they 'really wanted him' and ed wade is fucking stupid.
― mayor jingleberries, Monday, 7 June 2010 23:54 (fourteen years ago) link
my team has pick #28 so anything the teams before can do to fuck up and let good players fall Im all about..
― mayor jingleberries, Monday, 7 June 2010 23:57 (fourteen years ago) link
astros planning on being irrelevant for 10 years not 5 i guess
― ciderpress, Monday, 7 June 2010 23:58 (fourteen years ago) link
ok. but why would they "really want him"??
― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 00:01 (fourteen years ago) link
my brother & i are sitting here waiting for chris sale to get drafted -- he hosted my brother on a recruiting trip & he said he's a cool dude
― gonjasufi smacker (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 8 June 2010 00:01 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah sale is falling hard, keith law seems to think he projects as a reliever not a starter and maybe some teams have bought into that too
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 00:06 (fourteen years ago) link
the J's message board just went apeshit over the J's passing Sale over.
― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 00:07 (fourteen years ago) link
or maybe he's just asking for huge $
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 00:07 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah -- i've never seen him pitch
― gonjasufi smacker (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 8 June 2010 00:07 (fourteen years ago) link
drew pomeranz is giving me visions of andrew miller
thanks for talking about every pick in depth except for the J's, MLB. who cares about the reds. seriously!
― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 00:09 (fourteen years ago) link
DECK MCGUIRE
2K Sports renamed some of these people
― Andy K, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 00:11 (fourteen years ago) link
there he goes
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 00:15 (fourteen years ago) link
he's skinny!
― gonjasufi smacker (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 8 June 2010 00:15 (fourteen years ago) link
they keep mentioning that. like dude can't be fed a few extra sandwiches or something.
― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 00:19 (fourteen years ago) link
ESPN CRAWL JUST SUGGESTED THE ASTROS DRAFT DELINO DESHIELDS JR.
― Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 8 June 2010 00:23 (fourteen years ago) link
SORRY OTHERS HAVE COMMENTED ON THIS ALREADY BUT THAT IS INSANE I AM OLD AND GOING TO DIE SOMEDAY :C
― Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 8 June 2010 00:24 (fourteen years ago) link
being an astros fan is shitty. drayton is like a cheap al davis.
― mayor jingleberries, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 00:29 (fourteen years ago) link
cubs draft H. Simpson
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 00:34 (fourteen years ago) link
everyone at the reporters desk was like 'who'
cubs out stupiding houston. nl central lookin strong.
― mayor jingleberries, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 00:34 (fourteen years ago) link
Hayden Simpson is a hard-throwing small-college right-handed starting pitcher from Southern Arkansas. Simpson originally came to Southern Arkansas from Magnolia High School in Magnolia, Arkansas, a small southwestern Arkansas town near the borders of Oklahoma and Texas. He was a fairly unknown prospect coming out of high school due to his smaller frame, and he wasn’t carrying the type of stuff he has today. He went undrafted in the 2007 draft, heading to pitch at Southern Arkansas. After a pair of decent years, he really took a big step forward this spring, showing advanced stuff and pitchability, as well as successful numbers of a good Division 2 team. Scouts think he has the natural stuff to be a number three starter or setup man, but a few scouts can’t get past his size, which is generously listed at six feet. He’s still skinny and short, but he has enough raw stuff to influence a game. His fastball is a plus pitch, sitting 92-94, touching 96, and that’s not just in short bursts. He holds his velocity fairly well throughout games, and he’s able to reach back for something more late in a game. He also throws in an above-average curveball with some good velocity behind it, as well as a fringe-average changeup, so the biggest concern behind his size is his ability to get pro left-handed hitters out, though Simpson has shown enough in college to think he can handle them just fine. He’s expected to be picked in the fourth to seventh round range, where he should be signable for slot or average money
― mayor jingleberries, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 00:36 (fourteen years ago) link
when will america give up on the small physical size thing?
― Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 8 June 2010 00:38 (fourteen years ago) link
Projectable body, trusts his stuff, goes right after hitters, willingly takes the ball every fifth day, has been calling his own pitches since the age of eight.
xpost
― Andy K, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 00:39 (fourteen years ago) link
damn was hoping josh sale might fall to redsox
i guess cox still might though !
