yeah I dunno, this seems like it could be more difficult, but I'm pretty good at making rules for myself
― corey, Sunday, 6 March 2011 04:06 (thirteen years ago) link
I support your choice to do this experiment, but I also support your choice to change your mind if you go guano loco and just want to take the edge off the old fashioned way.
― rittah shpoaht (Abbbottt), Sunday, 6 March 2011 04:08 (thirteen years ago) link
what did your roommate accomplish in his 30 days that he wasn't able to previously
― pascal's swagger (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 6 March 2011 04:11 (thirteen years ago) link
nothing as easily explainable as something like "he wrote a 600 page novel" but he swears that the heightened state he reached basically helped him get a new job and quadruple his income.
― corey, Sunday, 6 March 2011 04:18 (thirteen years ago) link
I think it's less an adderall-like gain of focus than a shift in the internal mechanisms that cause you to respond to stimuli in situations, like priming a rifle and pulling the trigger when the moment's right.
― corey, Sunday, 6 March 2011 04:20 (thirteen years ago) link
There's no way I could ever make it 30 days (not in this decade at least, though I did actually go 5 weeks about 5 years ago) but you definitely notice a change, feel more firmly grounded, and feel like less of a slave to your loins.
The only thing I'll mention is that I don't think it really works like flipping on a lightswitch: I doubt going cold turkey overnight will just sublimate your energy to productive ends like that, I think you there's probably going to have to work to a different state of mind if this would work/not be agonizing (though please prove me wrong! my goal is to harness asexual-workaholism is drive me through grad school).
Also, prepare for, shall we say... nocturnal emissions.
― EDB, Sunday, 6 March 2011 04:59 (thirteen years ago) link
Ha, I've never had one in my life, so that might be fun.
― corey, Sunday, 6 March 2011 05:04 (thirteen years ago) link
Geez I can go months without rubbin' one out but as E said, maybe it's diff for girls?
...I feel weird for having admitted this.
― gnarly gnarlingtons in my life (Trayce), Sunday, 6 March 2011 05:51 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't have to DECIDE to do this.
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 6 March 2011 15:48 (thirteen years ago) link
...you can't wank?
― corey, Sunday, 6 March 2011 15:50 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm going to do this as an experiment to see if it's possible that sexual "energy" can be transmuted into other endeavors. It seems kind of a Freudian outdated notion to me,
That's because it is. Sexual energy can only be ignored or repressed, it can't be rechanneled.
and any search on people who advocate doing this are doing so for religious reasons.
"Women sap men's energy." This is the unconcious reasoning behind the less sex=more energy myth. Unless you're fucking or jacking off 50 times a day, cutting out sex won't add much to your energy stores.
Unless you really mean "dating." In that case, cutting that out temporarily might save enough time and energy to matter.
My roommate has done this and says he noticed a palpable difference in the way his desires manifested themselves and in his drive to satisfy them.
This is the only thing you'll get out of your sexual fast. It won't change your life like your roommate said it did his.
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Monday, 7 March 2011 00:07 (thirteen years ago) link
How do you know?
― corey, Monday, 7 March 2011 00:46 (thirteen years ago) link
btw EDB already said this was helpful for him
also I'm gay so your feminist reading is wrong
this idea seems to bother you quite a bit. I wonder why.
― corey, Monday, 7 March 2011 00:55 (thirteen years ago) link
Christine can answer for herself, corey, but some of the imagery in the whole "sex saps creative/competitive drive" idea is holding over from Victorian mores about women and how their sexual allure would cloud men's minds and sap their energy and will, and turn men away from pure intellectualism which was supposed to be their true strength. Obv a person could have reasons for abstinence that didn't involve those ideas at all, but there are deep anti-feminist roots here.
― go peddle your bullshit somewhere else sister (Laurel), Monday, 7 March 2011 01:48 (thirteen years ago) link
other endeavours can suck it imo
if a desire to fap is really that much of a energy sapper you got other problems
― vanilla friedman (electricsound), Monday, 7 March 2011 01:51 (thirteen years ago) link
this is an experiment, whether it fails or not is irrelevant
― corey, Monday, 7 March 2011 01:56 (thirteen years ago) link
experimentation is a beautiful thing
― vanilla friedman (electricsound), Monday, 7 March 2011 01:57 (thirteen years ago) link
zilch-curious
― WmC, Monday, 7 March 2011 02:00 (thirteen years ago) link
xp It goes back much, much farther than the 19th century, actually. And I have a strong dislike for science used long past its sell-by date, particularly psychiatric science. (Pop Freudism, esp.) But this is my problem to deal with, so ignore me if you wish.
