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I not going to say it was "just updated" because i got in trouble for saying that last time, but there are new "coming soons" on the Criterion web page...

...including Godard's "A Woman is a Woman"!!!!!

now if only they'll do "Weekend"....

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Sunday, 4 April 2004 15:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I have been wishing for a Chris Marker set myself (i've seen very little of his stuff)

ryan (ryan), Sunday, 4 April 2004 15:40 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm waiting patiently for the eisenstein silents set and a dvd of 'au hasard balthazar'

amateur!st (amateurist), Sunday, 4 April 2004 15:46 (seventeen years ago) link

A Marker set would be incredible & would be a nice continuation of Criterion's embrace of experimental shorts, started with the "By Brakhage" collection.

I would love to see a collection of Jem Cohen's films released by Criterion, but I'm certainly not holding my breath.

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Monday, 5 April 2004 00:49 (seventeen years ago) link

au hasard was playing at the music box last week, i was speechless.

todd swiss (eliti), Monday, 5 April 2004 02:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I can't wait for the Battle of Algiers release that should be soon enough.

Once again, I refer you all to the wonderfully great Criterion messageboard of

Girolamo Savonarola, Monday, 5 April 2004 02:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Try that...

Girolamo Savonarola, Monday, 5 April 2004 02:49 (seventeen years ago) link

its reached easier at fyi

todd swiss (eliti), Monday, 5 April 2004 04:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Thanks for the tip...that makes things so much eaiser.

Girolamo Savonarola, Monday, 5 April 2004 14:12 (seventeen years ago) link

the problem with criterion is that i am always tempted to buy them even if i dont like or havent seen the movie because the packaging is so nice.

ryan (ryan), Monday, 5 April 2004 17:34 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, but you really can't go wrong--nearly everything they release is golden.

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Monday, 5 April 2004 21:13 (seventeen years ago) link

that reminds me, is The Leopard any good? because i have pre-ordered it already!

ryan (ryan), Monday, 5 April 2004 22:11 (seventeen years ago) link

<em>au hasard was playing at the music box last week, i was speechless. </em>

I just ordered my copy - $18. on DVD-R. Natch. - along with a copy of <em> F is for Fake </em> from

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 02:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Bad, bad HTML skills.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 02:49 (seventeen years ago) link

The Leopard is amazing! Burt Lancaster's is one of the classic performance.s It is, however, very long and even more difficult to follow than The Big Sleep.

Chuck Tatum (Chuck Tatum), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 18:01 (seventeen years ago) link

watch "last year at marienbad" and nothing will be hard to follow afterwards... except for subsequent viewings of "last year at marienbad"

todd swiss (eliti), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 05:24 (seventeen years ago) link

your em tags are just fine and would have worked up until a month or so ago when in the face of html abuse they also disabled any number of legitimate standards-compliant tags too.

andrew s (andrew s), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 16:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Au Hasard Balthazar will be out in Criterion before the year is out.

Weekend is owned by New Yorker films but no plans for a DVD have been made. It may come on Region 2 at some point.

Rashomon, Friday, 16 April 2004 23:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I got the Floating Weeds DVDs today, yay.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Friday, 16 April 2004 23:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, I bought that as well -- also grabbed 3 Women -- I can't wait to watch it!

BabyBuddha (BabyBuddha), Saturday, 17 April 2004 05:01 (seventeen years ago) link

could someone explain to me why criterion collection dvds cost so much?! even the single discs can be 40 bucks. im missing something, i know it.

tom cleveland (tom cleveland), Saturday, 17 April 2004 20:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Not many sold per title, lots of extras, costs of transfer and cleaning.

And because they can - they've got the name and the identity to hook in film geeks, where else are you going to turn, New Yorker?

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Sunday, 18 April 2004 01:42 (seventeen years ago) link

They're really not $40, that's just the MSRP. Most of them go for just a bit more than you'd probably want to pay for an average, if you know where to look. I highly recommend DVD Price Search - but if you want to take the short route, usually Deep Discount DVD tends to the have the best prices on Criterions (and free shipping to boot!).

Girolamo Savonarola, Sunday, 18 April 2004 02:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Rumor at those Criterion forums, though, seems to indicate Criterion is gently phasing out their $29/$39 pricing patterns and easing into an appalling $39/$49 structure (which explains their rather excessive double-disc sets lately). If this turns out to be true, I'm afraid I'll have to put my foot down and refuse to buy more than one a month from these people.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Sunday, 18 April 2004 06:31 (seventeen years ago) link

alright alright. this ones a little harder:
why does Armageddon have its own criterion version?

tom cleveland (tom cleveland), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 02:01 (seventeen years ago) link

why does Armageddon have its own criterion version?

