who catch now, Fisk?
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 July 2010 17:43 (fourteen years ago) link
they called the molina hotline it seems
― ciderpress, Friday, 2 July 2010 17:48 (fourteen years ago) link
david ortiz intentionally walked to get to "niuman romero" ;_;
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 01:41 (fourteen years ago) link
don't know if yall have heard, but red sox tv ratings are down 36% this year. it's a shocking number even to someone who thinks "tv ratings of sports stories" are dumb.
simmons has at it today: http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/100729
for counterpoint, "true fan" hardmanning is here: http://sonsofsamhorn.net/topic/58817-red-sox-games-no-longer-must-see-tv/
i assume this revive will just result in typical ilbb snark but what the hell right?
― call all destroyer, Friday, 30 July 2010 15:37 (fourteen years ago) link
i haven't been watching the games as much lately but it's more me being busier than lack of interest
― It's like normal life except you power up by peeing (ciderpress), Friday, 30 July 2010 15:55 (fourteen years ago) link
Well the A-team was out for awhile right? I haven't been watching much this year because A) I live on a different continent and B) well, see A.
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 30 July 2010 15:57 (fourteen years ago) link
If NESN launched a game show called "Guess What J.D. Just Did?" in which contestants guessed based off his expressions -- did Drew just hit a game-saving double, take a called third strike, hit into a double play, win the lottery or find out he was going to jail? -- nobody would ever win.
loool
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 30 July 2010 16:00 (fourteen years ago) link
JD is my fav red sox player
― It's like normal life except you power up by peeing (ciderpress), Friday, 30 July 2010 16:10 (fourteen years ago) link
hey at least he's been around long enough to have some kind of relationship to him--i'm lollin at these guys who are affronted that i might not give a fuck about adrian beltre's lucky season.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 30 July 2010 18:35 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah i think a lot of the disinterest is from all the roster turnover from the past couple years due to injuries and aging
― It's like normal life except you power up by peeing (ciderpress), Friday, 30 July 2010 18:59 (fourteen years ago) link
also people tend to unfairly compare every red sox season to the 2004 season which was just about the flukiest hollywood-plot-esque baseball team ever and is never gonna happen again. of course every year is gonna seem 'boring' if that's your benchmark
― It's like normal life except you power up by peeing (ciderpress), Friday, 30 July 2010 19:04 (fourteen years ago) link
on one hand, i'm not gonna try and pretend like i can understand what it would be like to follow a team giving so much time to bill hall, daniel nava, darnell mcdonald, kevin cash etc
on the other hand, there is some really dumb... and frankly spoiled opinions expressed in this column
― J0rdan S., Friday, 30 July 2010 19:06 (fourteen years ago) link
WE DON'T HAVE A PITCHER THAT I WANT TO WATCH EVERY FIVE DAYS. YEAH, JON LESTER MIGHT WIN THE AL CY YOUNG WITH ONE OF THE BIGGEST K/9 RATIOS IN BASEBALL, BUT HE'S NO PEDRO!!!!
― J0rdan S., Friday, 30 July 2010 19:07 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah that part was pretty wtf to me...lester is awesome to watch
― It's like normal life except you power up by peeing (ciderpress), Friday, 30 July 2010 19:11 (fourteen years ago) link
the problem here is that there's tooooons of conflation in the column between "what's good for the fan" and "what's good for the team" -- entertainment value vs baseball value etc
like, when he's talking about the red sox not having a ryan howard type player whose at bats you look forward to... it's like simmons is advocating having a home run derby team or something. that's not to pick on ryan howard specifically, who obv has baseball value, but it just seems like he was vacillating a ton between "this is no fun wha!" and "we're not winning wah!" without acknowledging how those things are so interconnected?
― J0rdan S., Friday, 30 July 2010 19:11 (fourteen years ago) link
can't verbalize exactly what i'm trying to say, but it just struck me as a really naive column (at least parts of it -- there are some things he said about literally attending games vs watching on tv & stuff like that that he was absolutely otm about)
― J0rdan S., Friday, 30 July 2010 19:13 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah my basic position on the ratings drop is this--the front office, via the media, did an awful job of selling this year's model to average fans, who can still faithfully repeat the phrases "pitching and defense" and "bridge year." so once the bad start confirmed everyone's fears, and the injuries exacerbated them, ppl had questions (some legit, some not) about why exactly they should care about this year.
i do watch less baseball myself these days, in part because i share a tv with my gf, but also because this year's sox have been about as interesting as last year.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 30 July 2010 19:16 (fourteen years ago) link
lester is indeed really great to watch, don't understand that criticism at all.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 30 July 2010 19:17 (fourteen years ago) link
i don't think there's anything inherently wrong about being like "this team is boring, and they make me want to watch less" -- i think the same thing about the padres but they're actually winning so it's a bit different
― J0rdan S., Friday, 30 July 2010 19:18 (fourteen years ago) link
i guess i'm struggling to come up with a team that's particularly interesting?
― call all destroyer, Friday, 30 July 2010 19:19 (fourteen years ago) link
well i think there's something inherent about baseball teams that's sort of... uninteresting? like, even the yankees are getting contributions from marcus thames as they steamroll everyone in their path
even the rays -- great young staff to watch, longo, crawford etc -- started matt joyce and willie aybar last night
but that's baseball! idk. the game itself it what sells and is what's fun, which is probably why the mlb has the problem that simmons outlines wrt recognizable stars and what not
― J0rdan S., Friday, 30 July 2010 19:22 (fourteen years ago) link
imagine being Andy K! you get miggy's potentially historic season, but last night you also had to watch ryan rayburn, gerald laird, "w. rhymes" and "d. worth"
so idk. that's how shit goes.