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 00:40 (fourteen years ago) link
its just possible he could have been had 2 rounds later
― mayor jingleberries, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 00:40 (fourteen years ago) link
and pitchability
Holy shit -- "pitchability"?
Plays baseball.
― Andy K, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 00:41 (fourteen years ago) link
angels need someone to take over 3b in light of brandon woods awesome flameout
― mayor jingleberries, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 00:42 (fourteen years ago) link
well they left the best and closest-to-majors 3B on the board
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 00:43 (fourteen years ago) link
c'mon houston bring the lols
― mayor jingleberries, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 00:46 (fourteen years ago) link
alright! redsox time, zack cox is still available, lets do this
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 00:50 (fourteen years ago) link
oops guess not
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 00:53 (fourteen years ago) link
I look fwd to seeing Harper in my early 50s
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 8 June 2010 00:59 (fourteen years ago) link
supposedly cox wants a fortune.. like pedro alvarez money.
― mayor jingleberries, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 01:20 (fourteen years ago) link
6 mil, apparently.
― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 01:26 (fourteen years ago) link
wtf cant Selig pronounce Los Angeles properly
― mayor jingleberries, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 01:31 (fourteen years ago) link
does he use the hard G???
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 8 June 2010 01:38 (fourteen years ago) link
ub I think my team just flushed this pick down the toilet.. dodgers rarely go over slot
― mayor jingleberries, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 01:39 (fourteen years ago) link
i like how he says "Los Angeleez"
― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 01:42 (fourteen years ago) link
like when old people say "Worshington"
makes me smile.
DECK MCGUIRE2K Sports renamed some of these people― Andy K, Monday, June 7, 2010 8:11 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
― Andy K, Monday, June 7, 2010 8:11 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
lol was thinking along similar lines http://www.soulstrut.com/images/smileys/killin_it.gif
― sanskrit, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 01:58 (fourteen years ago) link
With their selection in the 28th round, the Texas Rangers select Tug Sabathia.
― Andy K, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 01:59 (fourteen years ago) link
Oddibe Kendall
― Andy K, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 02:00 (fourteen years ago) link
beckjasonChris Mears just announced compensation pick for Red Sox. He shared saves lead on 2003 #tigers ... with 5. #mlbdraft
― Andy K, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 02:16 (fourteen years ago) link
CITO CULVER!
― Andy K, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 02:17 (fourteen years ago) link
and the J's take 4 pitchers for some reason.
― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 02:33 (fourteen years ago) link
this was a really pitching-heavy draft, you don't want to reach for a position player if they're not the best signable player available
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 02:54 (fourteen years ago) link
ya - i knew that going into it. but at a certain point you're going to have to reach down for the sake of diversifying things, no?
i also think it might be an AA thing. one clear thing he's done since taking over is stockpile arms like mad.
― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 02:57 (fourteen years ago) link
i guess they're banking on lind / snider / hill / wallace being a good enough lineup core to carry a run-prevention team
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 03:29 (fourteen years ago) link
you can buy Bryce's pomade
https://www.amazon.com/stores/page/7FD8ED49-CB2F-4406-A326-54374A7DE0F8/
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 5 July 2019 13:24 (four years ago) link
Bryce takes Hunter Strickland deep again. pic.twitter.com/hOFRO31tPi— Jamal Collier (@JamalCollier) September 25, 2019
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 02:05 (four years ago) link
Dan Shulman, on a Toronto call-in this morning, called Harper a really, really talented player who ranks about #15-20 across both leagues. Sounds about right. (Except in April, when he leaps to the front of the class.)
― clemenza, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 22:20 (four years ago) link
WAR: it adds up over time. Harper was looking pretty poor earlier this year, but his second half has bailed him out somewhat overall, even if this is a bit of an off season by expectations.
― earlnash, Thursday, 26 September 2019 00:02 (four years ago) link
#15-20 is a little optimistic
― mookieproof, Thursday, 26 September 2019 03:22 (four years ago) link
Seeing as there are as many as eight Astros/Red Sox players who'd rank ahead of him--Altuve, Bregman, Betts, and Bogarts for sure; Springer and Correa probably; Devers and Alvarez maybe; I'd add Martinez, too, if not for the age difference--you're probably right.
