General MLB 2011 thread for random game talk, juiced-baseball conspiracies, etc

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24/30 teams have btwn 28-36 wins

johnny crunch, Saturday, 11 June 2011 15:51 (twelve years ago) link

no wonder some ppl can't tell which teams are "awful"

already president FYI (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 11 June 2011 21:19 (twelve years ago) link

Opinions on possible realignment?

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=6651634

Huey "Keytar" Smith (WmC), Monday, 13 June 2011 01:01 (twelve years ago) link

15/15 doesn't make sense to me. I don't like the idea that some team will be doing interleague on the last three days of the season.

polyphonic, Monday, 13 June 2011 01:08 (twelve years ago) link

Two highly ranked executives believe the Houston Astros would be a possibility, because a switch to the AL for Houston would foster a rivalry between the Astros and the Texas Rangers.

Oh, boy. Can't wait.

A Chuck Person's Guide to Mark Aguirre (Andy K), Monday, 13 June 2011 01:22 (twelve years ago) link

why not send Milwaukee back?

magic punani (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 13 June 2011 01:25 (twelve years ago) link

Q: has the '...to foster a rivalry' method of alignment/scheduling ever worked?

A: No

Elegant Bitch (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 13 June 2011 05:06 (twelve years ago) link

i think that it has, actually, although it won't matter until the rivalry teams are both good, which i don't see the astros being for a while

*does not apply to professional sports teams in florida

mookieproof, Monday, 13 June 2011 05:13 (twelve years ago) link

to prev. question: why would there have to be an interleague game "every day"?

Elegant Bitch (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 13 June 2011 05:42 (twelve years ago) link

i honestly don't understand why that would be a thing

Elegant Bitch (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 13 June 2011 05:42 (twelve years ago) link

16 vs. 14 = even
15 vs. 15 = odd

odd = at least one team in each league that would need to play interleague game.

it's a meme i made and i like (Steve Shasta), Monday, 13 June 2011 05:48 (twelve years ago) link

cause you'd have 15 teams in each league, ie 7 play 7 in each league then the 15th teams play each other.

neyer suggested pitting shitty teams (based on the previous season's record) against each other in the final week for the interleague teams. it'll bite you sooner or later, but whatever.

mookieproof, Monday, 13 June 2011 05:50 (twelve years ago) link

you wouldn't HAVE to have interleague every day but the alternative is staggering the schedule in a goofy way such that teams have weekend days off. right now every team plays every fri/sat/sun which is of course the optimal thing financially.

ciderpress, Monday, 13 June 2011 05:53 (twelve years ago) link

it wouldn't be literally every day -- probably skip some mondays/thursdays -- but yeah

mookieproof, Monday, 13 June 2011 06:09 (twelve years ago) link

just create two more franchises, duh

sanskrit, Monday, 13 June 2011 19:45 (twelve years ago) link

It would probably be better to get rid of two franchises.

earlnash, Tuesday, 14 June 2011 22:16 (twelve years ago) link

Nah, they're too profitable. Even the Pirates are raking in the dough.

Are there any clubs in the red besides the Dodgers?

it's a meme i made and i like (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 23:05 (twelve years ago) link

i think it would be more fun to guess what B-grade cities might qualify for a MLB franchise.

magic punani (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 23:07 (twelve years ago) link

Las Vegas, Portland, Sacramento

it's a meme i made and i like (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 23:08 (twelve years ago) link

Hartford, New Jersey

magic punani (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 23:09 (twelve years ago) link

hamilton, winnipeg, fremont

mookieproof, Tuesday, 14 June 2011 23:12 (twelve years ago) link

haha, wrt Fremont... Oakland's AAA affiliate in Sacramento was outdrawing the A's for a while a season or two ago (?)... Sacramento is <60 miles from Oakland.

it's a meme i made and i like (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 23:16 (twelve years ago) link

portland would be a decent choice for the AL, it might be nice for seattle to have a nearby regional rival as opposed to ones that happen to share a time zone. maybe for the NL, give chicago a team? : /

omar little, Tuesday, 14 June 2011 23:21 (twelve years ago) link

so apparently Colbert has some bet with mlb.com and if he wins he takes over their twitter feed?

magic punani (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 23:54 (twelve years ago) link

ronnie belliard is retiring after tonight's lehigh valley ironpigs game

mookieproof, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 00:45 (twelve years ago) link

hbryant42 Howard Bryant
MLB sources tell me the most viable market for relocating a team is also the most contentious: NYC

hbryant42 Howard Bryant
San Antonio, Portland, Las Vegas are all "less attractive than they seem. The best city is San Jose, but it is for now, off limits."

