ayo lets go phillies get me a fukkin tastykake

maybe since aug 1 but theres no way you'd justify picking oswalt over halladay head to head ever

VORP:

Oswalt 48.2
Halladay 70.4 (best among pitchers and 3rd most in MLB)

How much of VORP is defense dependent? Because Roy O. with HOU vs. PHI defense is pretty O_O.

VORP is so 2005

xpost Let's just say that it isn't 50% defense dependent, which is what it would need to be to make up the difference between them.

wait I thought you were a maths guy. how are you getting to the 50% diff.?

~2/3rds of his season (to date) was with Houston.

I meant that Halladay's VORP is 50% higher than Oswalt's.

That would have to be one really shitty defense in Houston. Like, me playing all the positions kind of bad.

Oswalt has pitched better than Halladay since Aug 1 though. (which is more of a credit to Oswalt -- Halladay has still been really really good)

That would have to be one really shitty defense in Houston. Like, me playing all the positions kind of bad.

― NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, September 16, 2010 9:21 AM (8 minutes ago)

this is what I am thinking is the case! Would love to have access to that Stats Inc data.

WAR adjusts for team defense, and Fangraphs has Halladay at 6.4 WAR and Oswalt at 4.0, if you prefer that stat. Disregarding the whole dueling definitions of WAR thing between different websites (which I don't really care about), that's still a huge difference.

baseball-reference WAR is the one that adjusts for team defense

fangraphs WAR uses FIP for the defensive component which only looks at K, BB, HR, and ignores actual runs allowed completely

err the pitching component i mean

Ah, OK, so using B-R's numbers it's 6.7 vs 4.4. Not sure what we learn there, besides the fact that Halladay is still way ahead on the season.

Shasta mancrush on Oswalt: touching

just batted around on JMarquis and the Nats while only recording one out.

another great game tonight -- top-notch lidge save

Kruk calls them the best team in baseball every night, as if we needed another reason to hate em

i think they might go all the way! great pitching and monster offense.

another NYY-PHI Series wd again let me skip it

don't know why you feel the need to come on this thread to whine about the phillies

bcuz their fanz r the wurst ;)

on a less crazy person note: phillies tonite insane and lidge has been saving games left + right these days (swept braves)

fuck this syphilitic earth

NYY-PHI Series wd again let me skip it

― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, September 22, 2010 7:38 AM (16 hours ago) Bookmark

zomg sabr will be scandalized

snark now byatch :P

SNARK!

Cole getz bitched out.

Congrats, Roy.

Roy H.

I was confused at this post for a sec. You talking about finally making it to the playoffs or his ultimate nl cy young win?

Playoffs, yeah. His teammates can pretty much take a flying leap IMO.

you guys are mad with the phillies hate. never understood why people hate on the phills but love the charmless despicable fetid Mets. besides Morbs that is.

If I weren't a Braves stan I wouldn't have any problem with the Phils. I like Charlie M.

who the hell likes the mets

http://twitter.com/GaryCarterRaw/status/25515214614

too soon.

http://socioecohistory.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/hindenburg.jpg

your team should fix its own house, then Mets fans can come and throw stones at other better-run organizations.

I haven't got that much time. Anyway, it's gonna be fun watching the Philths get old!

lol what!

may all their arms fall off

i am ecstatic

you guys are mad with the phillies hate. never understood why people hate on the phills but love the charmless despicable fetid Mets. besides Morbs that is.

― Fartbritz Sootzveti (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, September 28, 2010 1:57 PM (2 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^^^ words of wisdom, these

I am enjoying all the articles about how selfless Lee is for accepting a contract that will pay him at least 100 million dollars.

If all these dudes were on the same team last year they would still be a few ticks short of ERA+ to beat the 90s Braves holy rotation

you guys are mad with the phillies hate. never understood why people hate on the phills but love the charmless despicable fetid Mets. besides Morbs that is.

― Fartbritz Sootzveti (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, September 28, 2010 1:57 PM (2 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^^^ words of wisdom, these

― Carmine Dirtnap from North Arlington Returns from Pizzaland (Eisbaer), Tuesday, December 14, 2010 4:23 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

who the hell likes the mets

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, September 28, 2010 1:01 PM (2 months ago) Bookmark

you know i was a little worried about Morbs today, even if he's not the type to do something rash.

then i saw this

good luck w/ your little team in your little new humid ballpark, J0rdan

― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, December 14, 2010 7:55 AM (14 hours ago) Bookmark

and knew everything was OK!

Insert YouTube link to video of worst rap parody song ever.

i just saw on the espn tv at the bar a little graphic showing the phillies 2011 championship odds set at 5:2 !??

feel like theres a lot of money to be made on the under if those were actual betting odds and not some shit made up by sportscenter

no, probability plays no part and the Phils are a mortal lock, it's just like the NBA.

you can't predict baseball, or Howard and Rollins flatlining

thats what i'm saying, there's no way that they have a 2 in 7 chance of winning the WS even if they are the best team