Gregory Bateson Sentences

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emulation of 1962 Spacewar videogame running on PDP-1 - http://www.masswerk.at/spacewar/index.html

Milton Parker, Thursday, 13 June 2013 20:40 (ten years ago) link

[From Brand's Cybernetic Frontiers:]

The classic Bind. "Tell me you love me." "I love you." "Why do you only say that when I ask you?" The bouquet is elicited and then destroyed.

Gregory: "Then there is the more subtle case in which the rug is not switched. Shall we say a loving action is insisted upon by the recipient. The case in which A makes a spontaneous affectionate move towards B, and B grabs it. Which remarkably quickly destroys the relationship. Because the message is delivered into the frame in which it had to be delivered, it becomes a meaningless message. It doesn't mean any more than the smile of the porpoise, which smiles because he can't change his face."

I can hear it. "Tell me you love me." "I love you." "Thankyou." The bouquet, by being elicited, dismisses itself.

Milton Parker, Thursday, 13 June 2013 23:52 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

related

http://pespmc1.vub.ac.be/ASC/ANTICOMMUNI.html

Milton Parker, Friday, 12 September 2014 23:21 (nine years ago) link

hahahah I wondered if you were going to post that here.

sarahell, Friday, 12 September 2014 23:29 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

Long ago, in 1949, when psychiatrists still believed in lobotomy, I was a new member of the staff of the Veterans Administration Mental Hospital at Palo Alto. One day one of the residents called me aside to see the blackboard in our largest classroom. A lobotomy meeting had been held there that afternoon and the board was still unerased.

This was thirty years ago, of course, and nothing of the sort could happen today, but in those days lobotomy meetings were great social occasions. Everybody who had had anything to do with case turned up -- doctors, nurses, social workers, psychologists, and so on. Perhaps thirty or forty people were there, including the five-man "Lobotomy Committee," under the chairmanship of an outside examiner, a distinguished psychiatrist from another hospital.

When all the tests and reports had been presented, the patient was brought in to be interviewed by the outside commissioner.

The examiner gave the patient a piece of chalk and told him, "Draw the figure of a man." The patient went obediently to the blackboard and wrote: DRAW THE FIGURE OF A MAN

The examiner said, "Don't write it. Draw it." And again the patient wrote: DON'T WRITE IT DRAW IT

The examiner said, "Oh, I give up." This time the patient revised the definition of the context, which he had already used to assert a kind of freedom, and wrote in large capital letters all across the blackboard:

VICTORY

Milton Parker, Thursday, 30 October 2014 21:48 (nine years ago) link

I love this thread

sarahell, Thursday, 30 October 2014 21:53 (nine years ago) link

six months pass...

Gregory Bateson PDFs

http://www.radicalsoftware.org/volume1nr3/pdf/VOLUME1NR3_art02.pdf

Milton Parker, Saturday, 2 May 2015 21:02 (nine years ago) link


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