BFI Film Classics/BFI Modern Classics: Search and Destroy

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Those inexpensive little books about individual films, written by a wide variety of critics. Some are spectacular, some are awful, some are a bit of both. Obviously I haven't read all of them, but of the ones I know...

Search: 42nd Street by J. Hoberman, Don't Look Now by Mark Sanderson, Vertigo by Charles Barr, City of Sandess by Berenice Reynaud, Das Cabinet des Dr. Caligari by David Robinson, Yuri Tsivian's Ivan the Terrible, Dilwale Dulhania Le Jayenge by Anupama Chopra, W.R.--Mysteries of the Organism by Raymond Durgnat, The Wings of a Dove by Robin Wood

Destroy: The Birds by Camille Paglia, Meet me in St. Louis by Gerald Kaufman, The Manchurian Candidate by Greil Marcus, Mother India by Gayatri Chatterjee, Rio Bravo by Robin Wood, Shadows by Ray Carney, Blade Runner by Scott Bukatman, The Three Colors Trilogy by Geoff Andrew

Search and destroy: Independence Day by Michael Rogin, L'Argent by Kent Jones

amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 21 May 2003 16:29 (twenty years ago) link

i haven't read any, cause they're actually sorta pricey over here. a professor i had (who used to be the director of the BFI, i think) wrote the book on performance so i've always wanted to read that one.

j fail (cenotaph), Wednesday, 21 May 2003 18:16 (twenty years ago) link

You were taught by Colin MacCabe? I'm generally allergic to his writing but he did produce Terence Davies's films and for that he wins immortality.

amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 21 May 2003 18:24 (twenty years ago) link

yeah. the class was actualy on james joyce and ulysses. to say that he was the most amazing teacher i've ever had wouldn't really be exaggerating. his personality was amazing too.

j fail (cenotaph), Wednesday, 21 May 2003 18:41 (twenty years ago) link

I quite enjoyed the Dead Man book, but found myself wanting MORE.

Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Wednesday, 21 May 2003 18:49 (twenty years ago) link

the one for Eyes Wide Shut is fascinating, but im not sure it really comes to any conclusions

ryan (ryan), Wednesday, 21 May 2003 23:16 (twenty years ago) link

I didn't have any problem with Paglia's Birds interpretations, other than her occasional coquettry of feminism.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 22 May 2003 04:59 (twenty years ago) link

seven months pass...
No one has told me what's so fucking bad about Camille Paglia's Birds analysis.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Sunday, 18 January 2004 07:05 (twenty years ago) link

Colin MacCabe is a LEGEND! His new Godard biography rocks bells.

Search Durgnat on 'W. R. Mysteries of the Organism'. Durgnat is my favourite film writer and this is among his best. I love MacCabe's too. Thomson on 'The Big Sleep' is a bit lazy but still worthwhile.

Destroy: the one on 'Red River'. I wasn't taken with Mulvey on 'Citizen Kane' either.

I'm very excited by V. F. Perkins on 'Rules of the Game' (dropping June).

Enrique (Enrique), Monday, 19 January 2004 11:14 (twenty years ago) link

maccabe always expresses himself in hyperbole which annoys me

amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 19 January 2004 12:21 (twenty years ago) link

Amateur!st, you're a smart guy and I love that, but I'm starting to only know you through your dislikes, which is unfortunate. I need a snap list right now of things that do not annoy you please.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 19 January 2004 14:49 (twenty years ago) link

why don't you look at the first post on this thread?

amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 19 January 2004 15:14 (twenty years ago) link

you know that's not what i'm talking about.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 19 January 2004 16:09 (twenty years ago) link

well i cant really answer to a criticism like that. i don't really care what my "profile" is to some stranger, but if you'd like you can find plenty of things i profess to adore all over ilx

amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 19 January 2004 18:20 (twenty years ago) link

Fine. It was just a simple request. Strangers we'll remain.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 19 January 2004 23:20 (twenty years ago) link

I would look for the things you profess to adore all over ilx, but I keep stumbling onto things you hate, are allergic to, annoyed by, etc...

For once, I was trying hard not to approach you as if you were not predisposed to spewing vitriol against something or other. Won't happen again thanks.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 19 January 2004 23:27 (twenty years ago) link

The only one I have is Paglia's The Birds. It's good, but I was expecting more insight and personal opinion rather than just a scene-by-scene description. One thing that stuck out is her going completly against the tide of opinion re Tippi Hedren's performance; she practically fawns over her.

Sean (Sean), Monday, 19 January 2004 23:28 (twenty years ago) link

Alright, after coming back, I realize what I was trying to get at was (at best) a backhanded compliment on the order of "for a fat chick, your wife doesn't look half bad." We'll say I respect your intelligence more than I let on and leave it at that.