I haven't seen it, but supposedly it was aimed at the special effects mavens out there. Also I recall reading an interview with one of the Criterion folks who said that the revenues from the Armageddon allowed them to fund a lot of other less-popular titles.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 03:51 (seventeen years ago) link

balthazar getty needs some $$$$$$$ give it to him now luv me.

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 06:23 (seventeen years ago) link

There's a salon interview with Criterion's Peter Becker that directly addresses the Armageddon question. (Which 2 dvd set, by the way, I have and it's great. I love the movie though.)

Here's just the start of the relevant section:

Specifically, with "Armageddon": You'd be silly to overlook blockbusters as a genre and leave them out of a film library. They drive so much. They drive tastes and shooting styles and visual references that appear all over the world in commercials and on TV as well as on movie screens. They're part of a huge cultural cross-pollination. And special effects are one of the most important aspects of a certain kind of contemporary filmmaking.

andrew s (andrew s), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 18:33 (seventeen years ago) link

How true is that today? I can't think of the last Armageddon-esque blockbuster that visually influential on film/tv/commercials (incl. Armageddon).

Is The Rock Criterion still in print? I'd much rather have that than Armageddon.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 19:22 (seventeen years ago) link

The Rock criterion is still available. When I think of visually influential blockbusters (for good or ill), I have trouble getting past The Matrix. The interview is like 4 years old now, but he has more to say following that though. Part of me wishes the answer had simply been "just to piss you off" though.

Those were the days when you actually got your $140 million dollars worth out of your production budget.

andrew s (andrew s), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 19:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I forgot about the Matrix (and don't think of it as a blockbuster in the Independence Day mold, didn't it kind of come out of nowhere?), that would be one.

I miss the days when a budget topping $80mln was big news and a reason to go see the film. Now that barely buys you a romantic comedy.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 21:18 (seventeen years ago) link

thats because the romantic sunsent that juxtaposes meg ryan's silhouette at the end has to be done in CGI by ILM.

tom cleveland (tom cleveland), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 00:17 (seventeen years ago) link

In regards to blockbuster films influencing TV commercial/music video styles (re: "Armaggedon"), I think in the majority of instances that it's the other way around. Michel Gondry and Chris Cunningham being a good example, and Mark Romanek's early NIN videos were a huge influence on David Fincher when he made "Seven". In my experience, true innovation usually comes from the avant-garde/indie/short format arenas, simply because it's easier to take risks on a short or cheap project than a studio produced narrative feature.

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 22:25 (seventeen years ago) link

but does that innovation ever really catch on to be something bigger? it doesnt quite seem possible these days (in any sort of creative endeavor).

tom cleveland (tom cleveland), Thursday, 22 April 2004 02:37 (seventeen years ago) link

personally i prefer dvds with a good transfer of the film and few if any bonus, presuming that this way they would be priced a bit lower. but criterion has a big network of fans who like exactly what they do, and purchase accordingly. there are a number of criterion titles i'd like to buy if i had the money, and should i ever have the money i will buy them. but for now i'll stick to the more inexpensive titles. sometimes the bfi in the uk or studiocanal in france will release the same titles for a cheaper sticker price, with fewer extras.

amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 22 April 2004 16:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't think I've watched the extras on 95% of the DVDs I own. A funny commentary here and there, but that's about it.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 22 April 2004 19:11 (seventeen years ago) link

absolutely. the idea of extras is a lot more interesting than actually sitting through a thousand production photos. commentaries and perhaps documentaries are about the extent of my interest.

ryan (ryan), Thursday, 22 April 2004 21:01 (seventeen years ago) link

"but does that innovation ever really catch on to be something bigger? it doesnt quite seem possible these days (in any sort of creative endeavor). "

it depends on how you look at it. it my mind, there's no need for it to necessarily become somethi@5{te the suggestion that short films/music videos/avant-garde & experimental work are just a "warm-up" for a feature length narrative. it's kind of absurd to but a limitation of film that it has to be 90-180 minutes long with actors, dialogue & a plot. at least 50% of my favorite cinematic works don't fit into the categorization, and whenever i hear about people complaining about a lack of innovation in film, it's usually because all they watch are feature length narratives.

but as for the idea of the innovation in these works not "catching on" in the mainstream, you simply have to look around you to see their influence: magazines, billboards, popular films and music, even architecture. it's everywhere, and most of the good, innovative feature filmmakers will be the first to admit that they've been influenced by someone like michel gondry, spike jonze, jem cohen, etc.

