one year ago) link
Just bought this, very well designed and easy to use
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Sunday, 31 March 2019 00:50 (four months ago) link
I made a quick little Steve Reich-y thing this morning and concur, Esion is fun and really easy to pick up. Thanks for the tip. Now just get it to plug into AudioBus!!
― El Tomboto, Monday, 8 April 2019 18:30 (four months ago) link
^ that looks fun!
I had swung back to PC for music making and was kind of starting to regret the money I'd dropped on gadget, module, etc, but last night I finally dug into getting audio sources from the ipad integrated with Ableton via Studiomux, and once it's set up it works really well! midi going from the PC to the ipad (so I can use controllers that don't rely on a bluetooth connection) and audio going from the ipad to the PC--it's neat, like an outboard VST.
I can't yet get patterns from Gadget into Live easily--I know you can save a gadget project as a Live set, but I'd like to be able to just play the patterns in gadget and "record" them into a midi clip as they arrive in Live.
― Dan I., Monday, 8 April 2019 20:32 (four months ago) link
i'm basically just killing time until Nanostudio 2 gets its iPhone version
― valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Monday, 8 April 2019 21:20 (four months ago) link
So if I wanted to record an iPad (mini) directly into my DAW/interface, is a dock the only way to go?
― change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 14:19 (four months ago) link
Even then...I'm looking at the Focusrite iTrack dock, and it seems like everything is designed to record into the iPad, not out? Could I use the stereo monitor outs to record the output?
I know I can just send audio files to Dropbox, but that's super laborious with my setup (bad internet, and an offline studio computer).
― change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 14:28 (four months ago) link
Nope, the solution I described above using Studiomux only requires a USB cord. With macs it's even easier, no third party software required I think (but I don't use a mac for music stuff so I'm not sure)
― Dan I., Wednesday, 10 April 2019 15:39 (four months ago) link
Oh amazing, thanks! I had assumed that was just for midi. I'll definitely give it a shot.
― change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 15:47 (four months ago) link
And of course you could just run the 3.5mm jack from the ipad into one of your interface's audio inputs, but (and I'm no expert, but I'm given to understand that) you'll probably lose some audio quality compared to staying in the digital realm
― Dan I., Wednesday, 10 April 2019 17:00 (four months ago) link