Now... yes, Paglia seems to be playing the devil's advocate card rather too often during the Birds monograph (and she would do well to realize that Marnie has a far better performance by Hedren in the first place), but I'm not as bothered by the scene-by-scene examination as others. What I could've used a bit more of was production-details and explicit critical readings. But, hey, I like-a da variety within the series.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 00:19 (twenty years ago) link

i liked paglia's "birds" a lot too - it's certainly not as annoying as some of her other work, and most of her analysis is pretty spot-on.

richard corliss's book on "lolita" is kind of interesting - it's written as a parody of "pale fire." it's not half as good as pauline kael's review of the movie, but it's a good read.

agreed about robin wood's "rio bravo," that book is TERRIBLE.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 05:18 (twenty years ago) link

I just perused sections of Paglia again and I think it's a decent companion piece. A fetishy book for a fetishy film.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 05:43 (twenty years ago) link

jesus christ eric h just look at my thin red line thread or something

i really shouldn't have to answer to a caricature

amateur!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 11:15 (twenty years ago) link

jesus christ amateurist I apologized and retracted wtf?

you said this on some other music thread:

i think i've been pretty useless, and i'm sure most would agree. i don't know how one would gauge usefulness anyhow. i sort of post to get things off my chest more than to make "contribution."

Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 13:21 (twenty years ago) link

that's called modesty

laisse-le tomber

amateur!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 13:47 (twenty years ago) link

three years pass...

greil marcus's "manchurian candidate" is great, easily the best book from this series i've read thus far.

J.D., Monday, 20 August 2007 09:15 (sixteen years ago) link

have they done one on If.... ?

Dr Morbius, Monday, 20 August 2007 21:22 (sixteen years ago) link

I assume you're joking, Morbs, but in case you're not

C0L1N B..., Tuesday, 21 August 2007 02:31 (sixteen years ago) link

roffle :)

Eric H., Tuesday, 21 August 2007 02:43 (sixteen years ago) link

I look pretty idiotic on this thread (among all the others).

Eric H., Tuesday, 21 August 2007 02:44 (sixteen years ago) link

bfi is cutting this series out i heard, axing their publishing group or something

gershy, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 05:32 (sixteen years ago) link

I wasn't joking, Colin, as I buy very few $20 96-page books.

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 13:52 (sixteen years ago) link

ie I haven't read any of these and ain't burning to.

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 13:53 (sixteen years ago) link

ie fuck critics.

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 13:53 (sixteen years ago) link

(sorry, I'm having a bad week)

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 15:17 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh, I just thought you might be joking because the author of the If... book is ILX's own Mark S.

C0L1N B..., Tuesday, 21 August 2007 17:38 (sixteen years ago) link

I look pretty idiotic on this thread (among all the others).

-- Eric H., Tuesday, August 21, 2007 3:44 AM (15 hours ago) Bookmark Link

aye me to :/

gershy -- yeah quite possibly. the britishes film institute had its funding frozen by the govt for a few years and weird shit happened within the institute (ie they fucked the dog on a building project), so the publishing arm has been/is being sold to another publisher, palgrave-macmillan.

i don't know if they'll end the series: i'd imagine it's one of their more profitable lines rly.

http://www.bfiwatch.blogspot.com/

bfi is such a big deal in uk film publishing that everyone has an angle. from personal experience some shit along these lines was in the offing over two years ago.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 17:58 (sixteen years ago) link

ILX's own Mark S.

:o ! I don't know who a lot of ppl are around here.

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 19:02 (sixteen years ago) link

four years pass...

I never bumped this thread after reading the NotLD one, but that's at the top of my list now. Kind of curious to see how reactionary the Star Wars and Back to the Future ones get.

Björk lied (Eric H.), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 13:08 (eleven years ago) link

lol the star wars one is written by the brother of a 'well-known' ilxor, to add to the incestuous nature of this thread.

agree that the NOTLD one is really gd, and (from the recent(ish) list) so are the 2001 and Invasion of the Body Snatchers volumes. funnily enough, it was mark s who recommended the michel chion one on Eyes Wide Shut, which (along w/ the Durgnat) is my fave of the ones I've read.

Dud = Kim Newman's Cat People one, which is basically a glorified plot recap, v. disappointing (newman's bfi bk on doctor who is much better)

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 13:29 (eleven years ago) link

A well-done plot recap can be a great frame on which to hang a bunch of criticism tho. Not saying Newman's is (haven't read).

Björk lied (Eric H.), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 13:50 (eleven years ago) link

Biggest pitfall of this series is, imo, a writer I like tackling a movie I don't.

