Dontrelle Willis. . .

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Guess who's batting 7th tonight for the Marlins?

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 22 September 2005 22:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Bobby Crosby?

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 22 September 2005 22:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Jack McKeon?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 22 September 2005 22:52 (eighteen years ago) link

According to Elias Sports Bureau, the last pitcher to bat seventh or higher was Montreal's Steve Renko, who did it on Aug. 26, 1973, and went 2-for-3 against San Diego.

When Willis heard McKeon's plan, he said he was shocked.

``I couldn't believe it,'' he said. ``Seventh? I want the lineup card. I don't think anybody will believe that. I was nervous about it. I had fun. The guys were making fun of it, saying he would have me bat leadoff.''

He went 1-4 with a Sac.

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 23 September 2005 03:30 (eighteen years ago) link

the nationals should sign him to play shortstop

mookieproof (mookieproof), Friday, 23 September 2005 03:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Be sure to revive this around September Alex, increasing BAA and decliinng K/9 are not good trends!

Dontrelle Willis Career ERA:
Pre-Allstar 2.64
Post-Allstar 4.30

-- gygax! (gygax0...), June 24th, 2005.

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Friday, 23 September 2005 12:24 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm not sure what we're arguing about anymore!

Could it be agreed by all that Dontrelle:
1) occasionally pitches like "A GOD WTF"
2) tends to pitch more like "A GOD WTF" during the beginning of the season
3) struggles with bouts of inconsistency
4) is "good" (ie, a top 7 NL pitcher with lots of upside)
5) has the benefit of pitching in a pitchers' park

Because I think we're all on the same page if so!

-- gygax! (gygax0...), August 18th, 2005 1:38 PM. (gygax!)

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 23 September 2005 12:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Just thought, since September is almost over, I'd revive it. No further agenda.

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Friday, 23 September 2005 13:02 (eighteen years ago) link

He's getting slapped around a bit today but he's batting 8th.

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 23:09 (eighteen years ago) link

THREE FUCKING ERRORS. Jeez nice job helping the guy.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 23:16 (eighteen years ago) link

9 Runs, 5 Earned before he got pulled in the 4th.

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 23:54 (eighteen years ago) link

seven months pass...
Bad, bad managing today:

Dontrelle looks great through 6IP and about 90 pitches with Florida up 5-1... but then gets into trouble in the 7th at around 100 pitches with the game tied. Girardi then leaves him in for the 8th and he gives up a homer and then puts 2 guys before he gets taken out.

A Grand Total of 8 ERs which would have been 1-3 if he'd been taken out around 90-95 pitches. Is Florida's bullpen that bad?

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 00:39 (eighteen years ago) link

No, he's just been watching Joe Torre manage a bullpen for the last two years...

Jimmy Mod is a super idol of The MARS SPIRIT (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 01:25 (eighteen years ago) link

sorry, i meant to mention that he finished with 120 pitches thrown.

HI DERE MARKERRY PRIORSCHMIDTWOOD

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 01:33 (eighteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
Guess who's on the trading block?

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 15:55 (eighteen years ago) link

this is news?

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 16:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Apr. 15, 2006 - 10:04 a.m. ET
Owner Jeffrey Loria said Friday that rumors of the Marlins potentially trading Dontrelle Willis and Miguel Cabrera are "ridiculous."

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 16:04 (eighteen years ago) link

of course he would say that! he's such a trustworthy guy after all.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 16:24 (eighteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
The good Dontrelle Willis FINALLY made an appearance in the Bay Area (a ray of hope as SF is rumored to be in the D-Train hunt): a 6 hit/3BB/3K complete game.

PacBell/SBC/AT&T Park is home to his worst career splits which include a 1-2 record (in 4 starts), 9.00 ERA, 1.94 WHIP and a .322 BAA.

Those stats do not include the 03 NLDS playoffs where Dontrelle made a relief appearance at Pac Bell, giving up 2 hits and recording one out.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Monday, 12 June 2006 16:43 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Question for Marlins fans or stat-geeks:

Is Dontrelle's "poor performance" this season actually the result of Marlins mgmt. selling off their infield (cf, Brandon Webb in 2004)?

I guess I could look at his G:F ratio or BABIP-allowed, any other ways of validating this theory?