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Monday, 7 March 2011 02:02 (thirteen years ago) link
Victorian mores? What about Chinese chi energy concepts? Surely this goes back to that more than anything.
― gnarly gnarlingtons in my life (Trayce), Monday, 7 March 2011 02:05 (thirteen years ago) link
dont know about the linkage btwn victorian mores/feminism, but I can maybe see where successfully imposing some self-discipline over compulsive urges might have positive side-effects for someone feeling in a rut or w/e without it necessarily emanating from 'sex/women are stealing my natural POWER'
Not rly convinced by 'rechannelling of energies' but yknow go for it
― Achillean Heel (darraghmac), Monday, 7 March 2011 02:12 (thirteen years ago) link
Whatever your take on the mechanics of it (I, as a good Freudian, feel like that energy has gotta go somewhere; whether you have any control of where it goes and how it manifests itself, though, is another issue), I think you do notice some kind of qualitative change that, if nothing else, is interesting to play out in order to get some sort of articulation of how you relate to your sexual desire in certain circumstances. And it seems like that's the reason you're doing this, rather than to summon the energy to write the great American novel, or whatever.
― EDB, Monday, 7 March 2011 04:00 (thirteen years ago) link
Your spell will be broken when I make my marathon erotic spectacular* titled 30-Day Asstinence.
*porn
― rittah shpoaht (Abbbottt), Monday, 7 March 2011 04:31 (thirteen years ago) link
if I have to go more than three hours without very emotionally intense sex I become irritable & grouchy
― five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 7 March 2011 04:33 (thirteen years ago) link
damn you gotta have sex every two hours and fifty five minutes owned
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 7 March 2011 04:34 (thirteen years ago) link
owned meaning you got owned not owned as in me directing my post at your username
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 7 March 2011 04:35 (thirteen years ago) link
wait no does that post I owned you with even make sense
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 7 March 2011 04:36 (thirteen years ago) link
for some reason that is making me lol really hard
xpost more lol
― five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 7 March 2011 04:36 (thirteen years ago) link
underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have o-faced
― Neu! romancer (dayo), Monday, 7 March 2011 04:37 (thirteen years ago) link
honestly thinking about it you got owned anyway but yeah my post doesnt make sense
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 7 March 2011 04:37 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.energyfiend.com/wp-content/steven-tyler-210x300.jpg
― five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 7 March 2011 04:38 (thirteen years ago) link
uh-owned I'm having a fantasy
owned face
― HOOStory is back. Fasten your steenbelts. (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 7 March 2011 04:39 (thirteen years ago) link
i think the other reason i wouldn't try this is i worry it would end up in
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lepp9a5ZYz1qexswno1_400.gif
― vanilla friedman (electricsound), Monday, 7 March 2011 04:47 (thirteen years ago) link
wtf is that
― corey, Monday, 7 March 2011 04:49 (thirteen years ago) link
cough
― vanilla friedman (electricsound), Monday, 7 March 2011 04:50 (thirteen years ago) link
if I go more than two days without jerking off or being pleasured i instantly get a boner whenever i see anything spherical in shape
― orville reddenflocka (San Te), Monday, 7 March 2011 05:47 (thirteen years ago) link
^^^ this.
― OLD MAN YELLS AT SHOUT RAP (chrisv2010), Monday, 7 March 2011 16:18 (thirteen years ago) link
No orgasms for more than 48 hours starts to feel (physically) like nicotine withdrawal to me - which isn't energy, exactly, but a kind of muscle tension.
― boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Monday, 7 March 2011 16:40 (thirteen years ago) link
I count JO as abstinence, btw
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Monday, 7 March 2011 17:00 (thirteen years ago) link
i've been doing two to three day stints without jerking it recently, and the result has been that having sex is infinitely more pleasurable and i am much more active in my choices of partners, positions, etc.