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Thursday, 22 April 2004 21:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Battle of Algiers confirmed on the main page. Yay!

Girolamo Savonarola, Thursday, 22 April 2004 21:37 (seventeen years ago) link

And holy shit, three discs?!?!?

Girolamo Savonarola, Thursday, 22 April 2004 21:37 (seventeen years ago) link

haha, was just going to make a post about that on a separate thread but whatev.

two words: HOLY SHIT.

joseph (joseph), Friday, 23 April 2004 20:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Like I said... I'd expect these three-disc sets to become something of a norm. This is the third in the space of a half year, whereas the first roughly five years of Criterion DVDs brought only one (Brazil).

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 23 April 2004 23:57 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...

ryan (ryan), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 04:48 (sixteen years ago) link

and Videdrome! It's good to see that Criterion has been adding more focus on contemporary works lately.

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 10:20 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...
can i just say that The Leopard is fucking awesome. thanks.

ryan (ryan), Friday, 6 August 2004 19:25 (sixteen years ago) link

newest ones include "eyes without a face"!

a spectator bird (a spectator bird), Friday, 6 August 2004 21:44 (sixteen years ago) link

(i'm happy to see more $29.95s in this latest batch, because they've been getting too rich for my blood. i'll definitely pick up "eyes" for that price, however, and probably "tanner '88".)

a spectator bird (a spectator bird), Friday, 6 August 2004 21:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Is I, Vitelloni worth buying sight unseen? (For someone who luvs neo-realism and Dazed & Confused)

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Saturday, 7 August 2004 14:27 (sixteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
short cuts two-disc set (with reprint of the carver book!) and the fanny and alexander two- AND five-disc sets coming out in november (like with scenes from a marriage, the television and theatrical versions are both getting a release).

so rejoice, damn you.

joseph (joseph), Friday, 27 August 2004 21:25 (sixteen years ago) link

six months pass...
burden of dreams, hoop dreams, the phantom of liberty set to come out in may.

joseph (joseph), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 06:53 (sixteen years ago) link

i noticed that amazon has matched the sale prices of everything ive looked up so far, i assume for today only - do they normally do that? i wonder if thats why criterion sent out that $10 coupon, to keep people on the site.

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 20:09 (two months ago) link

WB Shop is having what sounds like their final 4 for $44 Warner Archives sale in a couple weeks

Does ILX have a catch-all "boutique home video" thread somewhere? I'd find that pretty useful now that I have a region-free 4K player and am finally digging into more Arrow/Indicator/etc.

avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 20:11 (two months ago) link

finally own a DVD copy of Notorious.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 20:15 (two months ago) link

just went to the website for the Canadian CC distributor to see if anything was happening today and now I'm...#753 in line

rob, Tuesday, 23 February 2021 20:19 (two months ago) link

I did that earlier, then found the few things I was after were either pre-orders or out of stock :/

stimmy stimmy yah (Simon H.), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 20:29 (two months ago) link

I suspect I'm in the same boat (Touki Bouki is the only thing I can immediately think of that I want), though maybe I'll see how much upgrading my Sturges dvds would cost

that said I am very pleased that Unobstructed View exists and I don't have to use amazon

rob, Tuesday, 23 February 2021 20:33 (two months ago) link

Ok, splurged on that Bruce Lee box set. Couldn't resist this time.

Nhex, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 05:20 (two months ago) link

the art on that put me off even considering it. Ugly ass cover. Don't get me started on Godzilla.

flappy bird, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 05:39 (two months ago) link

Going through the third Scorsese World Film Foundation box and those things are the best case for the continued existence of the label imo: so far I've seen Dos Monjes (Mexico, campy 30's melodrama bathed in expressionism with a truly bonkers ending), After The Curfew (Indonesia, amazing film about post-war malaise and PTSD that any noir fan should enjoy) and Pixote (Brazil, probably the roughest social realist film I've seen from the modern era; Brazilian music geeks take note that Toni Tornado has a cameo).