― clemenza, Thursday, 26 September 2019 10:44 (four years ago) link
Yelich has more or less the same WAR as Harper with 500 less PA.
― Van Horn Street, Friday, 27 September 2019 05:51 (four years ago) link
Speaking of Fred Lynn (I was, the other day, on the Juan Soto thread)...Is Harper Fred Lynn? Harper had a three-year jump age-wise, but through nine seasons, they're pretty close:
BH: 138 OPS+, 33.4 WARFL: 137 OPS+, 36.9 WAR
Two monster seasons each, although Harper's 2017 was injury-shortened; ROY both, one MVP each. (Lynn should have won a second in '79, an infamously terrible vote.)
― clemenza, Tuesday, 29 September 2020 13:49 (three years ago) link
i miss morbs. he would have bumped this thread several times by now. he's right there in the NL MVP race, and would seem to be the favorite if PHI can squeak into the playoffs. (i think if the padres make it, it's Tatis? if the reds make it...not sure)
(preamble about how harper often seems to be seen as a disappointment compared to his early promise)
his career line is now .278/.389/.520, a wRC+ of 141, wOPA of .384. 42 fWAR, 38.4 bWAR at age 28
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 17:28 (two years ago) link
pretty solid!
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 7 September 2021 17:33 (two years ago) link
I used to be so down on Bryce but I was wrong
― brimstead, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 18:28 (two years ago) link
Definitely an MVP candidate...not sure I'd assume his career inconsistency is over, though. (His career numbers will likely remain in proximity to HOF-level because of how good his good years are.)
― clemenza, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 19:57 (two years ago) link
he has a good case but man what a depressing NL MVP race it's been, you've got prime acuna and tatis and soto and degrom and mookie and the league leader might not surpass 6 fWAR
― ✖, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 20:04 (two years ago) link
well i guess corbin burnes and zack wheeler surpassed it already tbf
neither of them seem like candidates though
― ✖, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 20:07 (two years ago) link
not sure I'd assume his career inconsistency is over, though.
this is what i mean, though - he hasn't been very inconsistent! i think that's his reputation. but look at his numbers:
https://i.imgur.com/Eg7Yf8K.png
his 2014 is his second worst, as a hitter. but he was 21 years old, and seriously injured for maybe the first time (?) in his career? and even then, he puts up a 115 wRC+, as a 21 year old, only looking bad in comparison to his own first couple years.
then his MVP 2015, which i think had the effect of resetting the expectation of him as a perennial mike trout superstar.
then his worst year, offensively, 2016. wRC+ of 111 -- 11% better than an average hitter -- dropping from .330 BA to .243 (BAPIB dropped from .369 to .264) looked bad, but his OBP was still .373!
and that's about it. those are his relatively bad seasons. his next worst hitting season is when he was 19 (wRC+ 121), and after that is 2019 (wRC+ 125), his first year in Philadelphia.
he's a pretty good lock for 4+ fWAR each year, and with upside for years like 2015 and 2021 as well. seems pretty consistent!
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 21:00 (two years ago) link
I think we're just looking at it from a different angle. then his MVP 2015, which i think had the effect of resetting the expectation of him as a perennial mike trout superstar--unfair as it may be, that's mine. If he were to stay where he is right now for a couple more seasons, I'd likely stop thinking that way. I still see Fred Lynn as a good comparison. Lynn also had a very good age-28 season--not as good as Harper this year, but he did get some MVP support. Another comparison (see above), this time Harper today vs. Lynn through his age-28 season:
Harper: .278/.389/.520, 141 OPS+, 38.4 WARLynn: .308/.383/.520, 141 OPS+, 32.1 WAR
That's pretty damn close (Harper had a three-year head start on WAR). Lynn followed up with a disastrous strike-year season (injury? don't remember), then was never the same after that. So we'll see.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 21:40 (two years ago) link
i guess i just mean, 10 years, 42 WAR for harper. he already proved himself
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 21:45 (two years ago) link
Good column:
https://open.substack.com/pub/joeposnanski/p/the-yankees-bryce-harper-and-what?r=1jtu0&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email
(xposts) A year later--and assuming Harper continues playing this well--the Lynn comparison is moot.
― clemenza, Sunday, 23 October 2022 15:49 (one year ago) link