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 18:48 (seventeen years ago) link

To my knowledge, Ramirez/Uggla/Cabrera/Jacobs have been adequate infielders. Haven't checked the stats, though.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 19:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Ah-ha, that's what I meant to call the phenomenon: "Rookie Infielder Syndrome". Precisely what happened to Webb.

I read somewhere that Cabrera's defense this year ranks towards the bottom of the NL. Those other guys have bats, but as usually the case with infielders with big bats is that you give up a lot of D.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 19:40 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

:-(

Steve Shasta, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 00:07 (sixteen years ago) link

I wish I had him on my HACKING MASS team.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 00:15 (sixteen years ago) link

The last time I saw a pitcher this out of sync, it was the "staff" of my dad's slow-pitch softball team after having a few Ankiel.

Andy K, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 00:57 (sixteen years ago) link

I thought Hacking Mass was based off players expected to be good.

:-( otm

bnw, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 14:40 (sixteen years ago) link

It's based off players expected to be good by their organizations for little or no reason.

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 15:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah basically you want to pick players who are lousy, but who managers put out there every day (or every five days) anyway.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 16:10 (sixteen years ago) link

So Jason Kendall, Juan Pierre, Steve Trachsel, etc. . .

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 16:17 (sixteen years ago) link

Willis sent to class-A Lakeland.

Andy K, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 20:14 (sixteen years ago) link

trachsel was just dfa'd!

j.q higgins, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 20:17 (sixteen years ago) link

Part of me can't even believe Trachsel lasted this long.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 20:28 (sixteen years ago) link

The other part won't be surprised when the Reds pick him up and start him in place of Johnny Cueto.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 20:29 (sixteen years ago) link

Everything about Trachsel lasts way too long.

felicity, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 20:30 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah basically you want to pick players who are lousy, but who managers put out there every day (or every five days) anyway.

-- Alex in SF, Tuesday, June 10, 2008 4:10 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Link

Thought they factored in the previous season so what you really wanted is someone who dropped off the cliff (i.e. D-train has had problems for awhile), may be wrong though. Verlander would have been a good pick unless he has righted himself recently.

bnw, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 20:37 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't believe they factor in the previous season. I think they just show the 2007 rating when you are picking your teams.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 20:42 (sixteen years ago) link

Everything about Trachsel lasts way too long.

That's not what she said.

Leee, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 21:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Single A Lakeland is harsh... Suck it up D-Train, hope to see you soon.

Steve Shasta, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 22:50 (sixteen years ago) link

his delivery must be even more awkward than usual

omar little, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 22:51 (sixteen years ago) link

The reasoning in sending him to Lakeland is because there is less pressure (but maybe more humiliation?). From the outside, his issues seem more mental, which would partially explain the mechanics. (And he floated a 3-0 fastball last night at around 80 mph.)

Andy K, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 23:58 (sixteen years ago) link

I wonder if he'll bat cleanup on non-pitching days. Dude can "rake".

polyphonic, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 23:58 (sixteen years ago) link

"projectable body"

mookieproof, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 03:38 (sixteen years ago) link

It would not be outside of the realm of possibility to see an Ankiel-like comeback from D-Train.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 14:30 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

dan (nyc): rob, have we seen the last of (the good) dontrelle willis?

Rob Neyer: (12:18 PM ET ) I think he has an operation, and eventually comes back as the highest-paid LOOGY ever.

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 17:04 (fifteen years ago) link

:-(

Steve Shasta, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 17:46 (fifteen years ago) link

4.1 IP, 3 R, 4 H, 37 strikes, 36 balls in his last appearance.

:-( indeed

Andy K, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 18:33 (fifteen years ago) link

Not so much a new windup as a more balanced, controlled, and not-as-fast version of the original. No walks in his start last night.

From a couple weeks ago:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gF_9mQVnWoY

Andy K, Wednesday, 6 August 2008 20:10 (fifteen years ago) link

is that high-A?

Steve Shasta, Wednesday, 6 August 2008 20:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Florida State League, yes.

Andy K, Wednesday, 6 August 2008 20:17 (fifteen years ago) link

trelle <3 <3 <3 <3

one more good start and ill be forced to break out my d-train whistle

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 6 August 2008 20:18 (fifteen years ago) link


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