A Chuck Person's Guide to Mark Aguirre (Andy K), Saturday, 18 June 2011 12:35 (twelve years ago) link

three weeks pass...

And just like that, the Clemens trial is over.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/07/11/national/w020115D09.DTL&tsp=1

polyphonic, Thursday, 14 July 2011 17:27 (twelve years ago) link

apparently the pirates beat the braves tonight (3-1) without their first baseman ever touching the ball

mookieproof, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 04:42 (twelve years ago) link

how is that even

can afford a drug lifestyle ----► (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 04:43 (twelve years ago) link

you know, suzyn, you just can't predict baseball

mookieproof, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 04:45 (twelve years ago) link

Altanta didn't ground out a single time...how often does that happen?

frogbs, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 19:49 (twelve years ago) link

This made me lol this morning. Grats, Berto!

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/What-the-heck-Roberto-Alomar-takes-fan-8217-s-?urn=mlb-wp13874

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 27 July 2011 13:24 (twelve years ago) link

tim mccarver just called david freese a brown-eyed handsome man

mookieproof, Saturday, 30 July 2011 22:20 (twelve years ago) link

the fox game i have is **rubs eyes** tampa at seattle ??

johnny crunch, Saturday, 30 July 2011 22:26 (twelve years ago) link

Not sure where to put this--I have learned that the starting-pitchers-doing-really-well thread has a very specific purview...AL Cy Young: shaping up as an historic three-way race between Verlander, Weaver, and Sabathia. (You could stretch things to include Haren and Beckett, but realistically, it'll probably come down to those three.) It'd be Verlander or Weaver today, but Sabathia sure is coming on strong.

clemenza, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 14:04 (twelve years ago) link

can't see how it's anyone but Verlander. Sabathia is having probably his best full season but Verlander is just sick good right now.

frogbs, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 14:12 (twelve years ago) link

The oldschool James Cy Predictor has Verlander with a narrow lead over CC and Weaver.

satan club sandwich (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 14:15 (twelve years ago) link

and in the NL, it's got to be Halladay right?

Verlander should just join the Phillies, wouldn't baseball fans just love that

frogbs, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 14:16 (twelve years ago) link

The AL's so relatively close at this point, I think it's completely up for grabs. Each guy still has 10 or 11 starts left.

clemenza, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 14:21 (twelve years ago) link

Honestly I don't think Weaver has a shot, as good as he's been

I feel like the voters REALLY want to give it to CC one of these years so yeah if he goes on a big run he'll probably get it

If Verlander completed his second no-hitter though they could have given it to him right then. Even the new school SABR voters (do they exist?) have to appreciate that.

frogbs, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 14:24 (twelve years ago) link

No-hitters are usually great games, but dumb luck is all that generally separates them from 1- to 4-hitters. So, wrong.

By the Prospectus version of WAR, Weaver has a whisker of a lead over Verlander. And Kershaw leads Halladay! So I like that version.

satan club sandwich (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 14:28 (twelve years ago) link

Right now, for me, it's between Weaver and Verlander. Going on basic stats (but not W-L), I'd probably give the edge to Verlander -- more innings, lower WHIP, higher K rate.

A Chuck Person's Guide to Mark Aguirre (Andy K), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 14:30 (twelve years ago) link

Is this the page where you got the James rankings, Morbius?

http://espn.go.com/mlb/features/cyyoung

By that system, Verlander/Weaver/Sabathia are even closer than I would have guessed. One thing that doesn't really make sense to me is why Wilson is ranked so much higher than Rivera.

clemenza, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 14:30 (twelve years ago) link

I'm not arguing that, but we live in an era where there are still voters who tout pitcher wins like it's a big deal. Obviously no hitters are mostly luck but this isn't Liriano we're talking about. Even if you took away Verlander's (theoretical) no-hitters, he's still a frontrunner for the Cy.

frogbs, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 14:31 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, Kershaw for the NL.

A Chuck Person's Guide to Mark Aguirre (Andy K), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 14:35 (twelve years ago) link

I feel like the voters REALLY want to give it to CC one of these years

He's already won one, though, so if that ever does factor into the voting, I can't see that it would here. I do agree that, rightly or wrongly, a second no-hitter would have helped him in the voting quite a bit (all else being more or less equal).

clemenza, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 14:36 (twelve years ago) link

"Him" meaning Verlander.

clemenza, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 14:36 (twelve years ago) link

Should the AL Cy race continue to be tight through the end of the year, you can bet some pro-Verlander voter will write an article about the recent Weaver-Verlander duel and cite Weaver's tantrum as the Real Moment the Victor Was Determined.

A Chuck Person's Guide to Mark Aguirre (Andy K), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 14:48 (twelve years ago) link


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