Björk lied (Eric H.), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 13:50 (eleven years ago) link

i dunno, plot recaps mostly feel p redundant these days (guess they made more sense when ppl cldn't access the texts digitally or whatever) tho of course they can work in certain cases. def one of the strengths of the BFI series is the way that they take in different styles/schools of critical whatsit

Biggest pitfall of this series is, imo, a writer I like tackling a movie I don't.

absolutely, christopher frayling's book on Shape of Things to Come is exemplary, but the film itself is a total bore, and I'm not that fussed abt 42nd Street, either (sorry j hobe).

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 13:56 (eleven years ago) link

I guess the flip would be, say, Camille Paglia writing about The Birds (a match I still say paid off in this case).

Björk lied (Eric H.), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 13:59 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Man, the Greil Marcus Manchurian volume has some crazy scathing reviews over at Amazon.

old people are made of poop (Eric H.), Monday, 18 June 2012 14:53 (eleven years ago) link

weird -- i liked marcus's book and didn't think his approach was that unusual.

kind of interested in reading 'shadows' by ray carney if only because carney is such a uniquely peculiar critic.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 18 June 2012 21:25 (eleven years ago) link

Ordered the Durgnat bk, can't wait to read it.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 30 June 2012 10:14 (eleven years ago) link

four months pass...

Found Mark Kermode's Exorcist monograph last night and am tearing through it today.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Thursday, 1 November 2012 13:49 (eleven years ago) link

lol

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Thursday, 1 November 2012 13:49 (eleven years ago) link

he is the living end

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Thursday, 1 November 2012 13:49 (eleven years ago) link

LOL, so you're saying I should literally tear through it with a knife?

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Thursday, 1 November 2012 13:50 (eleven years ago) link

Oh right ... he's the guy who puts Exorcist and Mary Poppins on his BFI ballot: http://explore.bfi.org.uk/sightandsoundpolls/2012/voter/344

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Thursday, 1 November 2012 13:51 (eleven years ago) link

god he is like the bbc's 'film person' even though he is pretty much third rate provincial eng lit lecturer with passable tv skills and seems to have no knowledge of anything except imdb staples and a bit of 50-80s 'cult'/horror

his segment about stalker with geoff dyer was some sort of nadir

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Thursday, 1 November 2012 13:54 (eleven years ago) link

Love that this book has had three editions already.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Thursday, 1 November 2012 13:59 (eleven years ago) link

tho' i pretty much agree w/ Nilmar, have to say that Kermode's Exorcist bk is p gd as a production history of the film, and obv benefits from the access he enjoyed to friedkin, blatty etc

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 1 November 2012 14:07 (eleven years ago) link

Absolutely love the Durgnat book.

To be read alongside this piece on Jancso's Red Psalm.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 2 November 2012 22:52 (eleven years ago) link

ten months pass...

Only just now found out they're releasing a whole bunch of horror-related monographs later this fall (strangely one week too late for Halloween): http://us.macmillan.com/series/BFIFilmClassics

midnight outdoor nude frolic up north goes south (Eric H.), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 14:35 (ten years ago) link

No one mentioned Night of the Hunter?

I Am the Cosimo Code (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 14:50 (ten years ago) link

They're tying these horror-related titles into a larger BFI 'Gothic' season which incorporates UK-wide screenings, dvds, talks etc etc. Newman's Cat People has been issued before, and I think the Caligari one as well. Def want to read Frayling's The Innocents - his commentary track on the BFI Region 2 DVD of the movie might be the best I've ever heard.

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 18:29 (ten years ago) link

seven months pass...

Its the kind of tip I live for so I'll give it: Londoners should know that quite a few of these are going at 3 quid a pop at the BFI shop.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 21:18 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

London Live (Freeview channel 8)
Saturday 18th July 2015

19:00 - 19:15
BFI London: Festival in London
Record of the 1951 South Bank Exhibition and the Battersea Pleasure Gardens.

19:15 - 19:30
BFI London: The Fairy of the Phone
Musical comedy based on instructions given in the London telephone directory.

19:30 - 19:45
BFI London: Nice Time
Impressions of Piccadilly Circus on a Saturday night in 1957.

19:45 - 20:00
BFI London: London Can Take It!
London Can Take It! is the most renowned cinematic representation of the resilient heroism of ordinary Londoners during the early days of the Blitz.

koogs, Friday, 17 July 2015 20:36 (eight years ago) link

(same channel has been showing ealing b-movies as matinees. http://www.londonlive.co.uk/schedule/category/films )

koogs, Friday, 17 July 2015 20:45 (eight years ago) link


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