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 11:03 (two months ago) link

umm Paramount is pulling their Criterion shit w/o warning to take to Paramount+

first on the chopping block:

Harold & Maude
La Dolce Vita
Rosemary's Baby
Days Of Heaven

and something else awesome that I forget

grab the discs now if you want 'em

I like signing up to dead sites (sleeve), Monday, 8 March 2021 04:11 (two months ago) link

The Friends of Eddie Coyle, and Don't Look Now. Bad news

flappy bird, Monday, 8 March 2021 06:02 (two months ago) link

wait, like pulling them from Criterion Channel, or pulling the rights for Criterion to sell discs????

Warmed Regards, (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 8 March 2021 13:44 (two months ago) link

Probably yes(?) and the corresponding discs are now OOP.

Evan, Monday, 8 March 2021 17:01 (two months ago) link

A poster on Criterion Forum emailed the company, and they confirmed the five titles sleeve listed plus Don't Look Now are going OOP. However, the CC La dolce vita will remain available as part of the Fellini box.

They also said there weren't any plans for other Paramount titles to go OOP right now.

I think part of this is happening because Paramount is playing their own new editions of a few of those titles, and probably angling to add all six to Paramount+.

"what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 8 March 2021 23:43 (two months ago) link


"what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 8 March 2021 23:44 (two months ago) link

FWIW, I don't see Paramount making a move on more esoteric titles like Eddie Coyle or, say, If.... or Downhill Racer or Ace In The Hole.

"what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 8 March 2021 23:47 (two months ago) link

Eddie Coyle is currently listed as unavailable in both DVD and Blu-ray form on the Criterion site, which differs from Nashville, Harold & Maude, et al, which are all now listed as Out of Print. So maybe they are just out of stock on it. the other three you listed all seem to be unaffected though.

Judi Dench's Human Hand (methanietanner), Monday, 8 March 2021 23:53 (two months ago) link

Probably just a coincidence exacerbated by rumors going around that it too was also going OOP, and collectors and/or speculators snatching up copies.

"what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 9 March 2021 02:13 (two months ago) link

yeah I just grabbed one for "normal price," seems like it is. then again it was worth waiting for Salo to come back into print this year

flappy bird, Tuesday, 9 March 2021 07:19 (two months ago) link

I've been hearing rumors about Medium Cool and (from an unrelated rights owner) Belle de Jour as well, but idk how seriously to take them. Sucks either way if you care about the physical presentation of the film, which Paramount very obviously do not:

You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Tuesday, 9 March 2021 15:46 (two months ago) link

wow. that is not a good cover.

Nhex, Tuesday, 9 March 2021 15:49 (two months ago) link

a wacky comedy about two giant people who have to learn to live in a normal sized house

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 9 March 2021 16:03 (two months ago) link


I was curious about Medium Cool. it's been unavailable on Blu Ray for a while, maybe even over a year?

flappy bird, Tuesday, 9 March 2021 17:51 (two months ago) link

So not "out of print" like Nashville et al. but "CURRENTLY UNAVAILABLE" like Eddie Coyle

flappy bird, Tuesday, 9 March 2021 17:52 (two months ago) link

I can't find the post now, but there was another CriterionForum user reckoning that "Currently Unavailable" just means between pressings, and it's happening with more titles because of Covid-related issues at pressing plants, where priority is given to new titles and repressing for the time being is reserved for faster sellers. A relatively obscure title like Medium Cool just isn't a priority for them right now.

"what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 10 March 2021 22:23 (two months ago) link

JUNE: Pariah; Streetwise/Tiny: The Life of Erin Blackwell; The Signifyin' Works of Marlon Riggs; Visions of Eight; and upgrades of Pickup On South Street and The Human Condition Trilogy.

"what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 15 March 2021 16:57 (one month ago) link

Good news about Streetwise. I remember renting a creaky VHS copy for the ILX '80s filmpoll back in the day.

"what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 15 March 2021 16:59 (one month ago) link

Yeah I caught that at a rep screening in September 2019. Great, great movie. Excited to see the follow-up.

flappy bird, Monday, 15 March 2021 18:09 (one month ago) link

You can get the Medium Cool blu-ray at Barnes and Noble if you don't mind paying MSRP. I'm going to email Criterion and ask what's up with that title in particular; they're usually pretty forthcoming when asked.

You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Monday, 15 March 2021 18:37 (one month ago) link

Also, it's happening less now since they're mostly finished, but if a title was released during the period when blu-rays were released in dual format (bundled with a DVD), they would go temporarily OOP while they were repackaged as blu-ray only.

You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Monday, 15 March 2021 18:37 (one month ago) link

That's exciting news about Streetwise, I've been wanting to see that for decades.