― tbf explicitly gay albums aren't quite as cultural (the table is the table), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 01:40 (thirteen years ago) link
Its been well over 30 days for me already, since I ditched my last partner late last year and don't find it's worth the bother to go it alone.
I'm never in the mood anymore it seems. In large part because of a prescription med I need to take that's a complete libido killer. I actually *iiked* that side effect at first because it made it easy to resist the late-night booty texts I was until then too tempted to take her up on, from someone whom I was finding increasingly disrespectful and annoying.
― Lee626, Tuesday, 8 March 2011 14:55 (thirteen years ago) link
my meds are supposed to squash my libido, but they don't. although it takes me forever to bust a nut.
― OLD MAN YELLS AT SHOUT RAP (chrisv2010), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 16:56 (thirteen years ago) link
Woops, gotta start over u_u
― corey, Wednesday, 9 March 2011 23:21 (thirteen years ago) link
hahaha "accident"
― Slow lorax loves getting tickled (dayo), Wednesday, 9 March 2011 23:22 (thirteen years ago) link
It just kinda happened :(
― corey, Thursday, 10 March 2011 00:23 (thirteen years ago) link
but hey, the upside is I don't think I've ever gone four days without jacking it
Since admitting to being a good Freudian, I heard an anecdote where Freud, in a lecture, admitted that sublimation doesn't really work. Heh.
Also, the other thing that's been sort of gotten at is that, after holding it in for like 8 or so days, jerking off is a completely different experience. Way more intense.
― EDB, Thursday, 10 March 2011 01:11 (thirteen years ago) link
there is no question in my mind that shagging is wayyyy better when there is no intersample fapping
― australian rules football quarterback (electricsound), Thursday, 10 March 2011 01:14 (thirteen years ago) link
x2. Not only will it be way better, but i'll be way more in the mood in the first place
― Lee626, Thursday, 10 March 2011 01:47 (thirteen years ago) link
anytime ive sworn off jerking off i've gotten so much play― plax (ico), Tuesday, March 15, 2011 8:15 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark
― plax (ico), Tuesday, March 15, 2011 8:15 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark
ha, ditto
never really understood that comic trope of "jerk off before you go out on a date" a la something about mary---feel like doing that would actually diminish the chances of gettin laid just because you'd be all "welp i came two hours ago so w/e"
― FUN FUN FUN FUN (gbx), Thursday, 17 March 2011 23:41 (thirteen years ago) link
I thought that was so you wouldn't come too quickly if you did get laid.
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Friday, 18 March 2011 00:40 (thirteen years ago) link
for me "not too quickly" usu becomes "not at all" if there was intermediate manual handling
― loser beam (electricsound), Friday, 18 March 2011 00:41 (thirteen years ago) link
My husband does best if we get him off quickly in the beginning before the slow, loving foreplay starts. He's the type that can't come after long periods of stimulation.
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Friday, 18 March 2011 01:04 (thirteen years ago) link
you'd be all "welp i came two hours ago so w/e"
― FUN FUN FUN FUN (gbx), Thursday, March 17, 2011 11:41 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
right i mean the tension is gone so you miss obvious signals and wind up going without anyway
not that i know anything abt this
― HOOStory is back. Fasten your steenbelts. (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 18 March 2011 02:03 (thirteen years ago) link
of course not neither do i
― FUN FUN FUN FUN (gbx), Friday, 18 March 2011 03:21 (thirteen years ago) link
I have failed massively at this challenge btw
― corey, Friday, 18 March 2011 03:24 (thirteen years ago) link
ahahaha.
― scorpions on my nips and smear peanut butter on my ass (the table is the table), Friday, 18 March 2011 04:44 (thirteen years ago) link
I thought that was so you wouldn't come too quickly if you did get laid.― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Friday, 18 March 2011 00:40 (8 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Friday, 18 March 2011 00:40 (8 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
That's the theory, but:
1) as said, the will is reduced2) if you do 'score', it's way easier to explain "ah, you are too awesome, that's why I came so quickly" as opposed to "It's not you" for the under-action...
