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My comments on this got eaten via the 17-day outage, but I think that Clement and Pedro are more or less the same pitcher these days. Therefore, the Sox have essentially replaced Pedro with a guy who will give them an equal amount of production -- and save 15M over three years in doing so.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 23 December 2004 09:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Which Giant will be doing the Don Ameche dance?

Rumor has it Beane is trying to snooker the Mets out of prospects for Eric Byrnes...

http://doc-baseball.blogspot.com/2004/12/byrnes-baby-byrnes.html


With Moises off the market, things look better for one of the Carloses or Magglio in Queens! (whistling past the Sammy)

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 23 December 2004 15:04 (nineteen years ago) link

Moises Alou 2004:

Home:
BA: .339/OBP: .405/SLG: .714

Away:
BA: .247/OBP: .316/SLG: .400

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 23 December 2004 17:21 (nineteen years ago) link

Wow those are ugly splits.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 23 December 2004 17:41 (nineteen years ago) link

"No high fives, Moises!!!"

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 23 December 2004 18:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Toe Saguchi is still a redbird, hence I have another season to write my haiku about him.

bnw (bnw), Thursday, 23 December 2004 20:14 (nineteen years ago) link

And Add N to X-stein too now.

bnw (bnw), Friday, 24 December 2004 00:48 (nineteen years ago) link

And there's your 2K5 World Series DH.

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 24 December 2004 00:56 (nineteen years ago) link

varitek is re-signing with the sox.

maura (maura), Friday, 24 December 2004 04:34 (nineteen years ago) link

The Big Cat joins the Mets. Too bad it is 2004 instead of 1994, but maybe he can still hit like Julio Franco.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylc=X3oDMTBpcDBuM2RlBF9TAzk1ODYxNzc3BHNlYwN0aA--?slug=ap-mets-galarraga&prov=ap&type=lgns

Earl Nash (earlnash), Friday, 24 December 2004 18:38 (nineteen years ago) link

oh to be at that AAA match up of Galarraga vs Fassero...

bnw (bnw), Friday, 24 December 2004 19:05 (nineteen years ago) link

The Reds signed Eric Milton. Not exactly an ace, but considering how bad their starting pitching has been the past three years or so, it couldn't hurt.

Earl Nash (earlnash), Monday, 27 December 2004 20:24 (nineteen years ago) link

Maybe Milton signing is part of some fan outreach program, wherein they can ensure Smallpark attendees have a better chance at catching home run balls.

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 27 December 2004 22:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Word is that the Cards signed 900 yr old Roberto Alomar, for a mere 500K.

bnw (bnw), Thursday, 30 December 2004 18:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Assuming he can stay healthy that's a good pick up to replace Womack. I'd rather have Alomar for $500k than Womack for $2m and 2 years.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 30 December 2004 19:08 (nineteen years ago) link

Jesus, why doesn't George just take his money and set it on fire?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 30 December 2004 21:46 (nineteen years ago) link

Johnson goes to Yankees, Shawn Green to Arizona after all

Hee Seop will be the full-time OBP force at first in LA, LA will get minor leaguers (hope they're worth that $18M/yr).

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 3 January 2005 18:07 (nineteen years ago) link

i'd rather the yanks devoted this money to beltran, but if duncan isn't packaged, this is a better deal than the other.

John (jdahlem), Monday, 3 January 2005 18:29 (nineteen years ago) link

Hold the presses...THE YANKS SIGNED Tanyon Sturtze !!! Might as well give them the World Series trophy now.

Earl Nash (earlnash), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 01:54 (nineteen years ago) link

I love Theo Epstein.

"My philosophy with regard to the Yankees is, I assume they're going to win about 100 games a year and we have to win 100 if we want to win the division. Our whole gameplan is to try and win 95 to 100 every year to get us to the postseason so we have a chance to win the World Series every year. We spend a lot less time thinking about the Yankees and their moves than you might think. I assume going into every offseason that they're going to land probably the best position player and the best pitcher available because they have the means to do so and they're smart and they usually do. And they haven't won the World Series in a few years. We'll just focus on ourselves."

(The link's to an article about the Red Sox reaction to the Randy Johnson trade.)

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 05:39 (nineteen years ago) link

NY Times claims Yanks have discreetly pulled out of the Beltran race. WHAAA?

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 16:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Maybe George has finally reached his financial limit. . .

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 17:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Pretty funny commentary here...

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 18:02 (nineteen years ago) link

Milton Bradley is not the only off-season jailbird:

Ponson released after a week in jail

Tuesday, January 4, 2005

(01-04) 08:35 PST ORANJESTAD, Aruba (AP) --

Baltimore Orioles pitcher Sidney Ponson was released from jail on Tuesday after being held for a week while police investigated allegations he punched a judge on a beach in Aruba.