Stefan Twerkelle (Old Lunch), Monday, 15 March 2021 20:04 (one month ago) link

I'd never heard of Pariah but the clip on the Criterion site looks gorgeous

rob, Monday, 15 March 2021 20:12 (one month ago) link

"Hi Ryan,
Thank you for writing to us!

MEDIUM COOL Blu-rays are due to be available again on our site the mid April:
The title is not due to be out of print.

As a note, any time that we sell out of a film and we still have the distribution rights for it, we will always produce more inventory. You'll know a title is due to be restocked in the future when you see "Currently Unavailable" or "On Back-order" on the film's page. Titles that have sold out and for which we no longer hold the rights will be designated as "Out of Print" (OOP).

As I think you're aware, the following titles recently went out of print for us due to licensing:

As usual, if we should ever recover the rights to any of our out-of-print titles, we will happily re-release them.
We do not typically disclose things that are about to go out of print, but I can assure you that there is nothing else in our catalog that is due to be OOP in the near future.

That said, obviously if there's something you've had an eye on, it's always a good idea to purchase it sooner than later, as we do not announce upcoming OOP status or packaging changes.

Hope this puts your mind at ease but please let us know if you have any other questions or concerns.


You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 18:52 (one month ago) link

really glad I snagged a Harold & Maude from B&N right after this went down

I like signing up to dead sites (sleeve), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 22:18 (one month ago) link

I don't know if I'm ever going to stop kicking myself for selling my Chungking Express disc right before the particulars of the Wong Kar-Wai box set were announced >_<

You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 19:04 (one month ago) link

Stopped at the Tupelo B&N today while running errands and snagged their last (only) La Dolce Vita blu. I don't even like Fellini -- I may leave it sealed and try to flip it for $$$ at some point.

Motoroller Scampotron (WmC), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 21:20 (one month ago) link

WKW thing comes out today !

calstars, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 21:23 (one month ago) link

caught streetwise / tiny double feature early last year and I think of different things from streetwise all the time

Bongo Jongus, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 21:26 (one month ago) link

like the prisoner dad at his son's open casket funeral and in that moment he mainly just wants to drink soda

Bongo Jongus, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 21:27 (one month ago) link

three weeks pass...

July: La Piscine, Bringing Up Baby, Deep Cover, Working Girls, and...Mirror!!!

You Can't Have the Woogie Without a Little Boogie (Old Lunch), Thursday, 15 April 2021 16:11 (three weeks ago) link

Their last two months' slates seem to indicate they took that NYT article from last year to heart. Good!

avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Thursday, 15 April 2021 16:33 (three weeks ago) link

I know it's not universally beloved around here (xpost ;) but I am very excited they're doing BUB

The cover of Deep Cover is awesome, but I don't remember that being particularly good. It has been a long time though: it's quite possible I saw it on VHS

rob, Thursday, 15 April 2021 18:53 (three weeks ago) link

Bringing Up Baby and Mirror have been expected for years, right?

flappy bird, Thursday, 15 April 2021 19:28 (three weeks ago) link

I keep waiting in vain for Trouble in Paradise to get an upgrade, gahdamn glaring hole in my Lubitch collection, grumble grumble

You Can't Have the Woogie Without a Little Boogie (Old Lunch), Thursday, 15 April 2021 20:02 (three weeks ago) link

There must be a reason for that--I'd figure there's no way they would upgrade Heaven Can Wait before TIP if they had the option

rob, Thursday, 15 April 2021 20:10 (three weeks ago) link

There was just some discussion about upgrading Trouble In Paradise over on the Criterion Forum: apparently the elements were an issue, but technology has advanced enough that a restoration premiered in '18, and a European Blu is due in May.

blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 16 April 2021 03:10 (three weeks ago) link


assert (MatthewK), Friday, 16 April 2021 04:31 (three weeks ago) link

The cover of Deep Cover is awesome, but I don't remember that being particularly good. It has been a long time though: it's quite possible I saw it on VHS

I saw it recently and it's got that urban dystopia vibe that a lot of action films from that era have, bordering on horror in its OTTness. The twist I guess is that it inserts some pretty explicit black militant and leftist messages into that context. I've seen ppl try to reclaim it as a noir but eh, it has voiceover but just feels too operatic for the genre. A curio rather than a masterpiece imo but definitley worth seeing and at this stage I have little investment in Criterion only putting out masterpieces - impossible if they keep doing complete editions of directors anyway, no matter how canonical.

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 16 April 2021 08:48 (three weeks ago) link

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