― J0rdan S., Friday, 30 July 2010 19:26 (fourteen years ago) link
tru
― call all destroyer, Friday, 30 July 2010 19:27 (fourteen years ago) link
i think having exciting young players to watch really helps tho, which is part of the problem with the red sox in particular
even tho he's hitting like .225, i def feel that "can't go get food" (lol not really because i have tivo) when a mike stanton AB is approaching
― J0rdan S., Friday, 30 July 2010 19:27 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah young talented position players enhance night-to-night watchability and we have oh let me check--zero of those right now
― call all destroyer, Friday, 30 July 2010 19:30 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, identity-wise the red sox' future is kind of cloudy right now, their old franchise players are on the way out and their farm system's taken a step back this year. we've only got pedroia and lester to fill that role right now, maybe buchholz if he's actually figured stuff out.
― It's like normal life except you power up by peeing (ciderpress), Friday, 30 July 2010 19:35 (fourteen years ago) link
The Giants imo
The Sox had a really nice run with their minor leaguers, but after Ellsbury and Pedroia they've struggled to produce a hitting prospect of note. Suddenly they have an offense filled with the sort of old journeymen that are patently boring to root for. Cameron, Beltre, Hall, Martinez, Scutaro ... not like these are bad dudes, but you're really rooting for laundry when you assemble a bunch of dudes like that, or when you bring up a lot of AAAA guys as injury replacements.
― no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Friday, 30 July 2010 22:24 (fourteen years ago) link
I just read that the Sox inquired about Jim Edmonds, on that note.
― no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Friday, 30 July 2010 22:26 (fourteen years ago) link
What does the future hold for Mike LOL?
― _▂▅▇█▓▒░◕‿‿◕░▒▓█▇▅▂_ (Steve Shasta), Friday, 30 July 2010 22:32 (fourteen years ago) link
they'll probably keep trying to flip him for cheap and get anything back
― It's like normal life except you power up by peeing (ciderpress), Friday, 30 July 2010 23:18 (fourteen years ago) link
Keeping barking, Youk.
― Andy K, Saturday, 31 July 2010 22:55 (fourteen years ago) link
I basically never watch baseball on TV except for highlights or an inning here and there. I only watch 3-4 hours of TV a week - which is barely one average game!
In person I don't mind the length (given good weather - when it's still 105 at the Ballpark at dusk, time matters), but on TV it's a killer.
― a cross between lily allen and fetal alcohol syndrome (milo z), Sunday, 1 August 2010 00:10 (fourteen years ago) link
^ agreed, especially when the games start at 7:35 - it's like goodbye dinner, goodbye sex, goodbye 8 hours sleep
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 16:22 (fourteen years ago) link
but i guess that's how you tell the men from the boys
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 4 August 2010 13:08 (fourteen years ago) link
they actually played a fast game last night! i watched most of it.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 13:20 (fourteen years ago) link
A game tends to be on whenever games are on -- ideal when the kids are either too loud and/or in need of attention and or napping/sleeping.
If I think I hear Rich Waltz yelling or getting belligerent, I run it back and crank the volume to ear-splitting level, no matter what.
― Andy K, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 13:35 (fourteen years ago) link
dinner & sex while game is on TV = classic
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 4 August 2010 13:41 (fourteen years ago) link
lol
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 13:44 (fourteen years ago) link
I really hope Delgado's got a couple of years left. I was looking at his career stats today, particularly at his last year with Toronto. I remember how absolutely convinced everyone here had become--management and fans--that it was time for him to move on. He had 32 homers, 99 RBI, and a .535 slugging average that year. Must...go...NOW. We had to clear the way for that special day when we could get our hands on Lyle Overbay.
― clemenza, Saturday, 7 August 2010 20:22 (fourteen years ago) link
he was playing really well with NYM in '09 while he was able to play, so i don't see why he might not be able to play well for another year or two.
― ('_') (omar little), Saturday, 7 August 2010 20:42 (fourteen years ago) link
That's why I'm hopeful; it's not a case of picking up a guy who's been in steady decline. Health is the only issue. I want him to get to 500; it'll seem like a perfectly legitimate 500, and I'm afraid he'll be bypassed for the HOF without the milestone.
― clemenza, Saturday, 7 August 2010 20:50 (fourteen years ago) link
if roster space is tight i'd rather bring in saltalamacchia
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Monday, 9 August 2010 11:51 (fourteen years ago) link
he got over the yips?
― sanskrit, Monday, 9 August 2010 14:20 (fourteen years ago) link
what was the problem??
― oreo speed wiggum (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 9 August 2010 15:13 (fourteen years ago) link
he couldn't throw back to the pitcher
― call all destroyer, Monday, 9 August 2010 15:14 (fourteen years ago) link
supposedly he's figured something out
― call all destroyer, Monday, 9 August 2010 15:15 (fourteen years ago) link
LESTERIFFIC
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 13:52 (fourteen years ago) link
BRILL BARD BAFFLES BOMBERS
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 13:55 (fourteen years ago) link
I will say that when JB came in the game (and lester was on some other-type shit yesterday; dude was awesome) everyone in DNYS was like "the game is over." funeral-level quiet. And dude deals in a way that JP doesn't. when papelbon came in and everyone got excited again.
― Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 14:00 (fourteen years ago) link
also, JP is irritating to watch live, whereas JB is clearly interested in going home as soon as possible.
― Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 14:01 (fourteen years ago) link