― Mark G, Friday, 18 March 2011 09:32 (thirteen years ago) link
(i actually signed a contract stating that i don't get paid if i don't come).― scorpions on my nips and smear peanut butter on my ass (the table is the table), Thursday, 17 March 2011 23:34 (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― scorpions on my nips and smear peanut butter on my ass (the table is the table), Thursday, 17 March 2011 23:34 (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
strangest library job ever...
― Mark G, Friday, 18 March 2011 09:33 (thirteen years ago) link
can't think of any job where you get paid if you don't come
― dayo, Friday, 18 March 2011 09:37 (thirteen years ago) link
i was setting myself up for that, i guess. well, you all know what i meant.
― bun fun times infinity (the table is the table), Friday, 18 March 2011 18:03 (thirteen years ago) link
-feel like doing that would actually diminish the chances of gettin laid just because you'd be all "welp i came two hours ago so w/e"
A rather-kinky girl told a story once about ma making her partner go a week with no orgasms because she wanted to see how large of a load she could swallow.
― boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Friday, 18 March 2011 20:04 (thirteen years ago) link
she must have felt really close to her to open up like that
― ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Friday, 18 March 2011 20:20 (thirteen years ago) link
oh I misread that, they were even closer than I thought
that girl sounds fun.
― The Scenario (chrisv2010), Friday, 18 March 2011 20:39 (thirteen years ago) link
I think a reference to the urban legend about the cheerleader/random gay celebrity/whatever who had to get his/her stomach pumped after swallowing a massive amount of semen is needed here.
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Friday, 18 March 2011 22:16 (thirteen years ago) link
i havent read this whole thread but this sort of experiment seems like it could put you on the fast track to testicular cancer.
― calling planet dearth (sunny successor), Friday, 18 March 2011 22:29 (thirteen years ago) link
Even if you're a woman?
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 19 March 2011 05:15 (thirteen years ago) link
I dunno maybe swallowing cum gives you cancer who knows.
Oh wait.
― bad voise, it sucked, pick a seat (Trayce), Saturday, 19 March 2011 05:51 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't think that it works that way SS.
― ENBB, Saturday, 19 March 2011 12:15 (thirteen years ago) link
why risk it imo
― the '' key on my keybord is not working (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 March 2011 12:26 (thirteen years ago) link
Would like to see how the Daily Mail handles this: "Abstinence Causes Cancer! So have lots of sex. Er, no wait... That doesn't fit in with out right wing agenda... FREE pr0n DVD for every reader!!!"
― a murder rap to keep ya dancin, with a crime record like Keith Chegwin (snoball), Saturday, 19 March 2011 13:37 (thirteen years ago) link
I meant prostate cancer and yeah that is kind of how it works
― calling planet dearth (sunny successor), Sunday, 20 March 2011 06:36 (thirteen years ago) link
isn't that only if you're older?
― corey, Sunday, 20 March 2011 13:02 (thirteen years ago) link
Prostate problems mostly show up in older men, but he's right: The common American sex pattern of not touching your dick or letting anyone else touch your dick until you find True Love, having hot monkey sex lots and lots of times for several years, breaking up, and then letting your dick rot for a few more years until you find True Love again is not good for the prostate at all. Your body is set up for regular ejaculations, and yes, masturbation counts. (No, I don't have a recommended ejaculation frequency.)
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Sunday, 20 March 2011 14:13 (thirteen years ago) link
The common American sex pattern of not touching your dick or letting anyone else touch your dick until you find True Love, having hot monkey sex lots and lots of times for several years, breaking up, and then letting your dick rot for a few more years until you find True Love
I don't know if this is accurate...
― corey, Sunday, 20 March 2011 14:17 (thirteen years ago) link
I should have said "traditional", not "common." That's really what I meant.
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Sunday, 20 March 2011 14:22 (thirteen years ago) link
ah, that makes sense
― corey, Sunday, 20 March 2011 14:24 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm really glad that the stigma against masturbation is much, much less than it once was.
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Sunday, 20 March 2011 14:26 (thirteen years ago) link
well, once the priests started offering it instead of penance instead of three hail mary's.......
― the '' key on my keybord is not working (darraghmac), Sunday, 20 March 2011 14:45 (thirteen years ago) link
...offering to give all the little boys personal private lessons in how to do it?
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Sunday, 20 March 2011 22:39 (thirteen years ago) link