Ponson appeared before a judge on Tuesday and prosecutors said they would not oppose his release as he awaits trial, the daily La Prensa reported. The 28-year-old right-hander faces charges of public violence and simple aggression. No trial date has been set.

Under Aruba law, a suspect can be detained for up to eight days without bail while police investigate a crime.

Ponson, who was born on the Dutch Caribbean island, allegedly punched a local judge on Dec. 25 at a beach in Boca Catalina after several people confronted Ponson, accusing him of harassing them with his personal watercraft and operating it recklessly, police said.

The judge was hospitalized with minor injuries, authorities said. Ponson fled the scene but police detained him later in the day, said authorities.

Ponson went 11-15 with a 5.30 ERA in 33 starts and 215.2 innings pitched last season. He has played with the Orioles except for a brief stint with the San Francisco Giants in 2003. He became a free agent after that season and signed a $22.5 million, three-year contract with Baltimore.

He has a 69-80 career record in seven seasons with a 4.67 ERA and 802 strikeouts in 210 games and 1,313 innings pitched.

In 1998, Ponson became the third Aruban to play in the major leagues. In 2003, he was decorated in his homeland as a knight in the Order of the Dutch Royal House.

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 18:35 (nineteen years ago) link

Following Odalis Perez's re-signing with the Dodgers, I am increasingly confident that baseball teams have huge stacks of blank three-year, $24 million contracts that they'll give to anyone who can look decent in a baseball cap and throw a few strikes. Weirdest free-agent starting pitching market ever.

Daniel Cohen (dayan), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 14:10 (nineteen years ago) link

"I think he went to sleep on the beach and the locals were trying to put him back in the water to save him."

-- from an Orioles message board re: Sir Sidney

bnw (bnw), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 14:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Kinda silly article about DePodesta's moves ("JD Drew for Beltre" ad nauseum)... makes you wonder if Rosenthal ever bothered to look at Beltre's career stats.

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 17:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Well, he's half-right -- the Drew signing was the latest example of the Dodgers brutally overpaying a free agent, and he rightly ripped them for it.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 18:28 (nineteen years ago) link

supposidably the yanks have dropped out of the beltran race. completeleeeeeeeeeeey insane.

John (jdahlem), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 19:23 (nineteen years ago) link

Beltre's a good defensive player as well, and only 25, and Drew seems injury-free in relation to Dreifort maybe.

Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 19:36 (nineteen years ago) link

At least OP's contract is somewhat justifiable, given his numbers aside from his crap-ass W/L record (unlike the sex bomb that started all this crap off, Mr. Anna Benson).

Before I moused over the link, I assumed Gygax! was linking to a Buster Olney pile of crank.

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 6 January 2005 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Of course, Newsday reveals that Steinbush is playing us andtheYanks will swoop in to take Beltran. The guy wasn't a felonious Nixon contributor for nothin':

http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/mets/ny-spbeltran064105719jan06,0,7719557.story


Hey, Buster Olney is appearing at Coliseum Books in NYC this Saturday eve... shall I attend and give him shit?

http://www.coliseumbooks.com/events/010805event.htm


Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 6 January 2005 14:24 (nineteen years ago) link

that article means absolutely nothing morbs..."a source familiar with their thinking"???...typical doom-prattle

John (jdahlem), Thursday, 6 January 2005 19:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Morb, if you could just slip Buster a porno mag or some heroin or a Snickers bar or ANYTHING that'll get that sad-sack mope off his mug, I'll name my 14th child after you. Also, please wear & have Buster sign an "I DIG DEPODESTA" tee.

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 6 January 2005 22:13 (nineteen years ago) link

i like buster olney

John (jdahlem), Thursday, 6 January 2005 23:29 (nineteen years ago) link

Is it just me or does it seem like that no one has really made any moves to improve their team? The only teams that have some decent free agent signings seem to be offset by the players that they lost to free agency, the players they have aquired seem to be a stretch or they still have a gaping hole in their roster.

Earl Nash (earlnash), Friday, 7 January 2005 04:15 (nineteen years ago) link

"no one" = "no one except for the Yanks and Red Sox, who have hogged the off-season spotlight yet again"

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 7 January 2005 04:21 (nineteen years ago) link

The Yanks spend so much money, it would be a freak occurance for them to not make the playoffs. That being said, The Unit will be 42 next season and we will have to yet see if Wright and Pavano can repeat their peformances or at least provide as much as El Duque and Lieber did last year. They upgraded their starting pitching, but even if they didn't do so, I still think they could have possibly won 90+ games. If they can keep the lineup healthy, they will still score runs by the bunches.

Renteria is an upgrade at short, that I will grant you. Wells and Clement for Pedro and Lowe is about even. Clement has upside, but I think it is just as possible that he could find his ERA balloning in the AL and Wells rubber arm will be 42 in May.

The Braves may have gotten a new closer, but will Smoltz be good at starting once again? Where are they going to make up the offense lost with JD Drew? Has Chipper Jones peaked?

Everyone else seems to have either gotten worse or at best held ground.

Earl Nash (earlnash), Friday, 7 January 2005 05:00 (nineteen years ago) link

wifout beltran, we are doomed. mark my words children.

John (jdahlem), Friday, 7 January 2005 05:02 (nineteen years ago) link

(typical doom-prattle)

John (jdahlem), Friday, 7 January 2005 05:02 (nineteen years ago) link

According to Insider, the Yankees are negotiating an extension with Randy Johnson before they negotiate with Carlos Beltran. PRIORITIZE YOUR DAMN SELF, STEIN(brenner).

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 7 January 2005 05:13 (nineteen years ago) link

Green extension talks hit a snag. I thought Green was integral to the Unit trade -- has something in the past week changed that no longer makes the Yankee Unit contingent on Green going to the DBacks?

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Friday, 7 January 2005 05:47 (nineteen years ago) link

I guess 'Zona worked out the deal w/ the Yankees as a mano-y-manos thing, and THEN the D-Backs were going to ship some of the Yankee prospects to the Dodgers for Green.

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 7 January 2005 06:12 (nineteen years ago) link

supposedly it was 2-way all the-way. it doens't matter tho right? trades already done and all that.

xpost

John (jdahlem), Friday, 7 January 2005 06:13 (nineteen years ago) link


Green to Ari said to be dead; Times' Murray Chass speculating this could revive Piazza-for-Green talks.

Joe Sheehan provides some doom for Dahlem:

"If it ends up that the Yankees chose Johnson, Jaret Wright and Carl Pavano instead of Javier Vazquez and Carlos Beltran, they deserve what's going to happen to them."

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 7 January 2005 14:44 (nineteen years ago) link

i think seattle has improved quite a bit!

Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Friday, 7 January 2005 15:18 (nineteen years ago) link

Not having Hudson and Mulder in their division anymore ought to help Seattle considerably. But their own pitching is still a problem, even with all those nice new bats -- they should've been in on Odalis Perez or at least Eric Milton.

And why all the sudden is Carlos Delgado not looking to "break the bank" with the Rangers after calling Baltimore's offer "an insult?" My guess: he's not going to play for any of the teams mentioned here, and ends up in Boston or Detroit.

http://rotoworld.com/content/playernews.asp?sport=MLB

Free agent Carlos Delgado could pick Texas over Baltimore and the Mets if the Rangers choose to increase their offer.
The Rangers probably have the smallest bid on the table of any of the contenders for Delgado. "Carlos has great interest in playing in Texas, which we have expressed to the Rangers management several times," agent David Sloane said. "We're not looking for any records, and we're not looking to break the bank."

rasheed wallace (rasheed wallace), Friday, 7 January 2005 21:04 (nineteen years ago) link

The Rangers already have Teixeira, so I'm not surprised that they'd lowball Delgado.

What kind of money has Delgado been offered?

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 7 January 2005 22:05 (nineteen years ago) link

AJ Pierzynski signed with the Chicago White Sox for one year and $2.25 million.

ha, he must be a real piece of work if that's all he's worth.

gygax! (gygax!), Saturday, 8 January 2005 03:23 (nineteen years ago) link

I believe Baltimore's offer to Delgado was something on the order of 3 years/$34 million, with a club option for a fourth year. The Orioles don't need anymore bats, though -- like just abotut everyone else, they need pitching. They would be much better off putting that money toward Derek Lowe.

Pierzynski may be a head case, but I like that signing for the White Sox. It's a pretty minimal risk for them, and gets them back some of the offense they'll lose if Magglio Ordonez moves on -- and at a more important position. He played well in the AL Central as a Twin, and his .729 OPS last year was a bit of a fluke, I think. PacBell doesn't strike me as much of a hitter's park -- Barry Bonds being the exception that proves the rule. And there's always the possibility that the lack of interest showed to Pierzynski in the FA period this year and his inability to secure a multiyear contract will change his attitude.

On another note, my vote for steal of the offseason is the Red Sox nicking Wade Miller after he was nontendered by the Astros. They took practically no financial risk, have him locked down for two years, and if they can fix his funky mechanics to keep him from injuring himself, he could be a legit No. 2 starter down the road. Not bad.

rasheed wallace (rasheed wallace), Saturday, 8 January 2005 15:44 (nineteen years ago) link


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